Re: and you can charge and have audio at the same time over 3.5 adapter

[Scott Granados]

Me too, that sounds like a fantastic feature.

> On Sep 9, 2016, at 7:34 PM, David Chittenden  wrote:
> 
> It was supposed to be in the 7 series. I suspect they recently found 
> complications which could not be resolved in time. I hope it is cleared up by 
> the next iPhone.
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 9 Sep 2016, at 23:23, Scott Granados  wrote:
>> 
>> David, that is so cool.
>> 
>> So you could slap a few charging stations in your home and just charge by 
>> being in the house.  Same with your office.  I could see that being 
>> installed in other places as well like starbucks or in train cars etc.  Auto 
>> manufacturers could install that with Apple Car Play so you’re charging 
>> while driving to work or car pooling.
>> 
>> Take that Thomas Edison.;)
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 8, 2016, at 8:13 PM, David Chittenden  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Apple has an exclusive with a company which has developed a way of 
>>> performing distance wireless charging. The distance is up to 5 metres, 
>>> about 15 feet. So, within 5 metres of the charger, the iPhone automatically 
>>> starts charging.
>>> 
>>> My suspicion is they found a flaw, so deactivated the charging chip. I hope 
>>> it will be activated in the next iPhone and the next iPad. If so, I will 
>>> purchase a few wall ports so I can have charging stations in various 
>>> locations around home and the office. After all, I now use my iPhone and 
>>> iPad exclusively for work. My Mac is mainly for backing up the other 
>>> devices, updating the other devices (better update when done through 
>>> iTunes), and home file server.
>>> 
>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On 9 Sep 2016, at 00:51, Mary Otten  wrote:
 
 Obviously, I'm missing something. I don't understand what the big deal is 
 about wireless charging. I mean, the  pad or whatever that you put the 
 phone on has to be plugged into charge right? So what's the big deal?
 Mary
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Sep 8, 2016, at 7:21 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> I was hoping for wireless charging as well but no such luck.
> 
> You can add it on with 3rd party hardware but what’s the point.  It 
> should be included in my opinion.
> 
>> On Sep 8, 2016, at 5:16 AM, Michael Marshall  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I did not hear about an adapter with charging capabilities for nine 
>> dollars. I know you can get replacement adapters for $9 if you lose them.
>> I was hoping they would bring in wireless charging
>>> On 8 Sep. 2016, at 7:12 pm, Ray Foret jr  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Point taken.  However, I believe that Apple will sell, (for $9.00) or 
>>> so, a version of the adapter wich DOES have the charging port.  Now, 
>>> were it up to me, I’d have encluded the charging port version.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the 
>>> blind built-in
>>> 
>>> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>>> Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!
>>> 
 On Sep 7, 2016, at 3:56 PM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
 
 While I agree that this is being blown way out of proportion, 
 according to the images that are on the Apple website and in the store 
 app, there is not a pass the report for charging with the new 
 lightning to 3.5mm  adapter. That would probably explain why it's only 
 nine dollars to replace it.
 
 Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus
 
> On Sep 7, 2016, at 3:16 PM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
> I am not in the least bit surprised that Apple thought this through 
> carefully. Reminds me of the date 12/2q/12 that so many believed was 
> the end of the world. The Mayans did not get it wrong, they just did 
> not get around to updating their calendar. Probably many said "I told 
> you so".
> 
> I hear that echo now. (smiles)
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> Are We Alone in the Universe?
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
>> On 9/7/2016 11:56 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>> for folks who belly ached about not having a 100+ year old jack in 
>> your phone, you can charge and use the jack at the same time.
>> 
>> Now wasn’t all that flaming worth it?  Ah well, you know who got to 
>> spout off and get clicks for his blog.
>> 
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Re: and you can charge and have audio at the same time over 3.5 adapter

[Scott Granados]

Oh so two points here.

First, Thomas Edison screwed Nicola Tesla continuously.  It’s a really 
interesting part of world history really.  Edison hired Tesla when he came to 
the united states to work on his generators.  Tesla did about 50 thousand 
dollars worth of work which was huge money in the late 19th century early 20th. 
 When Tesla completed his work Edison refused to pay him and said “I was only 
joking”.  Tesla then got funded by JP Morgan and worked with Westinghouse 
developing the alternating current.  Tesla’s goal though was to have towers 
that would beam electricity in to the air and users would have devices that 
would pick this current up like a radio wave and use it as they need.  Tesla’s 
goal was free electricity for everyone but that was 180 degrees out of what 
Edison wanted so they battled for years.  Edison invented the electric chair 
for example to show that electricity was extremely dangerous and Tesla built 
his coil that he would stand on top and shoot electricity out of his hands to 
demonstrate that it was safe and not dangerous to people if used correctly.  I 
made the connection though because Tesla was working on the mother of all 
wireless chargers and actually went so far as to build several towers some of 
which are in my part of the world.  He also built the power system up in the 
falls which today is still one of the largest power generation facilities.  His 
AC power and transformers changed the world and are still used today. So that’s 
why I made the connection.

Second, the electro magnetic radiation thing is largely a farce and something 
that is good for conspiracy radio and selling fake vitamin pills and protectors 
but in reality it’s very safe and none of that is true.
There was a study done recently claiming cell phones were dangerous.  
What they did though was expose mice to over 1000 times the dosage that a 
person would receive in a life time.  This means they microwaved the mice.  
Sure, if I put a mouse in front of a 5 kilowatt microwave transmitter just far 
enough it won’t cook directly it’s definitely going to cause cancer.  The few 
hundred militants we’re talking about with phone for example though won’t even 
penetrate the outer layer of skin and is totally deflected by the water in your 
cells.
The University of Miami demonstrated that direct stimulation of the 
brain with high frequency radio waves at low intensity if directed properly 
could have beneficial properties for alzheimers and dementia patients.  The 
lower the frequency also the less concerning as you’re not getting close to 
resonating water molecules which is how a microwave works.
The big thing though is the inverse square law.  This means that every 
time you double your distance from a transmission source the effective radiated 
power you receive is reduced by the square route.  So for example if you were 
at 1 meter receiving 9 watts and you moved to 2 meters you now receive 3.  
That’s a very gross simplification of the math but you get the idea.  So 
basically when you’re talking wave lengths this high, even moving millimeters 
decreases the exposure by the square route.  So this effect makes it very 
difficult to be exposed to dangerous levels of EM radio waves with out very 
specific focusing, amplification and tuning of the frequency.  Hell most of 
these technologies like cell phone base stations won’t even give you RF burn if 
you directly touch the metal on the antenna.

Anyway, that’s how that works.

Thanks

> On Sep 9, 2016, at 5:38 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Sounds intresting but how to protect you from the possible electro magnetic 
> fields?
> What does eddison has to do with wireless chargin *lol*?
> /A
>> On 9 Sep 2016, at 15:23, Scott Granados  wrote:
>> 
>> David, that is so cool.
>> 
>> So you could slap a few charging stations in your home and just charge by 
>> being in the house.  Same with your office.  I could see that being 
>> installed in other places as well like starbucks or in train cars etc.  Auto 
>> manufacturers could install that with Apple Car Play so you’re charging 
>> while driving to work or car pooling.
>> 
>> Take that Thomas Edison.;)
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 8, 2016, at 8:13 PM, David Chittenden  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Apple has an exclusive with a company which has developed a way of 
>>> performing distance wireless charging. The distance is up to 5 metres, 
>>> about 15 feet. So, within 5 metres of the charger, the iPhone automatically 
>>> starts charging.
>>> 
>>> My suspicion is they found a flaw, so deactivated the charging chip. I hope 
>>> it will be activated in the next iPhone and the next iPad. If so, I will 
>>> purchase a few wall ports so I can have charging stations in various 
>>> locations around home and the office. After all, I now use my iPhone and 
>>> iPad exclusively for work. My Mac is mainly for backing up the other 

Re: and you can charge and have audio at the same time over 3.5 adapter

[David Chittenden]

It was supposed to be in the 7 series. I suspect they recently found 
complications which could not be resolved in time. I hope it is cleared up by 
the next iPhone.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

> On 9 Sep 2016, at 23:23, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> David, that is so cool.
> 
> So you could slap a few charging stations in your home and just charge by 
> being in the house.  Same with your office.  I could see that being installed 
> in other places as well like starbucks or in train cars etc.  Auto 
> manufacturers could install that with Apple Car Play so you’re charging while 
> driving to work or car pooling.
> 
> Take that Thomas Edison.;)
> 
> 
>> On Sep 8, 2016, at 8:13 PM, David Chittenden  wrote:
>> 
>> Apple has an exclusive with a company which has developed a way of 
>> performing distance wireless charging. The distance is up to 5 metres, about 
>> 15 feet. So, within 5 metres of the charger, the iPhone automatically starts 
>> charging.
>> 
>> My suspicion is they found a flaw, so deactivated the charging chip. I hope 
>> it will be activated in the next iPhone and the next iPad. If so, I will 
>> purchase a few wall ports so I can have charging stations in various 
>> locations around home and the office. After all, I now use my iPhone and 
>> iPad exclusively for work. My Mac is mainly for backing up the other 
>> devices, updating the other devices (better update when done through 
>> iTunes), and home file server.
>> 
>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 9 Sep 2016, at 00:51, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Obviously, I'm missing something. I don't understand what the big deal is 
>>> about wireless charging. I mean, the  pad or whatever that you put the 
>>> phone on has to be plugged into charge right? So what's the big deal?
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Sep 8, 2016, at 7:21 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
 
 I was hoping for wireless charging as well but no such luck.
 
 You can add it on with 3rd party hardware but what’s the point.  It should 
 be included in my opinion.
 
> On Sep 8, 2016, at 5:16 AM, Michael Marshall  
> wrote:
> 
> I did not hear about an adapter with charging capabilities for nine 
> dollars. I know you can get replacement adapters for $9 if you lose them.
> I was hoping they would bring in wireless charging
>> On 8 Sep. 2016, at 7:12 pm, Ray Foret jr  wrote:
>> 
>> Point taken.  However, I believe that Apple will sell, (for $9.00) or 
>> so, a version of the adapter wich DOES have the charging port.  Now, 
>> were it up to me, I’d have encluded the charging port version.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the 
>> blind built-in
>> 
>> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>> Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!
>> 
>>> On Sep 7, 2016, at 3:56 PM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
>>> 
>>> While I agree that this is being blown way out of proportion, according 
>>> to the images that are on the Apple website and in the store app, there 
>>> is not a pass the report for charging with the new lightning to 3.5mm  
>>> adapter. That would probably explain why it's only nine dollars to 
>>> replace it.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus
>>> 
 On Sep 7, 2016, at 3:16 PM, E.T.  wrote:
 
 I am not in the least bit surprised that Apple thought this through 
 carefully. Reminds me of the date 12/2q/12 that so many believed was 
 the end of the world. The Mayans did not get it wrong, they just did 
 not get around to updating their calendar. Probably many said "I told 
 you so".
 
 I hear that echo now. (smiles)
 
 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
 Are We Alone in the Universe?
 ancient.ali...@icloud.com
 
> On 9/7/2016 11:56 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
> for folks who belly ached about not having a 100+ year old jack in 
> your phone, you can charge and use the jack at the same time.
> 
> Now wasn’t all that flaming worth it?  Ah well, you know who got to 
> spout off and get clicks for his blog.
> 
 
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Re: and you can charge and have audio at the same time over 3.5 adapter

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Sounds intresting but how to protect you from the possible electro magnetic 
fields?
What does eddison has to do with wireless chargin *lol*?
/A
> On 9 Sep 2016, at 15:23, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> David, that is so cool.
> 
> So you could slap a few charging stations in your home and just charge by 
> being in the house.  Same with your office.  I could see that being installed 
> in other places as well like starbucks or in train cars etc.  Auto 
> manufacturers could install that with Apple Car Play so you’re charging while 
> driving to work or car pooling.
> 
> Take that Thomas Edison.;)
> 
> 
>> On Sep 8, 2016, at 8:13 PM, David Chittenden  wrote:
>> 
>> Apple has an exclusive with a company which has developed a way of 
>> performing distance wireless charging. The distance is up to 5 metres, about 
>> 15 feet. So, within 5 metres of the charger, the iPhone automatically starts 
>> charging.
>> 
>> My suspicion is they found a flaw, so deactivated the charging chip. I hope 
>> it will be activated in the next iPhone and the next iPad. If so, I will 
>> purchase a few wall ports so I can have charging stations in various 
>> locations around home and the office. After all, I now use my iPhone and 
>> iPad exclusively for work. My Mac is mainly for backing up the other 
>> devices, updating the other devices (better update when done through 
>> iTunes), and home file server.
>> 
>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 9 Sep 2016, at 00:51, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Obviously, I'm missing something. I don't understand what the big deal is 
>>> about wireless charging. I mean, the  pad or whatever that you put the 
>>> phone on has to be plugged into charge right? So what's the big deal?
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Sep 8, 2016, at 7:21 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
 
 I was hoping for wireless charging as well but no such luck.
 
 You can add it on with 3rd party hardware but what’s the point.  It should 
 be included in my opinion.
 
> On Sep 8, 2016, at 5:16 AM, Michael Marshall  
> wrote:
> 
> I did not hear about an adapter with charging capabilities for nine 
> dollars. I know you can get replacement adapters for $9 if you lose them.
> I was hoping they would bring in wireless charging
>> On 8 Sep. 2016, at 7:12 pm, Ray Foret jr  wrote:
>> 
>> Point taken.  However, I believe that Apple will sell, (for $9.00) or 
>> so, a version of the adapter wich DOES have the charging port.  Now, 
>> were it up to me, I’d have encluded the charging port version.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the 
>> blind built-in
>> 
>> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>> Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!
>> 
>>> On Sep 7, 2016, at 3:56 PM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
>>> 
>>> While I agree that this is being blown way out of proportion, according 
>>> to the images that are on the Apple website and in the store app, there 
>>> is not a pass the report for charging with the new lightning to 3.5mm  
>>> adapter. That would probably explain why it's only nine dollars to 
>>> replace it.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus
>>> 
 On Sep 7, 2016, at 3:16 PM, E.T.  wrote:
 
 I am not in the least bit surprised that Apple thought this through 
 carefully. Reminds me of the date 12/2q/12 that so many believed was 
 the end of the world. The Mayans did not get it wrong, they just did 
 not get around to updating their calendar. Probably many said "I told 
 you so".
 
 I hear that echo now. (smiles)
 
 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
 Are We Alone in the Universe?
 ancient.ali...@icloud.com
 
> On 9/7/2016 11:56 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
> for folks who belly ached about not having a 100+ year old jack in 
> your phone, you can charge and use the jack at the same time.
> 
> Now wasn’t all that flaming worth it?  Ah well, you know who got to 
> spout off and get clicks for his blog.
> 
 
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Re: and you can charge and have audio at the same time over 3.5 adapter

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Hmm, sounds intresting.
But i have to go check it when it comes to sweden.
Not going to buy the thing though i think.

Even if its good i wanted it to be a bit smaller.
Like the Iphone SE.
/A
> On 8 Sep 2016, at 18:43, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
>  I unders,
> Well in this case, I think the people writing about the home button were 
> saying that the feeling you got when you interacted with it was quite 
> disconcerting, very noticeable, out of the ordinary, not at all like what 
> happens on the MacBook trackpad, which apparently really does feel like 
> you're clicking. This does not feel like the button is moving, and is quite 
> disconcerting, is how I understood their reaction.  
> 
> Mary
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Sep 8, 2016, at 9:20 AM, Anders Holmberg  > wrote:
> 
>> Hi!
>> What is Jaaring for me who is not a native english?
>> /A
>>> On 8 Sep 2016, at 16:57, Mary Otten >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Scott, since you actually had hands on the phone, what can you say about 
>>> the home button. Is it like on android phones that don't have one? That is, 
>>> you just have a glass and you find a home button by exploring? Or is there 
>>> still some kind of dimple or other tactile indication as to the home 
>>> button's whereabouts? How about the feel of the  home button? A couple of 
>>> the mainstream  reviews I read, where they had brief hands-on, did not like 
>>> the home button. But change is hard. They were saying it was really quite 
>>> jarring, not like the trackpad on say a MacBook.
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Sep 8, 2016, at 7:18 AM, Scott Granados >> > wrote:
>>> 
 This talk of there being no charging port is strange to me because the one 
 I held from in the box had one.  The shape was sort of like a lighting 
 port then a small cable with a very small box on the end with a 1/8th inch 
 jack and an additional port for the charger.  It’s possible it’s a 
 different adapter because the phone was connected on a test bench to power 
 and the audio jack was attached for audio testing.  We used an Ixia test 
 suite for point of reference.
 
 
 If they have changed the design that seems unlikely.  I’ve requested the 
 part number from my contact so we can look up to make sure it’s the stock 
 item.
> On Sep 8, 2016, at 8:18 AM, Ray Foret jr  > wrote:
> 
> Ah, I stand corrected.  Now, if it had been me, I’d have included one 
> with the charging port on it.
> 
> Most likely if Apple doesn’t come out with one, Griffin will.  
> 
> 
> Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in
> 
> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
> Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!
> 
>> On Sep 8, 2016, at 5:43 AM, Jonathan Mosen > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Ray, the adapter for sale is simply the same as the one that comes in 
>> the box, in case you lose it or need more of them. It doesn't include a 
>> charging port.
>> Jonathan Mosen
>> Mosen Consulting
>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
>> http://Mosen.org 
>>> On 8/09/2016, at 9:12 PM, Ray Foret jr >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Point taken.  However, I believe that Apple will sell, (for $9.00) or 
>>> so, a version of the adapter wich DOES have the charging port.  Now, 
>>> were it up to me, I’d have encluded the charging port version.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the 
>>> blind built-in
>>> 
>>> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>>> Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!
>>> 
 On Sep 7, 2016, at 3:56 PM, Daniel Miller > wrote:
 
 While I agree that this is being blown way out of proportion, 
 according to the images that are on the Apple website and in the store 
 app, there is not a pass the report for charging with the new 
 lightning to 3.5mm  adapter. That would probably explain why it's only 
 nine dollars to replace it.
 
 Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus
 
> On Sep 7, 2016, at 3:16 PM, E.T.  > wrote:
> 
> I am not in the least bit surprised that Apple thought this through 
> carefully. Reminds me of the date 12/2q/12 that so many believed was 
> the end of the world. The 

Re: and you can charge and have audio at the same time over 3.5 adapter

[Scott Granados]

David, that is so cool.

So you could slap a few charging stations in your home and just charge by being 
in the house.  Same with your office.  I could see that being installed in 
other places as well like starbucks or in train cars etc.  Auto manufacturers 
could install that with Apple Car Play so you’re charging while driving to work 
or car pooling.

Take that Thomas Edison.;)


> On Sep 8, 2016, at 8:13 PM, David Chittenden  wrote:
> 
> Apple has an exclusive with a company which has developed a way of performing 
> distance wireless charging. The distance is up to 5 metres, about 15 feet. 
> So, within 5 metres of the charger, the iPhone automatically starts charging.
> 
> My suspicion is they found a flaw, so deactivated the charging chip. I hope 
> it will be activated in the next iPhone and the next iPad. If so, I will 
> purchase a few wall ports so I can have charging stations in various 
> locations around home and the office. After all, I now use my iPhone and iPad 
> exclusively for work. My Mac is mainly for backing up the other devices, 
> updating the other devices (better update when done through iTunes), and home 
> file server.
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 9 Sep 2016, at 00:51, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Obviously, I'm missing something. I don't understand what the big deal is 
>> about wireless charging. I mean, the  pad or whatever that you put the phone 
>> on has to be plugged into charge right? So what's the big deal?
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 8, 2016, at 7:21 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I was hoping for wireless charging as well but no such luck.
>>> 
>>> You can add it on with 3rd party hardware but what’s the point.  It should 
>>> be included in my opinion.
>>> 
 On Sep 8, 2016, at 5:16 AM, Michael Marshall  
 wrote:
 
 I did not hear about an adapter with charging capabilities for nine 
 dollars. I know you can get replacement adapters for $9 if you lose them.
 I was hoping they would bring in wireless charging
> On 8 Sep. 2016, at 7:12 pm, Ray Foret jr  wrote:
> 
> Point taken.  However, I believe that Apple will sell, (for $9.00) or so, 
> a version of the adapter wich DOES have the charging port.  Now, were it 
> up to me, I’d have encluded the charging port version.
> 
> 
> Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in
> 
> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
> Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!
> 
>> On Sep 7, 2016, at 3:56 PM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
>> 
>> While I agree that this is being blown way out of proportion, according 
>> to the images that are on the Apple website and in the store app, there 
>> is not a pass the report for charging with the new lightning to 3.5mm  
>> adapter. That would probably explain why it's only nine dollars to 
>> replace it.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus
>> 
>>> On Sep 7, 2016, at 3:16 PM, E.T.  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I am not in the least bit surprised that Apple thought this through 
>>> carefully. Reminds me of the date 12/2q/12 that so many believed was 
>>> the end of the world. The Mayans did not get it wrong, they just did 
>>> not get around to updating their calendar. Probably many said "I told 
>>> you so".
>>> 
>>> I hear that echo now. (smiles)
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> Are We Alone in the Universe?
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> 
 On 9/7/2016 11:56 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
 for folks who belly ached about not having a 100+ year old jack in 
 your phone, you can charge and use the jack at the same time.
 
 Now wasn’t all that flaming worth it?  Ah well, you know who got to 
 spout off and get clicks for his blog.
 
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Re: and you can charge and have audio at the same time over 3.5 adapter

[Scott Granados]

Ah, this makes more sense and makes me happy.

I was hoping they didn’t go with a proprietary wireless protocol.


> On Sep 8, 2016, at 8:19 PM, David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> The Air Pods will work, but may have slight audio delay with older devices. 
> Probably only the iPhone 7 and Apple Watch Series 2 will have no audio delay 
> as they both will have the new chipset.
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 9 Sep 2016, at 02:10, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> Will they work on the SE?
>> /A
>>> On 8 Sep 2016, at 16:20, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Simon, I believe the new pods require the W1 chip to function so no on the 
>>> 6+.  Maybe they also support regular bluetooth I don’t know but from the 
>>> presentation it doesn’t appear so.  
>>> 
>>>> On Sep 8, 2016, at 5:48 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Will the new headphones with lightening connectors be on sale soon and 
>>>> work with the older devices such as my 6sPlus 
>>>> 
>>>> And wil the apple wifi earpods work with my 6splus.
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
>>>> Sent: Thursday, 8 September 2016 10:02 AM
>>>> To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: and you can charge and have audio at the same time over 3.5 
>>>> adapter
>>>> 
>>>> Hi!
>>>> Well i was not worried about it.
>>>> But the price is to high.
>>>> So i stick with my SE right now.
>>>> But sure i want the new apple watch as i use to swim a lot.
>>>> Man this is really cool.
>>>> /A
>>>>> 7 sep. 2016 kl. 20:56 skrev Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net>:
>>>>> 
>>>>> for folks who belly ached about not having a 100+ year old jack in your 
>>>>> phone, you can charge and use the jack at the same time.
>>>>> 
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RE: and you can charge and have audio at the same time over 3.5 adapter

[Simon Fogarty]

I was under the impression that the w1 chip was what made them work not what 
connected them to the device itself.

 At least I hope that be the way it works.

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On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Friday, 9 September 2016 2:20 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: and you can charge and have audio at the same time over 3.5 adapter

Simon, I believe the new pods require the W1 chip to function so no on the 6+.  
Maybe they also support regular bluetooth I don’t know but from the 
presentation it doesn’t appear so.  

> On Sep 8, 2016, at 5:48 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
> 
> Will the new headphones with lightening connectors be on sale soon and work 
> with the older devices such as my 6sPlus 
> 
> And wil the apple wifi earpods work with my 6splus.
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
> Sent: Thursday, 8 September 2016 10:02 AM
> To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: and you can charge and have audio at the same time over 3.5 
> adapter
> 
> Hi!
> Well i was not worried about it.
> But the price is to high.
> So i stick with my SE right now.
> But sure i want the new apple watch as i use to swim a lot.
> Man this is really cool.
> /A
>> 7 sep. 2016 kl. 20:56 skrev Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net>:
>> 
>> for folks who belly ached about not having a 100+ year old jack in your 
>> phone, you can charge and use the jack at the same time.
>> 
>> Now wasn’t all that flaming worth it?  Ah well, you know who got to spout 
>> off and get clicks for his blog.
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RE: and you can charge and have audio at the same time over 3.5 adapter

[Simon Fogarty]

Or Belcon

Their pretty good at releasing apple adaptor products.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Jed Barton
Sent: Friday, 9 September 2016 12:38 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: and you can charge and have audio at the same time over 3.5 adapter

wanna catch up on the phone for a bit?
401-255-6575

On 9/8/2016 8:18 AM, Ray Foret jr wrote:
> Ah, I stand corrected.  Now, if it had been me, I’d have included one 
> with the charging port on it.
>
> Most likely if Apple doesn’t come out with one, Griffin will.
>
>
> Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the 
> blind built-in
>
> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very happy Mac, 
> Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!
>
>> On Sep 8, 2016, at 5:43 AM, Jonathan Mosen <jmo...@mosen.org 
>> <mailto:jmo...@mosen.org>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Ray, the adapter for sale is simply the same as the one that comes 
>> in the box, in case you lose it or need more of them. It doesn't 
>> include a charging port.
>> Jonathan Mosen
>> Mosen Consulting
>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org 
>> <http://mosen.org/>
>>
>>> On 8/09/2016, at 9:12 PM, Ray Foret jr <rforet7...@comcast.net 
>>> <mailto:rforet7...@comcast.net>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Point taken.  However, I believe that Apple will sell, (for $9.00) 
>>> or so, a version of the adapter wich DOES have the charging port.  
>>> Now, were it up to me, I’d have encluded the charging port version.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the 
>>> blind built-in
>>>
>>> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very happy Mac, 
>>> Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!
>>>
>>>> On Sep 7, 2016, at 3:56 PM, Daniel Miller <miller...@gmail.com 
>>>> <mailto:miller...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> While I agree that this is being blown way out of proportion, 
>>>> according to the images that are on the Apple website and in the 
>>>> store app, there is not a pass the report for charging with the new 
>>>> lightning to 3.5mm  adapter. That would probably explain why it's 
>>>> only nine dollars to replace it.
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus
>>>>
>>>>> On Sep 7, 2016, at 3:16 PM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
>>>>> <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I am not in the least bit surprised that Apple thought this 
>>>>> through carefully. Reminds me of the date 12/2q/12 that so many 
>>>>> believed was the end of the world. The Mayans did not get it 
>>>>> wrong, they just did not get around to updating their calendar. 
>>>>> Probably many said "I told you so".
>>>>>
>>>>> I hear that echo now. (smiles)
>>>>>
>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>>> Are We Alone in the Universe?
>>>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 9/7/2016 11:56 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>>>>>> for folks who belly ached about not having a 100+ year old jack 
>>>>>> in your phone, you can charge and use the jack at the same time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now wasn’t all that flaming worth it?  Ah well, you know who got 
>>>>>> to spout off and get clicks for his blog.
>>>>>>
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Re: and you can charge and have audio at the same time over 3.5 adapter

[David Chittenden]

The Air Pods will work, but may have slight audio delay with older devices. 
Probably only the iPhone 7 and Apple Watch Series 2 will have no audio delay as 
they both will have the new chipset.

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> On 9 Sep 2016, at 02:10, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se> wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Will they work on the SE?
> /A
>> On 8 Sep 2016, at 16:20, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Simon, I believe the new pods require the W1 chip to function so no on the 
>> 6+.  Maybe they also support regular bluetooth I don’t know but from the 
>> presentation it doesn’t appear so.  
>> 
>>> On Sep 8, 2016, at 5:48 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Will the new headphones with lightening connectors be on sale soon and work 
>>> with the older devices such as my 6sPlus 
>>> 
>>> And wil the apple wifi earpods work with my 6splus.
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
>>> Sent: Thursday, 8 September 2016 10:02 AM
>>> To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>> Subject: Re: and you can charge and have audio at the same time over 3.5 
>>> adapter
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> Well i was not worried about it.
>>> But the price is to high.
>>> So i stick with my SE right now.
>>> But sure i want the new apple watch as i use to swim a lot.
>>> Man this is really cool.
>>> /A
>>>> 7 sep. 2016 kl. 20:56 skrev Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net>:
>>>> 
>>>> for folks who belly ached about not having a 100+ year old jack in your 
>>>> phone, you can charge and use the jack at the same time.
>>>> 
>>>> Now wasn’t all that flaming worth it?  Ah well, you know who got to spout 
>>>> off and get clicks for his blog.
>>>> 
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Re: and you can charge and have audio at the same time over 3.5 adapter

[David Chittenden]

Yes, they will work on any iPhone which is updated to iOS 10.

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> On 9 Sep 2016, at 02:10, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se> wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Will they work on the SE?
> /A
>> On 8 Sep 2016, at 16:20, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Simon, I believe the new pods require the W1 chip to function so no on the 
>> 6+.  Maybe they also support regular bluetooth I don’t know but from the 
>> presentation it doesn’t appear so.  
>> 
>>> On Sep 8, 2016, at 5:48 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Will the new headphones with lightening connectors be on sale soon and work 
>>> with the older devices such as my 6sPlus 
>>> 
>>> And wil the apple wifi earpods work with my 6splus.
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
>>> Sent: Thursday, 8 September 2016 10:02 AM
>>> To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>> Subject: Re: and you can charge and have audio at the same time over 3.5 
>>> adapter
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> Well i was not worried about it.
>>> But the price is to high.
>>> So i stick with my SE right now.
>>> But sure i want the new apple watch as i use to swim a lot.
>>> Man this is really cool.
>>> /A
>>>> 7 sep. 2016 kl. 20:56 skrev Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net>:
>>>> 
>>>> for folks who belly ached about not having a 100+ year old jack in your 
>>>> phone, you can charge and use the jack at the same time.
>>>> 
>>>> Now wasn’t all that flaming worth it?  Ah well, you know who got to spout 
>>>> off and get clicks for his blog.
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Re: and you can charge and have audio at the same time over 3.5 adapter

[David Chittenden]

Apple has an exclusive with a company which has developed a way of performing 
distance wireless charging. The distance is up to 5 metres, about 15 feet. So, 
within 5 metres of the charger, the iPhone automatically starts charging.

My suspicion is they found a flaw, so deactivated the charging chip. I hope it 
will be activated in the next iPhone and the next iPad. If so, I will purchase 
a few wall ports so I can have charging stations in various locations around 
home and the office. After all, I now use my iPhone and iPad exclusively for 
work. My Mac is mainly for backing up the other devices, updating the other 
devices (better update when done through iTunes), and home file server.

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> On 9 Sep 2016, at 00:51, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Obviously, I'm missing something. I don't understand what the big deal is 
> about wireless charging. I mean, the  pad or whatever that you put the phone 
> on has to be plugged into charge right? So what's the big deal?
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 8, 2016, at 7:21 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>> 
>> I was hoping for wireless charging as well but no such luck.
>> 
>> You can add it on with 3rd party hardware but what’s the point.  It should 
>> be included in my opinion.
>> 
>>> On Sep 8, 2016, at 5:16 AM, Michael Marshall  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I did not hear about an adapter with charging capabilities for nine 
>>> dollars. I know you can get replacement adapters for $9 if you lose them.
>>> I was hoping they would bring in wireless charging
 On 8 Sep. 2016, at 7:12 pm, Ray Foret jr  wrote:
 
 Point taken.  However, I believe that Apple will sell, (for $9.00) or so, 
 a version of the adapter wich DOES have the charging port.  Now, were it 
 up to me, I’d have encluded the charging port version.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in
 
 Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
 Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!
 
> On Sep 7, 2016, at 3:56 PM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
> 
> While I agree that this is being blown way out of proportion, according 
> to the images that are on the Apple website and in the store app, there 
> is not a pass the report for charging with the new lightning to 3.5mm  
> adapter. That would probably explain why it's only nine dollars to 
> replace it.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus
> 
>> On Sep 7, 2016, at 3:16 PM, E.T.  wrote:
>> 
>> I am not in the least bit surprised that Apple thought this through 
>> carefully. Reminds me of the date 12/2q/12 that so many believed was the 
>> end of the world. The Mayans did not get it wrong, they just did not get 
>> around to updating their calendar. Probably many said "I told you so".
>> 
>> I hear that echo now. (smiles)
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>> Are We Alone in the Universe?
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> 
>>> On 9/7/2016 11:56 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>>> for folks who belly ached about not having a 100+ year old jack in your 
>>> phone, you can charge and use the jack at the same time.
>>> 
>>> Now wasn’t all that flaming worth it?  Ah well, you know who got to 
>>> spout off and get clicks for his blog.
>>> 
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Re: and you can charge and have audio at the same time over 3.5 adapter

[David Chittenden]

They support Bluetooth as well. Apple specifically states the Air Pods will 
work with any iOS device running iOS 10. For Mac, it must run Mac Siera. For 
Apple Watch, it must run Apple Watch 3.

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> On 9 Sep 2016, at 00:20, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net> wrote:
> 
> Simon, I believe the new pods require the W1 chip to function so no on the 
> 6+.  Maybe they also support regular bluetooth I don’t know but from the 
> presentation it doesn’t appear so.  
> 
>> On Sep 8, 2016, at 5:48 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Will the new headphones with lightening connectors be on sale soon and work 
>> with the older devices such as my 6sPlus 
>> 
>> And wil the apple wifi earpods work with my 6splus.
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
>> Sent: Thursday, 8 September 2016 10:02 AM
>> To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: and you can charge and have audio at the same time over 3.5 
>> adapter
>> 
>> Hi!
>> Well i was not worried about it.
>> But the price is to high.
>> So i stick with my SE right now.
>> But sure i want the new apple watch as i use to swim a lot.
>> Man this is really cool.
>> /A
>>> 7 sep. 2016 kl. 20:56 skrev Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net>:
>>> 
>>> for folks who belly ached about not having a 100+ year old jack in your 
>>> phone, you can charge and use the jack at the same time.
>>> 
>>> Now wasn’t all that flaming worth it?  Ah well, you know who got to spout 
>>> off and get clicks for his blog.
>>> 
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Re: and you can charge and have audio at the same time over 3.5 adapter

[Michael Marshall]

I love Griffin, they make the fantastic iMike USB thing with the mike jack 
witch i use.
You could get a lightning dock, they have a 3.5 Jack on them and ability to 
connect to power and listen to music.
Belkin just announced a splitter called the Lightning Audio + Charge RockStar, 
which will be available in October, and will allow you to plug your Lightning 
charge cable into one side, and a pair of Lightning headphones into the other
Not great solutions I know but solutions nonetheless..  
> On 8 Sep. 2016, at 10:18 pm, Ray Foret jr  wrote:
> 
> Ah, I stand corrected.  Now, if it had been me, I’d have included one with 
> the charging port on it.
> 
> Most likely if Apple doesn’t come out with one, Griffin will.  
> 
> 
> Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in
> 
> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
> Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!
> 
>> On Sep 8, 2016, at 5:43 AM, Jonathan Mosen > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Ray, the adapter for sale is simply the same as the one that comes in the 
>> box, in case you lose it or need more of them. It doesn't include a charging 
>> port.
>> Jonathan Mosen
>> Mosen Consulting
>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
>> http://Mosen.org 
>>> On 8/09/2016, at 9:12 PM, Ray Foret jr >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Point taken.  However, I believe that Apple will sell, (for $9.00) or so, a 
>>> version of the adapter wich DOES have the charging port.  Now, were it up 
>>> to me, I’d have encluded the charging port version.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>>> built-in
>>> 
>>> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>>> Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!
>>> 
 On Sep 7, 2016, at 3:56 PM, Daniel Miller > wrote:
 
 While I agree that this is being blown way out of proportion, according to 
 the images that are on the Apple website and in the store app, there is 
 not a pass the report for charging with the new lightning to 3.5mm  
 adapter. That would probably explain why it's only nine dollars to replace 
 it.
 
 Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus
 
> On Sep 7, 2016, at 3:16 PM, E.T.  > wrote:
> 
> I am not in the least bit surprised that Apple thought this through 
> carefully. Reminds me of the date 12/2q/12 that so many believed was the 
> end of the world. The Mayans did not get it wrong, they just did not get 
> around to updating their calendar. Probably many said "I told you so".
> 
> I hear that echo now. (smiles)
> 
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> ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
> 
>> On 9/7/2016 11:56 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>> for folks who belly ached about not having a 100+ year old jack in your 
>> phone, you can charge and use the jack at the same time.
>> 
>> Now wasn’t all that flaming worth it?  Ah well, you know who got to 
>> spout off and get clicks for his blog.
>> 
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Re: and you can charge and have audio at the same time over 3.5 adapter

[Mary Otten]

 I unders,
Well in this case, I think the people writing about the home button were saying 
that the feeling you got when you interacted with it was quite disconcerting, 
very noticeable, out of the ordinary, not at all like what happens on the 
MacBook trackpad, which apparently really does feel like you're clicking. This 
does not feel like the button is moving, and is quite disconcerting, is how I 
understood their reaction.  

Mary

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 8, 2016, at 9:20 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> What is Jaaring for me who is not a native english?
> /A
>> On 8 Sep 2016, at 16:57, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Scott, since you actually had hands on the phone, what can you say about the 
>> home button. Is it like on android phones that don't have one? That is, you 
>> just have a glass and you find a home button by exploring? Or is there still 
>> some kind of dimple or other tactile indication as to the home button's 
>> whereabouts? How about the feel of the  home button? A couple of the 
>> mainstream  reviews I read, where they had brief hands-on, did not like the 
>> home button. But change is hard. They were saying it was really quite 
>> jarring, not like the trackpad on say a MacBook.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 8, 2016, at 7:18 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>>> 
>>> This talk of there being no charging port is strange to me because the one 
>>> I held from in the box had one.  The shape was sort of like a lighting port 
>>> then a small cable with a very small box on the end with a 1/8th inch jack 
>>> and an additional port for the charger.  It’s possible it’s a different 
>>> adapter because the phone was connected on a test bench to power and the 
>>> audio jack was attached for audio testing.  We used an Ixia test suite for 
>>> point of reference.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> If they have changed the design that seems unlikely.  I’ve requested the 
>>> part number from my contact so we can look up to make sure it’s the stock 
>>> item.
 On Sep 8, 2016, at 8:18 AM, Ray Foret jr  wrote:
 
 Ah, I stand corrected.  Now, if it had been me, I’d have included one with 
 the charging port on it.
 
 Most likely if Apple doesn’t come out with one, Griffin will.  
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in
 
 Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
 Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!
 
> On Sep 8, 2016, at 5:43 AM, Jonathan Mosen  wrote:
> 
> Hi Ray, the adapter for sale is simply the same as the one that comes in 
> the box, in case you lose it or need more of them. It doesn't include a 
> charging port.
> Jonathan Mosen
> Mosen Consulting
> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
> http://Mosen.org
> 
>> On 8/09/2016, at 9:12 PM, Ray Foret jr  wrote:
>> 
>> Point taken.  However, I believe that Apple will sell, (for $9.00) or 
>> so, a version of the adapter wich DOES have the charging port.  Now, 
>> were it up to me, I’d have encluded the charging port version.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the 
>> blind built-in
>> 
>> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>> Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!
>> 
>>> On Sep 7, 2016, at 3:56 PM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
>>> 
>>> While I agree that this is being blown way out of proportion, according 
>>> to the images that are on the Apple website and in the store app, there 
>>> is not a pass the report for charging with the new lightning to 3.5mm  
>>> adapter. That would probably explain why it's only nine dollars to 
>>> replace it.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus
>>> 
 On Sep 7, 2016, at 3:16 PM, E.T.  wrote:
 
 I am not in the least bit surprised that Apple thought this through 
 carefully. Reminds me of the date 12/2q/12 that so many believed was 
 the end of the world. The Mayans did not get it wrong, they just did 
 not get around to updating their calendar. Probably many said "I told 
 you so".
 
 I hear that echo now. (smiles)
 
 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
 Are We Alone in the Universe?
 ancient.ali...@icloud.com
 
> On 9/7/2016 11:56 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
> for folks who belly ached about not having a 100+ year old jack in 
> your phone, you can charge and use the jack at the same time.
> 
> Now wasn’t all that flaming worth it?  Ah well, you know who got to 
> spout off and get clicks for his blog.
 
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Re: and you can charge and have audio at the same time over 3.5 adapter

[E.T.]

   Rather, perhaps its high time to put this to bed instead.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
  Are We Alone in the Universe?
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 9/8/2016 9:23 AM, Jonathan Mosen wrote:

Since the subject line of this thread is factually incorrect at present,
might be useful to change it.
Jonathan Mosen
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Re: and you can charge and have audio at the same time over 3.5 adapter

[Jonathan Mosen]

Since the subject line of this thread is factually incorrect at present, might 
be useful to change it.
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Re: and you can charge and have audio at the same time over 3.5 adapter

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
What is Jaaring for me who is not a native english?
/A
> On 8 Sep 2016, at 16:57, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Scott, since you actually had hands on the phone, what can you say about the 
> home button. Is it like on android phones that don't have one? That is, you 
> just have a glass and you find a home button by exploring? Or is there still 
> some kind of dimple or other tactile indication as to the home button's 
> whereabouts? How about the feel of the  home button? A couple of the 
> mainstream  reviews I read, where they had brief hands-on, did not like the 
> home button. But change is hard. They were saying it was really quite 
> jarring, not like the trackpad on say a MacBook.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Sep 8, 2016, at 7:18 AM, Scott Granados  > wrote:
> 
>> This talk of there being no charging port is strange to me because the one I 
>> held from in the box had one.  The shape was sort of like a lighting port 
>> then a small cable with a very small box on the end with a 1/8th inch jack 
>> and an additional port for the charger.  It’s possible it’s a different 
>> adapter because the phone was connected on a test bench to power and the 
>> audio jack was attached for audio testing.  We used an Ixia test suite for 
>> point of reference.
>> 
>> 
>> If they have changed the design that seems unlikely.  I’ve requested the 
>> part number from my contact so we can look up to make sure it’s the stock 
>> item.
>>> On Sep 8, 2016, at 8:18 AM, Ray Foret jr >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ah, I stand corrected.  Now, if it had been me, I’d have included one with 
>>> the charging port on it.
>>> 
>>> Most likely if Apple doesn’t come out with one, Griffin will.  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>>> built-in
>>> 
>>> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>>> Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!
>>> 
 On Sep 8, 2016, at 5:43 AM, Jonathan Mosen > wrote:
 
 Hi Ray, the adapter for sale is simply the same as the one that comes in 
 the box, in case you lose it or need more of them. It doesn't include a 
 charging port.
 Jonathan Mosen
 Mosen Consulting
 Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
 http://Mosen.org 
> On 8/09/2016, at 9:12 PM, Ray Foret jr  > wrote:
> 
> Point taken.  However, I believe that Apple will sell, (for $9.00) or so, 
> a version of the adapter wich DOES have the charging port.  Now, were it 
> up to me, I’d have encluded the charging port version.
> 
> 
> Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in
> 
> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
> Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!
> 
>> On Sep 7, 2016, at 3:56 PM, Daniel Miller > > wrote:
>> 
>> While I agree that this is being blown way out of proportion, according 
>> to the images that are on the Apple website and in the store app, there 
>> is not a pass the report for charging with the new lightning to 3.5mm  
>> adapter. That would probably explain why it's only nine dollars to 
>> replace it.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus
>> 
>>> On Sep 7, 2016, at 3:16 PM, E.T. >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> I am not in the least bit surprised that Apple thought this through 
>>> carefully. Reminds me of the date 12/2q/12 that so many believed was 
>>> the end of the world. The Mayans did not get it wrong, they just did 
>>> not get around to updating their calendar. Probably many said "I told 
>>> you so".
>>> 
>>> I hear that echo now. (smiles)
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> Are We Alone in the Universe?
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
>>> 
 On 9/7/2016 11:56 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
 for folks who belly ached about not having a 100+ year old jack in 
 your phone, you can charge and use the jack at the same time.
 
 Now wasn’t all that flaming worth it?  Ah well, you know who got to 
 spout off and get clicks for his blog.
 
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Re: and you can charge and have audio at the same time over 3.5 adapter

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Will they work on the SE?
/A
> On 8 Sep 2016, at 16:20, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net> wrote:
> 
> Simon, I believe the new pods require the W1 chip to function so no on the 
> 6+.  Maybe they also support regular bluetooth I don’t know but from the 
> presentation it doesn’t appear so.  
> 
>> On Sep 8, 2016, at 5:48 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Will the new headphones with lightening connectors be on sale soon and work 
>> with the older devices such as my 6sPlus 
>> 
>> And wil the apple wifi earpods work with my 6splus.
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
>> Sent: Thursday, 8 September 2016 10:02 AM
>> To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: and you can charge and have audio at the same time over 3.5 
>> adapter
>> 
>> Hi!
>> Well i was not worried about it.
>> But the price is to high.
>> So i stick with my SE right now.
>> But sure i want the new apple watch as i use to swim a lot.
>> Man this is really cool.
>> /A
>>> 7 sep. 2016 kl. 20:56 skrev Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net>:
>>> 
>>> for folks who belly ached about not having a 100+ year old jack in your 
>>> phone, you can charge and use the jack at the same time.
>>> 
>>> Now wasn’t all that flaming worth it?  Ah well, you know who got to spout 
>>> off and get clicks for his blog.
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Re: and you can charge and have audio at the same time over 3.5 adapter

[Scott Granados]

Nah not creepy to me, very cool.  Shows me that Nicola Tesla was only a century 
ahead of his time.;)

I think of him every time someone mentions wireless charging.  The idea of 
beaming electricity through space and tapping it where you want it was his 
dream although he had a slightly larger scale in mind.  Damn Thomas Edison and 
his dirty dealings anyway.  We might have been pulling free energy out of the 
air if it weren’t for him.;)

> On Sep 8, 2016, at 11:12 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> I have heard about the experimental wireless charging where you just have to 
> be in the vicinity of the charge source. Kind of creepy in some senses. But 
> it certainly would be convenient.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 8, 2016, at 7:58 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>> 
>> It’s just a nice convenience thing, you can just set your phone on your desk 
>> and it’s charging.  There’s also larger installations that you can take 
>> advantage of for example Starbucks I believe has a wireless charging option 
>> or at least was looking at that.
>> 
>> I’m not sure if it’s in the wild yet but there’s also work being done on 
>> more distant wireless charging so you just need to be in a room for example 
>> with the charging source.  I think that’s still pretty experimental though, 
>> the only systems I have personally seen are the type with a pad.
>> 
>>> On Sep 8, 2016, at 10:51 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Obviously, I'm missing something. I don't understand what the big deal is 
>>> about wireless charging. I mean, the  pad or whatever that you put the 
>>> phone on has to be plugged into charge right? So what's the big deal?
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Sep 8, 2016, at 7:21 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
 
 I was hoping for wireless charging as well but no such luck.
 
 You can add it on with 3rd party hardware but what’s the point.  It should 
 be included in my opinion.
 
> On Sep 8, 2016, at 5:16 AM, Michael Marshall  
> wrote:
> 
> I did not hear about an adapter with charging capabilities for nine 
> dollars. I know you can get replacement adapters for $9 if you lose them.
> I was hoping they would bring in wireless charging
>> On 8 Sep. 2016, at 7:12 pm, Ray Foret jr  wrote:
>> 
>> Point taken.  However, I believe that Apple will sell, (for $9.00) or 
>> so, a version of the adapter wich DOES have the charging port.  Now, 
>> were it up to me, I’d have encluded the charging port version.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the 
>> blind built-in
>> 
>> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>> Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!
>> 
>>> On Sep 7, 2016, at 3:56 PM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
>>> 
>>> While I agree that this is being blown way out of proportion, according 
>>> to the images that are on the Apple website and in the store app, there 
>>> is not a pass the report for charging with the new lightning to 3.5mm  
>>> adapter. That would probably explain why it's only nine dollars to 
>>> replace it.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus
>>> 
 On Sep 7, 2016, at 3:16 PM, E.T.  wrote:
 
 I am not in the least bit surprised that Apple thought this through 
 carefully. Reminds me of the date 12/2q/12 that so many believed was 
 the end of the world. The Mayans did not get it wrong, they just did 
 not get around to updating their calendar. Probably many said "I told 
 you so".
 
 I hear that echo now. (smiles)
 
 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
 Are We Alone in the Universe?
 ancient.ali...@icloud.com
 
> On 9/7/2016 11:56 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
> for folks who belly ached about not having a 100+ year old jack in 
> your phone, you can charge and use the jack at the same time.
> 
> Now wasn’t all that flaming worth it?  Ah well, you know who got to 
> spout off and get clicks for his blog.
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Re: and you can charge and have audio at the same time over 3.5 adapter

[Mary Otten]

Thanks. Very helpful. I haven't tried the keyboard caps. Since I have speech 
turned on, I haven't really seen the point for me. But it might be interesting 
to try.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 8, 2016, at 8:09 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> So I only held the phone for a few seconds and didn’t get to put it through 
> it’s paces although I’m ordering one tonight so we’ll see.:)
> 
> The button was still tactile in that there’s a button round area unlike the 
> all glass feel of android but it’s not a mechanical button.  The taptic 
> reminds me of the way the keyboard taps in IOS 10 if you’ve tried that.
> 
> Remember, unlike Android, the fingerprint censor is still in the home button 
> area so there’s still a physical presence.  Imagine a button with no throw.  
> Android phones tend to put the finger print reader on the back or elsewhere 
> not in the screen itself.
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 8, 2016, at 10:57 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Scott, since you actually had hands on the phone, what can you say about the 
>> home button. Is it like on android phones that don't have one? That is, you 
>> just have a glass and you find a home button by exploring? Or is there still 
>> some kind of dimple or other tactile indication as to the home button's 
>> whereabouts? How about the feel of the  home button? A couple of the 
>> mainstream  reviews I read, where they had brief hands-on, did not like the 
>> home button. But change is hard. They were saying it was really quite 
>> jarring, not like the trackpad on say a MacBook.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 8, 2016, at 7:18 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>>> 
>>> This talk of there being no charging port is strange to me because the one 
>>> I held from in the box had one.  The shape was sort of like a lighting port 
>>> then a small cable with a very small box on the end with a 1/8th inch jack 
>>> and an additional port for the charger.  It’s possible it’s a different 
>>> adapter because the phone was connected on a test bench to power and the 
>>> audio jack was attached for audio testing.  We used an Ixia test suite for 
>>> point of reference.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> If they have changed the design that seems unlikely.  I’ve requested the 
>>> part number from my contact so we can look up to make sure it’s the stock 
>>> item.
 On Sep 8, 2016, at 8:18 AM, Ray Foret jr  wrote:
 
 Ah, I stand corrected.  Now, if it had been me, I’d have included one with 
 the charging port on it.
 
 Most likely if Apple doesn’t come out with one, Griffin will.  
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in
 
 Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
 Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!
 
> On Sep 8, 2016, at 5:43 AM, Jonathan Mosen  wrote:
> 
> Hi Ray, the adapter for sale is simply the same as the one that comes in 
> the box, in case you lose it or need more of them. It doesn't include a 
> charging port.
> Jonathan Mosen
> Mosen Consulting
> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
> http://Mosen.org
> 
>> On 8/09/2016, at 9:12 PM, Ray Foret jr  wrote:
>> 
>> Point taken.  However, I believe that Apple will sell, (for $9.00) or 
>> so, a version of the adapter wich DOES have the charging port.  Now, 
>> were it up to me, I’d have encluded the charging port version.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the 
>> blind built-in
>> 
>> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>> Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!
>> 
>>> On Sep 7, 2016, at 3:56 PM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
>>> 
>>> While I agree that this is being blown way out of proportion, according 
>>> to the images that are on the Apple website and in the store app, there 
>>> is not a pass the report for charging with the new lightning to 3.5mm  
>>> adapter. That would probably explain why it's only nine dollars to 
>>> replace it.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus
>>> 
 On Sep 7, 2016, at 3:16 PM, E.T.  wrote:
 
 I am not in the least bit surprised that Apple thought this through 
 carefully. Reminds me of the date 12/2q/12 that so many believed was 
 the end of the world. The Mayans did not get it wrong, they just did 
 not get around to updating their calendar. Probably many said "I told 
 you so".
 
 I hear that echo now. (smiles)
 
 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
 Are We Alone in the Universe?
 ancient.ali...@icloud.com
 
> On 9/7/2016 11:56 AM, Scott Granados 

Re: and you can charge and have audio at the same time over 3.5 adapter

[Mary Otten]

I have heard about the experimental wireless charging where you just have to be 
in the vicinity of the charge source. Kind of creepy in some senses. But it 
certainly would be convenient.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 8, 2016, at 7:58 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> It’s just a nice convenience thing, you can just set your phone on your desk 
> and it’s charging.  There’s also larger installations that you can take 
> advantage of for example Starbucks I believe has a wireless charging option 
> or at least was looking at that.
> 
> I’m not sure if it’s in the wild yet but there’s also work being done on more 
> distant wireless charging so you just need to be in a room for example with 
> the charging source.  I think that’s still pretty experimental though, the 
> only systems I have personally seen are the type with a pad.
> 
>> On Sep 8, 2016, at 10:51 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Obviously, I'm missing something. I don't understand what the big deal is 
>> about wireless charging. I mean, the  pad or whatever that you put the phone 
>> on has to be plugged into charge right? So what's the big deal?
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 8, 2016, at 7:21 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I was hoping for wireless charging as well but no such luck.
>>> 
>>> You can add it on with 3rd party hardware but what’s the point.  It should 
>>> be included in my opinion.
>>> 
 On Sep 8, 2016, at 5:16 AM, Michael Marshall  
 wrote:
 
 I did not hear about an adapter with charging capabilities for nine 
 dollars. I know you can get replacement adapters for $9 if you lose them.
 I was hoping they would bring in wireless charging
> On 8 Sep. 2016, at 7:12 pm, Ray Foret jr  wrote:
> 
> Point taken.  However, I believe that Apple will sell, (for $9.00) or so, 
> a version of the adapter wich DOES have the charging port.  Now, were it 
> up to me, I’d have encluded the charging port version.
> 
> 
> Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in
> 
> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
> Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!
> 
>> On Sep 7, 2016, at 3:56 PM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
>> 
>> While I agree that this is being blown way out of proportion, according 
>> to the images that are on the Apple website and in the store app, there 
>> is not a pass the report for charging with the new lightning to 3.5mm  
>> adapter. That would probably explain why it's only nine dollars to 
>> replace it.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus
>> 
>>> On Sep 7, 2016, at 3:16 PM, E.T.  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I am not in the least bit surprised that Apple thought this through 
>>> carefully. Reminds me of the date 12/2q/12 that so many believed was 
>>> the end of the world. The Mayans did not get it wrong, they just did 
>>> not get around to updating their calendar. Probably many said "I told 
>>> you so".
>>> 
>>> I hear that echo now. (smiles)
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> Are We Alone in the Universe?
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> 
 On 9/7/2016 11:56 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
 for folks who belly ached about not having a 100+ year old jack in 
 your phone, you can charge and use the jack at the same time.
 
 Now wasn’t all that flaming worth it?  Ah well, you know who got to 
 spout off and get clicks for his blog.
 
>>> 
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Re: and you can charge and have audio at the same time over 3.5 adapter

[Scott Granados]

So I only held the phone for a few seconds and didn’t get to put it through 
it’s paces although I’m ordering one tonight so we’ll see.:)

The button was still tactile in that there’s a button round area unlike the all 
glass feel of android but it’s not a mechanical button.  The taptic reminds me 
of the way the keyboard taps in IOS 10 if you’ve tried that.

Remember, unlike Android, the fingerprint censor is still in the home button 
area so there’s still a physical presence.  Imagine a button with no throw.  
Android phones tend to put the finger print reader on the back or elsewhere not 
in the screen itself.



> On Sep 8, 2016, at 10:57 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Scott, since you actually had hands on the phone, what can you say about the 
> home button. Is it like on android phones that don't have one? That is, you 
> just have a glass and you find a home button by exploring? Or is there still 
> some kind of dimple or other tactile indication as to the home button's 
> whereabouts? How about the feel of the  home button? A couple of the 
> mainstream  reviews I read, where they had brief hands-on, did not like the 
> home button. But change is hard. They were saying it was really quite 
> jarring, not like the trackpad on say a MacBook.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Sep 8, 2016, at 7:18 AM, Scott Granados  > wrote:
> 
>> This talk of there being no charging port is strange to me because the one I 
>> held from in the box had one.  The shape was sort of like a lighting port 
>> then a small cable with a very small box on the end with a 1/8th inch jack 
>> and an additional port for the charger.  It’s possible it’s a different 
>> adapter because the phone was connected on a test bench to power and the 
>> audio jack was attached for audio testing.  We used an Ixia test suite for 
>> point of reference.
>> 
>> 
>> If they have changed the design that seems unlikely.  I’ve requested the 
>> part number from my contact so we can look up to make sure it’s the stock 
>> item.
>>> On Sep 8, 2016, at 8:18 AM, Ray Foret jr >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ah, I stand corrected.  Now, if it had been me, I’d have included one with 
>>> the charging port on it.
>>> 
>>> Most likely if Apple doesn’t come out with one, Griffin will.  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>>> built-in
>>> 
>>> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>>> Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!
>>> 
 On Sep 8, 2016, at 5:43 AM, Jonathan Mosen > wrote:
 
 Hi Ray, the adapter for sale is simply the same as the one that comes in 
 the box, in case you lose it or need more of them. It doesn't include a 
 charging port.
 Jonathan Mosen
 Mosen Consulting
 Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
 http://Mosen.org 
> On 8/09/2016, at 9:12 PM, Ray Foret jr  > wrote:
> 
> Point taken.  However, I believe that Apple will sell, (for $9.00) or so, 
> a version of the adapter wich DOES have the charging port.  Now, were it 
> up to me, I’d have encluded the charging port version.
> 
> 
> Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in
> 
> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
> Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!
> 
>> On Sep 7, 2016, at 3:56 PM, Daniel Miller > > wrote:
>> 
>> While I agree that this is being blown way out of proportion, according 
>> to the images that are on the Apple website and in the store app, there 
>> is not a pass the report for charging with the new lightning to 3.5mm  
>> adapter. That would probably explain why it's only nine dollars to 
>> replace it.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus
>> 
>>> On Sep 7, 2016, at 3:16 PM, E.T. >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> I am not in the least bit surprised that Apple thought this through 
>>> carefully. Reminds me of the date 12/2q/12 that so many believed was 
>>> the end of the world. The Mayans did not get it wrong, they just did 
>>> not get around to updating their calendar. Probably many said "I told 
>>> you so".
>>> 
>>> I hear that echo now. (smiles)
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> Are We Alone in the Universe?
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
>>> 
 On 9/7/2016 11:56 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
 for folks who belly ached about not having a 100+ year old jack in 
 your phone, you can charge and 

Re: and you can charge and have audio at the same time over 3.5 adapter

[Scott Granados]

I checked on line and there’s no Ixia part that matches that so it must have 
come from apple.  Ixia will sometimes include various patches to make their 
hardware work in all sorts of network settings but this wasn’t one of their 
parts.  Stand by and will update as soon as he gets back to me so we can  
locate the right item.

Hell, if they didn’t mass produce one I just might since there seems to be a 
lot of interest in it.

> On Sep 8, 2016, at 10:54 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> I hope your contact gets back to you with that part number, since apparently, 
> the images that are being shown for this adapter on apples on site do not 
> have two ports.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Sep 8, 2016, at 7:18 AM, Scott Granados  > wrote:
> 
>> This talk of there being no charging port is strange to me because the one I 
>> held from in the box had one.  The shape was sort of like a lighting port 
>> then a small cable with a very small box on the end with a 1/8th inch jack 
>> and an additional port for the charger.  It’s possible it’s a different 
>> adapter because the phone was connected on a test bench to power and the 
>> audio jack was attached for audio testing.  We used an Ixia test suite for 
>> point of reference.
>> 
>> 
>> If they have changed the design that seems unlikely.  I’ve requested the 
>> part number from my contact so we can look up to make sure it’s the stock 
>> item.
>>> On Sep 8, 2016, at 8:18 AM, Ray Foret jr >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ah, I stand corrected.  Now, if it had been me, I’d have included one with 
>>> the charging port on it.
>>> 
>>> Most likely if Apple doesn’t come out with one, Griffin will.  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>>> built-in
>>> 
>>> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>>> Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!
>>> 
 On Sep 8, 2016, at 5:43 AM, Jonathan Mosen > wrote:
 
 Hi Ray, the adapter for sale is simply the same as the one that comes in 
 the box, in case you lose it or need more of them. It doesn't include a 
 charging port.
 Jonathan Mosen
 Mosen Consulting
 Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
 http://Mosen.org 
> On 8/09/2016, at 9:12 PM, Ray Foret jr  > wrote:
> 
> Point taken.  However, I believe that Apple will sell, (for $9.00) or so, 
> a version of the adapter wich DOES have the charging port.  Now, were it 
> up to me, I’d have encluded the charging port version.
> 
> 
> Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in
> 
> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
> Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!
> 
>> On Sep 7, 2016, at 3:56 PM, Daniel Miller > > wrote:
>> 
>> While I agree that this is being blown way out of proportion, according 
>> to the images that are on the Apple website and in the store app, there 
>> is not a pass the report for charging with the new lightning to 3.5mm  
>> adapter. That would probably explain why it's only nine dollars to 
>> replace it.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus
>> 
>>> On Sep 7, 2016, at 3:16 PM, E.T. >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> I am not in the least bit surprised that Apple thought this through 
>>> carefully. Reminds me of the date 12/2q/12 that so many believed was 
>>> the end of the world. The Mayans did not get it wrong, they just did 
>>> not get around to updating their calendar. Probably many said "I told 
>>> you so".
>>> 
>>> I hear that echo now. (smiles)
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> Are We Alone in the Universe?
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
>>> 
 On 9/7/2016 11:56 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
 for folks who belly ached about not having a 100+ year old jack in 
 your phone, you can charge and use the jack at the same time.
 
 Now wasn’t all that flaming worth it?  Ah well, you know who got to 
 spout off and get clicks for his blog.
 
>>> 
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Re: and you can charge and have audio at the same time over 3.5 adapter

[Scott Granados]

It’s just a nice convenience thing, you can just set your phone on your desk 
and it’s charging.  There’s also larger installations that you can take 
advantage of for example Starbucks I believe has a wireless charging option or 
at least was looking at that.

I’m not sure if it’s in the wild yet but there’s also work being done on more 
distant wireless charging so you just need to be in a room for example with the 
charging source.  I think that’s still pretty experimental though, the only 
systems I have personally seen are the type with a pad.

> On Sep 8, 2016, at 10:51 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Obviously, I'm missing something. I don't understand what the big deal is 
> about wireless charging. I mean, the  pad or whatever that you put the phone 
> on has to be plugged into charge right? So what's the big deal?
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 8, 2016, at 7:21 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>> 
>> I was hoping for wireless charging as well but no such luck.
>> 
>> You can add it on with 3rd party hardware but what’s the point.  It should 
>> be included in my opinion.
>> 
>>> On Sep 8, 2016, at 5:16 AM, Michael Marshall  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I did not hear about an adapter with charging capabilities for nine 
>>> dollars. I know you can get replacement adapters for $9 if you lose them.
>>> I was hoping they would bring in wireless charging
 On 8 Sep. 2016, at 7:12 pm, Ray Foret jr  wrote:
 
 Point taken.  However, I believe that Apple will sell, (for $9.00) or so, 
 a version of the adapter wich DOES have the charging port.  Now, were it 
 up to me, I’d have encluded the charging port version.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in
 
 Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
 Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!
 
> On Sep 7, 2016, at 3:56 PM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
> 
> While I agree that this is being blown way out of proportion, according 
> to the images that are on the Apple website and in the store app, there 
> is not a pass the report for charging with the new lightning to 3.5mm  
> adapter. That would probably explain why it's only nine dollars to 
> replace it.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus
> 
>> On Sep 7, 2016, at 3:16 PM, E.T.  wrote:
>> 
>> I am not in the least bit surprised that Apple thought this through 
>> carefully. Reminds me of the date 12/2q/12 that so many believed was the 
>> end of the world. The Mayans did not get it wrong, they just did not get 
>> around to updating their calendar. Probably many said "I told you so".
>> 
>> I hear that echo now. (smiles)
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>> Are We Alone in the Universe?
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> 
>>> On 9/7/2016 11:56 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>>> for folks who belly ached about not having a 100+ year old jack in your 
>>> phone, you can charge and use the jack at the same time.
>>> 
>>> Now wasn’t all that flaming worth it?  Ah well, you know who got to 
>>> spout off and get clicks for his blog.
>>> 
>> 
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Re: and you can charge and have audio at the same time over 3.5 adapter

[Mary Otten]

Scott, since you actually had hands on the phone, what can you say about the 
home button. Is it like on android phones that don't have one? That is, you 
just have a glass and you find a home button by exploring? Or is there still 
some kind of dimple or other tactile indication as to the home button's 
whereabouts? How about the feel of the  home button? A couple of the mainstream 
 reviews I read, where they had brief hands-on, did not like the home button. 
But change is hard. They were saying it was really quite jarring, not like the 
trackpad on say a MacBook.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 8, 2016, at 7:18 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> This talk of there being no charging port is strange to me because the one I 
> held from in the box had one.  The shape was sort of like a lighting port 
> then a small cable with a very small box on the end with a 1/8th inch jack 
> and an additional port for the charger.  It’s possible it’s a different 
> adapter because the phone was connected on a test bench to power and the 
> audio jack was attached for audio testing.  We used an Ixia test suite for 
> point of reference.
> 
> 
> If they have changed the design that seems unlikely.  I’ve requested the part 
> number from my contact so we can look up to make sure it’s the stock item.
>> On Sep 8, 2016, at 8:18 AM, Ray Foret jr  wrote:
>> 
>> Ah, I stand corrected.  Now, if it had been me, I’d have included one with 
>> the charging port on it.
>> 
>> Most likely if Apple doesn’t come out with one, Griffin will.  
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>> built-in
>> 
>> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>> Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!
>> 
>>> On Sep 8, 2016, at 5:43 AM, Jonathan Mosen  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Ray, the adapter for sale is simply the same as the one that comes in 
>>> the box, in case you lose it or need more of them. It doesn't include a 
>>> charging port.
>>> Jonathan Mosen
>>> Mosen Consulting
>>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
>>> http://Mosen.org
>>> 
 On 8/09/2016, at 9:12 PM, Ray Foret jr  wrote:
 
 Point taken.  However, I believe that Apple will sell, (for $9.00) or so, 
 a version of the adapter wich DOES have the charging port.  Now, were it 
 up to me, I’d have encluded the charging port version.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in
 
 Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
 Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!
 
> On Sep 7, 2016, at 3:56 PM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
> 
> While I agree that this is being blown way out of proportion, according 
> to the images that are on the Apple website and in the store app, there 
> is not a pass the report for charging with the new lightning to 3.5mm  
> adapter. That would probably explain why it's only nine dollars to 
> replace it.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus
> 
>> On Sep 7, 2016, at 3:16 PM, E.T.  wrote:
>> 
>> I am not in the least bit surprised that Apple thought this through 
>> carefully. Reminds me of the date 12/2q/12 that so many believed was the 
>> end of the world. The Mayans did not get it wrong, they just did not get 
>> around to updating their calendar. Probably many said "I told you so".
>> 
>> I hear that echo now. (smiles)
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>> Are We Alone in the Universe?
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> 
>>> On 9/7/2016 11:56 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>>> for folks who belly ached about not having a 100+ year old jack in your 
>>> phone, you can charge and use the jack at the same time.
>>> 
>>> Now wasn’t all that flaming worth it?  Ah well, you know who got to 
>>> spout off and get clicks for his blog.
>>> 
>> 
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>> Visionaries list.
>> 
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Re: and you can charge and have audio at the same time over 3.5 adapter

[Mary Otten]

I hope your contact gets back to you with that part number, since apparently, 
the images that are being shown for this adapter on apples on site do not have 
two ports.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 8, 2016, at 7:18 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> This talk of there being no charging port is strange to me because the one I 
> held from in the box had one.  The shape was sort of like a lighting port 
> then a small cable with a very small box on the end with a 1/8th inch jack 
> and an additional port for the charger.  It’s possible it’s a different 
> adapter because the phone was connected on a test bench to power and the 
> audio jack was attached for audio testing.  We used an Ixia test suite for 
> point of reference.
> 
> 
> If they have changed the design that seems unlikely.  I’ve requested the part 
> number from my contact so we can look up to make sure it’s the stock item.
>> On Sep 8, 2016, at 8:18 AM, Ray Foret jr  wrote:
>> 
>> Ah, I stand corrected.  Now, if it had been me, I’d have included one with 
>> the charging port on it.
>> 
>> Most likely if Apple doesn’t come out with one, Griffin will.  
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>> built-in
>> 
>> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>> Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!
>> 
>>> On Sep 8, 2016, at 5:43 AM, Jonathan Mosen  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Ray, the adapter for sale is simply the same as the one that comes in 
>>> the box, in case you lose it or need more of them. It doesn't include a 
>>> charging port.
>>> Jonathan Mosen
>>> Mosen Consulting
>>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
>>> http://Mosen.org
>>> 
 On 8/09/2016, at 9:12 PM, Ray Foret jr  wrote:
 
 Point taken.  However, I believe that Apple will sell, (for $9.00) or so, 
 a version of the adapter wich DOES have the charging port.  Now, were it 
 up to me, I’d have encluded the charging port version.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in
 
 Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
 Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!
 
> On Sep 7, 2016, at 3:56 PM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
> 
> While I agree that this is being blown way out of proportion, according 
> to the images that are on the Apple website and in the store app, there 
> is not a pass the report for charging with the new lightning to 3.5mm  
> adapter. That would probably explain why it's only nine dollars to 
> replace it.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus
> 
>> On Sep 7, 2016, at 3:16 PM, E.T.  wrote:
>> 
>> I am not in the least bit surprised that Apple thought this through 
>> carefully. Reminds me of the date 12/2q/12 that so many believed was the 
>> end of the world. The Mayans did not get it wrong, they just did not get 
>> around to updating their calendar. Probably many said "I told you so".
>> 
>> I hear that echo now. (smiles)
>> 
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>> Are We Alone in the Universe?
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> 
>>> On 9/7/2016 11:56 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>>> for folks who belly ached about not having a 100+ year old jack in your 
>>> phone, you can charge and use the jack at the same time.
>>> 
>>> Now wasn’t all that flaming worth it?  Ah well, you know who got to 
>>> spout off and get clicks for his blog.
>>> 
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Re: and you can charge and have audio at the same time over 3.5 adapter

[Mary Otten]

 Obviously, I'm missing something. I don't understand what the big deal is 
about wireless charging. I mean, the  pad or whatever that you put the phone on 
has to be plugged into charge right? So what's the big deal?
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 8, 2016, at 7:21 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> I was hoping for wireless charging as well but no such luck.
> 
> You can add it on with 3rd party hardware but what’s the point.  It should be 
> included in my opinion.
> 
>> On Sep 8, 2016, at 5:16 AM, Michael Marshall  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I did not hear about an adapter with charging capabilities for nine dollars. 
>> I know you can get replacement adapters for $9 if you lose them.
>> I was hoping they would bring in wireless charging
>>> On 8 Sep. 2016, at 7:12 pm, Ray Foret jr  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Point taken.  However, I believe that Apple will sell, (for $9.00) or so, a 
>>> version of the adapter wich DOES have the charging port.  Now, were it up 
>>> to me, I’d have encluded the charging port version.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>>> built-in
>>> 
>>> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>>> Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!
>>> 
 On Sep 7, 2016, at 3:56 PM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
 
 While I agree that this is being blown way out of proportion, according to 
 the images that are on the Apple website and in the store app, there is 
 not a pass the report for charging with the new lightning to 3.5mm  
 adapter. That would probably explain why it's only nine dollars to replace 
 it.
 
 Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus
 
> On Sep 7, 2016, at 3:16 PM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
> I am not in the least bit surprised that Apple thought this through 
> carefully. Reminds me of the date 12/2q/12 that so many believed was the 
> end of the world. The Mayans did not get it wrong, they just did not get 
> around to updating their calendar. Probably many said "I told you so".
> 
> I hear that echo now. (smiles)
> 
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> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
>> On 9/7/2016 11:56 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>> for folks who belly ached about not having a 100+ year old jack in your 
>> phone, you can charge and use the jack at the same time.
>> 
>> Now wasn’t all that flaming worth it?  Ah well, you know who got to 
>> spout off and get clicks for his blog.
>> 
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Re: and you can charge and have audio at the same time over 3.5 adapter

[Scott Granados]

I was hoping for wireless charging as well but no such luck.

You can add it on with 3rd party hardware but what’s the point.  It should be 
included in my opinion.

> On Sep 8, 2016, at 5:16 AM, Michael Marshall  
> wrote:
> 
> I did not hear about an adapter with charging capabilities for nine dollars. 
> I know you can get replacement adapters for $9 if you lose them.
> I was hoping they would bring in wireless charging
>> On 8 Sep. 2016, at 7:12 pm, Ray Foret jr  wrote:
>> 
>> Point taken.  However, I believe that Apple will sell, (for $9.00) or so, a 
>> version of the adapter wich DOES have the charging port.  Now, were it up to 
>> me, I’d have encluded the charging port version.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>> built-in
>> 
>> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>> Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!
>> 
>>> On Sep 7, 2016, at 3:56 PM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
>>> 
>>> While I agree that this is being blown way out of proportion, according to 
>>> the images that are on the Apple website and in the store app, there is not 
>>> a pass the report for charging with the new lightning to 3.5mm  adapter. 
>>> That would probably explain why it's only nine dollars to replace it.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus
>>> 
 On Sep 7, 2016, at 3:16 PM, E.T.  wrote:
 
 I am not in the least bit surprised that Apple thought this through 
 carefully. Reminds me of the date 12/2q/12 that so many believed was the 
 end of the world. The Mayans did not get it wrong, they just did not get 
 around to updating their calendar. Probably many said "I told you so".
 
 I hear that echo now. (smiles)
 
 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
 Are We Alone in the Universe?
 ancient.ali...@icloud.com
 
> On 9/7/2016 11:56 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
> for folks who belly ached about not having a 100+ year old jack in your 
> phone, you can charge and use the jack at the same time.
> 
> Now wasn’t all that flaming worth it?  Ah well, you know who got to spout 
> off and get clicks for his blog.
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Re: and you can charge and have audio at the same time over 3.5 adapter

[Scott Granados]

Simon, I believe the new pods require the W1 chip to function so no on the 6+.  
Maybe they also support regular bluetooth I don’t know but from the 
presentation it doesn’t appear so.  

> On Sep 8, 2016, at 5:48 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
> 
> Will the new headphones with lightening connectors be on sale soon and work 
> with the older devices such as my 6sPlus 
> 
> And wil the apple wifi earpods work with my 6splus.
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
> Sent: Thursday, 8 September 2016 10:02 AM
> To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: and you can charge and have audio at the same time over 3.5 
> adapter
> 
> Hi!
> Well i was not worried about it.
> But the price is to high.
> So i stick with my SE right now.
> But sure i want the new apple watch as i use to swim a lot.
> Man this is really cool.
> /A
>> 7 sep. 2016 kl. 20:56 skrev Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net>:
>> 
>> for folks who belly ached about not having a 100+ year old jack in your 
>> phone, you can charge and use the jack at the same time.
>> 
>> Now wasn’t all that flaming worth it?  Ah well, you know who got to spout 
>> off and get clicks for his blog.
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Re: and you can charge and have audio at the same time over 3.5 adapter

[Scott Granados]

This talk of there being no charging port is strange to me because the one I 
held from in the box had one.  The shape was sort of like a lighting port then 
a small cable with a very small box on the end with a 1/8th inch jack and an 
additional port for the charger.  It’s possible it’s a different adapter 
because the phone was connected on a test bench to power and the audio jack was 
attached for audio testing.  We used an Ixia test suite for point of reference.


If they have changed the design that seems unlikely.  I’ve requested the part 
number from my contact so we can look up to make sure it’s the stock item.
> On Sep 8, 2016, at 8:18 AM, Ray Foret jr  wrote:
> 
> Ah, I stand corrected.  Now, if it had been me, I’d have included one with 
> the charging port on it.
> 
> Most likely if Apple doesn’t come out with one, Griffin will.  
> 
> 
> Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in
> 
> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
> Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!
> 
>> On Sep 8, 2016, at 5:43 AM, Jonathan Mosen > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Ray, the adapter for sale is simply the same as the one that comes in the 
>> box, in case you lose it or need more of them. It doesn't include a charging 
>> port.
>> Jonathan Mosen
>> Mosen Consulting
>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
>> http://Mosen.org 
>>> On 8/09/2016, at 9:12 PM, Ray Foret jr >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Point taken.  However, I believe that Apple will sell, (for $9.00) or so, a 
>>> version of the adapter wich DOES have the charging port.  Now, were it up 
>>> to me, I’d have encluded the charging port version.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>>> built-in
>>> 
>>> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>>> Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!
>>> 
 On Sep 7, 2016, at 3:56 PM, Daniel Miller > wrote:
 
 While I agree that this is being blown way out of proportion, according to 
 the images that are on the Apple website and in the store app, there is 
 not a pass the report for charging with the new lightning to 3.5mm  
 adapter. That would probably explain why it's only nine dollars to replace 
 it.
 
 Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus
 
> On Sep 7, 2016, at 3:16 PM, E.T.  > wrote:
> 
> I am not in the least bit surprised that Apple thought this through 
> carefully. Reminds me of the date 12/2q/12 that so many believed was the 
> end of the world. The Mayans did not get it wrong, they just did not get 
> around to updating their calendar. Probably many said "I told you so".
> 
> I hear that echo now. (smiles)
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> Are We Alone in the Universe?
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
> 
>> On 9/7/2016 11:56 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>> for folks who belly ached about not having a 100+ year old jack in your 
>> phone, you can charge and use the jack at the same time.
>> 
>> Now wasn’t all that flaming worth it?  Ah well, you know who got to 
>> spout off and get clicks for his blog.
>> 
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Re: and you can charge and have audio at the same time over 3.5 adapter

[Stacey Robinson]

Does this adapter allow for a 3.5 mm jack?
Peace,  
Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk.

mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net

> On Sep 8, 2016, at 5:43 AM, Jonathan Mosen  wrote:
> 
> Hi Ray, the adapter for sale is simply the same as the one that comes in the 
> box, in case you lose it or need more of them. It doesn't include a charging 
> port.
> Jonathan Mosen
> Mosen Consulting
> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
> http://Mosen.org 
>> On 8/09/2016, at 9:12 PM, Ray Foret jr > > wrote:
>> 
>> Point taken.  However, I believe that Apple will sell, (for $9.00) or so, a 
>> version of the adapter wich DOES have the charging port.  Now, were it up to 
>> me, I’d have encluded the charging port version.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>> built-in
>> 
>> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>> Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!
>> 
>>> On Sep 7, 2016, at 3:56 PM, Daniel Miller >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> While I agree that this is being blown way out of proportion, according to 
>>> the images that are on the Apple website and in the store app, there is not 
>>> a pass the report for charging with the new lightning to 3.5mm  adapter. 
>>> That would probably explain why it's only nine dollars to replace it.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus
>>> 
 On Sep 7, 2016, at 3:16 PM, E.T. > wrote:
 
 I am not in the least bit surprised that Apple thought this through 
 carefully. Reminds me of the date 12/2q/12 that so many believed was the 
 end of the world. The Mayans did not get it wrong, they just did not get 
 around to updating their calendar. Probably many said "I told you so".
 
 I hear that echo now. (smiles)
 
 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
 Are We Alone in the Universe?
 ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
 
> On 9/7/2016 11:56 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
> for folks who belly ached about not having a 100+ year old jack in your 
> phone, you can charge and use the jack at the same time.
> 
> Now wasn’t all that flaming worth it?  Ah well, you know who got to spout 
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Re: and you can charge and have audio at the same time over 3.5 adapter

[Jed Barton]

sorry guys, that was the wrong list, my bad

On 9/8/2016 8:18 AM, Ray Foret jr wrote:

Ah, I stand corrected.  Now, if it had been me, I’d have included one
with the charging port on it.

Most likely if Apple doesn’t come out with one, Griffin will.


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On Sep 8, 2016, at 5:43 AM, Jonathan Mosen > wrote:

Hi Ray, the adapter for sale is simply the same as the one that comes
in the box, in case you lose it or need more of them. It doesn't
include a charging port.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
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On 8/09/2016, at 9:12 PM, Ray Foret jr > wrote:

Point taken.  However, I believe that Apple will sell, (for $9.00) or
so, a version of the adapter wich DOES have the charging port.  Now,
were it up to me, I’d have encluded the charging port version.


Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the
blind built-in

Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!


On Sep 7, 2016, at 3:56 PM, Daniel Miller > wrote:

While I agree that this is being blown way out of proportion,
according to the images that are on the Apple website and in the
store app, there is not a pass the report for charging with the new
lightning to 3.5mm  adapter. That would probably explain why it's
only nine dollars to replace it.

Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus


On Sep 7, 2016, at 3:16 PM, E.T. > wrote:

I am not in the least bit surprised that Apple thought this through
carefully. Reminds me of the date 12/2q/12 that so many believed
was the end of the world. The Mayans did not get it wrong, they
just did not get around to updating their calendar. Probably many
said "I told you so".

I hear that echo now. (smiles)

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On 9/7/2016 11:56 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
for folks who belly ached about not having a 100+ year old jack in
your phone, you can charge and use the jack at the same time.

Now wasn’t all that flaming worth it?  Ah well, you know who got
to spout off and get clicks for his blog.



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Re: and you can charge and have audio at the same time over 3.5 adapter

[Jed Barton]

wanna catch up on the phone for a bit?
401-255-6575

On 9/8/2016 8:18 AM, Ray Foret jr wrote:

Ah, I stand corrected.  Now, if it had been me, I’d have included one
with the charging port on it.

Most likely if Apple doesn’t come out with one, Griffin will.


Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the
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Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!


On Sep 8, 2016, at 5:43 AM, Jonathan Mosen > wrote:

Hi Ray, the adapter for sale is simply the same as the one that comes
in the box, in case you lose it or need more of them. It doesn't
include a charging port.
Jonathan Mosen
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On 8/09/2016, at 9:12 PM, Ray Foret jr > wrote:

Point taken.  However, I believe that Apple will sell, (for $9.00) or
so, a version of the adapter wich DOES have the charging port.  Now,
were it up to me, I’d have encluded the charging port version.


Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the
blind built-in

Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!


On Sep 7, 2016, at 3:56 PM, Daniel Miller > wrote:

While I agree that this is being blown way out of proportion,
according to the images that are on the Apple website and in the
store app, there is not a pass the report for charging with the new
lightning to 3.5mm  adapter. That would probably explain why it's
only nine dollars to replace it.

Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus


On Sep 7, 2016, at 3:16 PM, E.T. > wrote:

I am not in the least bit surprised that Apple thought this through
carefully. Reminds me of the date 12/2q/12 that so many believed
was the end of the world. The Mayans did not get it wrong, they
just did not get around to updating their calendar. Probably many
said "I told you so".

I hear that echo now. (smiles)

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On 9/7/2016 11:56 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
for folks who belly ached about not having a 100+ year old jack in
your phone, you can charge and use the jack at the same time.

Now wasn’t all that flaming worth it?  Ah well, you know who got
to spout off and get clicks for his blog.



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Re: and you can charge and have audio at the same time over 3.5 adapter

[Ray Foret jr]

Ah, I stand corrected.  Now, if it had been me, I’d have included one with the 
charging port on it.

Most likely if Apple doesn’t come out with one, Griffin will.  


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> On Sep 8, 2016, at 5:43 AM, Jonathan Mosen  wrote:
> 
> Hi Ray, the adapter for sale is simply the same as the one that comes in the 
> box, in case you lose it or need more of them. It doesn't include a charging 
> port.
> Jonathan Mosen
> Mosen Consulting
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>> On 8/09/2016, at 9:12 PM, Ray Foret jr > > wrote:
>> 
>> Point taken.  However, I believe that Apple will sell, (for $9.00) or so, a 
>> version of the adapter wich DOES have the charging port.  Now, were it up to 
>> me, I’d have encluded the charging port version.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>> built-in
>> 
>> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>> Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!
>> 
>>> On Sep 7, 2016, at 3:56 PM, Daniel Miller >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> While I agree that this is being blown way out of proportion, according to 
>>> the images that are on the Apple website and in the store app, there is not 
>>> a pass the report for charging with the new lightning to 3.5mm  adapter. 
>>> That would probably explain why it's only nine dollars to replace it.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus
>>> 
 On Sep 7, 2016, at 3:16 PM, E.T. > wrote:
 
 I am not in the least bit surprised that Apple thought this through 
 carefully. Reminds me of the date 12/2q/12 that so many believed was the 
 end of the world. The Mayans did not get it wrong, they just did not get 
 around to updating their calendar. Probably many said "I told you so".
 
 I hear that echo now. (smiles)
 
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 Are We Alone in the Universe?
 ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
 
> On 9/7/2016 11:56 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
> for folks who belly ached about not having a 100+ year old jack in your 
> phone, you can charge and use the jack at the same time.
> 
> Now wasn’t all that flaming worth it?  Ah well, you know who got to spout 
> off and get clicks for his blog.
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Re: and you can charge and have audio at the same time over 3.5 adapter

[Jonathan Mosen]

Hi Ray, the adapter for sale is simply the same as the one that comes in the 
box, in case you lose it or need more of them. It doesn't include a charging 
port.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
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> On 8/09/2016, at 9:12 PM, Ray Foret jr  wrote:
> 
> Point taken.  However, I believe that Apple will sell, (for $9.00) or so, a 
> version of the adapter wich DOES have the charging port.  Now, were it up to 
> me, I’d have encluded the charging port version.
> 
> 
> Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in
> 
> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
> Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!
> 
>> On Sep 7, 2016, at 3:56 PM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
>> 
>> While I agree that this is being blown way out of proportion, according to 
>> the images that are on the Apple website and in the store app, there is not 
>> a pass the report for charging with the new lightning to 3.5mm  adapter. 
>> That would probably explain why it's only nine dollars to replace it.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus
>> 
>>> On Sep 7, 2016, at 3:16 PM, E.T.  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I am not in the least bit surprised that Apple thought this through 
>>> carefully. Reminds me of the date 12/2q/12 that so many believed was the 
>>> end of the world. The Mayans did not get it wrong, they just did not get 
>>> around to updating their calendar. Probably many said "I told you so".
>>> 
>>> I hear that echo now. (smiles)
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> Are We Alone in the Universe?
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> 
 On 9/7/2016 11:56 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
 for folks who belly ached about not having a 100+ year old jack in your 
 phone, you can charge and use the jack at the same time.
 
 Now wasn’t all that flaming worth it?  Ah well, you know who got to spout 
 off and get clicks for his blog.
 
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RE: and you can charge and have audio at the same time over 3.5 adapter

[Simon Fogarty]

Will the new headphones with lightening connectors be on sale soon and work 
with the older devices such as my 6sPlus 

And wil the apple wifi earpods work with my 6splus.
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Subject: Re: and you can charge and have audio at the same time over 3.5 adapter

Hi!
Well i was not worried about it.
But the price is to high.
So i stick with my SE right now.
But sure i want the new apple watch as i use to swim a lot.
Man this is really cool.
/A
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Re: and you can charge and have audio at the same time over 3.5 adapter

[Michael Marshall]

I did not hear about an adapter with charging capabilities for nine dollars. I 
know you can get replacement adapters for $9 if you lose them.
I was hoping they would bring in wireless charging
> On 8 Sep. 2016, at 7:12 pm, Ray Foret jr  wrote:
> 
> Point taken.  However, I believe that Apple will sell, (for $9.00) or so, a 
> version of the adapter wich DOES have the charging port.  Now, were it up to 
> me, I’d have encluded the charging port version.
> 
> 
> Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in
> 
> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
> Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!
> 
>> On Sep 7, 2016, at 3:56 PM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
>> 
>> While I agree that this is being blown way out of proportion, according to 
>> the images that are on the Apple website and in the store app, there is not 
>> a pass the report for charging with the new lightning to 3.5mm  adapter. 
>> That would probably explain why it's only nine dollars to replace it.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus
>> 
>>> On Sep 7, 2016, at 3:16 PM, E.T.  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I am not in the least bit surprised that Apple thought this through 
>>> carefully. Reminds me of the date 12/2q/12 that so many believed was the 
>>> end of the world. The Mayans did not get it wrong, they just did not get 
>>> around to updating their calendar. Probably many said "I told you so".
>>> 
>>> I hear that echo now. (smiles)
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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>>> 
 On 9/7/2016 11:56 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
 for folks who belly ached about not having a 100+ year old jack in your 
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 Now wasn’t all that flaming worth it?  Ah well, you know who got to spout 
 off and get clicks for his blog.
 
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Re: and you can charge and have audio at the same time over 3.5 adapter

[Ray Foret jr]

Point taken.  However, I believe that Apple will sell, (for $9.00) or so, a 
version of the adapter wich DOES have the charging port.  Now, were it up to 
me, I’d have encluded the charging port version.


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> On Sep 7, 2016, at 3:56 PM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
> 
> While I agree that this is being blown way out of proportion, according to 
> the images that are on the Apple website and in the store app, there is not a 
> pass the report for charging with the new lightning to 3.5mm  adapter. That 
> would probably explain why it's only nine dollars to replace it.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus
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>> 
>>  I am not in the least bit surprised that Apple thought this through 
>> carefully. Reminds me of the date 12/2q/12 that so many believed was the end 
>> of the world. The Mayans did not get it wrong, they just did not get around 
>> to updating their calendar. Probably many said "I told you so".
>> 
>>  I hear that echo now. (smiles)
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> 
>>> On 9/7/2016 11:56 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>>> for folks who belly ached about not having a 100+ year old jack in your 
>>> phone, you can charge and use the jack at the same time.
>>> 
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Re: and you can charge and have audio at the same time over 3.5 adapter

[Terje Strømberg]

Only 3.5mm. A few weeks back i red about a dummy adapter from a chineeze or 
japaneeese website. So, someone actually have thinked about it and maybe it 
will be manufactured. The problem i think of, is the lightning port tight 
enough to hold the adapter and wire for headphones.

Take care

> 8. sep. 2016 kl. 00.10 skrev Mary Otten :
> 
> Hi all. Over on the iPhone list, there are people saying that the pictures of 
> the adapter that's going to come with the new iPhone 7 do not show the 
> ability to plug in headphones and charger at the same time. Since this is a 
> big deal, or has been made an even bigger deal now, I would be curious for 
> those of you who say that it's possible to explain how. Is there a splitter? 
> I'm just trying to figure out why the images on apples own website would 
> appear to show just the one plug for lightning and the one for the 
> headphones, not any kind of splitter making charging possible. Not trying to 
> start a war. Just trying to understand how it will work. For my personal use 
> case, it's not a big deal. I can't remember ever charging my phone and using 
> wired headphones at the same time.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Sep 7, 2016, at 3:02 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> Well i was not worried about it.
>> But the price is to high.
>> So i stick with my SE right now.
>> But sure i want the new apple watch as i use to swim a lot.
>> Man this is really cool.
>> /A
>>> 7 sep. 2016 kl. 20:56 skrev Scott Granados :
>>> 
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>>> phone, you can charge and use the jack at the same time.
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Re: and you can charge and have audio at the same time over 3.5 adapter

[Mary Otten]

OK Scott. You put out some pretty harsh language and accusations against 
Jonathan on this list earlier today. You said you'd seen the phone and seeing 
that it can charge and have the ability to use the older headphones with the 
adapter that Apple is including. How will this work with the included adapter? 
That is what you were saying, is it not? Thanks for clarifying.
Mary


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> On Sep 7, 2016, at 3:12 PM, Jonathan Mosen  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mary, that's correct. The adapter that ships with the iPhone 7 and 7 Plus 
> does not allow you to charge at the same time as you have wired headphones 
> plugged in.
> I've had this verified by sighted people who saw the adapter displayed on the 
> keynote, and looked at the adapter on Apple's site.
> Jonathan Mosen
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> 
>> On 8/09/2016, at 10:10 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all. Over on the iPhone list, there are people saying that the pictures 
>> of the adapter that's going to come with the new iPhone 7 do not show the 
>> ability to plug in headphones and charger at the same time. Since this is a 
>> big deal, or has been made an even bigger deal now, I would be curious for 
>> those of you who say that it's possible to explain how. Is there a splitter? 
>> I'm just trying to figure out why the images on apples own website would 
>> appear to show just the one plug for lightning and the one for the 
>> headphones, not any kind of splitter making charging possible. Not trying to 
>> start a war. Just trying to understand how it will work. For my personal use 
>> case, it's not a big deal. I can't remember ever charging my phone and using 
>> wired headphones at the same time.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 7, 2016, at 3:02 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> Well i was not worried about it.
>>> But the price is to high.
>>> So i stick with my SE right now.
>>> But sure i want the new apple watch as i use to swim a lot.
>>> Man this is really cool.
>>> /A
 7 sep. 2016 kl. 20:56 skrev Scott Granados :
 
 for folks who belly ached about not having a 100+ year old jack in your 
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Re: and you can charge and have audio at the same time over 3.5 adapter

[Jonathan Mosen]

Hi Mary, that's correct. The adapter that ships with the iPhone 7 and 7 Plus 
does not allow you to charge at the same time as you have wired headphones 
plugged in.
I've had this verified by sighted people who saw the adapter displayed on the 
keynote, and looked at the adapter on Apple's site.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
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http://Mosen.org

> On 8/09/2016, at 10:10 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Hi all. Over on the iPhone list, there are people saying that the pictures of 
> the adapter that's going to come with the new iPhone 7 do not show the 
> ability to plug in headphones and charger at the same time. Since this is a 
> big deal, or has been made an even bigger deal now, I would be curious for 
> those of you who say that it's possible to explain how. Is there a splitter? 
> I'm just trying to figure out why the images on apples own website would 
> appear to show just the one plug for lightning and the one for the 
> headphones, not any kind of splitter making charging possible. Not trying to 
> start a war. Just trying to understand how it will work. For my personal use 
> case, it's not a big deal. I can't remember ever charging my phone and using 
> wired headphones at the same time.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 7, 2016, at 3:02 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> Well i was not worried about it.
>> But the price is to high.
>> So i stick with my SE right now.
>> But sure i want the new apple watch as i use to swim a lot.
>> Man this is really cool.
>> /A
>>> 7 sep. 2016 kl. 20:56 skrev Scott Granados :
>>> 
>>> for folks who belly ached about not having a 100+ year old jack in your 
>>> phone, you can charge and use the jack at the same time.
>>> 
>>> Now wasn’t all that flaming worth it?  Ah well, you know who got to spout 
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Re: and you can charge and have audio at the same time over 3.5 adapter

[Mary Otten]

Hi all. Over on the iPhone list, there are people saying that the pictures of 
the adapter that's going to come with the new iPhone 7 do not show the ability 
to plug in headphones and charger at the same time. Since this is a big deal, 
or has been made an even bigger deal now, I would be curious for those of you 
who say that it's possible to explain how. Is there a splitter? I'm just trying 
to figure out why the images on apples own website would appear to show just 
the one plug for lightning and the one for the headphones, not any kind of 
splitter making charging possible. Not trying to start a war. Just trying to 
understand how it will work. For my personal use case, it's not a big deal. I 
can't remember ever charging my phone and using wired headphones at the same 
time.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 7, 2016, at 3:02 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Well i was not worried about it.
> But the price is to high.
> So i stick with my SE right now.
> But sure i want the new apple watch as i use to swim a lot.
> Man this is really cool.
> /A
>> 7 sep. 2016 kl. 20:56 skrev Scott Granados :
>> 
>> for folks who belly ached about not having a 100+ year old jack in your 
>> phone, you can charge and use the jack at the same time.
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Re: and you can charge and have audio at the same time over 3.5 adapter

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Well i was not worried about it.
But the price is to high.
So i stick with my SE right now.
But sure i want the new apple watch as i use to swim a lot.
Man this is really cool.
/A
> 7 sep. 2016 kl. 20:56 skrev Scott Granados :
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Re: and you can charge and have audio at the same time over 3.5 adapter

[Daniel Miller]

While I agree that this is being blown way out of proportion, according to the 
images that are on the Apple website and in the store app, there is not a pass 
the report for charging with the new lightning to 3.5mm  adapter. That would 
probably explain why it's only nine dollars to replace it.

Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus

> On Sep 7, 2016, at 3:16 PM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
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> carefully. Reminds me of the date 12/2q/12 that so many believed was the end 
> of the world. The Mayans did not get it wrong, they just did not get around 
> to updating their calendar. Probably many said "I told you so".
> 
>   I hear that echo now. (smiles)
> 
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> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
>> On 9/7/2016 11:56 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
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Re: and you can charge and have audio at the same time over 3.5 adapter

[Scott Granados]

Like I said, click bate.

:)

> On Sep 7, 2016, at 3:16 PM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
>   I am not in the least bit surprised that Apple thought this through 
> carefully. Reminds me of the date 12/2q/12 that so many believed was the end 
> of the world. The Mayans did not get it wrong, they just did not get around 
> to updating their calendar. Probably many said "I told you so".
> 
>   I hear that echo now. (smiles)
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>  Are We Alone in the Universe?
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 9/7/2016 11:56 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>> for folks who belly ached about not having a 100+ year old jack in your 
>> phone, you can charge and use the jack at the same time.
>> 
>> Now wasn’t all that flaming worth it?  Ah well, you know who got to spout 
>> off and get clicks for his blog.
>> 
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Re: and you can charge and have audio at the same time over 3.5 adapter

[Scott Granados]

They showed charging the phone and pods at the same time and I actually held an 
adapter that has a port for your standard lightning adapter and another for the 
8th inch jack.

Also, someone was just corrected on CNBC for raising the charging and listening 
to music concern and pointed at the adapter, you might look there for more 
detail.


> On Sep 7, 2016, at 3:22 PM, Andrew McKay <awmc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> While I believe this whole deal over moving to a more modern digital adapter 
> has been blown way out of proportion by some, I am curious, Is the fact you 
> can charge and use this adapter at the same time on their web page 
> somewhere--or just word of mouth?  I watched the entire event never heard 
> them say you could charge at the same time.
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> for folks who belly ached about not having a 100+ year old jack in your 
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> 
> Now wasn’t all that flaming worth it?  Ah well, you know who got to spout off 
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RE: and you can charge and have audio at the same time over 3.5 adapter

[Andrew McKay]

While I believe this whole deal over moving to a more modern digital adapter 
has been blown way out of proportion by some, I am curious, Is the fact you can 
charge and use this adapter at the same time on their web page somewhere--or 
just word of mouth?  I watched the entire event never heard them say you could 
charge at the same time.

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Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 2:56 PM
To: MacVisionaries 'Chris Blouch' via <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: and you can charge and have audio at the same time over 3.5 adapter

for folks who belly ached about not having a 100+ year old jack in your phone, 
you can charge and use the jack at the same time.

Now wasn’t all that flaming worth it?  Ah well, you know who got to spout off 
and get clicks for his blog.

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Re: and you can charge and have audio at the same time over 3.5 adapter

[E.T.]

   I am not in the least bit surprised that Apple thought this through 
carefully. Reminds me of the date 12/2q/12 that so many believed was the 
end of the world. The Mayans did not get it wrong, they just did not get 
around to updating their calendar. Probably many said "I told you so".


   I hear that echo now. (smiles)

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On 9/7/2016 11:56 AM, Scott Granados wrote:

for folks who belly ached about not having a 100+ year old jack in your phone, 
you can charge and use the jack at the same time.

Now wasn’t all that flaming worth it?  Ah well, you know who got to spout off 
and get clicks for his blog.



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and you can charge and have audio at the same time over 3.5 adapter

[Scott Granados]

for folks who belly ached about not having a 100+ year old jack in your phone, 
you can charge and use the jack at the same time.

Now wasn’t all that flaming worth it?  Ah well, you know who got to spout off 
and get clicks for his blog.

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