are they joking with us

2012-08-20 Thread William Windels
Hello,
I have done a clean-install of 10.8 on my new air since I had very strange 
problems with my air and , I was using in installation of 10.8 with some peaces 
of 10.7.x, 10.6.x and 10.5.x from my time-machine backup.
So, a clean install seems a good idea to determine if I had software-problems 
or other problems.

I have discovered that I can't import all my preferences of voiceover even if I 
use separated vopref-files by item or if I use a global vopref-file that was 
created before or  after the introduction of mountain Lion.

I can't understand this at all since that bug was also announced since 10.7 and 
since there where also other comments on this lists about this treads, I am 
shore others have reported this also.

Even, the speech bugs with the nuance voices aren't fixed where some things are 
spoken strange if there is a dot in the word without spaces before or after the 
dot.
This is also a bug since 10.7 and, one year and a major release later, no 
changes in this.

Do they have other priorities are there not enough people, is the last time of 
voiceover announced and perhaps something new is coming (with new problems of 
course like outspoken before voiceover)?


I am angry that this kind of bugs still exists after one year and a major 
release.

frustrated regards,
William 

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Re: are they joking with us

2012-08-20 Thread Dan Eickmeier
Hi William, , not sure what issues you're exactly having when it comes to 
importing VO preferences.  To test it, I exported mine, saved the exported file 
onto my external Hharddrive, then reset all VO preferences back to defaults, 
and then imported the file that I'd saved previously, and it worked flawlessly. 
 
On 2012-08-20, at 2:30 PM, William Windels william.wind...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello,
 I have done a clean-install of 10.8 on my new air since I had very strange 
 problems with my air and , I was using in installation of 10.8 with some 
 peaces of 10.7.x, 10.6.x and 10.5.x from my time-machine backup.
 So, a clean install seems a good idea to determine if I had software-problems 
 or other problems.
 
 I have discovered that I can't import all my preferences of voiceover even if 
 I use separated vopref-files by item or if I use a global vopref-file that 
 was created before or  after the introduction of mountain Lion.
 
 I can't understand this at all since that bug was also announced since 10.7 
 and since there where also other comments on this lists about this treads, I 
 am shore others have reported this also.
 
 Even, the speech bugs with the nuance voices aren't fixed where some things 
 are spoken strange if there is a dot in the word without spaces before or 
 after the dot.
 This is also a bug since 10.7 and, one year and a major release later, no 
 changes in this.
 
 Do they have other priorities are there not enough people, is the last time 
 of voiceover announced and perhaps something new is coming (with new problems 
 of course like outspoken before voiceover)?
 
 
 I am angry that this kind of bugs still exists after one year and a major 
 release.
 
 frustrated regards,
 William 
 
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RE: are they joking with us

2012-08-20 Thread Daniel Miller
Hi,

I think he's talking about the inability to import preferences that were
made with previous versions of OS X. For example, you can't import a
preference file you made in Lion into Mountain Lion.


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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Eickmeier
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 2:37 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: are they joking with us

Hi William, , not sure what issues you're exactly having when it comes to
importing VO preferences.  To test it, I exported mine, saved the exported
file onto my external Hharddrive, then reset all VO preferences back to
defaults, and then imported the file that I'd saved previously, and it
worked flawlessly.  
On 2012-08-20, at 2:30 PM, William Windels william.wind...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Hello,
 I have done a clean-install of 10.8 on my new air since I had very strange
problems with my air and , I was using in installation of 10.8 with some
peaces of 10.7.x, 10.6.x and 10.5.x from my time-machine backup.
 So, a clean install seems a good idea to determine if I had
software-problems or other problems.
 
 I have discovered that I can't import all my preferences of voiceover even
if I use separated vopref-files by item or if I use a global vopref-file
that was created before or  after the introduction of mountain Lion.
 
 I can't understand this at all since that bug was also announced since
10.7 and since there where also other comments on this lists about this
treads, I am shore others have reported this also.
 
 Even, the speech bugs with the nuance voices aren't fixed where some
things are spoken strange if there is a dot in the word without spaces
before or after the dot.
 This is also a bug since 10.7 and, one year and a major release later, no
changes in this.
 
 Do they have other priorities are there not enough people, is the last
time of voiceover announced and perhaps something new is coming (with new
problems of course like outspoken before voiceover)?
 
 
 I am angry that this kind of bugs still exists after one year and a major
release.
 
 frustrated regards,
 William 
 
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Re: are they joking with us

2012-08-20 Thread Christopher-Mark gilland

Here's the thing:

If you try importing VO settings from a different version of OSX into 
another version of OSX, it's not going to work.  This is because you're 
taking a set configuration from a  different version of Voiceover as well 
when you do this.


So, if you in theory, had pieces of OSX 10 6, 10 7, and, 10 8, God help you 
by the way? LOL! If you try importing settings say from 10 6 into, say, 10 
8, it's definitely not gonna work.  Same vice versa.  If you try importing 
from 10 8, back into say... 10 7, it won't give very desirable, if any, 
results.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Dan Eickmeier va3ets2...@me.com

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 3:36 PM
Subject: Re: are they joking with us


Hi William, , not sure what issues you're exactly having when it comes to 
importing VO preferences.  To test it, I exported mine, saved the exported 
file onto my external Hharddrive, then reset all VO preferences back to 
defaults, and then imported the file that I'd saved previously, and it 
worked flawlessly.
On 2012-08-20, at 2:30 PM, William Windels william.wind...@gmail.com 
wrote:



Hello,
I have done a clean-install of 10.8 on my new air since I had very strange 
problems with my air and , I was using in installation of 10.8 with some 
peaces of 10.7.x, 10.6.x and 10.5.x from my time-machine backup.
So, a clean install seems a good idea to determine if I had 
software-problems or other problems.


I have discovered that I can't import all my preferences of voiceover even 
if I use separated vopref-files by item or if I use a global vopref-file 
that was created before or  after the introduction of mountain Lion.


I can't understand this at all since that bug was also announced since 
10.7 and since there where also other comments on this lists about this 
treads, I am shore others have reported this also.


Even, the speech bugs with the nuance voices aren't fixed where some 
things are spoken strange if there is a dot in the word without spaces 
before or after the dot.
This is also a bug since 10.7 and, one year and a major release later, no 
changes in this.


Do they have other priorities are there not enough people, is the last 
time of voiceover announced and perhaps something new is coming (with new 
problems of course like outspoken before voiceover)?



I am angry that this kind of bugs still exists after one year and a major 
release.


frustrated regards,
William

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Re: are they joking with us

2012-08-20 Thread John Panarese
To simplify things, you can't import VoiceOver Preferences from an earlier 
version of Mac OS X with ease.  What I did was to copy the VO preference 
folders from my user preferences library and copy them in to my library in 
Mountain Lion.  This maintained settings from all the way back to Leopard in 
some cases.


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On Aug 20, 2012, at 3:50 PM, Christopher-Mark gilland clgillan...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 Here's the thing:
 
 If you try importing VO settings from a different version of OSX into another 
 version of OSX, it's not going to work.  This is because you're taking a set 
 configuration from a  different version of Voiceover as well when you do this.
 
 So, if you in theory, had pieces of OSX 10 6, 10 7, and, 10 8, God help you 
 by the way? LOL! If you try importing settings say from 10 6 into, say, 10 8, 
 it's definitely not gonna work.  Same vice versa.  If you try importing from 
 10 8, back into say... 10 7, it won't give very desirable, if any, results.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: Dan Eickmeier va3ets2...@me.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 3:36 PM
 Subject: Re: are they joking with us
 
 
 Hi William, , not sure what issues you're exactly having when it comes to 
 importing VO preferences.  To test it, I exported mine, saved the exported 
 file onto my external Hharddrive, then reset all VO preferences back to 
 defaults, and then imported the file that I'd saved previously, and it worked 
 flawlessly.
 On 2012-08-20, at 2:30 PM, William Windels william.wind...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello,
 I have done a clean-install of 10.8 on my new air since I had very strange 
 problems with my air and , I was using in installation of 10.8 with some 
 peaces of 10.7.x, 10.6.x and 10.5.x from my time-machine backup.
 So, a clean install seems a good idea to determine if I had 
 software-problems or other problems.
 
 I have discovered that I can't import all my preferences of voiceover even 
 if I use separated vopref-files by item or if I use a global vopref-file 
 that was created before or  after the introduction of mountain Lion.
 
 I can't understand this at all since that bug was also announced since 10.7 
 and since there where also other comments on this lists about this treads, I 
 am shore others have reported this also.
 
 Even, the speech bugs with the nuance voices aren't fixed where some things 
 are spoken strange if there is a dot in the word without spaces before or 
 after the dot.
 This is also a bug since 10.7 and, one year and a major release later, no 
 changes in this.
 
 Do they have other priorities are there not enough people, is the last time 
 of voiceover announced and perhaps something new is coming (with new 
 problems of course like outspoken before voiceover)?
 
 
 I am angry that this kind of bugs still exists after one year and a major 
 release.
 
 frustrated regards,
 William
 
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