Re: iBooks question
Good idea; thanks. Larry W. Honaker kc8...@icloud.com Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. (Psalm 119:105 KJV) > On Jan 8, 2021, at 3:37 PM, Dennis Westphal > wrote: > > After the Text you want to copy is read press VO+Shift+c. That will copy the > last spoken otterance to the clipboard. > >> Am 08.01.2021 um 20:31 schrieb 'Larry Honaker' via MacVisionaries >> : >> >> Is there a way to copy pieces of text from a purchased book in the iBooks >> App? >> >> I can understand the principle of not being able to copy the entire book; >> however, if you are studying material you are trying to learn, copying small >> sections would be most helpful. >> >> Any thoughts out there. >> >> Larry W. Honaker >> >> kc8...@icloud.com >> >> Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. >> (Psalm 119:105 KJV) >> >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/BA2EAA28-8CA5-44F5-A2FB-C7219B5D301F%40icloud.com. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/52BA88EE-A4EF-4AE2-8472-D348E5406682%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/4AE7259D-4E95-455D-915F-02F4C59DA953%40icloud.com.
Re: iBooks question
After the Text you want to copy is read press VO+Shift+c. That will copy the last spoken otterance to the clipboard. > Am 08.01.2021 um 20:31 schrieb 'Larry Honaker' via MacVisionaries > : > > Is there a way to copy pieces of text from a purchased book in the iBooks App? > > I can understand the principle of not being able to copy the entire book; > however, if you are studying material you are trying to learn, copying small > sections would be most helpful. > > Any thoughts out there. > > Larry W. Honaker > > kc8...@icloud.com > > Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. > (Psalm 119:105 KJV) > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/BA2EAA28-8CA5-44F5-A2FB-C7219B5D301F%40icloud.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/52BA88EE-A4EF-4AE2-8472-D348E5406682%40gmail.com.
iBooks question
Is there a way to copy pieces of text from a purchased book in the iBooks App? I can understand the principle of not being able to copy the entire book; however, if you are studying material you are trying to learn, copying small sections would be most helpful. Any thoughts out there. Larry W. Honaker kc8...@icloud.com Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. (Psalm 119:105 KJV) -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/BA2EAA28-8CA5-44F5-A2FB-C7219B5D301F%40icloud.com.
RE: an ibooks question
I think you should just be able to undelete them once you find them, and they'll go back to where they were before. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 7:53 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: an ibooks question Hi all, In follow up to my last message, I happily still have my deleted iBooks in my trash, so I'd like to try and restore them to iBooks that way. I see the numbered folders that contain each of the books. To what folder do I need to copy them in order for them to be restored to iBooks? thank you, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: an ibooks question
Hi Peter, As I said, only in iTunes. But at least I finally got them back. Donna On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:31 AM, peter Apgar wrote: > Can you go to the iBooks store in your purchase list and simply download them > again? > > Pete > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:37 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> Instead of putting them directly back into the folder, either copy and paste >> them to the Desktop then use the Add to Library feature under the File menu >> within iBooks itself or try a VO-shift-m on the individual book from within >> the Trash and see if there is the "Put Back" option. >> >> Later... >> >> Tim Kilburn >> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >> >>> On Sep 19, 2014, at 5:52 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> In follow up to my last message, I happily still have my deleted iBooks in >>> my trash, so I'd like to try and restore them to iBooks that way. I see >>> the numbered folders that contain each of the books. To what folder do I >>> need to copy them in order for them to be restored to iBooks? >>> thank you, >>> Donna >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: an ibooks question
Can you go to the iBooks store in your purchase list and simply download them again? Pete Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:37 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote: > > Hi, > > Instead of putting them directly back into the folder, either copy and paste > them to the Desktop then use the Add to Library feature under the File menu > within iBooks itself or try a VO-shift-m on the individual book from within > the Trash and see if there is the "Put Back" option. > > Later... > > Tim Kilburn > Fort McMurray, AB Canada > >> On Sep 19, 2014, at 5:52 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> In follow up to my last message, I happily still have my deleted iBooks in >> my trash, so I'd like to try and restore them to iBooks that way. I see the >> numbered folders that contain each of the books. To what folder do I need >> to copy them in order for them to be restored to iBooks? >> thank you, >> Donna >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: an ibooks question
Hi, Instead of putting them directly back into the folder, either copy and paste them to the Desktop then use the Add to Library feature under the File menu within iBooks itself or try a VO-shift-m on the individual book from within the Trash and see if there is the "Put Back" option. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Sep 19, 2014, at 5:52 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: > Hi all, > > In follow up to my last message, I happily still have my deleted iBooks in my > trash, so I'd like to try and restore them to iBooks that way. I see the > numbered folders that contain each of the books. To what folder do I need to > copy them in order for them to be restored to iBooks? > thank you, > Donna > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
an ibooks question
Hi all, In follow up to my last message, I happily still have my deleted iBooks in my trash, so I'd like to try and restore them to iBooks that way. I see the numbered folders that contain each of the books. To what folder do I need to copy them in order for them to be restored to iBooks? thank you, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: iBooks question
Just put your finger on the screen and you can touch each line on the page. I sometimes do this and slowly move my finger down the screen to hear each line spoken. Then I can interrogate by word or character if I desire. Flicking right and left doesn't work, but running your finger slowly up or down the screen does. Lisette On 2/02/2013, at 1:32 AM, Richard Ring wrote: > I am reading a fairly lengthy textbook using iBooks. What I am wondering, is > there a way to read a line at a time? Now, the first thing is, in my > VoiceOver rotor settings the "lines" option is selected. However, while > reading in iBooks, the "lines" option is not present on the rotor. Just > saying, this option is present on the rotor when in the Nook app. Does anyone > have thoughts on this one, or am I out of luck here? > > You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding > Sent from my Mac Book Pro > richr...@gmail.com > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: iBooks question
It made perfect sense, thanks. You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding Sent from my Mac Book Pro richr...@gmail.com On Feb 1, 2013, at 11:19 AM, Mary Otten wrote: > Well, you can't read lines in the sense of using the rotor element, because > it is absent when in the content area. But you can move around using the > braille display within the page of the book and thus get chunks of text. I > hope that made sense. > > Mary > > Mary Otten > motte...@gmail.com > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: iBooks question
Well, you can't read lines in the sense of using the rotor element, because it is absent when in the content area. But you can move around using the braille display within the page of the book and thus get chunks of text. I hope that made sense. Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: iBooks question
Can you read lines with a Braille display? You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding Sent from my Mac Book Pro richr...@gmail.com On Feb 1, 2013, at 10:56 AM, Mary Otten wrote: > Hi Rich, > You are out of luck with trying to read by lines using speech. I have written > to accessibility at Apple, and I hope you will do the same. It use to be > possible, but they broke it in the last big update, which I think was about a > year ago. Another thing I've noticed that works on Nook or I guess I should > say, is not a problem with the Nook app, is that when reading on my original > iPad, I don't get kicked out of the text area and back into the top where it > says "library" etc after a few pages of continuous reading. I thought this > happened because my iPad is older and doesn't have much memory. But I've read > bunches of pages in the Nook app using that same iPad, and it just keeps > reading along like it should. > > Mary > > Mary Otten > motte...@gmail.com > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: iBooks question
Hi Rich, You are out of luck with trying to read by lines using speech. I have written to accessibility at Apple, and I hope you will do the same. It use to be possible, but they broke it in the last big update, which I think was about a year ago. Another thing I've noticed that works on Nook or I guess I should say, is not a problem with the Nook app, is that when reading on my original iPad, I don't get kicked out of the text area and back into the top where it says "library" etc after a few pages of continuous reading. I thought this happened because my iPad is older and doesn't have much memory. But I've read bunches of pages in the Nook app using that same iPad, and it just keeps reading along like it should. Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: iBooks question
I am certainly in the book's contents, otherwise, I wouldn't be reading it at all. No lines in rotor, though. You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding Sent from my Mac Book Pro richr...@gmail.com On Feb 1, 2013, at 6:37 AM, Devin Prater wrote: > Try going to the book content before trying the roter. > > Sent from my iPod with iCloud > > On 01/02/2013, at 6:32 AM, Richard Ring wrote: > > I am reading a fairly lengthy textbook using iBooks. What I am wondering, is > there a way to read a line at a time? Now, the first thing is, in my > VoiceOver rotor settings the "lines" option is selected. However, while > reading in iBooks, the "lines" option is not present on the rotor. Just > saying, this option is present on the rotor when in the Nook app. Does anyone > have thoughts on this one, or am I out of luck here? > > You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding > Sent from my Mac Book Pro > richr...@gmail.com > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: iBooks question
Try going to the book content before trying the roter. Sent from my iPod with iCloud On 01/02/2013, at 6:32 AM, Richard Ring wrote: I am reading a fairly lengthy textbook using iBooks. What I am wondering, is there a way to read a line at a time? Now, the first thing is, in my VoiceOver rotor settings the "lines" option is selected. However, while reading in iBooks, the "lines" option is not present on the rotor. Just saying, this option is present on the rotor when in the Nook app. Does anyone have thoughts on this one, or am I out of luck here? You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding Sent from my Mac Book Pro richr...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
iBooks question
I am reading a fairly lengthy textbook using iBooks. What I am wondering, is there a way to read a line at a time? Now, the first thing is, in my VoiceOver rotor settings the "lines" option is selected. However, while reading in iBooks, the "lines" option is not present on the rotor. Just saying, this option is present on the rotor when in the Nook app. Does anyone have thoughts on this one, or am I out of luck here? You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding Sent from my Mac Book Pro richr...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
