Re: podcast appearance

[Pete Nalda]

Thanks!

Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
Louie P (Pete) Nalda
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> On Aug 12, 2018, at 12:53 PM, Yuma Decaux  wrote:
> 
> Hi pete,
> 
> Skyview does this but not constellations in 3D and neither does it work with 
> voice over.
> 
> 
> The app is tentatively called Astreos 
> 
> I will be putting up a new thread explaining Astreos in a nutshell with a 
> proper introduction.
> 
> 
> A++
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 13 Aug 2018, at 3:13 am, Pete Nalda  wrote:
>> 
>> What app y’all taking about?  I know SkyView does this visually., but never 
>> tried it with VoiceOver. 
>> 
>> Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
>> Louie P (Pete) Nalda
>> MySpace.com/musikonalda
>> Facebook.com/lpnalda
>> Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
>> Twitter: @lpnalda
>> 
>>> On Aug 11, 2018, at 3:00 PM, Yuma Decaux  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> using tones to point where on the screen is bright and not is not very 
>>> efficient for finding objects in the skies.
>>> 
>>> Here's a quick overview of how it works, I'm just orienting the phone 
>>> around when selecting an object, and I get both tactile and audio cues to 
>>> orient me towards the area in the sky where the object resides. the same 
>>> works with every object in the sky, planets, moons, manmade satellites, 
>>> comets and asteroids, near earth objects and all the 89 constellations.
>>> 
>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/yj184tgvzr481p8/Input%20Device%20Recording%2020180812%200638.mp3?dl=0
>>> 
>>> The app is not only useable for blind people like me, but also the sighted. 
>>> So if you have some residual sight, you can immediately check out the lines 
>>> of the constellations as you point your phone around you.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hope this describes it a bit, though I will make a more polished video 
>>> description in the very near future.
>>> 
>>> Have a great one
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On 12 Aug 2018, at 5:50 am, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
 
 Perhaps you should describe this process a bit more, as folks seem to 
 think that you are actually observing astronautical events with your eyes, 
 but if the Voice you are talking about is that noisy thing that makes 
 different tones based on light levels, than a person with no sight could 
 use it. Though I have to say living in suburban north america I expect I 
 would be more likely to see a jet flying over head than a constelation.
  
Best wishes,
 
 Jonathan Cohn
 
 
 
> On Aug 11, 2018, at 5:42 AM, Sandi Jazmin Kruse  
> wrote:
> 
> if you use The voice, a set of google cardboard glasses... and an
> iphone, you can see the real thing sometimes...
> 
>> On 8/11/18, Yuma Decaux  wrote:
>> Hi Everyone,
>> 
>> Firstly, is anyone interested in a podcast interview about how they see 
>> the
>> ssky as being, if they learn aspects of space, planets and other objects 
>> we
>> can't see as blind people in the sky. I have a podcast series that 
>> covers 3D
>> programming for audio, and related technologies.
>> 
>> I am co-founder of Oseyeris, and have been working on an app so I can
>> understand where the planets are, how they cycle around me in the real
>> world, as astronomy and physics are something I am passionate about.
>> 
>> Second, I would like to invite you to test a star gazing app for the 
>> blind.
>> 
>> Please follow this link, and put your name on the email list. if already
>> subscribed, your test flight will be sent very shortly.
>> 
>> I am very interested in hearing your opinions about how stars should be
>> represented, though I have laid out the initial audio "feel" of space.
>> 
>> https://www.oseyeris.com/contacts
>> 
>> 
>> Have a great day y'all
>> 
>> 
>> A++
>> 
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Re: podcast appearance

[Yuma Decaux]

Hi pete,

Skyview does this but not constellations in 3D and neither does it work with 
voice over.


The app is tentatively called Astreos 

I will be putting up a new thread explaining Astreos in a nutshell with a 
proper introduction.


A++




> On 13 Aug 2018, at 3:13 am, Pete Nalda  wrote:
> 
> What app y’all taking about?  I know SkyView does this visually., but never 
> tried it with VoiceOver. 
> 
> Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
> Louie P (Pete) Nalda
> MySpace.com/musikonalda 
> Facebook.com/lpnalda 
> Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda 
> Twitter: @lpnalda
> 
> On Aug 11, 2018, at 3:00 PM, Yuma Decaux  > wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> using tones to point where on the screen is bright and not is not very 
>> efficient for finding objects in the skies.
>> 
>> Here's a quick overview of how it works, I'm just orienting the phone around 
>> when selecting an object, and I get both tactile and audio cues to orient me 
>> towards the area in the sky where the object resides. the same works with 
>> every object in the sky, planets, moons, manmade satellites, comets and 
>> asteroids, near earth objects and all the 89 constellations.
>> 
>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/yj184tgvzr481p8/Input%20Device%20Recording%2020180812%200638.mp3?dl=0
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> The app is not only useable for blind people like me, but also the sighted. 
>> So if you have some residual sight, you can immediately check out the lines 
>> of the constellations as you point your phone around you.
>> 
>> 
>> Hope this describes it a bit, though I will make a more polished video 
>> description in the very near future.
>> 
>> Have a great one
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 12 Aug 2018, at 5:50 am, Jonathan Cohn >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Perhaps you should describe this process a bit more, as folks seem to think 
>>> that you are actually observing astronautical events with your eyes, but if 
>>> the Voice you are talking about is that noisy thing that makes different 
>>> tones based on light levels, than a person with no sight could use it. 
>>> Though I have to say living in suburban north america I expect I would be 
>>> more likely to see a jet flying over head than a constelation.
>>>  
>>> Best wishes,
>>> 
>>> Jonathan Cohn
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Aug 11, 2018, at 5:42 AM, Sandi Jazmin Kruse >>> > wrote:
 
 if you use The voice, a set of google cardboard glasses... and an
 iphone, you can see the real thing sometimes...
 
 On 8/11/18, Yuma Decaux mailto:jamy...@gmail.com>> 
 wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
> 
> Firstly, is anyone interested in a podcast interview about how they see 
> the
> ssky as being, if they learn aspects of space, planets and other objects 
> we
> can't see as blind people in the sky. I have a podcast series that covers 
> 3D
> programming for audio, and related technologies.
> 
> I am co-founder of Oseyeris, and have been working on an app so I can
> understand where the planets are, how they cycle around me in the real
> world, as astronomy and physics are something I am passionate about.
> 
> Second, I would like to invite you to test a star gazing app for the 
> blind.
> 
> Please follow this link, and put your name on the email list. if already
> subscribed, your test flight will be sent very shortly.
> 
> I am very interested in hearing your opinions about how stars should be
> represented, though I have laid out the initial audio "feel" of space.
> 
> https://www.oseyeris.com/contacts 
> 
> 
> Have a great day y'all
> 
> 
> A++
> 
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Re: podcast appearance

[Pete Nalda]

What app y’all taking about?  I know SkyView does this visually., but never 
tried it with VoiceOver. 

Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
Louie P (Pete) Nalda
MySpace.com/musikonalda
Facebook.com/lpnalda
Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
Twitter: @lpnalda

> On Aug 11, 2018, at 3:00 PM, Yuma Decaux  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> using tones to point where on the screen is bright and not is not very 
> efficient for finding objects in the skies.
> 
> Here's a quick overview of how it works, I'm just orienting the phone around 
> when selecting an object, and I get both tactile and audio cues to orient me 
> towards the area in the sky where the object resides. the same works with 
> every object in the sky, planets, moons, manmade satellites, comets and 
> asteroids, near earth objects and all the 89 constellations.
> 
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/yj184tgvzr481p8/Input%20Device%20Recording%2020180812%200638.mp3?dl=0
> 
> The app is not only useable for blind people like me, but also the sighted. 
> So if you have some residual sight, you can immediately check out the lines 
> of the constellations as you point your phone around you.
> 
> 
> Hope this describes it a bit, though I will make a more polished video 
> description in the very near future.
> 
> Have a great one
> 
> 
> 
>> On 12 Aug 2018, at 5:50 am, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
>> 
>> Perhaps you should describe this process a bit more, as folks seem to think 
>> that you are actually observing astronautical events with your eyes, but if 
>> the Voice you are talking about is that noisy thing that makes different 
>> tones based on light levels, than a person with no sight could use it. 
>> Though I have to say living in suburban north america I expect I would be 
>> more likely to see a jet flying over head than a constelation.
>>  
>>  Best wishes,
>> 
>> Jonathan Cohn
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 11, 2018, at 5:42 AM, Sandi Jazmin Kruse  wrote:
>>> 
>>> if you use The voice, a set of google cardboard glasses... and an
>>> iphone, you can see the real thing sometimes...
>>> 
 On 8/11/18, Yuma Decaux  wrote:
 Hi Everyone,
 
 Firstly, is anyone interested in a podcast interview about how they see the
 ssky as being, if they learn aspects of space, planets and other objects we
 can't see as blind people in the sky. I have a podcast series that covers 
 3D
 programming for audio, and related technologies.
 
 I am co-founder of Oseyeris, and have been working on an app so I can
 understand where the planets are, how they cycle around me in the real
 world, as astronomy and physics are something I am passionate about.
 
 Second, I would like to invite you to test a star gazing app for the blind.
 
 Please follow this link, and put your name on the email list. if already
 subscribed, your test flight will be sent very shortly.
 
 I am very interested in hearing your opinions about how stars should be
 represented, though I have laid out the initial audio "feel" of space.
 
 https://www.oseyeris.com/contacts
 
 
 Have a great day y'all
 
 
 A++
 
 
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Re: podcast appearance

[Yuma Decaux]

Simon,

If you want to test the app, just confirm your email on the contact form. You 
will receive an invite to test flight the app.

And no, I don't have malicious code to try to get whatever private info on your 
phone. It's been approved on the beta system meaning they took the time to make 
sure this type of stuff is not injected in my code base :)


A++




> On 12 Aug 2018, at 8:38 pm, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi Sandy,
> 
> Is this app going to take in to account all the space junk flying around in 
> space?
> 
> Endless satilites and other broken bits of space crap that nasa and other 
> space invaders have left up there?
> 
> What about the teslar that Musk sent up there earlier this year!
> 
> How will the app deal with the different constilations in the different 
> hemispheres such as the southern Cross and pointers that we get and the 
> northern hemisphere don't 
> 
> Or the fact that a lot of us live in urban areas where looking at the stars 
> is pretty much not likely as there are mor street lights than stars in the 
> sky.
> 
> Lots of issues to take in to account,
> If you could map it including time, geographical location or should that be 
> the exact spot you stand on when you try looking and taking in the time of 
> day / night,
> The time of the year,
> Weather conditions,
> Season of the year 
> Which all comes in to account when trying to look at the stars.
> Clarity of the night sky and freshness of air quality.
> 
> Good luck I'd love to hear how it works out. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Sandi Jazmin Kruse
> Sent: Saturday, 11 August 2018 9:42 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: podcast appearance
> 
> if you use The voice, a set of google cardboard glasses... and an iphone, you 
> can see the real thing sometimes...
> 
> On 8/11/18, Yuma Decaux  wrote:
>> Hi Everyone,
>> 
>> Firstly, is anyone interested in a podcast interview about how they 
>> see the ssky as being, if they learn aspects of space, planets and 
>> other objects we can't see as blind people in the sky. I have a 
>> podcast series that covers 3D programming for audio, and related 
>> technologies.
>> 
>> I am co-founder of Oseyeris, and have been working on an app so I can 
>> understand where the planets are, how they cycle around me in the real 
>> world, as astronomy and physics are something I am passionate about.
>> 
>> Second, I would like to invite you to test a star gazing app for the blind.
>> 
>> Please follow this link, and put your name on the email list. if 
>> already subscribed, your test flight will be sent very shortly.
>> 
>> I am very interested in hearing your opinions about how stars should 
>> be represented, though I have laid out the initial audio "feel" of space.
>> 
>> https://www.oseyeris.com/contacts
>> 
>> 
>> Have a great day y'all
>> 
>> 
>> A++
>> 
>> 
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Re: podcast appearance

[Yuma Decaux]

Hi Simon,

I think you are adressing this mail to me, Yuma.

The app takes into account every fragment of space ships that has been 
monitored by the Horizons system. This means that every manmade satellite is 
dynamically positioned with mission critical precision, with the use of the 
device's accelerometer, a few algorithms for stablisation as well as the GPS to 
further improve accuracy.

Basically, the app project started as a way of connecting via telnet to NASA's 
JPL Horizons system. The blog entry for this can be found here:

https://www.oseyeris.com/post/astrogazer-for-the-blind 
<https://www.oseyeris.com/post/astrogazer-for-the-blind>

I have coded the entire API to connect to NASA's various systems such as the 
above, as well as the sentry system, the NEO (NEar Earth Object) table and 
coded the capability to revert back from -2000 years ago to 2000 years in the 
Future. The exceptions are for the Sentry, NEO and manmade satellites which can 
predict only to about 2 months ahead. I have worked together with Jon Giorgino 
from NASA's JPL propulsion labs to get this done on the ap. I quote him in 
saying that "this app is not your standard estimation of objects in the sky, 
but integrations upon integrations of precision computation made for space 
missions".

Secondly, the constellation system is based on the most comprehensive database 
called the Vizier which aggregates every other database including the 
Hipparcos, Harvard Bright star catalogue and others through a backend system 
which updates the local database dynamically.

The blog entry on how the stars were made is below:

https://www.oseyeris.com/post/hunting-for-the-stars 
<https://www.oseyeris.com/post/hunting-for-the-stars>

The constellations are actually in full 3D. the only other application which 
does that, on the desktop is the space engine. However it's not accessible to 
blind people. There are no apps out there on IOS with full 3D constellations, 
nebulas and others. I have included the entire star categorisation system, 
their magnitudes, luminosities, categories, their particularities called 
"peculiarity" and other special features taken from the most up to date 
semantic system for star categorisation. I've also added the names of every 
available major star in the constellations.

I am still working on exposing all of that information in a format that a blind 
person can easily navigate through. But for the sighted or partially sighted, 
it's visible on screen. 

Finally, I am taking the time to open every single NASA API to the app so that 
it becomes a realtime space observatory for those of us who can't see. This 
includes toplogical information, both atmospheric, surface, temperature, 
spectral analysis etc.

Cheers






> On 12 Aug 2018, at 8:38 pm, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi Sandy,
> 
> Is this app going to take in to account all the space junk flying around in 
> space?
> 
> Endless satilites and other broken bits of space crap that nasa and other 
> space invaders have left up there?
> 
> What about the teslar that Musk sent up there earlier this year!
> 
> How will the app deal with the different constilations in the different 
> hemispheres such as the southern Cross and pointers that we get and the 
> northern hemisphere don't 
> 
> Or the fact that a lot of us live in urban areas where looking at the stars 
> is pretty much not likely as there are mor street lights than stars in the 
> sky.
> 
> Lots of issues to take in to account,
> If you could map it including time, geographical location or should that be 
> the exact spot you stand on when you try looking and taking in the time of 
> day / night,
> The time of the year,
> Weather conditions,
> Season of the year 
> Which all comes in to account when trying to look at the stars.
> Clarity of the night sky and freshness of air quality.
> 
> Good luck I'd love to hear how it works out. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Sandi Jazmin Kruse
> Sent: Saturday, 11 August 2018 9:42 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: podcast appearance
> 
> if you use The voice, a set of google cardboard glasses... and an iphone, you 
> can see the real thing sometimes...
> 
> On 8/11/18, Yuma Decaux  wrote:
>> Hi Everyone,
>> 
>> Firstly, is anyone interested in a podcast interview about how they 
>> see the ssky as being, if they learn aspects of space, planets and 
>> other objects we can't see as blind people in the sky. I have a 
>> podcast series that covers 3D programming for audio, and related 
>> technologies.
>> 
>> I am co-founder of Oseyeris, and have been working on an app so I can 
>> understand where the planets are, how they cycle around me in the real 
&

RE: podcast appearance

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Sandy,

 Is this app going to take in to account all the space junk flying around in 
space?

 Endless satilites and other broken bits of space crap that nasa and other 
space invaders have left up there?

What about the teslar that Musk sent up there earlier this year!

 How will the app deal with the different constilations in the different 
hemispheres such as the southern Cross and pointers that we get and the 
northern hemisphere don't 

Or the fact that a lot of us live in urban areas where looking at the stars is 
pretty much not likely as there are mor street lights than stars in the sky.

 Lots of issues to take in to account,
 If you could map it including time, geographical location or should that be 
the exact spot you stand on when you try looking and taking in the time of day 
/ night,
 The time of the year,
Weather conditions,
 Season of the year 
Which all comes in to account when trying to look at the stars.
 Clarity of the night sky and freshness of air quality.

Good luck I'd love to hear how it works out. 

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Sandi Jazmin Kruse
Sent: Saturday, 11 August 2018 9:42 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: podcast appearance

if you use The voice, a set of google cardboard glasses... and an iphone, you 
can see the real thing sometimes...

On 8/11/18, Yuma Decaux  wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
>
> Firstly, is anyone interested in a podcast interview about how they 
> see the ssky as being, if they learn aspects of space, planets and 
> other objects we can't see as blind people in the sky. I have a 
> podcast series that covers 3D programming for audio, and related technologies.
>
> I am co-founder of Oseyeris, and have been working on an app so I can 
> understand where the planets are, how they cycle around me in the real 
> world, as astronomy and physics are something I am passionate about.
>
> Second, I would like to invite you to test a star gazing app for the blind.
>
> Please follow this link, and put your name on the email list. if 
> already subscribed, your test flight will be sent very shortly.
>
> I am very interested in hearing your opinions about how stars should 
> be represented, though I have laid out the initial audio "feel" of space.
>
> https://www.oseyeris.com/contacts
>
>
> Have a great day y'all
>
>
> A++
>
>
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Re: podcast appearance

[Yuma Decaux]

Hi,

using tones to point where on the screen is bright and not is not very 
efficient for finding objects in the skies.

Here's a quick overview of how it works, I'm just orienting the phone around 
when selecting an object, and I get both tactile and audio cues to orient me 
towards the area in the sky where the object resides. the same works with every 
object in the sky, planets, moons, manmade satellites, comets and asteroids, 
near earth objects and all the 89 constellations.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/yj184tgvzr481p8/Input%20Device%20Recording%2020180812%200638.mp3?dl=0
 


The app is not only useable for blind people like me, but also the sighted. So 
if you have some residual sight, you can immediately check out the lines of the 
constellations as you point your phone around you.


Hope this describes it a bit, though I will make a more polished video 
description in the very near future.

Have a great one



> On 12 Aug 2018, at 5:50 am, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> Perhaps you should describe this process a bit more, as folks seem to think 
> that you are actually observing astronautical events with your eyes, but if 
> the Voice you are talking about is that noisy thing that makes different 
> tones based on light levels, than a person with no sight could use it. Though 
> I have to say living in suburban north america I expect I would be more 
> likely to see a jet flying over head than a constelation.
>  
>   Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 11, 2018, at 5:42 AM, Sandi Jazmin Kruse > > wrote:
>> 
>> if you use The voice, a set of google cardboard glasses... and an
>> iphone, you can see the real thing sometimes...
>> 
>> On 8/11/18, Yuma Decaux mailto:jamy...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> Hi Everyone,
>>> 
>>> Firstly, is anyone interested in a podcast interview about how they see the
>>> ssky as being, if they learn aspects of space, planets and other objects we
>>> can't see as blind people in the sky. I have a podcast series that covers 3D
>>> programming for audio, and related technologies.
>>> 
>>> I am co-founder of Oseyeris, and have been working on an app so I can
>>> understand where the planets are, how they cycle around me in the real
>>> world, as astronomy and physics are something I am passionate about.
>>> 
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Re: podcast appearance

[Jonathan Cohn]

Perhaps you should describe this process a bit more, as folks seem to think 
that you are actually observing astronautical events with your eyes, but if the 
Voice you are talking about is that noisy thing that makes different tones 
based on light levels, than a person with no sight could use it. Though I have 
to say living in suburban north america I expect I would be more likely to see 
a jet flying over head than a constelation.
 
Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Aug 11, 2018, at 5:42 AM, Sandi Jazmin Kruse  wrote:
> 
> if you use The voice, a set of google cardboard glasses... and an
> iphone, you can see the real thing sometimes...
> 
> On 8/11/18, Yuma Decaux  wrote:
>> Hi Everyone,
>> 
>> Firstly, is anyone interested in a podcast interview about how they see the
>> ssky as being, if they learn aspects of space, planets and other objects we
>> can't see as blind people in the sky. I have a podcast series that covers 3D
>> programming for audio, and related technologies.
>> 
>> I am co-founder of Oseyeris, and have been working on an app so I can
>> understand where the planets are, how they cycle around me in the real
>> world, as astronomy and physics are something I am passionate about.
>> 
>> Second, I would like to invite you to test a star gazing app for the blind.
>> 
>> Please follow this link, and put your name on the email list. if already
>> subscribed, your test flight will be sent very shortly.
>> 
>> I am very interested in hearing your opinions about how stars should be
>> represented, though I have laid out the initial audio "feel" of space.
>> 
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>> 
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Re: podcast appearance

[Yuma Decaux]

I’m completely blind so you don’t need to agree or disagree,. Your setup just 
won’t work for me or others like me. 

I also doubt you  can bring up constellations and be guided on where it is :)


Sent from sputnik7 

> On 11/08/2018, at 9:12 PM, Sandi Jazmin Kruse  wrote:
> 
> i dont agree with you. You can with the setup i am talking about zoom
> in on diffrent points, the ISS is a good one, of course you have to
> know the time for its passing...
> 
>> On 8/11/18, Yuma Decaux  wrote:
>> Not when you're blind, and you don't get all the information of those
>> objects in the sky.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 11 Aug 2018, at 7:42 pm, Sandi Jazmin Kruse 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> if you use The voice, a set of google cardboard glasses... and an
>>> iphone, you can see the real thing sometimes...
>>> 
 On 8/11/18, Yuma Decaux  wrote:
 Hi Everyone,
 
 Firstly, is anyone interested in a podcast interview about how they see
 the
 ssky as being, if they learn aspects of space, planets and other objects
 we
 can't see as blind people in the sky. I have a podcast series that covers
 3D
 programming for audio, and related technologies.
 
 I am co-founder of Oseyeris, and have been working on an app so I can
 understand where the planets are, how they cycle around me in the real
 world, as astronomy and physics are something I am passionate about.
 
 Second, I would like to invite you to test a star gazing app for the
 blind.
 
 Please follow this link, and put your name on the email list. if already
 subscribed, your test flight will be sent very shortly.
 
 I am very interested in hearing your opinions about how stars should be
 represented, though I have laid out the initial audio "feel" of space.
 
 https://www.oseyeris.com/contacts
 
 
 Have a great day y'all
 
 
 A++
 
 
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Re: podcast appearance

[Sandi Jazmin Kruse]

i dont agree with you. You can with the setup i am talking about zoom
in on diffrent points, the ISS is a good one, of course you have to
know the time for its passing...

On 8/11/18, Yuma Decaux  wrote:
> Not when you're blind, and you don't get all the information of those
> objects in the sky.
>
>
>
>> On 11 Aug 2018, at 7:42 pm, Sandi Jazmin Kruse 
>> wrote:
>>
>> if you use The voice, a set of google cardboard glasses... and an
>> iphone, you can see the real thing sometimes...
>>
>> On 8/11/18, Yuma Decaux  wrote:
>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>
>>> Firstly, is anyone interested in a podcast interview about how they see
>>> the
>>> ssky as being, if they learn aspects of space, planets and other objects
>>> we
>>> can't see as blind people in the sky. I have a podcast series that covers
>>> 3D
>>> programming for audio, and related technologies.
>>>
>>> I am co-founder of Oseyeris, and have been working on an app so I can
>>> understand where the planets are, how they cycle around me in the real
>>> world, as astronomy and physics are something I am passionate about.
>>>
>>> Second, I would like to invite you to test a star gazing app for the
>>> blind.
>>>
>>> Please follow this link, and put your name on the email list. if already
>>> subscribed, your test flight will be sent very shortly.
>>>
>>> I am very interested in hearing your opinions about how stars should be
>>> represented, though I have laid out the initial audio "feel" of space.
>>>
>>> https://www.oseyeris.com/contacts
>>>
>>>
>>> Have a great day y'all
>>>
>>>
>>> A++
>>>
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Re: podcast appearance

[Yuma Decaux]

Not when you're blind, and you don't get all the information of those objects 
in the sky.



> On 11 Aug 2018, at 7:42 pm, Sandi Jazmin Kruse  wrote:
> 
> if you use The voice, a set of google cardboard glasses... and an
> iphone, you can see the real thing sometimes...
> 
> On 8/11/18, Yuma Decaux  wrote:
>> Hi Everyone,
>> 
>> Firstly, is anyone interested in a podcast interview about how they see the
>> ssky as being, if they learn aspects of space, planets and other objects we
>> can't see as blind people in the sky. I have a podcast series that covers 3D
>> programming for audio, and related technologies.
>> 
>> I am co-founder of Oseyeris, and have been working on an app so I can
>> understand where the planets are, how they cycle around me in the real
>> world, as astronomy and physics are something I am passionate about.
>> 
>> Second, I would like to invite you to test a star gazing app for the blind.
>> 
>> Please follow this link, and put your name on the email list. if already
>> subscribed, your test flight will be sent very shortly.
>> 
>> I am very interested in hearing your opinions about how stars should be
>> represented, though I have laid out the initial audio "feel" of space.
>> 
>> https://www.oseyeris.com/contacts
>> 
>> 
>> Have a great day y'all
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Re: podcast appearance

[Sandi Jazmin Kruse]

if you use The voice, a set of google cardboard glasses... and an
iphone, you can see the real thing sometimes...

On 8/11/18, Yuma Decaux  wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
>
> Firstly, is anyone interested in a podcast interview about how they see the
> ssky as being, if they learn aspects of space, planets and other objects we
> can't see as blind people in the sky. I have a podcast series that covers 3D
> programming for audio, and related technologies.
>
> I am co-founder of Oseyeris, and have been working on an app so I can
> understand where the planets are, how they cycle around me in the real
> world, as astronomy and physics are something I am passionate about.
>
> Second, I would like to invite you to test a star gazing app for the blind.
>
> Please follow this link, and put your name on the email list. if already
> subscribed, your test flight will be sent very shortly.
>
> I am very interested in hearing your opinions about how stars should be
> represented, though I have laid out the initial audio "feel" of space.
>
> https://www.oseyeris.com/contacts
>
>
> Have a great day y'all
>
>
> A++
>
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podcast appearance

[Yuma Decaux]

Hi Everyone,

Firstly, is anyone interested in a podcast interview about how they see the 
ssky as being, if they learn aspects of space, planets and other objects we 
can't see as blind people in the sky. I have a podcast series that covers 3D 
programming for audio, and related technologies.

I am co-founder of Oseyeris, and have been working on an app so I can 
understand where the planets are, how they cycle around me in the real world, 
as astronomy and physics are something I am passionate about.

Second, I would like to invite you to test a star gazing app for the blind.

Please follow this link, and put your name on the email list. if already 
subscribed, your test flight will be sent very shortly.

I am very interested in hearing your opinions about how stars should be 
represented, though I have laid out the initial audio "feel" of space.

https://www.oseyeris.com/contacts


Have a great day y'all


A++


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