Re: upload speed very low

[Scott Granados]

Then I would go the cellular route and move your self over to wireless and drop 
the DSL.


> On Jul 10, 2017, at 10:34 AM, Rhonda Partain <rhonda.part...@att.net> wrote:
> 
> Thank you. Unfortunately AtT  doesn't offer  a faster plan where I live. 
> 
> 
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
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> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: upload speed very low
> 
> Hi Rhonda, you can’t with out QOS and I’d argue your connection is to slow to 
> take much advantage of QOS anyway.  One thing you might do is up your plan 
> depending on what DSL plan you’re on.  They may have a faster plan with more 
> upload and download capacity but with DSL theres just not that much headroom.
> 
>   I’m not sure geographically where you are but a wireless provider may 
> be a way to go.  T-Mobile and Verizon both have very good networks and 
> unlimited plans with as much as 60 megabits up and 400 down, maybe more 
> depending where they are in their update cycle.  Also depends where in the 
> world you’re located.
> 
> Hope that helps.
> 
>> On Jul 9, 2017, at 5:41 PM, Rhonda Partain <rhonda.part...@att.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, it does. But what if my router doesn't have  qos settings  how can I   
>> say what gets priority the phone or web traffic?
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroupscom] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
>> Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2017 4:27 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: upload speed very low
>> 
>> DSL is very limited in it’s upload speed assuming you’re using regular old 
>> ADSL from AT  At most you’re going to have a single megabit up or so and 
>> a few down, more likely you have 128 or 384K up which is a very small up 
>> channel.
>> 
>> QOS or quality of service doesn’t change your speed, it prioritizes what 
>> traffic uses the bandwidth that you have.  You might for example tag video 
>> and phone as most preferred because they are very time sensitive where as 
>> you might tag web traffic as less preferred because you’d rather have your 
>> page load a little more slowly if your on the phone so your call quality is 
>> preserved.  You only have what speeds you have available in your plan 
>> however.
>> 
>> Hope this helps clear things up.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jul 9, 2017, at 4:24 PM, Rhonda Partain <rhonda.part...@att.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello I  have  ATT DSL internet service  am getting very low upload 
>>> speeds
>>> 0.11  Mbps  highest I've seen is  0.30 Mbp I  was told routers have 
>>> QOS settings where you can set what  gets priority. My router does 
>>> not have  qos settings.  I  can't upgrade, no other  providers where 
>>> I live. Is there any way to help maximize  the upload speed? I work 
>>> from home  and this is affecting my ability to do my job.
>>> Thanks for any  thoughts.
>>> 
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RE: upload speed very low

[Rhonda Partain]

Thank you. Unfortunately AtT  doesn't offer  a faster plan where I live. 


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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2017 10:02 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: upload speed very low

Hi Rhonda, you can’t with out QOS and I’d argue your connection is to slow to 
take much advantage of QOS anyway.  One thing you might do is up your plan 
depending on what DSL plan you’re on.  They may have a faster plan with more 
upload and download capacity but with DSL theres just not that much headroom.

I’m not sure geographically where you are but a wireless provider may 
be a way to go.  T-Mobile and Verizon both have very good networks and 
unlimited plans with as much as 60 megabits up and 400 down, maybe more 
depending where they are in their update cycle.  Also depends where in the 
world you’re located.

Hope that helps.

> On Jul 9, 2017, at 5:41 PM, Rhonda Partain <rhonda.part...@att.net> wrote:
> 
> Yes, it does. But what if my router doesn't have  qos settings  how can I   
> say what gets priority the phone or web traffic?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroupscom] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
> Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2017 4:27 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: upload speed very low
> 
> DSL is very limited in it’s upload speed assuming you’re using regular old 
> ADSL from AT  At most you’re going to have a single megabit up or so and a 
> few down, more likely you have 128 or 384K up which is a very small up 
> channel.
> 
> QOS or quality of service doesn’t change your speed, it prioritizes what 
> traffic uses the bandwidth that you have.  You might for example tag video 
> and phone as most preferred because they are very time sensitive where as you 
> might tag web traffic as less preferred because you’d rather have your page 
> load a little more slowly if your on the phone so your call quality is 
> preserved.  You only have what speeds you have available in your plan however.
> 
> Hope this helps clear things up.
> 
> 
>> On Jul 9, 2017, at 4:24 PM, Rhonda Partain <rhonda.part...@att.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello I  have  ATT DSL internet service  am getting very low upload 
>> speeds
>> 0.11  Mbps  highest I've seen is  0.30 Mbp I  was told routers have 
>> QOS settings where you can set what  gets priority. My router does 
>> not have  qos settings.  I  can't upgrade, no other  providers where 
>> I live. Is there any way to help maximize  the upload speed? I work 
>> from home  and this is affecting my ability to do my job.
>> Thanks for any  thoughts.
>> 
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Re: upload speed very low

['Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries]

What most people have is ADSL and the A stands for Asymmetric because 
there is greater bandwidth dedicated to stuff coming to you rather than 
outbound. It's a reasonable thing because most people send a small 
request like an URL and get back megabytes of data. How fast depends on 
how much you pay and how far you are from the central office. Last I 
checked, ADSL max download speed was about 9Mbps while upload maxed out 
at 640Kbps. Depending on distance you might never be able to achieve 
those throughputs, even if you pay for top tier ADSL. Likewise, if 
you're on a lower plan they will just cap the throughput on their 
routers to ensure you don't get more than you paid for. ADSL was a bit 
of a bandaid used by the telcos until they could get something more 
competitive rolled out. It uses the same copper wire plant as plain old 
telephone service so there is only so much they can do with it.


CB

On 7/10/17 10:02 AM, Scott Granados wrote:

Hi Rhonda, you can’t with out QOS and I’d argue your connection is to slow to 
take much advantage of QOS anyway.  One thing you might do is up your plan 
depending on what DSL plan you’re on.  They may have a faster plan with more 
upload and download capacity but with DSL theres just not that much headroom.

I’m not sure geographically where you are but a wireless provider may 
be a way to go.  T-Mobile and Verizon both have very good networks and 
unlimited plans with as much as 60 megabits up and 400 down, maybe more 
depending where they are in their update cycle.  Also depends where in the 
world you’re located.

Hope that helps.


On Jul 9, 2017, at 5:41 PM, Rhonda Partain <rhonda.part...@att.net> wrote:

Yes, it does. But what if my router doesn't have  qos settings  how can I   say 
what gets priority the phone or web traffic?

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2017 4:27 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: upload speed very low

DSL is very limited in it’s upload speed assuming you’re using regular old ADSL 
from AT  At most you’re going to have a single megabit up or so and a few 
down, more likely you have 128 or 384K up which is a very small up channel.

QOS or quality of service doesn’t change your speed, it prioritizes what 
traffic uses the bandwidth that you have.  You might for example tag video and 
phone as most preferred because they are very time sensitive where as you might 
tag web traffic as less preferred because you’d rather have your page load a 
little more slowly if your on the phone so your call quality is preserved.  You 
only have what speeds you have available in your plan however.

Hope this helps clear things up.



On Jul 9, 2017, at 4:24 PM, Rhonda Partain <rhonda.part...@att.net> wrote:

Hello I  have  ATT DSL internet service  am getting very low upload
speeds
0.11  Mbps  highest I've seen is  0.30 Mbp I  was told routers have
QOS settings where you can set what  gets priority. My router does not
have  qos settings.  I  can't upgrade, no other  providers where I
live. Is there any way to help maximize  the upload speed? I work from
home  and this is affecting my ability to do my job.
Thanks for any  thoughts.

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Re: upload speed very low

[Scott Granados]

Hi Rhonda, you can’t with out QOS and I’d argue your connection is to slow to 
take much advantage of QOS anyway.  One thing you might do is up your plan 
depending on what DSL plan you’re on.  They may have a faster plan with more 
upload and download capacity but with DSL theres just not that much headroom.

I’m not sure geographically where you are but a wireless provider may 
be a way to go.  T-Mobile and Verizon both have very good networks and 
unlimited plans with as much as 60 megabits up and 400 down, maybe more 
depending where they are in their update cycle.  Also depends where in the 
world you’re located.

Hope that helps.

> On Jul 9, 2017, at 5:41 PM, Rhonda Partain <rhonda.part...@att.net> wrote:
> 
> Yes, it does. But what if my router doesn't have  qos settings  how can I   
> say what gets priority the phone or web traffic?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
> Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2017 4:27 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: upload speed very low
> 
> DSL is very limited in it’s upload speed assuming you’re using regular old 
> ADSL from AT  At most you’re going to have a single megabit up or so and a 
> few down, more likely you have 128 or 384K up which is a very small up 
> channel.
> 
> QOS or quality of service doesn’t change your speed, it prioritizes what 
> traffic uses the bandwidth that you have.  You might for example tag video 
> and phone as most preferred because they are very time sensitive where as you 
> might tag web traffic as less preferred because you’d rather have your page 
> load a little more slowly if your on the phone so your call quality is 
> preserved.  You only have what speeds you have available in your plan however.
> 
> Hope this helps clear things up.
> 
> 
>> On Jul 9, 2017, at 4:24 PM, Rhonda Partain <rhonda.part...@att.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello I  have  ATT DSL internet service  am getting very low upload 
>> speeds
>> 0.11  Mbps  highest I've seen is  0.30 Mbp I  was told routers have 
>> QOS settings where you can set what  gets priority. My router does not 
>> have  qos settings.  I  can't upgrade, no other  providers where I  
>> live. Is there any way to help maximize  the upload speed? I work from 
>> home  and this is affecting my ability to do my job.
>> Thanks for any  thoughts.
>> 
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Re: upload speed very low

[Oriol Gómez]

Hi.
DSL will be very slow no matter what.
I used to have DSL and the upload was about 40 real kbps.
QOS will not help you.

HTH.

On 7/9/17, Rhonda Partain <rhonda.part...@att.net> wrote:
> Yes, it does. But what if my router doesn't have  qos settings  how can I
> say what gets priority the phone or web traffic?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
> Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2017 4:27 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: upload speed very low
>
> DSL is very limited in it’s upload speed assuming you’re using regular old
> ADSL from AT  At most you’re going to have a single megabit up or so and
> a few down, more likely you have 128 or 384K up which is a very small up
> channel.
>
> QOS or quality of service doesn’t change your speed, it prioritizes what
> traffic uses the bandwidth that you have.  You might for example tag video
> and phone as most preferred because they are very time sensitive where as
> you might tag web traffic as less preferred because you’d rather have your
> page load a little more slowly if your on the phone so your call quality is
> preserved.  You only have what speeds you have available in your plan
> however.
>
> Hope this helps clear things up.
>
>
>> On Jul 9, 2017, at 4:24 PM, Rhonda Partain <rhonda.part...@att.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hello I  have  ATT DSL internet service  am getting very low upload
>> speeds
>> 0.11  Mbps  highest I've seen is  0.30 Mbp I  was told routers have
>> QOS settings where you can set what  gets priority. My router does not
>> have  qos settings.  I  can't upgrade, no other  providers where I
>> live. Is there any way to help maximize  the upload speed? I work from
>> home  and this is affecting my ability to do my job.
>> Thanks for any  thoughts.
>>
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RE: upload speed very low

[Rhonda Partain]

Yes, it does. But what if my router doesn't have  qos settings  how can I   say 
what gets priority the phone or web traffic?

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2017 4:27 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: upload speed very low

DSL is very limited in it’s upload speed assuming you’re using regular old ADSL 
from AT  At most you’re going to have a single megabit up or so and a few 
down, more likely you have 128 or 384K up which is a very small up channel.

QOS or quality of service doesn’t change your speed, it prioritizes what 
traffic uses the bandwidth that you have.  You might for example tag video and 
phone as most preferred because they are very time sensitive where as you might 
tag web traffic as less preferred because you’d rather have your page load a 
little more slowly if your on the phone so your call quality is preserved.  You 
only have what speeds you have available in your plan however.

Hope this helps clear things up.


> On Jul 9, 2017, at 4:24 PM, Rhonda Partain <rhonda.part...@att.net> wrote:
> 
> Hello I  have  ATT DSL internet service  am getting very low upload 
> speeds
> 0.11  Mbps  highest I've seen is  0.30 Mbp I  was told routers have 
> QOS settings where you can set what  gets priority. My router does not 
> have  qos settings.  I  can't upgrade, no other  providers where I  
> live. Is there any way to help maximize  the upload speed? I work from 
> home  and this is affecting my ability to do my job.
> Thanks for any  thoughts.
> 
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upload speed very low

[Rhonda Partain]

Hello I  have  ATT DSL internet service  am getting very low upload speeds
0.11  Mbps  highest I've seen is  0.30 Mbp I  was told routers have QOS
settings where you can set what  gets priority. My router does not have  qos
settings.  I  can't upgrade, no other  providers where I  live. Is there any
way to help maximize  the upload speed? I work from home  and this is
affecting my ability to do my job.
Thanks for any  thoughts. 

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Re: upload speed very low

[Scott Granados]

DSL is very limited in it’s upload speed assuming you’re using regular old ADSL 
from AT  At most you’re going to have a single megabit up or so and a few 
down, more likely you have 128 or 384K up which is a very small up channel.

QOS or quality of service doesn’t change your speed, it prioritizes what 
traffic uses the bandwidth that you have.  You might for example tag video and 
phone as most preferred because they are very time sensitive where as you might 
tag web traffic as less preferred because you’d rather have your page load a 
little more slowly if your on the phone so your call quality is preserved.  You 
only have what speeds you have available in your plan however.

Hope this helps clear things up.


> On Jul 9, 2017, at 4:24 PM, Rhonda Partain  wrote:
> 
> Hello I  have  ATT DSL internet service  am getting very low upload speeds
> 0.11  Mbps  highest I've seen is  0.30 Mbp I  was told routers have QOS
> settings where you can set what  gets priority. My router does not have  qos
> settings.  I  can't upgrade, no other  providers where I  live. Is there any
> way to help maximize  the upload speed? I work from home  and this is
> affecting my ability to do my job.
> Thanks for any  thoughts.
> 
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