Re: [maemo-developers] Java on the 770

2006-11-14 Thread Jesper Zuschlag
Unfortunately it doesn't seems so as the Jazelle-related code (/src/ 
vm/cpu/arm/jazelle) has been removed from the PhoneME Feature  
release. Maybe Sun could be convinced to resolve this issue with ARM  
as they always points at Sun as being the source to the non- 
disclosure policy due to some patent issue.


I find it completely ridiculous to have an undocumented instruction  
set on a generally available CPU, which I have told ARM at any given  
occasion. However, they haven't really been ready to see it from that  
point of view.


 /Jesper

On 14. Nov 2006, at 02:50, Andrew Barr wrote:


On Monday 13 November 2006 20:45, Victor Toni wrote:
Now that Java will be put under the GPL is there any plan (from  
Nokia)

to integrate it into the firmware?
People would be glad even without the proprietary Jazelle extensions.


Speaking of which, is this recent announcement any reason that we  
might
finally get details on those? Or is ARM Ltd. going to continue to  
be asinine

(IMHO) on that?


And it would open the 770 to many more applications.

Kindest regards,
Victor
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Re: [maemo-developers] Re: [maemo-announce] Maemo 2.1 Available

2006-11-14 Thread Luca Donaggio
2006/11/14, Andrew Flegg [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On 11/14/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After the official maintenance update of the Internet Tablet OS 2006
 edition last week, the final maemo 2.1 release is also now available. Some highlights of this release include: * Bug fixes and other enhancements * Address book APIs are now available for application
 development * Many source code packages added since 2.0 * Minimal rootstraps are now also available[snip] Debian repo (/etc/apt/sources.list)
 deb http://repository.maemo.org/ scirocco free non-free deb-src http://repository.maemo.org/ scirocco free non-fre
Should `apt-get dist-upgrade' work from Mistral to Scirocco in theSDK? Or is it a case of downloading everything again?Cheers,Andrew--Andrew Flegg -- mailto:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]|http://www.bleb.org/___maemo-developers mailing listmaemo-developers@maemo.org
https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developersI've just finished dist-upgrading to scirocco and it seems to work just fine!
Luca Donaggio
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[maemo-developers] Maemo 2.1 Available

2006-11-14 Thread Jukka-Pekka.Iivonen
Title: Maemo 2.1 Available






Hi all,


After the official maintenance update of the Internet Tablet OS 2006 edition

last week, the final maemo 2.1 release is also now available.


Some highlights of this release include:

 * Bug fixes and other enhancements

 * Address book APIs are now available for application development

 * Many source code packages added since 2.0

 * Minimal rootstraps are now also available

 

 Developer RootFS

 http://maemo.org/downloads/d1.php


 Nokia Binaries

 http://maemo.org/downloads/d2.php


 SDK rootstrap (and Installer)

 http://repository.maemo.org/stable/2.1/


 SDK package reference

 http://repository.maemo.org/stable/2.1/maemo-packages--2.1.html


 Debian repo (/etc/apt/sources.list)

 deb http://repository.maemo.org/ scirocco free non-free

 deb-src http://repository.maemo.org/ scirocco free non-fre


The maemo.org website will be updated later today. If you find bugs and

issues with maemo 2.1, just file them to https://maemo.org/bugzilla/ 

and we will try to do our best to fix them. Thanks in advance!


A big thanks also to everyone who made maemo 2.1 possible and now let's

all enjoy and get some real hacking on maemo done.


Regards,

J-P



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[maemo-developers] Re: [maemo-announce] Maemo 2.1 Available

2006-11-14 Thread Andrew Flegg

On 11/14/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


After the official maintenance update of the Internet Tablet OS 2006
edition last week, the final maemo 2.1 release is also now available.

Some highlights of this release include:
* Bug fixes and other enhancements
* Address book APIs are now available for application
  development
* Many source code packages added since 2.0
* Minimal rootstraps are now also available


[snip]


Debian repo (/etc/apt/sources.list)
deb http://repository.maemo.org/ scirocco free non-free
deb-src http://repository.maemo.org/ scirocco free non-fre


Should `apt-get dist-upgrade' work from Mistral to Scirocco in the
SDK? Or is it a case of downloading everything again?

Cheers,

Andrew

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[maemo-developers] Re: [maemo-announce] Maemo 2.1 Available

2006-11-14 Thread Sebastian Spaeth

Luca Donaggio wrote:

  After the official maintenance update of the Internet Tablet OS 2006
  edition last week, the final maemo 2.1 release is also now available.



Should `apt-get dist-upgrade' work from Mistral to Scirocco in the
SDK? Or is it a case of downloading everything again?


I've just finished dist-upgrading to scirocco and it seems to work just 
fine!


Just to be safe... Is this maemo release intended for the scratchbox 
environment only, or is it safe to use scirocco repositories directly on 
the 770? (if you are willing to upgrade)


Sebastian

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Re: [maemo-developers] Maemo 2.1 Available

2006-11-14 Thread Tran Van Hoang
On Tue, 2006-11-14 at 13:03 +0100, ext Sebastian Spaeth wrote:
 Luca Donaggio wrote:
After the official maintenance update of the Internet Tablet OS 2006
edition last week, the final maemo 2.1 release is also now available.
 
  Should `apt-get dist-upgrade' work from Mistral to Scirocco in the
  SDK? Or is it a case of downloading everything again?
 
  I've just finished dist-upgrading to scirocco and it seems to work just 
  fine!
 
 Just to be safe... Is this maemo release intended for the scratchbox 
 environment only, 
Officially, maemo releases are intended to be used inside scratchbox. 

 or is it safe to use scirocco repositories directly on 
 the 770? (if you are willing to upgrade)
 
However, we tried to make it, at least, not crash the device if some one
accidentally has scirocco repo on device's sources.list.

Basically, for maemo2.1, all the packages that are on device have the
same versions as in scirocco *EXCEPT* for maemo-launcher which needed
some hacks for qemu armel. So ... if you have scirocco repo on the
device, doing an apt-get update will upgrade *only* maemo-launcher. The
result is it will be updated just fine :), but device will reboot once 

If you try to install some other packages, rather than just doing an
apt-get update, then it's not guaranteed that it will be safe. 

 Sebastian
Best regards
TranVan Hoang,

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Re: [maemo-developers] Re: [maemo-announce] Maemo 2.1 Available

2006-11-14 Thread Tran Van Hoang
On Tue, 2006-11-14 at 09:43 +, ext Andrew Flegg wrote:
 On 11/14/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Debian repo (/etc/apt/sources.list)
  deb http://repository.maemo.org/ scirocco free non-free
  deb-src http://repository.maemo.org/ scirocco free non-fre
 
 Should `apt-get dist-upgrade' work from Mistral to Scirocco in the
 SDK? Or is it a case of downloading everything again?
 
Hi,

It should work with
apt-get dist-upgrade -f
or
apt-get upgrade

A few packages will be kept back since they actually have greater
versions in 2.0 than 2.1. Pls see the release notes for further details
http://repository.maemo.org/stable/2.1/Maemo_Dev_Platform_v2.1_relnotes.txt

In short, there should be no need to download the new rootstraps

Best regards,
TranVan Hoang,


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Re: [maemo-developers] Please include osso-media.server ogg probs (was: Unresolved issues (Week 45))

2006-11-14 Thread Tommi Komulainen
On Mon, 2006-11-13 at 15:33 +0100, ext Sebastian Spaeth wrote:
 Hi Tommi,
 I'd like to include Ogg support via gstreamer plugin does not work as 
 documented. (see my thread summary of my ogg adventures from last 
 week). The problem is that if you follow the installation/configuration 
 instructions from the maemo.org website 
 (http://maemo.org/platform/docs/multimedia/getting_started.html), 
 playing ogg files will just result in a 100% CPU usage freeze. Thanks

I thought Stefan already replied to the points you had. Did I miss
somehing?

Also note I am not including threads that are already actively discussed
as it wouldn't be really adding anything to it.


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[maemo-developers] Bluetooth headset? (was: Unresolved issues (Week 45))

2006-11-14 Thread Tommi Komulainen
On Mon, 2006-11-13 at 09:50 -0800, ext George Farris wrote:
 On Mon, 2006-13-11 at 11:47 +0200, Tommi Komulainen wrote:
  Here is a list of issues raised on this list I think have not been
  concluded so far, in no particular order. The easiest way to get off the
  list is to provide answers, but you can also try convincing me other
  ways.
 
 Please also include working Bluetooth headset support or lack there of.
 http://maemo.org/maemowiki/BluetoothHeadset

Please try to phrase it as a question, the more specific the better (I
don't really have any clue about Bluetooth and related issues.) To me it
seems somewhat like an advertisement for a howto or something, which I
don't believe is what you mean.


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RE: [maemo-developers] maemo weekly news anyone?

2006-11-14 Thread Brian Waite
Hi all, 
I am a new owner of a Nokia 770. Reading the archives I saw there was a desire 
for a Summary Maemo-traffic post on a periodic basis. I would be willing to 
try to take up this charge. 

For some background, I have been involved in Linux embedded development for a 
long time now and currently am the active manintainer of the Kurobox 
Developers Community http://www.kurobox.com. My first non-professional 
embedded Linux device was the Adenga VR3 http://www.softfield.com/vr3.html 
circa 2002. Since then I stayed away from the Linux PDA world and stuck to 
applicances, ie the Kurobox. The 770 seems like a logical intersection of the 
PDA and applicance and I am absolutely hooked on its functionality.

If anyone else was taking this up already I'll happily step back, but the 
offer stands.

Thanks
Brian

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Re: [maemo-developers] Bluetooth headset? (was: Unresolved issues (Week 45))

2006-11-14 Thread George Farris
On Tue, 2006-14-11 at 18:42 +0200, Tommi Komulainen wrote:
 On Mon, 2006-11-13 at 09:50 -0800, ext George Farris wrote:
  On Mon, 2006-13-11 at 11:47 +0200, Tommi Komulainen wrote:
   Here is a list of issues raised on this list I think have not been
   concluded so far, in no particular order. The easiest way to get off the
   list is to provide answers, but you can also try convincing me other
   ways.
  
  Please also include working Bluetooth headset support or lack there of.
  http://maemo.org/maemowiki/BluetoothHeadset
 
 Please try to phrase it as a question, the more specific the better (I
 don't really have any clue about Bluetooth and related issues.) To me it
 seems somewhat like an advertisement for a howto or something, which I
 don't believe is what you mean.
 
 

Well from the web page in the link:

Note: It appears that, due to limitations in Nokia's current Bluetooth
driver on the 770, you can not actually use a bluetooth headset.
Everything will appear to work, except that you won't get any audio out:
[WWW]http://maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-developers/2005-December/002191.html

Please provide a working driver for bluetooth audio, both in and out.


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[maemo-developers] Livejournal client for 770

2006-11-14 Thread Andrew Barr
Is anyone aware of a Livejournal client for Maemo, or, failing that, a small 
and simple GTK+ client that could be ported?

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RE: [maemo-developers] maemo weekly news anyone?

2006-11-14 Thread Ian
Ola,
There is a page here:
http://www.id.debian.org/News/weekly/contributing.en.html
which outlines the process of contributing to the effort in debian. Maybe 
something similar on
garage wiki or integrated into Midgaard could help MWN (Meamo Weekly News) get 
going?
[]'s
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[maemo-developers] VFS and gnome-vfs, the unequal brothers

2006-11-14 Thread Danny Milosavljevic
Hi,

So I'm feeling restless again...

I might be biased because I don't really do GNOME application stuff, but...

My complaint really boils down to namespace unification. It
saddens me to see that when one uses gnome-vfs API one sees files with
*different names* than when one uses UNIX VFS, and one sees _more_ files
using gnome-vfs than using UNIX VFS (because the Flash is accessed using a
gnome-vfs module instead of a FUSE module?).

Probably I'm so rooted in UNIX traditional filesystem access (you know,
mountpoints, uniform resource access, uniform naming, ...), but I just
don't see what advantages that kind of confusion has.

Of course we are talking pie-in-the-sky here and
I could very well just nag GNOME with it, I guess :)

cheers,
  Danny

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Re: [maemo-developers] xskat and maemo fonts

2006-11-14 Thread Hans J. Koch
Am Dienstag, 14. November 2006 20:42 schrieb Holger:
 Hi Hans,

 i would very like to use xskat on my Nokia 770 too.
 It is my favorit game.
 Can you tell me where can i get xskat?

I used the binary from Debian unstable xskat package. Download the 
package for ARM platform. A Debian .deb is in fact a tar archive. 
Untar it, all you need is the binary called xskat. Copy it to your 
770.

 Or how can i make it work.
 I copied on my 770 and it dosnĀ“t work.
 I always get a failure xskat  not found.

I started it from xterm. If you've got it in your home directory or 
some other non-standard place, you need to give the full path.

Probably, you'll get an error that xskat doesn't find a suitable font. 
In that case, get the xlsfont binary from the xlsfont Debian 
package, and run it on your 770. It will print a list of fonts 
available on your 770. Choose one and call xskat with the 
option -font like this:

xskat -font name_of_your_font

That should work. See the xskat manpage for details.

Cheers,
Hans

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[maemo-developers] Re: Please include osso-media.server ogg probs

2006-11-14 Thread Sebastian Spaeth

Tommi Komulainen wrote:
I'd like to include Ogg support via gstreamer plugin does not work as 
documented. The problem is that if you follow the installation/configuration 
instructions from the maemo.org website 
(http://maemo.org/platform/docs/multimedia/getting_started.html), 
playing ogg files will just result in a 100% CPU usage freeze. Thanks


I thought Stefan already replied to the points you had. Did I miss
somehing?


Stefan explained some issues to help me to debug the thing, yes. However 
the instructions on the maemo website (not wiki) are still wrong and 
lead to the 100% freeze, nobody ever answered with respect to this. 
(pluss osso-media-server does not seem to use gconf keys as described 
there). But I'll just shut up and just mplayer in the future. Thanks for 
considering this.



Also note I am not including threads that are already actively discussed
as it wouldn't be really adding anything to it.


OK, that's a fair policy. Although this issue is not as actively 
discussed as I'd like it to be.. I'll shut up on this one.


Spaetz

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