Re: Howto debug a home applet on the device?
Massimo Mund wrote: Hello, I wrote a small home applet and it runs fine in the scratchbox. But it doesn't run on the device. So, it would be great to get the reason for this. In scratchbox, i can see what the terminal returns but on the device there isn't that kind of terminal. Is there a way to get an error log or something similar? You can run a terminal on the device. Look for osso-xterm. David ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
RE: maemo.org community leadership - the maemo.org Community Council
hi, you are completely wrong. I always and ever speak for myself. he wants to speak for them all NO NO NO (see above) There is a serious problem at maemo, as some guys from maemo don't need any community, any open discussion, any collaboration. What they need is power. Yesterday one guy from maemo said communities need moderators . Open free source software developers don't need moderators. What I develop and test is multitouch solutions, gesture recognition, new user-computer interfaces and the like. There is no place at maemo for such work, solutions. I tried to subscribe to developers section at Maemo 3 times and 3 times server generated nothing what could let me in. So I gave up, still working at some other places. I don't need moderators from maemo to control what I should work on. Managing Multimedia Magazines at Google I don't need third party moderators as it's me who can hold a position of a moderator. Fight for leadership at Maemo is what kills Maemo and any idea of Nokia to have Maemo to work for the benefit of Nokia. Get real man, there are hundreds of hot places globe-wide, you an develop your ideas, projects, solutions in nice association, no moderators, full democracy and you an still say NO for Maemo Community Council not hurting anyone. Darius http://groups.google.com/group/metallica4you/web/magazines?hl=en --- On Fri, 13/6/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: maemo.org community leadership - the maemo.org Community Council To: maemo-developers@maemo.org Date: Friday, 13 June, 2008, 9:18 PM Any activities by communities financed, sponsored, donated by Nokia or other corporations, must follow the basic goal of the corporation. In general yes, and here the community adds value to Nokia. So there should be no problem unless this is all simply a rant against Nokia/commercial use of Linux, and in fact you had no intention of giving any useful input to the questions that were posed? This does in fact appear to be a rant from Darius Jack. I have not found any references to anything he has contributed to any open source community, yet he wants to speak for them all. The relationship between commercial entities and the open source community has been explained to him more than once, but he does not care to understand. Time to flip the bozo bit. Ed Okerson ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: maemo.org community leadership - the maemo.org Community Council
I think you will find that quarterly elections are too frequent. Everyone will burn out on voting. Yearly or by halves. -- Allen Brown http://brown.armoredpenguin.com/~abrown Hey guys, So Maemo, as we all feel has enormous potential and we all feel investment in making things work out for the best. So instead of each taking a side, why not find a better solution than what people are envisioning from a position of separation. Because obviously there are pros and cons to both scenarios. Direction given by passionate members can help steer things in the right direction or stifle it (a la gimp). And sometimes mob rule is horrible because there is no room to innovate outside people's expectations. So obviously you are both right here. Please don't bicker on the list, it brings the conversation lower and turns a thread into a flame. I try to read all of these mails and I prefer when things are in the positive. That's what keeps me motivated and everyone motivated to contribute. Keeping up morale is a big deal, especially in the floss world. What about a democratically elected council that is renewed every quarter? Or using a flex/flow organizational model like holacracy as I has put forth for recommendation? I think roles are very important, and they keep people focused and in the right kind of relationship with each other. I like the idea of a dynamic social network of passionate contributors, how can we create that? It's important to think about the picture of the future because then we can all contribute to that picture. So why not paint the most incredible thing we can envision and find out how to get there? That's how scenario planners and futurists work with corporations. And I think we can all recognize great products that come out of great teams, and usually those teams are formed by a common context and vision. Can't we all just get along? ;) -Paul On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 12:07 PM, Darius Jack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi, you are completely wrong. I always and ever speak for myself. he wants to speak for them all NO NO NO (see above) There is a serious problem at maemo, as some guys from maemo don't need any community, any open discussion, any collaboration. What they need is power. Yesterday one guy from maemo said communities need moderators . Open free source software developers don't need moderators. What I develop and test is multitouch solutions, gesture recognition, new user-computer interfaces and the like. There is no place at maemo for such work, solutions. I tried to subscribe to developers section at Maemo 3 times and 3 times server generated nothing what could let me in. So I gave up, still working at some other places. I don't need moderators from maemo to control what I should work on. Managing Multimedia Magazines at Google I don't need third party moderators as it's me who can hold a position of a moderator. Fight for leadership at Maemo is what kills Maemo and any idea of Nokia to have Maemo to work for the benefit of Nokia. Get real man, there are hundreds of hot places globe-wide, you an develop your ideas, projects, solutions in nice association, no moderators, full democracy and you an still say NO for Maemo Community Council not hurting anyone. Darius http://groups.google.com/group/metallica4you/web/magazines?hl=en --- On Fri, 13/6/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: maemo.org community leadership - the maemo.org Community Council To: maemo-developers@maemo.org Date: Friday, 13 June, 2008, 9:18 PM Any activities by communities financed, sponsored, donated by Nokia or other corporations, must follow the basic goal of the corporation. In general yes, and here the community adds value to Nokia. So there should be no problem unless this is all simply a rant against Nokia/commercial use of Linux, and in fact you had no intention of giving any useful input to the questions that were posed? This does in fact appear to be a rant from Darius Jack. I have not found any references to anything he has contributed to any open source community, yet he wants to speak for them all. The relationship between commercial entities and the open source community has been explained to him more than once, but he does not care to understand. Time to flip the bozo bit. Ed Okerson ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org
wpa_supplicant and cx3110x
Hello, I am using an N800 running Angstrom[0] booting off of an SD card, using an initfs modified to multiboot as is documented on the wiki[1]. I am having some trouble getting wpa_supplicant to authenticate on my WPA-EAP (PEAP-MSCHAPv2/TKIP) home network. This works fine in the Internet Tablet OS provided power management is turned off (something is apparently wrong with 802.11 PSM on my AP). It appears to be off by default when the tablet is booted into Angstrom (/sys/devices/platform/wlan-omap/psm is '0'). The EAP auth seems to work ok (eap_state in 'wpa_cli stat' is SUCCESS) but the crypto gets hung up at 4WAY_HANDSHAKE and times out. I have observed this on my own home network and at least one other similar network at my school. I am using wpa_supplicant 0.6.3 linked with openssl (also tested 0.5.5 linked with gnutls) and the 'wext' driver. The cx3110x driver is the one shipped in the initfs for the latest official Nokia firmware. I can provide packet captures and similar debugging info, perhaps the maintainer of the driver can help me out with this? The last message I saw concerning this was from late 2007, talking about running wpa_supplicant under ITOS and this was not yet supported as cx3110x did not yet support WE-18 or later. This appears to no longer be the case, as /proc/net/wireless indicates WE-22 and no version mismatch messages are printed by iwconfig. Also, the output of 'iwlist wlan0 scan' has WPA info, which indicates to me that WPA via Wireless Extensions _should_ work. Thanks for any help. [0] http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/ [1] http://maemo.org/community/wiki/HowTo_EASILY_Boot_From_MMC_card/ -- Andrew Barr [EMAIL PROTECTED] (614) 581-3537 (Verizon Wireless) ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: wpa_supplicant and cx3110x
On Sunday 15 June 2008, Andrew Barr wrote: I am using an N800 running Angstrom[0] booting off of an SD card, using an initfs modified to multiboot as is documented on the wiki[1]. I am having some trouble getting wpa_supplicant to authenticate on my WPA-EAP (PEAP-MSCHAPv2/TKIP) home network. This works fine in the Internet Tablet OS provided power management is turned off (something is apparently wrong with 802.11 PSM on my AP). It appears to be off by default when the tablet is booted into Angstrom (/sys/devices/platform/wlan-omap/psm is '0'). The EAP auth seems to work ok (eap_state in 'wpa_cli stat' is SUCCESS) but the crypto gets hung up at 4WAY_HANDSHAKE and times out. I have observed this on my own home network and at least one other similar network at my school. I am using wpa_supplicant 0.6.3 linked with openssl (also tested 0.5.5 linked with gnutls) and the 'wext' driver. The cx3110x driver is the one shipped in the initfs for the latest official Nokia firmware. I can provide packet captures and similar debugging info, perhaps the maintainer of the driver can help me out with this? The last message I saw concerning this was from late 2007, talking about running wpa_supplicant under ITOS and this was not yet supported as cx3110x did not yet support WE-18 or later. This appears to no longer be the case, as /proc/net/wireless indicates WE-22 and no version mismatch messages are printed by iwconfig. Also, the output of 'iwlist wlan0 scan' has WPA info, which indicates to me that WPA via Wireless Extensions _should_ work. Thanks for any help. [0] http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/ [1] http://maemo.org/community/wiki/HowTo_EASILY_Boot_From_MMC_card/ IIRC the recommended way to get cx3110x support is to use cx3110x-devel mailing list: https://garage.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/cx3110x-devel BTW, there is a set of community enhancements and patches for cx3110x driver (Nokia 770 version) collected together by Rodrigo Vivi and posted here: https://garage.maemo.org/pipermail/cx3110x-devel/2008-April/38.html -- Best regards, Siarhei Siamashka ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
