Re: Uploading to Fremantle extras via Extras Assistant
Hi, Still no luck with this.. and this is blocking me. Neils? Any thoughts? -- anidel Sent from London, Eng, United Kingdom 2009/10/9 Aniello Del Sorbo ani...@gmail.com: I am trying to upload a new version of Xournal in order to promote it to Testing, but the extras assistant keeps saying my changes is incorrect. I haven't changed anything and was working fine for fremantle-beta, do I have to do something? -- -- anidel Sent from London, Eng, United Kingdom ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Removing a package from extras-devel: glom-sqlite
On Tue, October 20, 2009 11:14, Murray Cumming wrote: How can I remove a package from extras-devel? I'd like to remove the glom-sqlite package because we now have sqlite support (and PostgreSQL) support in our main glom package in extras-devel. I have removed the packages from the repository. It can take some time for this to be visible. -- murr...@murrayc.com www.murrayc.com www.openismus.com -- Niels Breet maemo.org webmaster ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Uploading to Fremantle extras via Extras Assistant
Hi, The most recent changes files you uploaded are all 0 bytes in size. That doesn't seem to happen for other people. I just tested an upload and it worked fine for me. Are you really sure the problem isn't at your end? - Niels On Tue, October 20, 2009 11:27, Aniello Del Sorbo wrote: Hi, Still no luck with this.. and this is blocking me. Neils? Any thoughts? -- anidel Sent from London, Eng, United Kingdom 2009/10/9 Aniello Del Sorbo ani...@gmail.com: I am trying to upload a new version of Xournal in order to promote it to Testing, but the extras assistant keeps saying my changes is incorrect. I haven't changed anything and was working fine for fremantle-beta, do I have to do something? -- -- anidel Sent from London, Eng, United Kingdom ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: lost in extras-testing as a donkey in the mist
Hey, On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 3:44 PM, Niels Breet ni...@maemo.org wrote: On Mon, October 19, 2009 16:12, Attila Csipa wrote: Foreword: I'm an extras-testing newbie, I went through http://wiki.maemo.org/Extras-testing and hoped to push a simple script (called 'mirror') to regular users (=extras). I did extras(-devel) stuff for Diablo, but had a few things that oops-ed me here, so I'd like some clarifications so I can leave my current 'I are baboon' state. a) what are the relations of extras-testing to nokia-applications repositories ? My script depends on gstreamer0.10-plugins-good-extra which is there, and lcuk pointed out that it is listed to be missing dependencies ( http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_nokia-applicat ions_explicit_armel/gstreamer0.10-plugins-good-extra/0.10.15-git180-0maem o8+0m5/ ). To add my confusion there are even packages there that have 'missing dependencies' that depend purely on libc6 ( http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_nokia-applicati ons_explicit_armel/libspeex1/1.2~rc1-1maemo7+0m5/ ). So who is depending on what here and who is supposed to provide/promote what ? Oops, this was a configuration mistake on my part. I didn't setup the links between the repositories for nokia-applications and device root filesystem. It should look a lot better for you now? b) if there were failed dependencies, how did my upload/promotion to extras-testing go through ? Or does that 'missing' mean something else ? This change was made last week, so that is when the issue was introduced. c) there is no 'add application' link on https://maemo.org/downloads/Maemo5/ and I can't select Maemo5 as the OS if try to add it from 'another' page that has that link. Are apps going to be added automatically by the promotion process, or do I need to apply/do something to get that option ? Applications which manage to reach Extras through the QA testing process automatically get an entrance in Maemo5 Downloads. d) Is there a coordinated way of getting testers for karma to promote to extras ? I made an announcement thread on talk, but wasn't quite clear about whether the once-planned tester group exists, do they get notified automatically, or do I need to do something extra to request evaluation, the wiki didn't quite make that clear for me. This is where we need to work on. We have the basic technical framework in place, now the human part needs to be addressed. Testing of applications in the queue needs to be encouraged more. Maybe we can organize application test meetings, where a group of people come in and help testing applications. Liked the idea, I think I gonna give a try to a testing marathon :). Best regards, -- Valério Valério Maemo Community Council Chair http://www.valeriovalerio.org Another problem we need to address is prevent that applications stay in the queue for too long without testing. I've proposed to create a group of well known and knowledgeable community members who can make an executive decision based on a strict list of technical requirements for a package. If X amount of them agree the app meets the criteria, promotion is unlocked for the developer. I would really like someone else to take up organizing the human part, so I can concentrate on the technical implementation of this all. There are only so many hours in a day :) I'm sorry if this stuff has been addressed before, if it was, it slipped under my radar and my google skills failed me. Hints, pointers welcome. Regards, Attila -- Niels Breet maemo.org webmaster ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Uploading to Fremantle extras via Extras Assistant
0 bytes?!?!? Woah! That is it then.. my firefox browser is acting weirdly on me then. It didn't attach changes files to my e-mail and thus it didn't upload them either to the assistant. I suppose it's an issue with Firefox 3.5 and Ubuntu 9.10 beta then... Thank you for checking it Neils! I'll try with Chrome. -- anidel Sent from London, Eng, United Kingdom 2009/10/20 Niels Breet ni...@maemo.org: Hi, The most recent changes files you uploaded are all 0 bytes in size. That doesn't seem to happen for other people. I just tested an upload and it worked fine for me. Are you really sure the problem isn't at your end? - Niels On Tue, October 20, 2009 11:27, Aniello Del Sorbo wrote: Hi, Still no luck with this.. and this is blocking me. Neils? Any thoughts? -- anidel Sent from London, Eng, United Kingdom 2009/10/9 Aniello Del Sorbo ani...@gmail.com: I am trying to upload a new version of Xournal in order to promote it to Testing, but the extras assistant keeps saying my changes is incorrect. I haven't changed anything and was working fine for fremantle-beta, do I have to do something? -- -- anidel Sent from London, Eng, United Kingdom ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Spam in comments to news section of garage
Sorry, but I could not find how to remove spam from my news section The comment is spam, and I can remove my entry, but can not find how to remove the comment. https://garage.maemo.org/forum/forum.php?thread_id=forum_id=3931 Detlef ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Spam in comments to news section of garage
Hello, ds wrote: Sorry, but I could not find how to remove spam from my news section The comment is spam, and I can remove my entry, but can not find how to remove the comment. https://garage.maemo.org/forum/forum.php?thread_id=forum_id=3931 There is no way to remove or edit comments in the current UI. I can remove it from the database. I will think about how to add a Delete comment feature for project admins. Detlef Cheers, ferenc -- maemo.org sysadmin, developer email: fer...@maemo.org ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Fremantle Hildon desktop components available from maemo.gitorious.org
From: Kimmo Hämäläinen kimmo.hamalai...@nokia.com Hi, Hildon-desktop, hildon-home, hildon-status-menu, libhildondesktop, libclutter are now developed in open repository: http://maemo.gitorious.org/fremantle-hildon-desktop Now you can start making your own modified Fremantle desktop :) There is any kind of mailing list about that (I know that gitorious doesn't provide it). I have just downloaded it and I have just realized that it is still using the old name of Cally (cail), that was changed because other company [1] was a lot of products using the cail name. This means that the people couldn't compile it, as there isn't any cail library. I would like to create a patch to solve that (it is just to change the library name), where I should send the patch? BR [1] http://www.cail.com/ [2] git clone git://git.clutter-project.org/cally === API (apinhe...@igalia.com) ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: How to switch an app to portrait mode (Qt)? Xrandr?
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 4:01 PM, Jesus Sanchez-Palencia jesus.palen...@openbossa.org wrote: Please let us know if it worked! I've tried that last week but had no success at all. I sort of lost the ambition after seeing how well this works: http://wiki.maemo.org/Rotation -- Ville M. Vainio http://tinyurl.com/vainio ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Fremantle Hildon desktop components available from maemo.gitorious.org
On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 14:28 +0200, ext Piñeiro wrote: From: Kimmo Hämäläinen kimmo.hamalai...@nokia.com Hi, Hildon-desktop, hildon-home, hildon-status-menu, libhildondesktop, libclutter are now developed in open repository: http://maemo.gitorious.org/fremantle-hildon-desktop Now you can start making your own modified Fremantle desktop :) There is any kind of mailing list about that (I know that gitorious doesn't provide it). I have just downloaded it and I have just realized that it is still using the old name of Cally (cail), that was changed because other company [1] was a lot of products using the cail name. This means that the people couldn't compile it, as there isn't any cail library. I would like to create a patch to solve that (it is just to change the library name), where I should send the patch? I can add you as committer if you have account in gitorious and you can then commit it yourself. -Kimmo BR [1] http://www.cail.com/ [2] git clone git://git.clutter-project.org/cally === API (apinhe...@igalia.com) ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Fremantle Hildon desktop components available from maemo.gitorious.org
From: Kimmo Hämäläinen kimmo.hamalai...@nokia.com This means that the people couldn't compile it, as there isn't any cail library. Of course, I mean using dpkg-buildpackage. Using autogen.sh compile with the a11y support is configurable. I would like to create a patch to solve that (it is just to change the library name), where I should send the patch? I can add you as committer if you have account in gitorious and you can then commit it yourself. Yes, I have a account in gitorious, I'm right now a committer in hildon widgets [1] My account is apinhe...@igalia.com Thanks [1] http://maemo.gitorious.org/hildon/hildon === API (apinhe...@igalia.com) ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Qt finger scrolling in Diablo?
Hi Ville we don't have finger scroll in Diablo. BTW we can backport it easily. But first some fixes are needed. Br, Antonio On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Ville M. Vainio vivai...@gmail.com wrote: I'm aware of this wiki page: http://wiki.maemo.org/Qt/Finger_Scrolling However, it seems this is not applicable for Diablo, I've verified by 1) testing it and 2) grepping the sources. So, how is one supposed to get kinetic scrolling in Diablo Qt? -- Ville M. Vainio http://tinyurl.com/vainio ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers -- Joan Crawfordhttp://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/j/joan_crawford.html - I, Joan Crawford, I believe in the dollar. Everything I earn, I spend. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Call for testers with N900 for vncviewer
Am Dienstag, den 20.10.2009, 14:40 +0200 schrieb Cornelius Hald: ds wrote: I have a first report of vncviewer working on N900. It is in fremantle extras-testing and should be quite save, as there are only minor changes to the diablo and chinokk version which is availible since 2007-12-02 without major problems. I would be glad, if there were some more testers. Perhaps we get it into extras without me having a N900:-) Thanks a lot Detlef http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_extras-testing_free_armel/vncviewer/0.6.3-fremantle1 Hi Detlef, do you have plans to adopt the UI to the new Fremantle style? I installed it yesterday, but couldn´t really test it because of troubles with my vnc server. I noticed that the UI is basically unchanged which makes it feel a bit out of place on the N900. I have no feeling for N900 at the moment. But yes, I have some feature requests left on garage, and as there is not too much UI it should not be a big deal:-) But first I want to have it running an the N900. Anyways, thanks for the port! Once my setup is working again, I´ll give it another try. Cheers! Conny ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Qt finger scrolling in Diablo?
On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 4:01 PM, Andrew Olmsted andrew.olms...@gmail.com wrote: You have to compile the 4.5-diablo branch from http://gitorious.org/+qt-maemo-developers/qt/qt-maemo with the mer-fingerscroll branch merged in. This will result in libraries being built with finger scrolling enabled. So far there haven't been any official or community-port versions with this enabled by default, but hopefully that will change soon. Ok, thanks. I added the information to the Wiki page. Hopefully this will land in extras soon - in the meantime, I'll add a dirty mouseevent hack to get halfway finger scrolling behavior to tide my app over the rough patch :-). -- Ville M. Vainio http://tinyurl.com/vainio ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Wiki Action Group: first task
On Oct 20, 2009, at 7:58 AM, Dave Neary wrote: Ryan Abel wrote: On Oct 19, 2009, at 12:05 PM, Dave Neary wrote: Thomas Waelti wrote: (PS: There is also http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Generalantilles/Sandbox/ Wiki_Action_Group which comes up earlier in searches...) Deleted. Just as a general rule, it is VERY bad form to delete content from a user's sandbox without discussing it with them first. ;) Surely the quality of search results on maemo.org and wiki.maemo.org trumps this concern, no? Only to an extent, start with a message on a user's discussion page (or email, if you wish) then move from there the vast majority of people should be more than happy to cooperate, but it's still a good idea to give them a heads up. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Extras-testing Marathon
Hey, FYI: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=33164 Best regards, -- Valério Valério Maemo Community Council Chair http://www.valeriovalerio.org ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
RE: Optification of dev libraries
Marius, Well, I agree dev packages are not really the target of a device. And as a dev I would probably feel comfortable moving things around (if they wanted to). I just noticed that about 75% of the .h files were optified and the rest weren't, and wanted to bring it up. Not really a huge issue. As a policy I've been optifing all the files it creates. Dev files actually would be a good canidate imho for the /opt folder since they aren't accesses often and can be large. Adding some more command line options might be useful. Nathan. ext Nathan Anderson nat...@andersonsplace.net writes: I noticed when I ran optification of a dev library is optified about 75% of the c/c++ .h files. I would think for consistancy sake maybe we should either optify all of them or none of them. Hmm, I think -dev libraries are not the primary target of optification right now. Would it be acceptable to have 'official' instructions (or a script) for moving all of /usr to the eMMC? I think this is preferable to using optified packages and people who want to develop on the device are probably willing and able to follow those instructions. Yes, No? But if we optify a -dev package, we should probably tune the heuristic. Many -dev packages install into /usr/include/name/ where name is close to but not exactly the same as the package name. Right now, maemo-optify only moves whole directories if they are named exactly like the package. We could improve this heuristic carefully, or add some command line options or a control file for maemo-optify. I think the latter would be more useful. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Optification of dev libraries
can't we just optify /usr/include and /usr/lib ? On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 3:48 PM, Nathan Anderson nat...@andersonsplace.netwrote: Marius, Well, I agree dev packages are not really the target of a device. And as a dev I would probably feel comfortable moving things around (if they wanted to). I just noticed that about 75% of the .h files were optified and the rest weren't, and wanted to bring it up. Not really a huge issue. As a policy I've been optifing all the files it creates. Dev files actually would be a good canidate imho for the /opt folder since they aren't accesses often and can be large. Adding some more command line options might be useful. Nathan. ext Nathan Anderson nat...@andersonsplace.net writes: I noticed when I ran optification of a dev library is optified about 75% of the c/c++ .h files. I would think for consistancy sake maybe we should either optify all of them or none of them. Hmm, I think -dev libraries are not the primary target of optification right now. Would it be acceptable to have 'official' instructions (or a script) for moving all of /usr to the eMMC? I think this is preferable to using optified packages and people who want to develop on the device are probably willing and able to follow those instructions. Yes, No? But if we optify a -dev package, we should probably tune the heuristic. Many -dev packages install into /usr/include/name/ where name is close to but not exactly the same as the package name. Right now, maemo-optify only moves whole directories if they are named exactly like the package. We could improve this heuristic carefully, or add some command line options or a control file for maemo-optify. I think the latter would be more useful. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Call for testers with N900 for vncviewer
Am Dienstag, den 20.10.2009, 20:08 +0200 schrieb Cornelius Hald: On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 15:01 +0200, ds wrote: I have no feeling for N900 at the moment. But yes, I have some feature requests left on garage, and as there is not too much UI it should not be a big deal:-) But first I want to have it running an the N900. I got it working now :) Attached is a screenshot (in case the list allows that). Thanks, at least my copy allowed it! Getting the UI Fremantle conform should be straight forward, at least it looks like that to me. If you need help there, just tell me. I got a message from maemo admin: After disabling the toolbar and switching to fullscreen mode there seems to be no way get out of full screen or getting the toolbar back. Can you confirm this? Is no Hardwarebutton bringing up the menu or toggle full screen anymore? Now, the killer feature would be if you could put the transfered image onto a GL surface. That way it would be possible to smoothly zoom in and out of the picture and it would be much easier to hit small buttons and menues. Probably not an easy task, but I think it would rock :) sounds a great idea:-) Cheers! Conny Detlef Berlin, ist ja ganz in der Nähe, oder was bedeutet es auf der Uhr? ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Call for testers with N900 for vncviewer
On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 20:35 +0200, ds wrote: I got a message from maemo admin: After disabling the toolbar and switching to fullscreen mode there seems to be no way get out of full screen or getting the toolbar back. Can you confirm this? Is no Hardwarebutton bringing up the menu or toggle full screen anymore? Uhh, yes... this is indeed a problem. There is no hardware button anymore (not for menu and not for fullscreen) so the toolbar needs to stay or you need another way of exiting the fullscreen mode. sounds a great idea:-) Glad you like it! Berlin, ist ja ganz in der Nähe, oder was bedeutet es auf der Uhr? Ist nur die Zeitzone, aber trotzdem nur ca. 150km weg ;) Cheers! Conny ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Does Uploading to Extras need updating for Fremantle?
Hi all, I'm wondering if http://wiki.maemo.org/Uploading_to_Extras needs updating in the context of http://wiki.maemo.org/Extras-testing and http://wiki.maemo.org/Extras after the Maemo 5 release - I'm afraid I don't have teh smarts to be able to tell. Could someone who has experience using Extras, and familiar with the extras-testing extras-devel set-up, please have a look see if it needs revising? The page is linked to from http://maemo.org/development Thanks! Dave. -- maemo.org docsmaster Email: dne...@maemo.org Jabber: bo...@jabber.org ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Does Uploading to Extras need updating for Fremantle?
Warning: I'm planning to attack extras-testing wiki page tomorrow in order to offer clearer information about quality criteria for developers and betatesters. My humble contribution to the extras-testing marathon http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=33164 -- Sent with Maemo 5 Quim Gil open source advocate Maemo Devices @ Nokia - Original message - Hi all, I'm wondering if http://wiki.maemo.org/Uploading_to_Extras needs updating in the context of http://wiki.maemo.org/Extras-testing and http://wiki.maemo.org/Extras after the Maemo 5 release - I'm afraid I don't have teh smarts to be able to tell. Could someone who has experience using Extras, and familiar with the extras-testing extras-devel set-up, please have a look see if it needs revising? The page is linked to from http://maemo.org/development Thanks! Dave. -- maemo.org docsmaster Email: dne...@maemo.org Jabber: bo...@jabber.org ___ maemo-community mailing list maemo-commun...@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-community ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Does Uploading to Extras need updating for Fremantle?
On Oct 20, 2009, at 21:15, quim@nokia.com wrote: Warning: I'm planning to attack extras-testing wiki page tomorrow in order to offer clearer information about quality criteria for developers and betatesters. I have started doing this for users as well. First I edited: http://wiki.maemo.org/Extras which will further point people to: https://wiki.maemo.org/Extras-testing . I thought we might have a simple overview for users and keep the extras-testing page more for devs. In any case, it would be great if we all co-ordinated our actions so that we don't duplicate work. I am happy to work on whatever people think needs to be done, but if we co-ordinate things either on this list or on the community list, I think we'll get more done. Jeremiah ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Turning on Automatically when connected to power
Hi all, This is for the N810. Is it possible to configure the device such that it will turn on automatically when it is connected to a power supply? I am thinking that since it knows that it is in the charging state when connected to power I am wondering if it is possible to tell itself to turn on automatically. Thanks, Jey Han ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Turning on Automatically when connected to power
It actually boots up partially - the screen with the battery animation is running in something from /etc/init.d. I tried playing with it but didn't want to break anything, but it should be possible to intercept it either from the initrd or the base flash. On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 4:09 PM, Jey Han Lau jeyhan@transtech.net.au wrote: Hi all, This is for the N810. Is it possible to configure the device such that it will turn on automatically when it is connected to a power supply? I am thinking that since it knows that it is in the charging state when connected to power I am wondering if it is possible to tell itself to turn on automatically. Thanks, Jey Han ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
SDL + OpenGL = testing needed
Hi, the SDL libraries currently shipped in the Maemo 5 SDK and device come without OpenGL support. This is a problem for games like Frets on Fire: http://jyro.blogspot.com/2009/03/frets-on-fire-on-maemo-5-fremantle.html http://jyro.blogspot.com/2009/03/fof-pyopengl-minifof-possibly-for-n810.html Now there is a package with the SDL libraries recompiled with --enable-video-opengl. See https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4177 We are looking for testers in order to make sure that the new package would actually work without affecting performance or stability for non-OpenGL, plain SDL games. fwiw Talk discussion thread started at http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=353549 Thank you. -- Quim Gil open source advocate Maemo Devices @ Nokia ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
