Re: compile maemo5 (http://repository.maemo.org/pool/maemo5.0/free/) libhildon on gtk 2.16

[Faheem Pervez]

I think the idea is to build it against Fremantle's GTK:
http://repository.maemo.org/pool/fremantle/free/g/gtk+2.0/

On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 6:55 AM, bocheng cheng
 wrote:
> Hi:
> I download  libhildon  from http://repository.maemo.org/pool/maemo5.0/free/
> when I compile libhildon on gtk 2.16 after I compiled the libcanberra which
> the libhildon depends on.
> some error come out .Following symbols are  not defined :
> HildonSizeType
> HildonUIMode
> GtkWidgetTapAndHoldFlags
>
> Is there a patch to gtk  to fix this problem
>
> Any help is welcome.
>
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Re: Upgrade Description and Package Interface fun

[Martin Grimme]

Hi,

could this be

https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6187

?

As long as this bug exists, I won't use the upgrade description field anymore.


Martin


2009/11/17, Edward Page :
> After getting some comments about this for Gonvert, I thought I'd
> finally look into this issue, see:
> http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_extras-testing_free_armel/gonvert/0.9.0-4
>
> So I have 4 packages in the Fremantle Package interface
> http://maemo.org/packages/view/dialcentral/
> http://maemo.org/packages/view/ejpi/
> http://maemo.org/packages/view/gonvert/
> http://maemo.org/packages/view/quicknote/
>
> Dialcentral's page has a description, the others' pages have the most
> recent package's Maemo-Upgrade-Description.  Similar build script
> wrapping the same version of py2deb (a custom one I run).  I've
> checked the source package's control files and the binary package's
> control files.  To me, it all looks good.  I've included the source
> control files for reference.
>
> Anyone know what is going on?  Is something wrong in the formatting of
> my control files?  Is this some kind of Package Interface bug?
>
> Thanks
> Ed Page
> (epage)
>
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RE: n900 recovery mode?

[tero.kojo]

> -Original Message-
> From: ext Victor Fragoso [mailto:vfrag...@cs.ucsb.edu] 
> Sent: 16 November, 2009 19:59
> To: Kojo Tero (Nokia-D/Helsinki)
> Cc: maemo-developers@maemo.org
> Subject: RE: n900 recovery mode?
> 
> I wasn't able to connect via ssh to the phone because my bad 
> script was intended to be executed at booting up and set up 
> the LD_LIBRARY_PATH variable, but I forgot to add "execute" 
> permission to that script and I rebooted the phone, and I 
> think that caused maemo not to load any service.

Ah, yes. That does cripple pretty much everything.

> I am a graduate student at UC Santa Barbara, USA, we received 
> some devices for research purposes. 

Ok, in the future feel free to bug me in case of problems. Now that you can 
flash the device you shouldn't have too many, but in case something comes up. 
And naturally this forum is an excellent place to ask for advice in case you 
run into something strange.

> By the way, I flashed my device and I have it back! =) Thank 
> you very much Tero

I'm not to thank really, it's the people over here at Maemo in general that can 
be thanked.

Tero
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compile maemo5 (http://repository.maemo.org/pool/maemo5.0/free/) libhildon on gtk 2.16

[bocheng cheng]

Hi:
I download  libhildon  from http://repository.maemo.org/pool/maemo5.0/free/
when I compile libhildon on gtk 2.16 after I compiled the libcanberra which
the libhildon depends on.
some error come out .Following symbols are  not defined :
HildonSizeType
HildonUIMode
GtkWidgetTapAndHoldFlags

Is there a patch to gtk  to fix this problem

Any help is welcome.
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Re: Maemo on Beagleboard

[Dirk Behme]

tero.k...@nokia.com wrote:
> - Original message -
>> Michael wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I have followed the tutorial on:
>>> http://omappedia.org/wiki/Maemo_Getting_Started
>>>
>>> to install Maemo 5 final on the Beagleboard.
>>> Everything went fine and it boot to a screen with a water background.
>>>
>>> But what can i do from this point?
>>> How to install applications?
>>> In the inet i often see a package manager for maemo on the
>> beagleboard.
>>> But i have only a blue screen with an icon in the left-top corner.
>>>
>>> If anyone is using maemo on the beagleboard it would be good to give
>>> some advice.
>> I wasn't able to do anything more than you describe here, too. Due to
>> missing mouse cursor.
> 
> I think Till got the best results so far, he has a touchscreen that gave some 
> repeatable results. (tslib might be the thing to try for touchscreens)
> 
> The mouse is the current biggest limitation for the rest of us. By tweaking 
> things in xorg.conf I got the left mouse button to work (verifiable by 
> clicking it, it brings the edit icon on the home screen). However moving the 
> mouse didn't work :/ Then I got busy with other stuff (making the maemo.org 
> server move happen).
> 
> But network (usb) can be made to work, so installing and running things is 
> doable from command line. However without the mouse you can't do anything.

Nothing new regarding Beagle mouse issue, but some general news:

* Zoom2 people have Maemo5 running on Zoom2 with touchscreen:

http://omappedia.org/wiki/Maemo_Getting_Started#Status

(see status change in page history, too)

http://www.daimi.au.dk/~cvm/maemo-on-non-nokia-devices.pdf

(picture on page 3)

* Today (17th 2009) at 2:15 PM CST / 20:15 UTC Carsten V. Munk 
(Stskeeps) gives a lightning talk about "Maemo on non-Nokia devices " 
at TI's ETechDays Community Lightning Talks:

http://wiki.omap.com/index.php/ETechDays_Community_Lightning_Talks#November_17th_2009_Event

http://www.daimi.au.dk/~cvm/maemo-on-non-nokia-devices.pdf

* I talked yesterday with Carsten and he wonders about the Maemo mouse 
cursor issue as it seems to work with Mer and Zoom2:

http://www.beagleboard.org/irclogs/index.php?date=2009-11-16#T15:06:08

Cheers

Dirk
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[Fwd: Re: Maemo Barcelona Weekend: best way to ask for help for a UI?]

[Quim Gil]

Forwarding since this email in maemo-community is more relevant to
developers.

If you have more questions about the Maemo - Barcelona Long Weekend
please ask. http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo-Barcelona_Long_Weekend

Quim
--- Begin Message ---
45 people registered at
http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo-Barcelona_Long_Weekend - 11 of them with
accepted sponsorship. Hurry up if you want to join us!

Also please help promoting the event. Make sure your friends based in
Spain know about it. Make sure the developers of your beloved
applications know about it as well. Yes, you can make a difference by
micro/blogging, forwarding a bringing the topic to relevant forums.

ext Andrea Grandi wrote:
> I'd like to ask for help for this but I think that a slot in the three
> days is too much for this application, surely there are more important
> one to discuss.
> Will we organize short session where people like me can ask help to
> more skilled people?

Don't get obsessed about not getting a slot in the official agenda.
These sessions are not meant to keep all the people wrking in that
project. It's more a reference in the schedule and an activity for you
to follow and get involved if there is nothing else/better you find for
that particular time. The idea is that you help yourself by helping
others. You learn by discussing with others about how to improve their
projects.

We are working to have enough UX specialists in order to have someone
available basically at any time.

> In particular I need help in Python + Hildon field (maybe I should
> offer a beer to a person I've in mind and probably he will help me...
> let's see if he reads this :D )

Don't expect them to know the insights of Python/Hildon, though. They
obviously know the Maemo 5 UI but how you get things done with code is a
different matter. Anyway, there will be other colleagues attending and
some GTK+/Hildon & Qt specialists in the other activities.

-- 
Quim Gil
open source advocate
Maemo Devices @ Nokia
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Upgrade Description and Package Interface fun

[Edward Page]

After getting some comments about this for Gonvert, I thought I'd
finally look into this issue, see:
http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_extras-testing_free_armel/gonvert/0.9.0-4

So I have 4 packages in the Fremantle Package interface
http://maemo.org/packages/view/dialcentral/
http://maemo.org/packages/view/ejpi/
http://maemo.org/packages/view/gonvert/
http://maemo.org/packages/view/quicknote/

Dialcentral's page has a description, the others' pages have the most
recent package's Maemo-Upgrade-Description.  Similar build script
wrapping the same version of py2deb (a custom one I run).  I've
checked the source package's control files and the binary package's
control files.  To me, it all looks good.  I've included the source
control files for reference.

Anyone know what is going on?  Is something wrong in the formatting of
my control files?  Is this some kind of Package Interface bug?

Thanks
Ed Page
(epage)


dialcentral-control
Description: Binary data


ejpi-control
Description: Binary data


gonvert-control
Description: Binary data
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Automatically connect to dummy connection

[Jey Han Lau]

Hi all,

I am trying to find a way to connect to a "dummy" connection 
automatically for a Nokia N810. I have bluetooth PAN installed and have 
scripts that make it pair it with another device automatically, but 
whenever I browse the web the "Select a Connection" dialog box would pop 
up and I'd have to manually select the "dummy" connection. Is there 
anyway using a command or something to make it always connect to a dummy 
connection, so that the user will not be prompted the select connection 
dialog box?

It shouldn't be too hard... but I just couldn't find information on this 
on the Internet.


Cheers,
Jey Han
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Re: n900 recovery mode?

[Victor Fragoso]

On Mon, 2009-11-16 at 18:52 +0100, Nicola Mfb wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 11:50 AM, Andre Klapper  
> wrote:
> > Am Samstag, den 14.11.2009, 13:50 -0800 schrieb Victor Fragoso:
> >> Do you know if there exist any flag telling the kernel to boot in a
> >> recovery mode?
> >
> > I don't think there is something like "a recovery mode".
> 
> May be possible to have a dual boot or boot from sd?
That could be also great, but as far as I know you can pass some
parameters to the linux kernel that will boot, load modules and finally
just open a terminal in vga mode, nothing else. 
With a terminal I could have fixed my bad script.

Victor. 
> 
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Re: n900 recovery mode?

[Nicola Mfb]

On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 11:50 AM, Andre Klapper  wrote:
> Am Samstag, den 14.11.2009, 13:50 -0800 schrieb Victor Fragoso:
>> Do you know if there exist any flag telling the kernel to boot in a
>> recovery mode?
>
> I don't think there is something like "a recovery mode".

May be possible to have a dual boot or boot from sd?

 Niko
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RE: n900 recovery mode?

[Victor Fragoso]

On Mon, 2009-11-16 at 09:30 +0100, tero.k...@nokia.com wrote:
> > -Original Message-
> > From: maemo-developers-boun...@maemo.org 
> > [mailto:maemo-developers-boun...@maemo.org] On Behalf Of ext 
> > Victor Fragoso
> > Sent: 14 November, 2009 23:50
> > To: maemo-developers@maemo.org
> > Subject: n900 recovery mode?
> > 
> > Hello,
> > 
> > I recently was testing some libraries on the n900, and in 
> > order to point the libraries I made a script that exports 
> > LD_LIBRARY_PATH pointing to the path where my libraries were. 
> > I added this line to /etc/profile 
> > 
> > source /home/user/script.sh 
> > 
> > I forgot to add the execute permission, and after rebooting 
> > the phone, the UI didn't start anymore. I think it crashes 
> > when it tries to start the script, and unfortunately the 
> > tablet can't connect to the network.
> > 
> > I tried also to pass some flags to the kernel, I passed the 
> > init=/bin/ash and see if I could get a terminal on the 
> > screen, but I had no success.
> 
> So you can't connect with ssh to undo your changes?
I couldn't :(
> Also I'm confused, how did you do that after you lost screen and network? 
> Usbnet and ssh or what? Or did you do it all in one go?
I wasn't able to connect via ssh to the phone because my bad script was
intended to be executed at booting up and set up the LD_LIBRARY_PATH
variable, but I forgot to add "execute" permission to that script and I
rebooted the phone, and I think that caused maemo not to load any
service.
> 
> > Do you know if there exist any flag telling the kernel to 
> > boot in a recovery mode?
> 
> Not that I know of. (But I'm not a low level guy)
I think there should be a recovery mode, most of the linux kernels
accept flags to start just a simple terminal in vga mode.
> 
> If you hang on a while, we'll provide the images and tools to flash your 
> device clean. I assume this is one of the 300 from Amsterdam.
> 
I am a graduate student at UC Santa Barbara, USA, we received some
devices for research purposes. 

By the way, I flashed my device and I have it back! =)
Thank you very much Tero

> Tero
> 
> > Victor.
> > 
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RE: n900 recovery mode?

[Victor Fragoso]

Great!! The fastest solution was to flash the phone, but the image
wasn't available by the time I screwed my phone. 

I'll flash it right away!
Thanks guys!

On Mon, 2009-11-16 at 12:14 +0100, tero.k...@nokia.com wrote:
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > Andre Klapper
> > Sent: 16 November, 2009 12:51
> > To: maemo-developers@maemo.org
> > Subject: Re: n900 recovery mode?
> > 
> > I don't think there is something like "a recovery mode".
> > Reflashing will help, once the final image is out (really soon(TM)):
> > http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware
> 
> Andre you were so late, when your post arrived, the images had been available 
> for like two whole minutes :-)
> 
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PyMaemo now optified (in extras-devel)!

[Anderson Lizardo]

Hi,

I uploaded to fremantle extras-devel a new package called
"pymaemo-optify" and an updated version of python2.5 that depends on
this package. It basically implements the idea proposed by Andrew
Flegg of using "mount --bind" to relocate the biggest Python
directories to /opt:

/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages
/usr/share/pyshared
/usr/lib/pyshared
/usr/share/python-support
/usr/lib/python-support

This does not cover all files installed by PyMaemo packages, juts the
biggest ones. Only handling the above already cuts more than 20MB from
root filesystem, just for a simple "apt-get install python-gtk2". More
directories can be added later if necessary, through updates to the
"pymaemo-optify" package.

pymaemo-optify should correctly handle upgrades, migrating the above
directories to /opt/pymaemo and "mount --bind" ing them back to their
location. So for most users, simply run update on the Application
Manager and all these directories will magically go to /opt (and any
packages that install files under these directories will be
automatically optified too), thus freeing up precious storage on root
filesystem.

The optified Python installation will naturally migrate to
extras-testing once some Python application gets promoted. For now,
use extras-devel to try it.

How to optify a Python application?

If your application is already modular and installs modules to
/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages, your application will be
automatically optified. If your application consists of a single
script installed under /usr/bin, the recommended way is to make it
into a module installed to /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages , with a
"main"  method that can be called from the /usr/bin script. Example:

Instead of a single /usr/bin/my_app script with:




You can have a /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/my_app.py with:


def main():


And have a /usr/bin/my_app with something like:

import my_app
my_app.main()

This is just a suggestion though, developers are free to design their
code as they like.

TODO:

- optify /usr/bin/python2.5 (it seems a symlink should work, after
some testing we will upload a new version of python2.5 to reduce
around 1 MB from root fs usage.

Regards,
-- 
Anderson Lizardo
OpenBossa Labs - INdT
Manaus - Brazil
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RE: n900 recovery mode?

[tero.kojo]

 

> -Original Message-
> Andre Klapper
> Sent: 16 November, 2009 12:51
> To: maemo-developers@maemo.org
> Subject: Re: n900 recovery mode?
> 
> I don't think there is something like "a recovery mode".
> Reflashing will help, once the final image is out (really soon(TM)):
> http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware

Andre you were so late, when your post arrived, the images had been available 
for like two whole minutes :-)

Tero
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Re: n900 recovery mode?

[Andre Klapper]

Am Samstag, den 14.11.2009, 13:50 -0800 schrieb Victor Fragoso:
> Do you know if there exist any flag telling the kernel to boot in a
> recovery mode?

I don't think there is something like "a recovery mode".
Reflashing will help, once the final image is out (really soon(TM)):
http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware

andre
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Re: no such file or directory

[Jeremiah Foster]

Hi Mohamed,

On Nov 16, 2009, at 11:26, mohamed ismael wrote:

It is customary to post your comments directly underneath the comments that 
were sent to you. This way we can 'weave' together a conversation that everyone 
can follow. :)

> i added the following line in my code
>> #include 
>> and i get the error
>> no such file or directory
> 
> 
> Is this the exact error message? If it isn't, could you paste the exact error 
> message in your mail?
> 
> 
>> > i am using esbox IDE and
>> > i installed the libprofile on my scratchbox using the following command
>> > apt-get install libprofile-dev and it is installed successfully
>> > but when i try to install it in the ordinary terminal it says could not > 
>> > find it
>> > what is the problem?
>>  
> 
> Are you using the include file in a shell script? Or are you using it in a C 
> file?
> 
> Jeremiah
> 
> --
> 
> the exact message is src/main.c:24:24: error: libprofile.h: No such file or 
> directory

Have you put libprofile.h in a place that your compiler can find it? Have you 
passed the compile the include flag?

Jeremiah
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Re: How to get n900 IMEI code in C

[Dave Neary]

Hi,

Graham Cobb wrote:
> I have asked Nokia and they are not willing to release the documentation for
> the CSD services.  Their reasons include supportability (the interfaces may
> change) and that they are trying to push oFono as the right long term
> solution (although it isn't here yet).

I've been following this thread with interest, and have set the wheels
in motion to have DBus interfaces documented - to start with, I plan to
document one module in HAF to understand the process and document it,
and then let ye all loose documenting the rest of them :)

If we have an easy way for the interfaces to be documented, I'm sure
that the relevant developers in Nokia will see the value & help us out.

> However, many of the CSD services can be discovered using various DBus
> tools.  I have made a start on that and have put the information I have
> worked out so far in the Wiki of one of my garage projects.  You can see
> this at:
> 
> https://garage.maemo.org/plugins/wiki/index.php?CSD%20programming%20information&id=1106&type=g

Great! Any chance that you could put this is the main Maemo wiki,
please? The issue with d-feet or similar is that there is no semantic
information associated with the interfaces.

> I may move it to the maemo.org Wiki at some point, but I was waiting until I
> had got more info and done more testing (including understanding if some
> things had bad effects!).  If anyone wants to contribute, let me know and I
> can add you to the project.

I'd really be happier with this in the Maemo wiki, if you don't mind. We
could even link it from the Documentation page.

Thanks!
Dave.

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problem in building a package

[mohamed ismael]

i am using esbox IDE and i want to build a package so i
right click on my project->debian package->create debian structure
every thing run fine until now, then i
right click on my project->debian package->build debian package
i get the following error
src/main.c:24:24: error: libprofile.h: No such file or directory
note that i included the file in my source code using
#include 
and also included it (-I/usr/include/profiled)by hand in the make file 
and the library (-lprofile)
in the following lines
DEPS_CFLAGS = -DMAEMO_CHANGES -pthread -I/usr/include/gtk-2.0 
-I/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/include/cairo 
-I/usr/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 
-I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/include/pixman-1 
-I/usr/include/freetype2 -I/usr/include/libpng12 
-I/usr/include/gnome-vfs-2.0 -I/usr/lib/gnome-vfs-2.0/include 
-I/usr/include/gconf/2 -I/usr/include/dbus-1.0 
-I/usr/lib/dbus-1.0/include -I/usr/include/profiled 
DEPS_LIBS = -pthread -lgtk-x11-2.0 -lgdk-x11-2.0 -latk-1.0 -lgio-2.0 
-lpangoft2-1.0 -lgdk_pixbuf-2.0 -lpangocairo-1.0 -lcairo -lpango-1.0 
-lfreetype -lfontconfig -lgnomevfs-2 -lgconf-2 -lgthread-2.0 -lrt 
-lgmodule-2.0 -ldbus-glib-1 -ldbus-1 -lpthread -lgobject-2.0 -lglib-2.0  
-lprofile

note that the program compiles and run on the emulator but this error 
appears only when i try to build the package
what is the problem?

another question
can i add the include file and the library using the IDE rather than by 
hand in the make file?

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Re: how to create a desktop applet

[daniel wilms]

Hi
> I can't seem to find the APIs needed to do such thing.
> where should a look to find something like that?
there is a good tutorial how to do that in the developer guide:

http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo_5_Developer_Guide/Application_Development/Writing_Desktop_Widgets

Hope that helps,

cheers Daniel
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RE: n900 recovery mode?

[tero.kojo]

> -Original Message-
> From: maemo-developers-boun...@maemo.org 
> [mailto:maemo-developers-boun...@maemo.org] On Behalf Of ext 
> Victor Fragoso
> Sent: 14 November, 2009 23:50
> To: maemo-developers@maemo.org
> Subject: n900 recovery mode?
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I recently was testing some libraries on the n900, and in 
> order to point the libraries I made a script that exports 
> LD_LIBRARY_PATH pointing to the path where my libraries were. 
> I added this line to /etc/profile 
> 
> source /home/user/script.sh 
> 
> I forgot to add the execute permission, and after rebooting 
> the phone, the UI didn't start anymore. I think it crashes 
> when it tries to start the script, and unfortunately the 
> tablet can't connect to the network.
> 
> I tried also to pass some flags to the kernel, I passed the 
> init=/bin/ash and see if I could get a terminal on the 
> screen, but I had no success.

So you can't connect with ssh to undo your changes?

Also I'm confused, how did you do that after you lost screen and network? 
Usbnet and ssh or what? Or did you do it all in one go?

> Do you know if there exist any flag telling the kernel to 
> boot in a recovery mode?

Not that I know of. (But I'm not a low level guy)

If you hang on a while, we'll provide the images and tools to flash your device 
clean. I assume this is one of the 300 from Amsterdam.

Tero

> Victor.
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how to create a desktop applet

[ibrahim]

greetings;

I am tryting to make an applet to show some information on the desktop. 
I can't seem to find the APIs needed to do such thing.
where should a look to find something like that?

thanx
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RE: Flash in MicroB on N900: Hardware acceleration?

[tero.kojo]

From: maemo-developers-boun...@maemo.org 
[mailto:maemo-developers-boun...@maemo.org] On Behalf Of ext Qole
Sent: 16 November, 2009 02:55
To: Thomas Waelti
Cc: maemo-developers@maemo.org
Subject: Re: Flash in MicroB on N900: Hardware acceleration?

My impression is that the current Adobe Flash is not hardware accelerated, but 
Flash 10 (available in 2010) will be.

See this Adobe press release for more details:

http://www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/pressroom/pressreleases/200811/111708ARMAdobeFlash.html

I might be wrong. I hope I'm right, however, because Flash performance on the 
N900 isn't terribly good.


You are right. Currently Flash isn't hardware accelerated, this makes flash 
video sites painfull too.

Tero
On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 12:13 PM, Thomas Waelti 
mailto:twae...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Still running with 2009.41-10, I'm unsure if the flash player is hardware 
accelerated or not. In the context menu of Flash player, under Settings>Display 
(first tab from the left), there is one (selected) item called "Enable hardware 
acceleration". This looks good.

OTOH, I'm asking this because the perfomance of Google Streetview in my maeMaps 
Google Maps webapp seems relatively slow when changing views to the left and 
right (especially after I've seen "native" Streetview running on a HTC phone 
:-). In addition, flash games that are slightly advanced seem slow, too.
I'm aware that in both contexts, I have fullscreen flash. But still - the 
device is quite snappy in all other tasks I'm throwing at it, just flash seems 
a tad too slow in comparison.

Anyone with other experience / insider knowhow?

Thanks
-Tom







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