Re: USB host mode on N900 (was Re: N900 usb host + power charge)
Hi, On Mon, Dec 07, 2009 at 09:24:51PM -0800, Sarah Newman wrote: Paul Fertser wrote: I'm no USB expert either but given what i already know about it, i think more hardware information is needed to be able to give a final verdict on the N900 usb host mode functionality. I'm not talking here about perfectly correct standards implementation or certification issues though i personally would prefer to have a working hostmode implementation to having a useless usb logo on the box. I don't know at this time what Nokia went through to get their USB charging to work, but my expectation is that host mode is not supported because the n900 cannot supply power. Even if n900 can't supply power hostmode should still be possible if you provide power to the peripheral from the outside. Your other remarks about OTG are valid but even if proper OTG support is impossible on n900, having host mode working in a manual way would still be great. I mean one just switches it to the host mode, provides power and 15k pulldowns (if necessary) and it should just work. If i had an n900 in my hands, i would use the mode sysfs node of the musb driver, valid parameters are host, peripheral and otg. I'd switch it to the host mode and measured with DMM if there's power on the Vbus and checked the resistance between DM/DP and GND (should be ~15k). I'd connect what's lacking externally and tried attaching some mass-storage device or a mouse. -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! mailto:fercer...@gmail.com ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Fwd: Free Thursday, 2009-12-10, 18:00, *Teerenpeli, Kamppi*
-- Forwarded message -- From: Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi Date: 2009/12/8 Subject: Free Thursday, 2009-12-10, 18:00, *Teerenpeli, Kamppi* To: free-thurs...@liw.iki.fi Cc: debian...@lists.fishpool.fi, fsfe...@fsfeurope.org, ubuntu...@lists.ubuntu.com Suomeksi Free Thursday on säännöllinen tapahtuma pääkaupunkiseudun alueella oleville ihmisille, jotka ovat kiinnostuneita vapaista ohjelmista (free software, open source software). Tapaamme joka kuukauden toisena torstaina, kello 18:00 jossakin baarissa. Ei muodollista ohjelmaa, ei sponsorointia. Tervetuloa! Seuraava tapahtuma on torstaina 10.12.2009, kello 18:00, paikkana Teerenpeli, Kamppi. http://www.teerenpeli.com/?sivu=kamppialasivu=lisa http://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=60.17007mlon=24.93374zoom=16layers=B000FTF In English Free Thursday is a regular event for people in the Helsinki area interested in free software / open source software. We meet on the second Thursday each month, at 18:00, in some bar. There is no formal program, and no sponsorship. You're welcome! The next event will be on Thursday, December 10, 2009, at 18:00, at Teerenpeli, Kamppi. http://www.teerenpeli.com/?sivu=kamppialasivu=lisa http://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=60.17007mlon=24.93374zoom=16layers=B000FTF -- To unsubscribe, send mail to free-thursday-unsubscr...@liw.iki.fi. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Maemo Best Practices
How about a set of examples which are also templates which could be used which would have all the packaging and such, does all those best practices, yet would be easy to swap out the original engine for one to do what a different app should accomplish. Generally I've seen a contradiction between the desire and what is actually there to be used. If it is No, you have to do all this yourself, or No, if you want to do X, you can't do it any easy way. On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 11:24 PM, David Greaves da...@dgreaves.com wrote: Edward Page wrote: Hi All, I was talking to texrat recently who had the idea of organizing best practices for app development. Currently I really only have a couple of categories with limited ideas for each. I'm curious what you all think before running off and creating the wiki page. Out of laziness, I did some wiki syntax but not all of it is. Just snipping the content and responding to the concept... The documentation stream at the Barcelona weekend proposed just such an idea. We're looking to make this pervasive; to include best practices with examples as a part of each area in the docs rather than an area in itself. A challenge is to find a way to introduce these things and structure them into the overall set of docs. David -- Don't worry, you'll be fine; I saw it work in a cartoon once... ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Double checking free/nonfree packages
ext Christopher Allan Webber wrote: Funambol SyncML --- Claims Funambol is the leading mobile open source project and leading provider of open source mobile cloud sync and push email for billions of phones. https://www.forge.funambol.org/DomainHome.html If it's open source, is it really nonfree then? Appears to be under the AGPL? https://core.forge.funambol.org/source/browse/core/trunk/LICENSE.txt?revision=28308view=markup Dual licensing. In short, the Maemo team went for the commercial license to avoid legal risks linking open/closed components. xml2wbxml - Appears to be linked to the wbxmllib project, which is under the gpl? http://sourceforge.net/projects/wbxmllib/develop No, it's an own implementation of the WBXML specification. -- Quim Gil open source advocate Maemo Devices @ Nokia ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Sharing services
2009/12/7 Alexander Bokovoy a...@samba.org: On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 6:57 PM, Aniello Del Sorbo ani...@gmail.com wrote: I want to use the sharing services. Thus I was looking for the API to share a file via the already installed sharing plugins. Is this API also to be revealed once the N900 has been released? The Sharing Dialog API will be added into SDK release for first software update for N900. See https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6177 That's great news, thank you :) -- anidel ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Promoting Diablo packages to extras-devel?
I have a package that's built ok for both Diablo and Fremantle (penguinreader, to be exact). However, I can't find the plage where I could promote the Diablo version to extras-testing. These logs only show the fremantle builds, even if I got the emails for Diablo builds: http://maemo.org/packages/view/penguinreader/ The package has definitely landed on Diablo extras-devel: http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/pool/diablo/free/p/penguinreader/ -- Ville M. Vainio http://tinyurl.com/vainio ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Maemo Best Practices
Hi, - Original message - Message: 9 Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 22:58:37 -0600 From: Edward Page eop...@byu.net Subject: Maemo Best Practices To: maemo-developers@maemo.org maemo-developers@maemo.org Cc: tex...@ovi.com Message-ID: b54804ea0912072058n363a5b3dh33c3284a378b8...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi All, I was talking to texrat recently who had the idea of organizing best practices for app development. Ed Page (epage) Great idea! Please take a look at my OLD Maemo UI doc for some additional ideas: http://samoff.com/maemoui/ Lets do this! Tim -- http://samoff.com ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
mafw-lasftm: installed, configured, restarted the device, but plugin is not started
Hi all, I was trying to test mafw-lastfm plugin on my N900 but I cannot make it work. I've installed it from extras-devel, I've configured it following the istructions contained in README and I've restarted the device. The plugin is not started automatically and I don't think the average user would be able to understand how to start a mafw plugin. Could you please fix this for the next release? Thanks :) -- Andrea Grandi email: a.grandi [AT] gmail [DOT] com website: http://www.andreagrandi.it PGP Key: http://www.andreagrandi.it/pgp_key.asc ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: mafw-lasftm: installed, configured, restarted the device, but plugin is not started
El mar, 08-12-2009 a las 16:13 +0100, Andrea Grandi escribió: Hi all, I was trying to test mafw-lastfm plugin on my N900 but I cannot make it work. I've installed it from extras-devel, I've configured it following the istructions contained in README and I've restarted the device. The plugin is not started automatically and I don't think the average user would be able to understand how to start a mafw plugin. $ mafw-lastfm That should be enough to start it. Did you try to start it manually? Could you please fix this for the next release? Thanks :) Since this is maemo-developers, I'll ask: did you try to debug why it doesn't start during the beginning of the session or whether it starts and exits, crashes, or whatever? Claudio ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: mafw-lasftm: installed, configured, restarted the device, but plugin is not started
Hi, 2009/12/8 Claudio Saavedra csaave...@igalia.com: El mar, 08-12-2009 a las 16:13 +0100, Andrea Grandi escribió: Hi all, I was trying to test mafw-lastfm plugin on my N900 but I cannot make it work. I've installed it from extras-devel, I've configured it following the istructions contained in README and I've restarted the device. The plugin is not started automatically and I don't think the average user would be able to understand how to start a mafw plugin. $ mafw-lastfm That should be enough to start it. Did you try to start it manually? yes, I tried this while I was connected to it via ssh. I controlled with ps -aux | grep mafw if it was running, but I wasn't. Is it a standalone plugin or does it have to be started with the mafw wrapper? Since this is maemo-developers, I'll ask: did you try to debug why it doesn't start during the beginning of the session or whether it starts and exits, crashes, or whatever? no error messages... it just stay without doing anything after you execute it... it doesn't return. -- Andrea Grandi email: a.grandi [AT] gmail [DOT] com website: http://www.andreagrandi.it PGP Key: http://www.andreagrandi.it/pgp_key.asc ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Bad Xephyr OpenGL performance
I opened a t.m.o thread asking a similar question a few days ago: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=35790 I believe _no one_ is really getting accelerated GL in Xephyr+SDK. I'm not getting any acceleration (unless I use VMGL). No one I asked to in the Barcelona Long Weekend had accelerated GL in Xephyr+SDK either. I'd say the shipped libGL is the mesa sw-only one. Though, someone in that tmo thread just said he has accelerated GL, so... maybe only super-recent builds of Xephyr get indirect accelerated GLX? Btw, 1500fps in glxgears is hardly accelerated OpenGL these days, which only adds to my suspicions. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Developing Map-based apps for N900
If I want to develop an app that integrates with a map plugin, then obviously I want to use Ovi maps but the Ovi Maps SDK doesn't support Maemo and as far as I know the Ovi Maps app for Maemo can't be used as a plugin. There must be work going on behind the scenes to resolve this situation - in the mean time I would be greatly appreciated if someone from Nokia could provide some direction so developer like myself avoid wasting time on solutions that might be dead-ends when the real solution is eventually announced. The way I see it there are several potential solutions: 1) I could write a Qt App that embeds Ovi Maps into a QtWebKit widget. I don't think this is currently possible due to it's lack of support for Maemo/Linux but I will do some prototyping here any way and see how far I get. 2) Write a Qt app that embeds Google Maps into a QtWebKit widget. 3) Wait for a dedicated Ovi Maps plugin for Maemo to be developed. Will there ever be such a plugin? Can someone from Nokia comment on this please? Thank you, Paul Drummond ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Command line apps Extras
Hi, Ok, let's reach a final solution here. I made a brainstorm proposal[1] with the best solutions proposed here, feel free to add more. Can some brainstorm expert point me how to add a TMO link in the proposal, like some proposals already have[2] ? Perhaps one of the mods can put this proposal directly in the 'under consideration' basket, since was already discussed and is very important. [1] - http://maemo.org/community/brainstorm/view/command_line_applications_and_extras/ [2] - http://maemo.org/community/brainstorm/view/ovi_maps_improvement_suggestions Best regards, -- Valério Valério Maemo Community Council Chair http://www.valeriovalerio.org On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 4:05 PM, Thomas Perl th.p...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/11/29 Graham Cobb g+...@cobb.uk.net g%2b...@cobb.uk.net: This whole discussion is a really short term problem. Once there are 500 applications in extras, people aren't going to be going through the list in H-A-M installing applications: they are going to be using the web pages (Maemo Downloads) and the categories, ratings, reviews, etc. on those pages. H-A-M will be used mainly for removing and upgrading applications. Or better: H-A-M will have a more prominently placed search function or HildonLiveSearch-based all applications list. Would solve more problems than just the question about command-line apps ;) Thomas ___ maemo-community mailing list maemo-commun...@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-community ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
RE: Developing Map-based apps for N900
If I want to develop an app that integrates with a map plugin, then obviously I want to use Ovi maps but the Ovi Maps SDK doesn't support Maemo and as far as I know the Ovi Maps app for Maemo can't be used as a plugin. There must be work going on behind the scenes to resolve this situation - in the mean time I would be greatly appreciated if someone from Nokia could provide some direction so developer like myself avoid wasting time on solutions that might be dead-ends when the real solution is eventually announced. The way I see it there are several potential solutions: 1) I could write a Qt App that embeds Ovi Maps into a QtWebKit widget. I don't think this is currently possible due to it's lack of support for Maemo/Linux but I will do some prototyping here any way and see how far I get. 2) Write a Qt app that embeds Google Maps into a QtWebKit widget. 3) Wait for a dedicated Ovi Maps plugin for Maemo to be developed. Will there ever be such a plugin? Can someone from Nokia comment on this please? I'm not from Nokia, though I would like to know if the mapping situation will improve out of the box. With that said, Maemo-mapper is now available for the N900 as is Emerillon in Extras-devel (uses liblocation but needs its menus hildonising still). Emerillon is plugin based so that might give you another useful option. Cheers, Simon ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Google Latitude
Hi all, Though this is probably more of a -users subject, I thought some testing might be worthwhile to begin with, plus I'd hate to have to actually pay attention to the -users list ;) I've been wondering about Google Latitude for a while now (ever since we were at the summit and trying to meet up in the same pub in a place were we didn't know the geography and couldn't pronounce the street names). Anyway, this seems to work to some extent: Install the maemo-geolocation plugin for the browser; In the browser open www.google.co.uk/maps/m?view=datamode=latitudesource=moggl=uk which is the page the iPhone opens. There doesn't seem to be a check on the useragent (except if you try to open google.co.uk directly). I guess it will be something similar for you guys in the US, a combination of desktop Firefox + User Agent Switcher + tcpdump should tell you exactly if you can't work it out by guessing. Then click away and use the (web)app. Not sure how location updates work, whether they are handled automatically or not, something to be tested. It also might be a better bet to work out the protocol the Google maps Latitude page uses to avoid the overhead of having the browser running all the time. But I don't know, it might be ok powerwise - anyone thoughts? Cheers, Simon ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
RE: Google Latitude
Not sure how location updates work, whether they are handled automatically or not, something to be tested. It also might I'm sat in my flat (i.e. with only a cell id location), and can see myself jumping all around Bath, so I guess updates are handled automatically. The one strange thing is that the last update message doesn't seem to be set by this webapp, while it is set by the Google homepage Latitude plugin, not sure/not looked how to fix that as it would be useful to know when the last update was. Cheers, Simon ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Developers Guide
Hi, is there beside the Wike a Maemo 5 Developer Guide? http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo_5_Developer_Guide A lot of pages are still empty in this guide Is there a start point which guide me to all relevant information? I tried the wiki and forum nokia... Regards, Keywan -- Keywan Najafi Tonekaboni http://www.prometoys.net peo...@world:/# apt-get --purge remove capitalism After unpacking world will be freed. You are about to do something potentially beneficial To continue type in the phrase 'Yes, do as We say!' ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Google Latitude
Hi, 2009/12/8 Simon Pickering s.g.picker...@bath.ac.uk: Not sure how location updates work, whether they are handled automatically or not, something to be tested. It also might I'm sat in my flat (i.e. with only a cell id location), and can see myself jumping all around Bath, so I guess updates are handled automatically. The one strange thing is that the last update message doesn't seem to be set by this webapp, while it is set by the Google homepage Latitude plugin, not sure/not looked how to fix that as it would be useful to know when the last update was. I'm trying this right now, but belive me: using Google services (Gmail, Maps, Reader, ecc...) with N900 is something that make you say: what is this shit?! I want an iPhone! :( GOOGLE: PLEASE, release your suite for Maemo! Thanks! -- Andrea Grandi email: a.grandi [AT] gmail [DOT] com website: http://www.andreagrandi.it PGP Key: http://www.andreagrandi.it/pgp_key.asc ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: mafw-lasftm: installed, configured, restarted the device, but plugin is not started
El mar, 08-12-2009 a las 16:49 +0100, Andrea Grandi escribió: Hi, 2009/12/8 Claudio Saavedra csaave...@igalia.com: El mar, 08-12-2009 a las 16:13 +0100, Andrea Grandi escribió: Hi all, I was trying to test mafw-lastfm plugin on my N900 but I cannot make it work. I've installed it from extras-devel, I've configured it following the istructions contained in README and I've restarted the device. The plugin is not started automatically and I don't think the average user would be able to understand how to start a mafw plugin. I noticed that the postinst script was missing the debhelper token used by dh_installxsession to plug its magic. Now the Xsession script should be installed properly. I pushed a new package to the autobuilder queue already. Claudio ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
RE: Google Latitude
I'm trying this right now, but belive me: using Google services (Gmail, Maps, Reader, ecc...) with N900 is something that make you say: what is this shit?! I want an iPhone! :( GOOGLE: PLEASE, release your suite for Maemo! Thanks! Well yeah, it would be good if they would, but for Latitude at least, it doesn't seem to bad (though the webpage design leaves something to be desired as some buttons are in the bottom right hand corner where you have to tap to un-maximise the window. Have you seen Macuco (I think it's called) which is a Qt webkit app which masquerades as an iPhone browser? Does that work any better for e.g. Gmail? Cheers, Simon ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Developers Guide
Hi Keywan, Keywan Najafi Tonekaboni wrote: is there beside the Wike a Maemo 5 Developer Guide? http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo_5_Developer_Guide A lot of pages are still empty in this guide Which pages are empty, specifically? The goal is to have the developer documentation in the wiki. If it needs improving, then we can do it. Is there a start point which guide me to all relevant information? http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation I tried the wiki and forum nokia... Forum Nokia also has some useful information - especially pertaining to widget style guides, UI guidelines and such. Cheers, Dave. -- maemo.org docsmaster Email: dne...@maemo.org Jabber: bo...@jabber.org ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: mafw-lasftm: installed, configured, restarted the device, but plugin is not started
Hi, 2009/12/8 Claudio Saavedra csaave...@igalia.com: I noticed that the postinst script was missing the debhelper token used by dh_installxsession to plug its magic. Now the Xsession script should be installed properly. I pushed a new package to the autobuilder queue already. thank you so much Claudio! p.s: I was thinking about writing a very simple GUI in Python/Gtk to let the user enter his username and password, generate the md5sum automatically and create the .mafw-lastfm, do you think this could be useful? If you're already working on it I won't start working on it. -- Andrea Grandi email: a.grandi [AT] gmail [DOT] com website: http://www.andreagrandi.it PGP Key: http://www.andreagrandi.it/pgp_key.asc ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: mafw-lasftm: installed, configured, restarted the device, but plugin is not started
El mar, 08-12-2009 a las 18:30 +0100, Andrea Grandi escribió: p.s: I was thinking about writing a very simple GUI in Python/Gtk to let the user enter his username and password, generate the md5sum automatically and create the .mafw-lastfm, do you think this could be useful? If you're already working on it I won't start working on it. There is already a control panel applet for this since 0.0.2. Claudio ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: mafw-lasftm: installed, configured, restarted the device, but plugin is not started
Hi, 2009/12/8 Claudio Saavedra csaave...@igalia.com: El mar, 08-12-2009 a las 18:30 +0100, Andrea Grandi escribió: p.s: I was thinking about writing a very simple GUI in Python/Gtk to let the user enter his username and password, generate the md5sum automatically and create the .mafw-lastfm, do you think this could be useful? If you're already working on it I won't start working on it. There is already a control panel applet for this since 0.0.2. doh! I created the file by hand :\ Really didn't know anything about it, sorry. Ok, I'll test the incoming version and maybe I'll write a little blog post to let the people know about it and how it works. Thanks again, -- Andrea Grandi email: a.grandi [AT] gmail [DOT] com website: http://www.andreagrandi.it PGP Key: http://www.andreagrandi.it/pgp_key.asc ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: mafw-lasftm: installed, configured, restarted the device, but plugin is not started
On Tuesday 08 December 2009 17:23:15 Claudio Saavedra wrote: I noticed that the postinst script was missing the debhelper token used by dh_installxsession to plug its magic. Now the Xsession script should be installed properly. What is dh_installxsession? I can't find any documentation on it. Probably looking in the wrong place! Graham ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: mafw-lasftm: installed, configured, restarted the device, but plugin is not started
Hi, 2009/12/8 Claudio Saavedra csaave...@igalia.com: I pushed a new package to the autobuilder queue already. I'm testing the new package right now. After installing it I had to start it manually from N900 terminal, but it's working because last.fm website is displaying in realtime what I'm listening to. A couple of question now: 1) How can I start it automatically without having to start it manually? 2) If I'm listening to some music but I don't have any connection at the moment, are the tracks queued to be scrobbled once I get an Internet connection? Thanks, -- Andrea Grandi email: a.grandi [AT] gmail [DOT] com website: http://www.andreagrandi.it PGP Key: http://www.andreagrandi.it/pgp_key.asc ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: mafw-lasftm: installed, configured, restarted the device, but plugin is not started
El mar, 08-12-2009 a las 20:52 +0100, Andrea Grandi escribió: Hi, 2009/12/8 Claudio Saavedra csaave...@igalia.com: I pushed a new package to the autobuilder queue already. I'm testing the new package right now. After installing it I had to start it manually from N900 terminal Well, the debian prerm and postinst scripts should be taking care of restarting the daemon during an upgrade, so this should be working automatically. but it's working because last.fm website is displaying in realtime what I'm listening to. A couple of question now: 1) How can I start it automatically without having to start it manually? It should do already, after installation, and on the session start (after the X session is ready). 2) If I'm listening to some music but I don't have any connection at the moment, are the tracks queued to be scrobbled once I get an Internet connection? Yes, tracks are queued. Once there is a connection available, the queue is flushed and the tracks are sent to last.fm. This doesn't happen immediately after the connection is available, though, but only when you start listening again. This could be improved. Another limitation is that the queue is not serialized, so if the process is terminated for any reason, the queue will be emptied. This is also important to fix. Claudio ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: mafw-lasftm: installed, configured, restarted the device, but plugin is not started
El mar, 08-12-2009 a las 17:50 +, Graham Cobb escribió: On Tuesday 08 December 2009 17:23:15 Claudio Saavedra wrote: I noticed that the postinst script was missing the debhelper token used by dh_installxsession to plug its magic. Now the Xsession script should be installed properly. What is dh_installxsession? I can't find any documentation on it. Probably looking in the wrong place! It's part of upstart-dev. I don't know where it's documented, though. I simply looked at hildon-desktop and some other modules' packages. Claudio ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: mafw-lasftm: installed, configured, restarted the device, but plugin is not started
Hi, 2009/12/8 Claudio Saavedra csaave...@igalia.com: 1) How can I start it automatically without having to start it manually? It should do already, after installation, and on the session start (after the X session is ready). it didn't after installation, but it did after a device restart Yes, tracks are queued. Once there is a connection available, the queue is flushed and the tracks are sent to last.fm. This doesn't happen immediately after the connection is available, though, but only when you start listening again. This could be improved. yes, I've noticed looking in the terminal debug messages that it keeps doubling the time of retry. It could just check for internet connection every 60 or 120 seconds (maybe configurable by user). Another limitation is that the queue is not serialized, so if the process is terminated for any reason, the queue will be emptied. This is also important to fix. I don't know how much data you have to save for every song scrobbled, but what about sqlite? p.s: in the configuration dialog, before launching the GUI, the icon is missing. -- Andrea Grandi email: a.grandi [AT] gmail [DOT] com website: http://www.andreagrandi.it PGP Key: http://www.andreagrandi.it/pgp_key.asc ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: mafw-lasftm: installed, configured, restarted the device, but plugin is not started
Hi, another idea: what about displaying Listening with Nokia N900 instead of Listening with mafw-lastfm ? -- Andrea Grandi email: a.grandi [AT] gmail [DOT] com website: http://www.andreagrandi.it PGP Key: http://www.andreagrandi.it/pgp_key.asc ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Any new information on Developer Device Program?
On Thu, Dec 03, 2009 at 01:21:28PM +0100, ds wrote: Christmas is approaching, and to me it is absolutly not transparent, what happend to a N900 Developer Device Program. Today I received an email from the N900 Developer Device Program saying that it is finally in stock and can be ordered. Marius Gedminas -- Any time somebody tells you that you shouldn't do something because it's unprofessional, you know that they've run out of real arguments. -- Joel Spolski signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Any new information on Developer Device Program?
Hi, 2009/12/8 Marius Gedminas mar...@pov.lt: Today I received an email from the N900 Developer Device Program saying that it is finally in stock and can be ordered. me too, I ordered it since they wrote to order it before the 21 of december. -- Andrea Grandi email: a.grandi [AT] gmail [DOT] com website: http://www.andreagrandi.it PGP Key: http://www.andreagrandi.it/pgp_key.asc ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Promoting Diablo packages to extras-devel?
On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 2:29 PM, Ed Bartosh bart...@gmail.com wrote: There is no extras-testing for Diablo. It exists only for Fremantle. However you can promote Diablo packages from extras-devel directly to Extras using Maemo Extras promoter [1]. [1] https://garage.maemo.org/promoter/diablo Thanks, that did the trick. I'll take this opportunity to pimp penguinreader (now installable from extras), which provides a finger-friendly RSS experience in conjunction with PenguinTV (which does the aggregation alright, but reading is not a nice experience). http://gitorious.org/penguinreader/pages/Home -- Ville M. Vainio http://tinyurl.com/vainio ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Virtual Keyboard Sources
Hello, I'm not very happy with N900 virtual keyboard and would like to tweak it a bit. I have already read Extending Hildon Input Methods guide, it is helpful, though rather than writing a plugin from scratch I would like to take a look on the current code first. I couldn't find in http://maemo.gitorious.org, is this a right place? -- Sergey ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Command line apps Extras
Valerio Valerio wrote: http://maemo.org/community/brainstorm/view/command_line_applications_and_extras/ [2] - http://maemo.org/community/brainstorm/view/ovi_maps_improvement_suggestions How do I vote now? I am logged in but I only see the thumbs up/down near the top instead of next to each proposed solution as it was earlier. A. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: overlaid buttons
On Tue, Dec 08, 2009 at 01:53:03AM -0600, kyle cronan wrote: The browser (when you're in full screen) and the media player (when you're browsing media) both have a little button in the bottom right hand corner of the screen that is overlaid over the main window content. How can I do this in my application with Hildon and GTK? I was under the impression that GTK doesn't support overlapping widgets. There's a package called hildon-extras that implements this kind of widget. It's called HeFullscreenButton, IIRC. Marius Gedminas -- I've been in the sun for a week. I took the bold step of leaving my laptop at home. I found only 4K messages pending when I returned. -- Keith Packard signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Command line apps Extras
Hi, On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 9:53 PM, Andrea Borgia and...@borgia.bo.it wrote: Valerio Valerio wrote: http://maemo.org/community/brainstorm/view/command_line_applications_and_extras/ [2] - http://maemo.org/community/brainstorm/view/ovi_maps_improvement_suggestions How do I vote now? I am logged in but I only see the thumbs up/down near the top instead of next to each proposed solution as it was earlier. It seems that the proposals need to be voted to get in the under consideration queue, and only there you can vote in the solutions. Best regards, -- Valério Valério http://www.valeriovalerio.org A. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Cannot access package page
Hi, I uploaded a package yesterday and had it build correctly and get added to extra-devel. I can download and install the package to my scratchbox installation but when I try to access the page on maemo.org I get an error. I've been regularly trying all day but the error continues to appear. Other packages that were built around the same time are accessible. The package page is http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_extras-devel_free_armel/webtexter/0.5/ And the error is *Fatal error*: Maximum execution time of 30 seconds exceeded in * /mnt/netapp/pear/midcom/lib/org/maemo/packages/handler/repository/repository.php * on line *542 *There is a bug raised about this but I cannot see any workaround etc. I want to push the package to extra-testing but can't because of this bug. Is there any workaround for this? If I re-upload the app (after changing the version) would it help? Thom ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Any new information on Developer Device Program?
Hi me too, I ordered it since they wrote to order it before the 21 of december. ordered it from where? I looked around on forum.nokia.com and I have nothing related to N900 anywhere..maybe I missed something/some link Ian -- http://ianlawrence.info ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Developers Guide
ext Dave Neary wrote: I tried the wiki and forum nokia... Forum Nokia also has some useful information - especially pertaining to widget style guides, UI guidelines and such. In fact http://www.forum.nokia.com/Tools_Docs_and_Code/Documentation/Maemo.xhtml has many interesting docs For instance, Get Started with Maemo 5 http://www.forum.nokia.com/info/sw.nokia.com/id/0ea5ec64-2d35-4363-94c0-dd2560c6524b/Get_started_with_Maemo_5.html And even somewhere else http://wiki.forum.nokia.com/index.php/Qt_for_Maemo_Developers_Guide The question is how to link things properly so it's easy to find all things Maemo for developers. -- Quim Gil open source advocate Maemo Devices @ Nokia ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Developers Guide
Hi, Am Dienstag, den 08.12.2009, 18:28 +0100 schrieb Dave Neary: A lot of pages are still empty in this guide Which pages are empty, specifically? Ok, these pages seems to be just in the beginning. I read it in the first chapter several times, so I might got an impression of the Guide which isn't adequate. http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo_5_Developer_Guide/Development_Environment Maemo Eclipse Integration Maemo Programming Environments Maemo PC Connectivity Maemo SDK Virtual Images In these pages there is a string This is place holder for XY There is still some information, but it's unclear how reliable and complete it is. This might be a show-stopper, because this is a kind of first impression for new developers. Forum Nokia also has some useful information - especially pertaining to widget style guides, UI guidelines and such. I found them, but I missed some guided path through all of this documents... It's not that there is to less documentation, but it's (for me) a bit confusing. Thanks Quim for his hints, too. Keywan -- Keywan Najafi Tonekaboni li...@prometoys.net ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
