RE: 770 Java HW Acceleration (and JVM support)
Last I recall, access to the Java HW acceleration on-chip was a licensing issue between the three players in the equation (ARM, TI, Nokia). I would have thought ARM and TI would be a bit more motivated to make sure Nokia could make use of it on the 770, but then that's the altruist in me speaking. ;-) As for general Java VM support, you're looking at adding even more players (SunW, et al...), no? -JMills -- Jason Mills -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - - -- Virtual Appliance Partner Enablement Manager -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - - -- Course Developer Staff VMWorld 2006 Lab 3805 Course Developer Staff VMWorld 2007 Labs 56 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Luis Montes Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 10:20 PM To: Jason Monroe Martin Cc: maemo-developers@maemo.org Subject: Re: New release of Python2.5 for Maemo (r0.4-11) I was extremely disappointed when the 800 IT2007 came out and us 770 owners were left out. I had hoped that eventually Nokia would provide us a Java VM on 770 so I could do some development from the device. I'd still like to see that (especially considering the currently idle java acceleration on the chip), but it's good to have pymaemo to take on the road. Luis ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
RE: maemo through VMware
I can be your at-VMware contact, since I'm now directly focused on Virtual Appliances (i.e., prepackaged VMs etc...). By VMware support in this particular context, I read it as Virtual Appliance to run on top of VMware virtualization products and geared towards Maemo platform development -JMills (Nokia 770) -- Jason Mills -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - - -- Virtual Appliance Partner Enablement Manager -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - - -- Course Developer Staff VMWorld 2006 Lab 3805 Course Developer Staff VMWorld 2007 Labs 56 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 9:42 PM To: maemo-developers@maemo.org Subject: maemo through VMware It would be good to have al the maemo-through-VMware interested focused in a single direction. There is interest enough to make this happen in a reliable way but some coordination is needed. Nokia is not in the best position to lead this even if we support the idea and want to see it happening. The reason is that Nokia checks all the software released in their products and offers a guarantee on them. Perhaps we can circunvent rules (to be analyzed) but the default setting would imply that Nokia would be stamping a seal on a whole Ubuntu distribution (read hundreds of packages) which is totally out of the scope (and feasibility). We are happy seeing an official maemo release inside a VMware envelop. If it's proven to work and be regularly maintained and supported we would give it officious treatment. With identified and reliable speakers we could help having the new versions in good shape right after a new maemo release. It looks like all the ingredients are present already in the maemo community. With some images already out there, a placeholder like https://garage.maemo.org/projects/maemovmware/ https://garage.maemo.org/projects/maemovmware/ , contributors identified, some coordination and an agreed plan the VMware support present in the http://maemo.org/intro/roadmap.html http://maemo.org/intro/roadmap.html could be pushed forward with a (community) tag and our explicit backing. Quim ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
RE: [maemo-developers] VMWare Appliance (pCPU versus vCPU featureset mismatches)
I'll keep an eye on this issue especially with the possibility of lower end systems being resurrected to run a single or pair of small current-era virtual machines. -JMills -- Jason Mills -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - - -- Virtual Appliance Partner Enablement Manager VMTN Turner of Knobs and Pusher of Buttons -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - - -- Course Developer Staff VMWorld 2006 Lab 3805 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Kon Wilms Sent: Sat 27-Jan-07 11:19 To: Mathias Uebelacker Cc: maemo-developers@maemo.org Subject: Re: [maemo-developers] VMWare Appliance This is a kernel issue with Ubuntu 6.10 running on M, C3 and some other processors. I have a laptop with an M here. If I have some time this weekend I will try do a custom kernel as a boot option and hopefully that fixes it. This is because the 2.6.17-10-server kernel is compiled with HIGHMEM64G support, which requires PAE, but the Via C3 processor used on most Epias does not support PAE. You will have to use a kernel without HIGHMEM64G support (HIGHMEM4G will work, as will NOHIGHMEM). The same problem occurs on certain Pentium M CPUs. Most other CPUs since Pentium Pro support PAE. Cheers Kon On 1/27/07, Mathias Uebelacker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everybody, i try VMWare Appliance and after the installation and start the VMWare Player i get an error: unkown interrupt or fault at EIP xxx any ideas was went wrong. br Mathias ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
RE: [maemo-developers] VMWare Appliance for MAEMO 2.0?
It's on my list to do on my own time, but would be accomplished much faster if other folks in the community were to build it, and engaged myself or other VMware folks for assistance. -JMills -- Jason Mills -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Instructor, VMWorld 2006 Lab 3805 -- Securing and Monitoring VI3 Portal Project Manager / Administrator VMTN Turner of Knobs and Pusher of Buttons From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Marius Gedminas Sent: Wed 24-Jan-07 05:53 To: maemo-developers@maemo.org Subject: Re: [maemo-developers] VMWare Appliance for MAEMO 2.0? On Wed, Jan 24, 2007 at 01:33:19PM +0100, Luca Manganelli wrote: Since The VMWare appliance for maemo 3.0 is out, I wonder if there is a version for Maemo 2.0, it would be useful to check the compatibility of applications. Or someone can make a single VMWare appliance for both Maemo versions. It is posible to install the 2.1 SDK on Scratchbox 1.0 -- I've just done so, following the instructions on this page: http://syslog.movial.fi/archives/38-Scratchbox-Apophis-R4-released.html Marius Gedminas -- Sufficiently advanced incompetence is indistinguishable from malice. -- David Sawford ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
RE: [maemo-developers] VMware Appliance for MAEMO 2.0?
Multiple selections is already on the road-map. Hosting is a bit more complicated, since bandwidth isn't free. :-) Kon-- Feel free to follow up with me off-list if you have other questions. -JMills From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kon Wilms Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 12:44 PM To: Jason Mills; maemo-developers@maemo.org Subject: Re: [maemo-developers] VMWare Appliance for MAEMO 2.0? The 3.0 appliance has the scratchbox as a separate vmdk drive image which is mounted at boot. It is pretty easy to swap this out with a 2.0 vmdk image. If people want 2.0 I can certainly add it. I still have a 770 and a few apps recompiled for the 770 as it is. As for multiple versions.. I don't see the point in reinventing the wheel. Just add to the existing device - it has been customized beyond just the SDK installation, and regardless I am offering my time gratis. VMware would make this task a lot easier if they expanded the capability of their appliance hosting portal by allowing selections for multiple downloads ala configurations for a single appliance. Of course, hosting of the images would help as well :-) Cheers Kon On 1/24/07, Jason Mills [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's on my list to do on my own time, but would be accomplished much faster if other folks in the community were to build it, and engaged myself or other VMware folks for assistance. -JMills -- Jason Mills -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Instructor, VMWorld 2006 Lab 3805 -- Securing and Monitoring VI3 Portal Project Manager / Administrator VMTN Turner of Knobs and Pusher of Buttons From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Marius Gedminas Sent: Wed 24-Jan-07 05:53 To: maemo-developers@maemo.org Subject: Re: [maemo-developers] VMWare Appliance for MAEMO 2.0? On Wed, Jan 24, 2007 at 01:33:19PM +0100, Luca Manganelli wrote: Since The VMWare appliance for maemo 3.0 is out, I wonder if there is a version for Maemo 2.0, it would be useful to check the compatibility of applications. Or someone can make a single VMWare appliance for both Maemo versions. It is posible to install the 2.1 SDK on Scratchbox 1.0 -- I've just done so, following the instructions on this page: http://syslog.movial.fi/archives/38-Scratchbox-Apophis-R4-released.html Marius Gedminas -- Sufficiently advanced incompetence is indistinguishable from malice. -- David Sawford ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
RE: [maemo-developers] Modified initfs with onscreen boot menu
So, assuming you had the correct partitions set up on an RS-MMC/MMCmobile card beforehand... You -could- install the modified bootprompt initfs to the 770's flash -once-, and then ship releases of Sardine in such a manner that all you'd need to do is `dd` the various stages to high(er) numbered partitions on the card. Extra points to Nokia/Maemo.org if they add this loader code into the flasher application. ;-) Swap cards, and you can boot to Sardine. Swap them back, and you have your regular environment. ... And n'er the twain shall meet. (R. Kipling) As an added benefit, the flash memory blocks you're burning out by reflashing constantly are on the RS-MMC/MMCmobile card, and //NOT// on the board-mounted flash memory. :-) If my math is right, you'd need an RS-MMC/MMCmobile card of at least 256 MB. Street cost of these is negligible compared to the cost of the 770. That would give you: xxx12 MB (256,000,000 Bytes vs. 256 MB loss) P0 -DOS Partition Table Descriptior P1p* 48 MB Memory Card fs P2p 4 MB (Sardine initfs + scratch) P3p 128 MB rootfs+userfs P4E -DOS Extended Partition Table Descriptor P5e64 MB swapfs 256 MB Anything above that point would be partition 6 (extended), and non of the OS's business. :-) -JMills From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Carlos Guerreiro Sent: Mon 21-Aug-06 12:58 To: Marius Vollmer Cc: maemo-dev List; ext Frantisek Dufka Subject: Re: [maemo-developers] Modified initfs with onscreen boot menu Marius Vollmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Also, I already have a small UI improvement suggestion: what about always showing the boot menu, not only when you hit the MENU key? I tend to miss the window where the key needs to be pressed all the time. Maybe the menu could be shown when the root device is ask? Here is a small patch to implement this. --- bootmenu.sh 2006-08-13 10:50:06.0 +0300 +++ bootmenu-ask.sh 2006-08-21 18:17:30.0 +0300 @@ -110,8 +110,8 @@ i=$((i+1)) done -#show onscreeen menu if menu key was pressed -if [ $HWKEYSTATE = $KEY_MENU ] ; then +#show onscreeen menu if menu key was pressed or when the root device is ask +if [ $HWKEYSTATE = $KEY_MENU -o $default_root = ask ] ; then menu_init menu_redraw menu_loop Frantisek, Marius, that's fantastic work! This is a key piece of work to enable people to try out and follow up Sardine on the 770 without having to give up using it. I'm going to try it out ASAP :-) ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
RE: [maemo-developers] Apt-got my way into a reboot loop??
newp... I completed them on local (physical) console. It's tough to reproduce again, since I can't easily re-brick my '770. Sorry, -JMills -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Michael Steinmetz Sent: Fri 21-Jul-06 11:29 To: maemo-dev List Subject: Re: [maemo-developers] Apt-got my way into a reboot loop?? Also sprach Jason Mills ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): * Use `flasher` to -enable- RD mode * Use `flasher` to -disable- the watchdog timers (IIRC I disabled two of them) * Allow the N770 to boot normally * Bring up your 802.11b/g network * Spawn an xterm window * Gain root * Complete the apt-get upgrade Could anybody verify this procedure? I could not, but I don't know exactly which watchdog timers you mentioned. (I used: --set-rd-flags=no-lifeguard-reset,no-usb-timeout, but still any attempt to dpkg --configure maemo-launcher makes the X unusable. Did you do the repairing steps over ssh? Cheers, Michael ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
RE: [maemo-developers] VMware image for development environment
Unless there are strenuous objections, I'd be happy to build out the Browser Appliance VM with relevant Nokia 770 / Scratchbox tools as a starting point. -JMills (builder of BAVM 1.0.0) -- Jason Mills -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Portal Project Manager / Administrator VMTN Turner of Knobs and Pusher of Buttons -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Armin M. Warda Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 11:53 AM To: maemo-developers@maemo.org Subject: Re: [maemo-developers] VMware image for development environment On Wed, Jul 19, 2006 at 11:28:05AM -0400, T L Holaday wrote: Would anyone besides me be interested in a virtual machine with the Maemo development environment installed and configured? Yes, such a Virtual Appliance would be of great use. Are you going to build it, or are you asking for someone to build it? See how to showcase a virtual appliance on VMware's VMTN Site: http://www.vmware.com/vmtn/appliances/overview.html#4 regards, Armin. -- --- May the Source be with you! Linux. --- --- secure eMail: http://www.gnupg.de/ --- --- My Homepage http://armin-warda.de/ --- ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
RE: [maemo-developers] Apt-got my way into a reboot loop??
I bricked my N770 temporarily this way over the weekend. What ends up happening is one of the watchdog timers fails to fire on-time due to cpu load (not sure what specific process was unhappy). To fix it (without data loss): * Use `flasher` to -enable- RD mode * Use `flasher` to -disable- the watchdog timers (IIRC I disabled two of them) * Allow the N770 to boot normally * Bring up your 802.11b/g network * Spawn an xterm window * Gain root * Complete the apt-get upgrade Two packages relating to gnome vfs2.0 refuse to upgrade, everything else seems to be happy. I'd started with the IT 2006 released build, very few customizations. One note... Opera seems to be a bit misbehaved after apt-get upgrade ... not sure why yet, but it doesn't play well with Microsoft's light OWA interface anymore. -JMills -- Jason Mills -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Portal Project Manager / Administrator VMTN Turner of Knobs and Pusher of Buttons -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Steinmetz Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 9:34 AM To: maemo-dev List Subject: Re: [maemo-developers] Apt-got my way into a reboot loop?? Also sprach Thanos Panousis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Various packages needed upgrading. Only to stop during mid-flight, cause the nokia decided to reboot. And from then on, constantly rebooting. I had exactly the same problem yesterday. (The same reflash, install only xterm and ssh, apt-get upgrade -- continuos reboot cycle.) The first reboot happened when upgrading maemo-launcher. Since my device was usable for a few seconds after starting X, I was able to rename /etc/init.d/minireboot. That way the Nokia stayed awake and was accessible via WLAN/ssh even after the screen went dead. But I didn't find the error... Cheers, Michael ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
RE: [maemo-developers] VMware image for development environment
I should clarify... even if it is a Virtual Appliance (to run on top of VMware vPlatform products) it will still have the QEMU runtime emulator tied to scratchbox. -JMills -Original Message- From: Andrew Barr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 3:57 PM To: maemo-developers@maemo.org Cc: Jason Mills; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [maemo-developers] VMware image for development environment On Wednesday 19 July 2006 18:49, Jason Mills wrote: Unless there are strenuous objections, I'd be happy to build out the Browser Appliance VM with relevant Nokia 770 / Scratchbox tools as a starting point. -JMills (builder of BAVM 1.0.0) I've got one up and (almost) running that is based on Debian sarge and the Maemo 2.0 SDK. Scratchbox is installing now, as I type this. It is, however, based on QEMU and not VMware. It shouldn't be too hard to convert it if you want VMware, though. Andrew Barr ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
RE: [maemo-developers] strange thin crack in hardware... see fotos
Photos of the crack on mine, taken Jan 31 2006, a bit more than 30 days after purchasing it. http://virtual.twocansandsomestring.net/N770/Local-Pictures/ That's the most common location (between connectors). -JMills -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Philip Van Hoof Sent: Sat 15-Jul-06 01:18 To: Collin R. Mulliner Cc: maemo devel Subject: Re: [maemo-developers] strange thin crack in hardware... see fotos On Sat, 2006-07-15 at 01:33 +0200, Collin R. Mulliner wrote: check out: http://www.mulliner.org/nokia770/pool/fotos/broken_hw/ ..it shows my device with a thin crack on the connector panel at the lower part of the device. The device still works 100% as far as I can tell. I can't recall dropping my device other then once from about 15cm to the carpet (this was some weeks ago). Today I discovered the strange crack which seems to go right through the connector panel. Check out the 4 fotos I made. Funny. I have exactly the same crack. I never dropped my device. I thought it was because I kept the device in my laptop bag between various other objects like adaptors and stuff -- Philip Van Hoof, software developer at x-tend home: me at pvanhoof dot be gnome: pvanhoof at gnome dot org work: vanhoof at x-tend dot be http://www.pvanhoof.be - http://www.x-tend.be ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
RE: [maemo-developers] strange thin crack in hardware... see fotos
A huge number of us have cracks, some people had them within hours or days of buying their 770. See the muliple threads on http://www.InternetTabletTalk.com/ forums. -JMills. Estonian build, USB to headphone crack, no drops. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Andrew Barr Sent: Fri 14-Jul-06 16:44 To: maemo-developers@maemo.org Subject: Re: [maemo-developers] strange thin crack in hardware... see fotos On Friday 14 July 2006 19:33, Collin R. Mulliner wrote: check out: http://www.mulliner.org/nokia770/pool/fotos/broken_hw/ ..it shows my device with a thin crack on the connector panel at the lower part of the device. The device still works 100% as far as I can tell. I can't recall dropping my device other then once from about 15cm to the carpet (this was some weeks ago). Today I discovered the strange crack which seems to go right through the connector panel. Check out the 4 fotos I made. I have a similar crack in my device. It's been there for a few months now and it's not gotten worse. I don't recall if I dropped it or not. I'll post some photos as well if anyone cares to see it. -- Andrew Barr | http://www.oakcourt.dyndns.org/~andrew/ | GPG: 0xAD9AE76A Those who would trade liberty for security deserve neither. -- B. Franklin ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
RE: [maemo-developers] Fwd: Using Flasher Utility under VMWare
Vince- I'll have to re-test this, but it should work just fine. -JMills (the one who built the VMware BAVM) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of VinceSent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 11:16 PMTo: maemo-developers@maemo.orgSubject: [maemo-developers] Fwd: Using Flasher Utility under VMWare Hello, I am trying to get a development space setup for maemo under vmware. I want to be able to flash the root file system to my Nokia 770. I have the flasher utility, and I have been able to set the r/d flag. The nokia is being seen by linux under vmware. When I try to flash a new rootfs it says:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/nokia770# ./flasher -r Maemo_Dev_Platform_rootfs_v1.1.jffs2 -f -RUSB device found found at bus 001, device address 008Found board Nokia 770 (F5)NOLO version 0.9.0Sending and flashing rootfs image (33993 kB)...Write failed after 0 bytesusb_bulk_write: Connection timed out--I'm running Ubuntu Breezy under VMware Server. To get linux talking with the Nokia I had to go to VM - Removable Devices - USB 1 - Nokia Mobile Phones USB DeviceAny tips to getting this working? or is there any way to use the windows flasher to flash a new rootfs?Thanks! ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
RE: [maemo-developers] Question about how mmc is auto-mounted inNokia 770
Kimmo- While we're back on this topic... What magic is required to get an RS-MMC card and partition on the card recognized as blessed by the File Browser amd automounter? It seems to be something more than just having a partition of type XYZ (matching /etc/fstab and osso-mmc-mount / unmount scripts) which is marked clean. -JMills From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Kimmo Hämäläinen Sent: Tue 18-Apr-06 03:44 To: ext Peter K.Lee Cc: maemo-developers@maemo.org Subject: Re: [maemo-developers] Question about how mmc is auto-mounted inNokia 770 On Sun, 2006-04-16 at 09:33, ext Peter K.Lee wrote: Well, hopefully somebody can enlighten me on how this all truly works! There is indeed a daemon named ke-recv that does the job. Its source code is not published (at least yet). However, maybe you can do something by just editing /usr/sbin/osso-mmc-mount.sh and /usr/sbin/osso-mmc-umount.sh shell scripts. They are executed (as the 'user' user) when MMC should be mounted/unmounted. BR; Kimmo Cheers, -Peter ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
[maemo-developers] RE: [maemo-announce] maemo mistral roadmap
Phew... with technology additions like Telepathy and Farsight, I had to wonder for a moment if perhaps this was an April Fool's joke gone awry due to a delivery delay. :-) Glad to see you've had a chance to put together a roadmap for public consumption, people have been anxious for it! -JMills -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of team maemo Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 4:58 AM To: maemo-developers@maemo.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [maemo-announce] maemo mistral roadmap Hello, The maemo mistral (v2.0) roadmap is available at http://maemo.org/platform/docs/roadmap.html Please send all comments, questions, feedback to the dev list. -maemo team ___ maemo-announce mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-announce ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
RE: [maemo-developers] Maemo Alarm/Notifier Interface
A few items: 0) The RTC subsystem is served off a chip known as Retu. Most of the ASICs on the Nokia 770 board seem to have nice nordic names to them. :-) 1) The RTC subsystem only supports one future alarm event, and that event may not be more than 24h59m from now. Maximum alarm granularity is +/-1 minute or so. 2) The actual definition of now is a bit arbitrary, because of how the RTC synchronization works. 3) There is a functional, albeit spartan CLI utility already available to talk to the RTC subsystem, -and- to set/check the alarm. /mnt/initfs/usr/bin/retutime 4) The osso_alarm and osso_notifier daemons are missing at least from the 2005.51 Nokia build. No bug is currently filed against this, and I haven't had a chance to file one yet. I think, though am not 100% sure, that these two daemons are required in order to fetch the actual alarm signal from the RTC subsystem. -JMills ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
RE: [maemo-developers] Integration with the backup tool
Simon- After my post on the same subject a while back, I went and re-read that specific portion of the documentation which you referenced as well. Yes, it's a good starting point... but it is missing all of the SHOULD and MUST verbiage of a platform-wide standard (such as an RFC, or POSIX standard). Getting a Built for Maemo sticker (yes, I know, doesn't exist) for your application should include things like proper User Interface / Application Programming Interface / Platform Programming Interface integration... which will only happen if the verbiage is strong enough to deter incomplete implementations. I think (though I can't speak for Philip directly) that the request was for a more strongly-worded and detailed backup specification, including both run-state (i.e., pause-to-disk) and saved-state (backup/restore) of both the installed application's user data /and/ the application binary/libraries themselves. -JMills From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Simon Budig Sent: Sun 08-Jan-06 13:34 To: maemo-developers@maemo.org Subject: Re: [maemo-developers] Integration with the backup tool Philip Van Hoof ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: It would be nice if it would be possible to integrate with the backup software of the Nokia. That way, in case an upgrade of the device is a necessity, the user wouldn't have to run all the backup softwares of all the ISV's that created softwares for his mobility solution. In stead, using just one tool would suffice: The Nokia tool. As all the ISV's had a standard to implement backups of the application state. see http://maemo.org/platform/docs/tutorials/Maemo_tutorial.html#backup . I have not tested this but if it doesn't work it is a bug... :) Bye, Simon -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://simon.budig.de/ ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
RE: [maemo-developers] Huge bundle O' year-end questions
Paul- Thanks for the quick replies, I'll take a look at the relevant bits of kernel source. Thanks also for the explanation on the cache-hit/cache-miss and memory fragmentation issues, definitely food for thought. Would you mind if I bounced the summarized version of your original reply off you for review and possible addition to the Developer FAQ? -JMills From: Paul Mundt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sat 31-Dec-05 04:04 To: Jason Mills Cc: maemo-developers@maemo.org Subject: Re: [maemo-developers] Huge bundle O' year-end questions On Sat, Dec 31, 2005 at 02:53:19AM -0800, Jason Mills wrote: OMAP1710: * How does one get access to the hardware Random Number Generator? (Is that what /dev/urandom is pinned to?) Via the RNG driver. Look at drivers/char/hw_random.c as well as omap16xx-rng.c if you want to know how it's handled. ... deletia ... ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
