Re: maemo reference manual

[Marco Solari]

Short of ink or paper? ;-)

Luo Cheng ha scritto:
> Hi,
>
> Is there any way to get a printed version of 4.1 manual instead of PDF?
>
> regards
> Cheng
>
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R: R: R: Firefox does not render 'font-family' style attribute...

[Marco Solari]

Yesterday I did install FBReader (the ebook reader application), and it did
the trick: it installs a bunch of nice fonts; I didn't dig into licensing
details, but now I have a number of nice fonts, on my N800:
  - Aaroni CLM
  - David CLM
  - DeviceSymbols
  - Drugulin CLM
  - Ellinia CLM
  - Frank Ruehl CLM
  - MHeiGB18030C-Medium
  - Miriam CLM
  - Miriam Mono CLM
  - Monospace
  - Nachlieli CLM
  - NewCourier
  - NewTimes
  - Nokia Sans
  - Nokia Sans Cn
  - Nokia Smiley
  - Sans
  - Serif
  - SwissA
  - Yehuda CLM

    Marco Solari
 



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Oggetto: Re: R: R: Firefox does not render 'font-family' style attribute...


You can't distribute them prepackaged. That's why some distributions have
dummy scripts which download and install the MS fonts from their site.


On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 1:01 AM, Andrew Zabolotny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


From Thu, 2 Oct 2008 16:22:31 +0200

"Marco Solari" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> Thanks...
> Well, I suppose if I do not explicitly fall back, the browser will
do,
> right? ;-)
> But, there is no font available to be installed on the tablet?

If you want more fonts, you may try installing the ttf-dejavu
package.
It does not contain "arial" or "times", but contains a serif, a
sans-serif and a sans-serif mono font (the whole font family is
called
DejaVu).

For Microsoft fonts, it should be possible to prepare a package from
the so-called "Microsoft Web Fonts" which are kind of semi-free, but
one must look first into their license very carefully, if it's
allowed
to re-distribute the repackaged fonts.

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R: Can't force display light to stay on forever?

[Marco Solari]

Thanks! It worked like a charm ;-)
Now the limit is 480 minutes (8 hours), which I suppose is quite a long
time... ;-)
Cheers.

Marco



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A: Marco Solari
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Oggetto: Re: Can't force display light to stay on forever?


On Oct 2, 2008, at 9:31 AM, Marco Solari wrote:

> Using the control panel (at least in OS2008) it is not possible to 
> force the display light to stay on forever (the maximum allowable time 
> is 30 seconds).
> Is there some way to force it on, with some '/dev' juggling ? I would 
> like to use the tablet to show the text transcription of a conference 
> to hearing impaired people, so if it gets dark after 30 seconds it 
> would be a problem... ;-). I can assume the tablet will be fully 
> charged, when the conference starts...
> Thanks everybody for any suggestion.

http://maemo.org/downloads/product/OS2008/moredimmingoptions/

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R: R: Firefox does not render 'font-family' style attribute...

[Marco Solari]

Thanks...
Well, I suppose if I do not explicitly fall back, the browser will do,
right? ;-)
But, there is no font available to be installed on the tablet?

Marco
 



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Oggetto: Re: R: Firefox does not render 'font-family' style attribute...


You can at least fall back to generic fonts like:

style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"

Bundyo


On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 4:46 PM, Marco Solari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Nokia tablets do not contain those fonts or any replacements.

Yup :-(
Thanks...

   Marco



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Oggetto: Re: Firefox does not render 'font-family' style
attribute...

On Thursday 02 of October 2008 15:25:00 Marco Solari wrote:
> Firefox on Diablo on my N800 does not render 'font-family' style
> attribute..
> This html code is rendered with just one font:

>   Arial
>   Verdana
>   Times
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R: Firefox does not render 'font-family' style attribute...

[Marco Solari]

> Nokia tablets do not contain those fonts or any replacements.

Yup :-(
Thanks... 

Marco



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Oggetto: Re: Firefox does not render 'font-family' style attribute...

On Thursday 02 of October 2008 15:25:00 Marco Solari wrote:
> Firefox on Diablo on my N800 does not render 'font-family' style 
> attribute..
> This html code is rendered with just one font:

>   Arial
>   Verdana
>   Times
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Can't force display light to stay on forever?

[Marco Solari]

Using the control panel (at least in OS2008) it is not possible to force the
display light to stay on forever (the maximum allowable time is 30 seconds).
Is there some way to force it on, with some '/dev' juggling ? I would like
to use the tablet to show the text transcription of a conference to hearing
impaired people, so if it gets dark after 30 seconds it would be a
problem... ;-). I can assume the tablet will be fully charged, when the
conference starts...
Thanks everybody for any suggestion.

    Marco Solari


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Firefox does not render 'font-family' style attribute...

[Marco Solari]

Firefox on Diablo on my N800 does not render 'font-family' style
attribute...
This html code is rendered with just one font:


 
  Arial
  Verdana
  Times
 


Firefox 3.03 on my desktop does correctly renders the different fonts, of
course.
My useragent.vendor string is "Firefox/3.0a1 Tablet browser 0.3.7
RX-34+RX-44+RX-48_DIABLO_4.2008.36-5".
I did just upgrade to OS2008 using the
"Nokia_Internet_Tablet_Software_Update_Wizard" application form a windoze
client.
What do I miss? Do I need to install some additional font package?
Or should I post a bug?
Thanks in advance.

Marco Solari


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A web application working on _and_ off line ?

[Marco Solari]

I'm facing a problem which I suppose to be quite common in the internet
tablets world, but I don't know if and how it has been addressed and
solved... It's not specific to Maemo, but I'm sure many people here did
already face a similar issue...: -)

I have to design a presentation system, which, at time T1, being on-line,
loads some data (for example some patient's case history) from a server's
database on the internet; then, at time T2, being possibly off-line,
presents the data to the user (for example a nurse at the patient's place),
who could update this data, and finally, at time T3, again on-line, the
system should pour out the data back to the server's database.

I suppose I should use something like httpd and sqlite on the nokia device,
and some sort of (xml-synchronization...

Please ignore this post if You think it's too off topic on this list... :-(
Thanks for your attention.

Marco Solari


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R: One question about speech2text poor performance

[Marco Solari]

I would like to ask Nokia folks ... Do You think they read this list ? Is
there a more specific 'nokia-developers' list ?

Marco Solari
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Oggetto: Re: One question about speech2text poor performance

I'd ask this of the Nokia folks: what do you guys use in the cell phones?
I'm sure it is a commercial package, but it would be interesting to know.

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One question about speech2text poor performance

[Marco Solari]

Hi!
I have a question about the voice recognition problem on the Nokia platform,
hoping it's not too off-topic...
I see on this platform some voice recognition tool is available, but it's
extremely resource demanding, slow and performs with quite a low success
percentage... I'm asking myself how comes today quite every low-end phone is
capable to recognize uttered names by a not-trained user, with 90% success
rate (I would estimate); I believe Nokia platform sports quite higher
hardware (CPU/RAM) than thos pohones...
The question is: is the task of recognizing a small set of utterances
basically different from the task of recognizing spoken words out of a
bigger dictionary (I limit the problem to single words, not considering the
spoken speech...), or the commercial phones name-recognition software is
really more advanced than open source tools we use ?
Thanks in advance for your attention.

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R: Details on SVG support status on N810 browser ?

[Marco Solari]

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Inviato: mercoledì 7 novembre 2007 10.21
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Cc: maemo-developers@maemo.org
Oggetto: Re: Details on SVG support status on N810 browser ?



On 06/11/2007, vicente garcia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

I preffer SVG support than javascript or flash support :P

Without jokes, I think to support SVG is important
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Hi,

currently SVG support is disabled but you can build your own version of
microb-engine which supports SVG.

Make sure you have lot's of free space. If I remember correctly, building
microb-engine needs something like 1.7GB. I'm not joking.

First you need to build libidl-dev:
svn co https://garage.maemo.org/svn/browser/mozilla/trunk/libidl libidl
cd libidl
dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -uc -us -tc | tee libidl-build.log
cd ..
fakeroot dpkg -i libidl-dev*.deb

If you get problems with building libidl, because you lack flex then read
this bug report:
http://bugzilla.scratchbox.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=310
 

To build microb-engine you need to have extras repository available in your
sdk and you need to install libcairo2-dev package. Then you need also bc
package which wasn't available in the maemo repositories last time checked,
though I haven't checked latest sdk releases.

fakeroot apt-get install libcairo2-dev
fakeroot dpkg -i bc-package-name.deb # you should be able to take latest
from stable or unstable debian, though most probably you need to rebuild it
svn co https://garage.maemo.org/svn/browser/mozilla/trunk/microb-engine
microb-engine
cd microb-engine/microb-engine
ADD_OPTIONS="--enable-oji" DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS="parallel svgport syscairo"
dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -uc -us -tc | tee ../microb-engine-build.log

Then copy your microb-engine package to mmc and install it to the device,
before installing it to the device you need to install libcairo2 from
maemo-extras repository.

I have been testing this with maemo 3.x releases so it might be that 4.0
have some issues fixed. I have tried this with N800 not N810.

I think it would be nice if someone could upload optional SVG enabled
version of the browser to maemo-extras or somewhere. Maybe browser team
could do that?

Btw, if you have started browser with old (non-SVG enabled) backend, you
need to remove compreg.dat file:
http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-developers/2007-September/011848.html

Sincerely,
-- 
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Thanks for Your answers!
Thanks for the build suggestions, but I need 'official' browser support for
SVG; I mean, I need the _users_ of the tablet - as it is when it leaves the
factory - to be able to enjoy my SVG-dependent content ... ;-)

Regards,

Marcos
marcosolari at gmail dot com


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R: Details on SVG support status on N810 browser ?

[Marco Solari]

Thanks ! I'm eager to read that paper but currently maemo garage times-out
... :-(

Marco



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Oggetto: Re: Details on SVG support status on N810 browser ?

I'm sorry, I think this link will interest you so much:

http://browser.garage.maemo.org/docs/browser_paper.html#s4.4
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Details on SVG support status on N810 browser ?

[Marco Solari]

Hi,
reading specs for N810 I see "SVG support". Can anyone point me to a "N810
SVG support status" page, with some more details ?
Thanks in advance, everybody.

Marco


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Screen blanking and more ...

[Marco Solari]

Hi,
quite newbe, here, sorry for the possibly lame - and perhaps off-topic -
questions .. :-| I would like to setup the tablet to exclusively run a web
application; it will be line powered all the time long; the questions:
 - how do I automatically let the browser start, on boot ?
 - how do I force the browser to automatically start in fullscreen mode ?
 - how do I stop screen blanking and system suspend ? (in control panel
there are no 'never' options ...)
 - can I let user close the browser via an html/js control ?
 - how do I shutdown the system when browser has closed ?

Thanks in advance for Your attention; and sorry if some similar topic was
already discussed, but I really couldn't find it.. ;-(

 - Marcos

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R: R: Some weird questions about speech2text, text2speech, GPS ...

[Marco Solari]

Thanks. I would say actually flite performance is quite superior, at least
for English language ...

Marco Solari
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Inviato: giovedì 2 agosto 2007 15.23
A: ext kender
Cc: Marco Solari; maemo-developers@maemo.org
Oggetto: Re: R: Some weird questions about speech2text, text2speech, GPS ...

Hi,

ext kender wrote:
> On 7/16/07, Marco Solari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Thanks ! It's just the kind of information I needed ... There is even 
>> some sample code I can use ...
>> Nothing about speech2text /text2speech ? ;-)
> 
> About text2speech there is flite[1].
> 
> [1] http://www.speech.cs.cmu.edu/flite/
> 
> http://users.tkk.fi/~tnikkila/maemo/flite/
> 
> There is a deb package somewhere (maemo mapper uses it), probably in 
> extra repository.

Espeak could also be one possibility:
http://espeak.sourceforge.net/


- Eero



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R: Some weird questions about speech2text, text2speech, GPS ...

[Marco Solari]

Hi, Julius,
Thanks a lot ! It's just the example I needed, as simple as possible ...
If we will succeed to put up some general _and_ useful utility which uses
the GPS data I will publish it here, for sure ...
Thanks again for Your attention, everybody !

Marco



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Oggetto: Re: Some weird questions about speech2text, text2speech, GPS ...

Julius Luukko wrote:
> gpsd is included in N800. Please see
> 
> http://maemo.org/development/documentation/how-tos/3-x/howto_connectiv
> ity_guide_bora.html 
> http://maemo.org/community/wiki/howtousegpsframeworkinos2007/
> http://gpsd.berlios.de/
> 
> Please note, however, that there is an open bug
> 
> https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1621
>

While triaging that bug I wrote a small test program. So, if you're
interested in pretty much the shortest possible example of using gpsd and
libgpsbt on maemo take a look at
https://garage.maemo.org/plugins/scmsvn/viewcvs.php/gpstest/?root=geoclue

You might also be interested in the geoinformation framework Geoclue (at
least for future projects):
  http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/GeoClue
  https://garage.maemo.org/projects/geoclue/

HTH,
  Jussi



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R: Some weird questions about speech2text, text2speech, GPS ...

[Marco Solari]

Thanks, David !!!
Thanks for Your answer and for Your work.
Unfortunately I'm very new on embedded platforms, so I suppose I will not be
very helpful, on a development point of view, in the short period ... ;-(
When You speak about "acoustic models", You mean "English acoustic models",
is it true ? Do some different language acoustic models exist ? Do Italian
language acoustic models exist ? If not, which do You think would be the
effort to put it up, in terms of time and knowledge ?
Thanks again !!!

Marco



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Da: David Huggins-Daines [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Inviato: lunedì 16 luglio 2007 16.00
A: Marco Solari
Cc: maemo-developers@maemo.org
Oggetto: Re: Some weird questions about speech2text, text2speech, GPS ...

Marco Solari wrote:
> I am currently evaluating the porting to the ARM architecture of 
> open-source projects 'rsynth' and 'festival' for text2speech, and 
> 'pockesphinx' for speech2text ...
Hi, I'm working on speech recognition for the N800.  Plans and status can be
found at http://lima.lti.cs.cmu.edu/mediawiki/PocketSphinx and
http://lima.lti.cs.cmu.edu/mediawiki/GStreamerSphinx

To summarize:

 * ALSA doesn't work very well so we need to use GStreamer for audio input
 * This is not actually very hard.  I'm working on a GStreamer plugin for
PocketSphinx.  Currently it is in "proof of concept" stage, i.e. it
recognizes speech but isn't configurable or stable, you can get it at
https://cmusphinx.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/cmusphinx/trunk/gst-pocketsphi
nx/
 * The N800 is a bit slower than I expected (slower than my first-generation
iPaq) so we will have to do some more tuning to get acceptable performance
for large-vocabulary tasks like dictation.  For simple commands it should be
just fine though.
 * I haven't put up acoustic models yet but will do so pretty soon.  The
ones included with PocketSphinx will not work because they expect 16kHz
sampling rate, and the N800 can only do 8kHz.  On the bright side the audio
quality from the lapel microphone on the headset that comes with the device
is pretty good (the onboard mic is not suitable for speech recognition).

Stuff I would appreciate some help with includes:

 * GStreamer.
 * How to create a new input method.



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R: Some weird questions about speech2text, text2speech, GPS ...

[Marco Solari]

Thanks ! It's just the kind of information I needed ... There is even some
sample code I can use ...
Nothing about speech2text /text2speech ? ;-)

Marco



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Inviato: lunedì 16 luglio 2007 14.30
A: Marco Solari
Cc: maemo-developers@maemo.org
Oggetto: Re: Some weird questions about speech2text, text2speech, GPS ...

Marco Solari wrote:
>  - GPS receiver direct interface (some kind of driver to allow a 
> direct reading from GPS receiver output, ie: current point in space, 
> velocity, direction ...).

gpsd is included in N800. Please see

http://maemo.org/development/documentation/how-tos/3-x/howto_connectivity_gu
ide_bora.html
http://maemo.org/community/wiki/howtousegpsframeworkinos2007/
http://gpsd.berlios.de/

Please note, however, that there is an open bug

https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1621

that can be overcome with

   setenv("GPSD_PROG","/usr/sbin/gpsd",1);

before calling gpsbt_start(). This bug prevents for example the gps-saver
application from connecting to gpsd.

BR

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Some weird questions about speech2text, text2speech, GPS ...

[Marco Solari]

Hi, everybody !
I'm new on this list, so be patient, please ... ;-)
I would like to know if there is any project active on the Nokia platform to
allow:
 - speech to text (voice synthesis)
 - text to speech (vocal commands)
 - GPS receiver direct interface (some kind of driver to allow a direct
reading from GPS receiver output, ie: current point in space, velocity,
direction ...).

I am currently evaluating the porting to the ARM architecture of open-source
projects 'rsynth' and 'festival' for text2speech, and 'pockesphinx' for
speech2text ...
I would also like to have some feedback about the feasibility and usability
of adaptive technology features like speech2text and text2speech on the
current HW platform (N800).

Thanks in advance for Your attention.
Cheers.

Marco


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R: Problems with bora maemo repository and apt-get ...

[Marco Solari]

 
Ola.
My /etc/nsswitch.conf is _the same_ as /scratchbox/etc/nsswitch.conf, and
resol.conf's are the same, too.
No improvement, though ... :-(
Thanks for your answers, nonetheless ...

Marco


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Oggetto: Re: Problems with bora maemo repository and apt-get ...

Ola,
My bad.
> Is there now some fix for resolv.conf as well that I do not know about 
> yet?
You need to make the nameserver on your system /etc/resolv.conf the same as
the one on your /scratchbox/etc/resolv.conf apt now works ok []'s Ian


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Problems with bora maemo repository and apt-get ...

[Marco Solari]

Hello, everybody,
any clues for this problem ? ('hosts' line on my "/etc/nsswitch" is "files
dns" ...).

[sbox-SDK_ARMEL: ~] > apt-get update
Err http://repository.maemo.org bora/free Packages
  Could not resolve 'repository.maemo.org'
Err http://repository.maemo.org bora/free Release
  Could not resolve 'repository.maemo.org'
Err http://repository.maemo.org bora/non-free Packages
  Could not resolve ' repository.maemo.org'
Err http://repository.maemo.org bora/non-free Release
  Could not resolve '  <http://repository.maemo.org> repository.maemo.org'
Err http://repository.maemo.org bora/free Sources
  Could not resolve 'repository.maemo.org'
Err http://repository.maemo.org bora/free Release
  Could not resolve 'repository.maemo.org'
Failed to fetch
http://repository.maemo.org/dists/bora/free/binary-armel/Packages.gz  Could
not resolve 'repository.maemo.org'
Failed to fetch
http://repository.maemo.org/dists/bora/free/binary-armel/Release  Could not
resolve 'repository.maemo.org'
Failed to fetch
http://repository.maemo.org/dists/bora/non-free/binary-armel/Packages.gz
Could not resolve 'repository.maemo.org'
Failed to fetch
http://repository.maemo.org/dists/bora/non-free/binary-armel/Release  Could
not resolve 'repository.maemo.org'
Failed to fetch
http://repository.maemo.org/dists/bora/free/source/Sources.gz  Could not
resolve 'repository.maemo.org'
Failed to fetch http://repository.maemo.org/dists/bora/free/source/Release
Could not resolve 'repository.maemo.org'
Reading Package Lists... Done
W: Couldn't stat source package list http://repository.maemo.org bora/free
Packages
(/var/lib/apt/lists/repository.maemo.org_dists_bora_free_binary-armel_Packag
es) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
W: Couldn't stat source package list http://repository.maemo.org
bora/non-free Packages
(/var/lib/apt/lists/repository.maemo.org_dists_bora_non-free_binary-armel_Pa
ckages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems 
E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones
used instead.
[sbox-SDK_ARMEL: ~] >


Thanks everybody in advance ...
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Marco Solari 
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