Subject: Re: [maemo-developers] Re: Abuse on the ApplicationCatalog page
> ffmpeg itself is totally LGPL. So, using unmodified ffmpeg library in > a > proprietary application, without releasing any source, is fine. > Of course this doesn't mean there aren't other license problems with > the "Nokia" Media Studio, but let's be sure before accusing anyone... > Yes you are correct sorry. Besides any trademark issue, there still is mention of HP and the GNU GPL when one runs grep -i copyright. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
[maemo-developers] Re: Abuse on the ApplicationCatalog page
In response -- While it is debatable if software that does not run on the 770 should be included on this page, the text that introduces this page doesn't state this one way or the other. In fact, this is a maemo application catalog, not a 770 application catalog. -- Maemo is a development platform. The applications on the the application page are not development tools. This leads to the notion that the programs supposed to run on a maemo based platform. -- In addition, the person who removed the software claims that it "violates the licensing of at least ffmpeg", but no proof is offered, and even if such proof existed, I'm not sure if it's relevant here. -- If you download the trial and extract the software in the installer run stings | grep copyright on the dll's and you will see results for HP, reference to the GPL and ffmpeg. For any one this is to complex for I will send you the results of these commands. I don't think that maemo should encourage the violation of the license which is the foundation for the FOSS world. -- Since this particular software is related to the 770, and I suspect that 770 users would find it useful, I think that it makes sense that the software should be permitted on the page. -- You have now contradicted what you said in the first paragraph. You said the software is related to the 770, while before you made a point that the applications were for maemo. If the standard is software that a user would find useful, then you are opening the door wide to what software should be included. Why not include the java media converter that someone made, any icecast server, gnump3d, avidemux, mencoder, orb, macromedia flash studio, realplayer/helix, and so forth. -- The Application Catalog page is one of the main places that 770 users visit to learn about 770-related software, and if Nokia Media Studio cannot be listed here, I don't think there is another appropriate location. -- You might not have noticed that http://www.internettablettalk.com/ regular lists proprietary applications. -- Also, by allowing anyone to arbitrarily remove applications from this page, this may result in fewer commercial software entries. Maybe some individuals expect all 3rd-party software for the device to be free and open, but this isn't necessarily appropriate for all software. -- While it is fine if software is not free and open I think it should 1) run on the maemo based nokia 770 and 2) should not exhibit rent seeking behavior by violating licenseors and copyright law. Ted ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
[maemo-developers] Re: Abuse on the ApplicationCatalog page
In response -- While it is debatable if software that does not run on the 770 should be included on this page, the text that introduces this page doesn't state this one way or the other. In fact, this is a maemo application catalog, not a 770 application catalog. -- Maemo is a development platform. The applications on the the application page are not development tools. This leads to the notion that the programs supposed to run on a maemo based platform. -- In addition, the person who removed the software claims that it "violates the licensing of at least ffmpeg", but no proof is offered, and even if such proof existed, I'm not sure if it's relevant here. -- If you download the trial and extract the software in the installer run stings | grep copyright on the dll's and you will see results for HP, reference to the GPL and ffmpeg. For any one this is to complex for I will send you the results of these commands. I don't think that maemo should encourage the violation of the license which is the foundation for the FOSS world. -- Since this particular software is related to the 770, and I suspect that 770 users would find it useful, I think that it makes sense that the software should be permitted on the page. -- You have now contradicted what you said in the first paragraph. You said the software is related to the 770, while before you made a point that the applications were for maemo. If the standard is software that a user would find useful, then you are opening the door wide to what software should be included. Why not include the java media converter that someone made, any icecast server, gnump3d, avidemux, mencoder, orb, macromedia flash studio, realplayer/helix, and so forth. -- The Application Catalog page is one of the main places that 770 users visit to learn about 770-related software, and if Nokia Media Studio cannot be listed here, I don't think there is another appropriate location. -- You might not have noticed that http://www.internettablettalk.com/ regular lists proprietary applications. -- Also, by allowing anyone to arbitrarily remove applications from this page, this may result in fewer commercial software entries. Maybe some individuals expect all 3rd-party software for the device to be free and open, but this isn't necessarily appropriate for all software. -- While it is fine if software is not free and open I think it should 1) run on the maemo based nokia 770 and 2) should not exhibit rent seeking behavior by violating licenseors and copyright law. Ted ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
