Re: [maemo-developers] Nokia's Linux-powered N800 Internet Tablet sneaks out early
On Mon, Jan 08, 2007 at 09:52:12AM +0200, ext Siarhei Siamashka wrote: Also the following line from dmesg log caugth my eye on #maemo irc channel: [8044.496856] omapfb omapfb: s1d1374x: setting update mode to disabled Does N800 also use Epson video chip just like N770? Could it be be some upgraded version? Something like S1D13745 chip with hardware scaling support: http://www.erd.epson.com/index.php?option=com_docmantask=cat_viewgid=38Itemid=40 OMAP2420 is supposed to have 2D/3D accelerator on chip. Is it disabled and can't be used at all (using Epson chip instead for better compatibility with existing software developed for N770)? The X server now provides the standard Xv (X Video) extension, so just use that instead, and things get a whole lot less complicated. It's not as wildly quick as it should be at the moment, but that's being actively worked on. Cheers, Daniel ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Nokia's Linux-powered N800 Internet Tablet sneaks out early
On Mon, Jan 08, 2007 at 09:52:12AM +0200, Siarhei Siamashka wrote: Also I wonder about DSP clock frequency for both N770 and N800. ARM core is clocked at 250MHz in N770 http://maemo.org/faq/faq.html#faq-N10129 says it was 220 MHz in the 770. Marius Gedminas -- Q: What's tiny and yellow and very, very, dangerous? A: A canary with the super-user password. signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Nokia's Linux-powered N800 Internet Tablet sneaks out early
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Great!3.0 sounds better all the time. - -- Buck Daniel Stone wrote: The X server now provides the standard Xv (X Video) extension, so just use that instead, and things get a whole lot less complicated. It's not as wildly quick as it should be at the moment, but that's being actively worked on. Cheers, Daniel -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFoolMPrrWIMa4SMsRAgFDAKC/SglioSpkN2ydjdslbw9EWHBH8ACfUQUC hOD8U8dOWA3p3qU30ALW8KA= =cbiP -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Nokia's Linux-powered N800 Internet Tablet sneaks out early
2007/1/7, Andrew Barr [EMAIL PROTECTED]: http://www.linux-watch.com/news/NS7056717365.html ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers http://www.flickr.com/photos/5th_avenue/sets/72157594461870146/ ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Nokia's Linux-powered N800 Internet Tablet sneaks out early
On Sun, 2007-01-07 at 18:54 +0100, Laszlo T. wrote: 2007/1/7, Andrew Barr [EMAIL PROTECTED]: http://www.linux-watch.com/news/NS7056717365.html ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers http://www.flickr.com/photos/5th_avenue/sets/72157594461870146/ Not that we're going to get one word out of a @nokia.com address for the time being...but they'd better not stop releasing FW updates and developing for the 770. Maemo isn't open enough for the community to maintain the software for the 770. I wish they'd have gotten a keyboard into this bad boy...one of the reasons I like my Zaurus a bit better (not to mention the 400MHz ARM processor). Not that I'll be buying one anytime soon...not only can I not really afford it but even me, the Linux gadget whore, cannot justify such an expense when I already have a 770...this update isn't worth $400 to me. Andrew ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Nokia's Linux-powered N800 Internet Tablet sneaks out early
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andrew J. Barr schreef: I wish they'd have gotten a keyboard into this bad boy...one of the reasons I like my Zaurus a bit better (not to mention the 400MHz ARM processor). An omap 24xx at 320 MHz is insanely faster as any xscale, thanks to it's vfp, dsp, iva and unaligned access options. regards, Koen -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) iD8DBQFFoUM0MkyGM64RGpERArRuAJ96NlU5C7FljFZdTK4uh7Zn/caJWwCeII3c Hd1AU0tMTAvBPQ59/AwslTM= =TyPI -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Nokia's Linux-powered N800 Internet Tablet sneaks out early
On 1/7/07, Koen Kooi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andrew J. Barr schreef: I wish they'd have gotten a keyboard into this bad boy...one of the reasons I like my Zaurus a bit better (not to mention the 400MHz ARM processor). An omap 24xx at 320 MHz is insanely faster as any xscale, thanks to it's vfp, dsp, iva and unaligned access options. Well I learned something new. regards, Koen -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) iD8DBQFFoUM0MkyGM64RGpERArRuAJ96NlU5C7FljFZdTK4uh7Zn/caJWwCeII3c Hd1AU0tMTAvBPQ59/AwslTM= =TyPI -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Nokia's Linux-powered N800 Internet Tablet sneaks out early
Hello, An omap 24xx at 320 MHz is insanely faster as any xscale, thanks to it's vfp, dsp, iva and unaligned access options. Well since the speed experience isn't that great with a 770 I hope the N800 will do way better. Not to talk about reboots and hangs. I really like my 770 however for browsing its too slow for my taste, for every new page loaded the user has to wait several seconds which is basically ok, but when it comes to heavy ajax like gmail its ... well simply slow ;-) Good luck Nokia, lg Clemens ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Nokia's Linux-powered N800 Internet Tablet sneaks out early
On 1/8/07, Koen Kooi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andrew J. Barr schreef: I wish they'd have gotten a keyboard into this bad boy...one of the reasons I like my Zaurus a bit better (not to mention the 400MHz ARM processor). An omap 24xx at 320 MHz is insanely faster as any xscale, thanks to it's vfp, dsp, iva and unaligned access options. Ok. Let's fun begin. It looks like OMAP2420 only. As per the development track on linux.omap.com kernel mailing list the product may _NOT_ be using the IVA1.0 processor. Basically OMAP2420 from the multimedia point of view is a MPEG4 device. I hope you know that Nokia N93 also uses the OMAP2420 processor doing cool mpeg4 encode at VGA 30fps, but that's on IVA1.0 not on ARM. So, if N800 is not using IVA, then don't expect good multimedia experience like N93. BTW, I am slowly and steadily working on the IVA driver components, but we don't see whole lot of drivers on that right now. -- ---Komal Shah http://komalshah.blogspot.com ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Nokia's Linux-powered N800 Internet Tablet sneaks out early
On Monday 08 January 2007 09:02, Komal Shah wrote: Ok. Let's fun begin. It looks like OMAP2420 only. As per the development track on linux.omap.com kernel mailing list the product may _NOT_ be using the IVA1.0 processor. Basically OMAP2420 from the multimedia point of view is a MPEG4 device. I hope you know that Nokia N93 also uses the OMAP2420 processor doing cool mpeg4 encode at VGA 30fps, but that's on IVA1.0 not on ARM. So, if N800 is not using IVA, then don't expect good multimedia experience like N93. BTW, I am slowly and steadily working on the IVA driver components, but we don't see whole lot of drivers on that right now. Also the following line from dmesg log caugth my eye on #maemo irc channel: [8044.496856] omapfb omapfb: s1d1374x: setting update mode to disabled Does N800 also use Epson video chip just like N770? Could it be be some upgraded version? Something like S1D13745 chip with hardware scaling support: http://www.erd.epson.com/index.php?option=com_docmantask=cat_viewgid=38Itemid=40 OMAP2420 is supposed to have 2D/3D accelerator on chip. Is it disabled and can't be used at all (using Epson chip instead for better compatibility with existing software developed for N770)? Also I wonder about DSP clock frequency for both N770 and N800. ARM core is clocked at 250MHz in N770 and 330MHZ in N800. TI docs specify 220MHz ARM core and 220MHz DSP core in OMAP1710, while OMAP2420 is specified to have 330MHz for ARM core and 220MHz for DSP. Was Nokia 770 clocked at 250/250 or 250/220? Is the clock frequency for N800 equal to standard 330/220? As ARM core is supposed to have higher clock frequency than DSP and it contains additional useful SIMD instructions, is it a better choice than DSP for multimedia now (pretending that IVA does not exist)? ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
