Re: Fremantle fullscreen mode [was Re: Call for testers with N900 for vncviewer]

2009-10-23 Thread Luca Donaggio
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 11:48 PM, Cornelius Hald h...@icandy.de wrote:

 On Wed, 2009-10-21 at 17:13 +0200, Luca Donaggio wrote:
  If there's neither hardware button to toggle fullscreen mode nor a
  default keyboard shortcut and the preferred method is via the
  touchscreen then a specific widget should be included in hildon, just
  to avoid duplicating the same code or, even worse, 'reinventing the
  wheel' for every app.
 
  Maybe it's a candidate for inclusion in Hildon Extras [1] -hint
  hint- ?

 It's not yet perfect, but I think I'll get it soon into Hildon Extras.
 The usage is as easy as calling he_fancy_name_new(window);[1] it will
 take care of the rest alone.

 I'll be back soon with some questions about transparency, composition
 and signal emission, but first I have to sleep :)

 http://zwong.de/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/transparent_overlay.png

 Good Night!
 Conny


 [1] The name is not yet decided, so suggestions are welcome.



Great Conny!

I'm no goot at finding names, but what about he_fullscreen_toggle_overlay?

Luca Donaggio
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Re: Fremantle fullscreen mode [was Re: Call for testers with N900 for vncviewer]

2009-10-23 Thread Cornelius Hald
On Fri, 2009-10-23 at 11:27 +0200, Luca Donaggio wrote:

 I'm no goot at finding names, but what about
 he_fullscreen_toggle_overlay?

It's a good fit I think. Something shorter would be nice, though.

I was thinking about the following names, but they have problems too:

- HeFullscreenButton sounds like it is a very big button
- HeFullscreenOverlay sounds like a very big overlay

Originally I wanted to call it HeFullscreenManager, but I now removed
all the 'manager' functionality, so I can't really call it 'manager'
anymore ;)

Other suggestions?

Conny


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Re: Fremantle fullscreen mode [was Re: Call for testers with N900 for vncviewer]

2009-10-23 Thread Andrew Flegg
On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 10:44, Cornelius Hald h...@icandy.de wrote:
 On Fri, 2009-10-23 at 11:27 +0200, Luca Donaggio wrote:

 I'm no goot at finding names, but what about
 he_fullscreen_toggle_overlay?

 It's a good fit I think. Something shorter would be nice, though.

 I was thinking about the following names, but they have problems too:

 - HeFullscreenButton sounds like it is a very big button
 - HeFullscreenOverlay sounds like a very big overlay

HeUnmaximiseButton (since another mechanism is used to *go*
fullscreen, isn't it)?

HTH,

Andrew

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Re: Fremantle fullscreen mode [was Re: Call for testers with N900 for vncviewer]

2009-10-23 Thread Aniello Del Sorbo
2009/10/23 Cornelius Hald h...@icandy.de:
 On Fri, 2009-10-23 at 11:27 +0200, Luca Donaggio wrote:

 I'm no goot at finding names, but what about
 he_fullscreen_toggle_overlay?

 It's a good fit I think. Something shorter would be nice, though.

 I was thinking about the following names, but they have problems too:

 - HeFullscreenButton sounds like it is a very big button
 - HeFullscreenOverlay sounds like a very big overlay

 Originally I wanted to call it HeFullscreenManager, but I now removed
 all the 'manager' functionality, so I can't really call it 'manager'
 anymore ;)

 Other suggestions?

 Conny


HeFullscreenToggle ?

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Re: Fremantle fullscreen mode [was Re: Call for testers with N900 for vncviewer]

2009-10-23 Thread Cornelius Hald
On Fri, 2009-10-23 at 10:55 +0100, Aniello Del Sorbo wrote:
 HeFullscreenToggle ?

I like that one. Andrew is of course right, that it doesn't really
toggle, it just allows to go from fullscreen to not-fullscreen. It's
difficult to put this into words and I think 'Fullscreen' should somehow
be part of the name.

So for now 'HeFullscreenToggle' is the winner. Thanks Aniello :)

Now if only someone could help me with those emission hooks...
Conny


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Re: Fremantle fullscreen mode [was Re: Call for testers with N900 for vncviewer]

2009-10-23 Thread Aniello Del Sorbo
2009/10/23 Cornelius Hald h...@icandy.de:
 On Fri, 2009-10-23 at 10:55 +0100, Aniello Del Sorbo wrote:
 HeFullscreenToggle ?

 I like that one. Andrew is of course right, that it doesn't really
 toggle, it just allows to go from fullscreen to not-fullscreen. It's
 difficult to put this into words and I think 'Fullscreen' should somehow
 be part of the name.

 So for now 'HeFullscreenToggle' is the winner. Thanks Aniello :)

 Now if only someone could help me with those emission hooks...
 Conny


Why is that not a toggle?

Can it also bring from non fullscreen to fullscreen?
Simply NOT fade away when in not fullscreen mode... may be passing
that flag via parameter?

HeFullscreenToggle - whatever other param, FADE_OUT |  NO_FADE_OUT

So, if I use it in my toolbar (where I'll leave empty space), it'll
look like a button in un-fullscreen mode with NO_FADE_OUT param.
If I use it in my un-fullscreen app with no toolbar, I still can use
it to toggle fullscreen.

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Re: Fremantle fullscreen mode [was Re: Call for testers with N900 for vncviewer]

2009-10-23 Thread Cornelius Hald
On Fri, 2009-10-23 at 12:07 +0100, Aniello Del Sorbo wrote:
 Why is that not a toggle?

Because I didn't make it a toggle :D

 Can it also bring from non fullscreen to fullscreen?
 Simply NOT fade away when in not fullscreen mode... may be passing
 that flag via parameter?
 
 HeFullscreenToggle - whatever other param, FADE_OUT |  NO_FADE_OUT
 
 So, if I use it in my toolbar (where I'll leave empty space), it'll
 look like a button in un-fullscreen mode with NO_FADE_OUT param.
 If I use it in my un-fullscreen app with no toolbar, I still can use
 it to toggle fullscreen.

That would be of course possible and once the code is in hildon extras
you can of course contribute to it.
I decided against it, simply because I personally don't need it. In
Conboy you activate the fullscreen mode using the menu or a keyboard
shortcut.
If you want a button on the toolbar, why not just add the button and add
gtk_window_fullscreen() as callback. That's almost a one liner + you get
the correct behavior of this button, e.g. spacing between other buttons,
colorful highlight while pressing etc...

Cheers!
Conny


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Re: Fremantle fullscreen mode [was Re: Call for testers with N900 for vncviewer]

2009-10-23 Thread pHilipp Zabel
On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 1:00 PM, Cornelius Hald h...@icandy.de wrote:
 On Fri, 2009-10-23 at 10:55 +0100, Aniello Del Sorbo wrote:
 HeFullscreenToggle ?

 I like that one. Andrew is of course right, that it doesn't really
 toggle, it just allows to go from fullscreen to not-fullscreen. It's
 difficult to put this into words and I think 'Fullscreen' should somehow
 be part of the name.

 So for now 'HeFullscreenToggle' is the winner. Thanks Aniello :)

Maybe use that name for a convenience ToggleButton derived widget that
one can add to the toolbar?
It could automatically take care of generating the transparent overlay
in fullscreen mode.

regards
Philipp
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Re: Fremantle fullscreen mode [was Re: Call for testers with N900 for vncviewer]

2009-10-23 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 11:44:33AM +0200, Cornelius Hald wrote:
 On Fri, 2009-10-23 at 11:27 +0200, Luca Donaggio wrote:
 
  I'm no goot at finding names, but what about
  he_fullscreen_toggle_overlay?
 
 It's a good fit I think. Something shorter would be nice, though.
 
 I was thinking about the following names, but they have problems too:
 
 - HeFullscreenButton sounds like it is a very big button
 - HeFullscreenOverlay sounds like a very big overlay

How does it work, Gtk-wise?  Is it a widget you add somewhere into your
widget tree?  If so, where?

HeFullscreenOverlay sounds like a GtkBin subclass that contains your
main content area and draws the overlay in the corner when the app is
fullscreened.

HeFloatingFullscreenButton is too long, I suppose.

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Re: Fremantle fullscreen mode [was Re: Call for testers with N900 for vncviewer]

2009-10-23 Thread Cornelius Hald
On Fri, 2009-10-23 at 16:31 +0300, Marius Gedminas wrote:
 On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 11:44:33AM +0200, Cornelius Hald wrote:
  On Fri, 2009-10-23 at 11:27 +0200, Luca Donaggio wrote:
  
   I'm no goot at finding names, but what about
   he_fullscreen_toggle_overlay?
  
  It's a good fit I think. Something shorter would be nice, though.
  
  I was thinking about the following names, but they have problems too:
  
  - HeFullscreenButton sounds like it is a very big button
  - HeFullscreenOverlay sounds like a very big overlay
 
 How does it work, Gtk-wise?  Is it a widget you add somewhere into your
 widget tree?  If so, where?

Somewhere, where you have access to your window object you do the
following:

he_fullscreen_toggle_new (GTK_WINDOW(win));

The HeFullscreenToggle attaches itself to the window and listens for
window state changed events. If the window changes its state to
fullscreen, the HeFullscreenToggle displays itself. If the state of the
window changes back to unfullscreen, the HeFullscreenToggle hides itself
again.

While the window is in fullscreen state. The HeFullscreenToggle also
listens to all button press events. So always if you touch the display
it is displayed. After 5 seconds of inactivity its hidden again. Just
like in the browser.

Once you click on the overlay button the parent window is set to
unfullscreen.

This of course means that your application still has to implement the
logic how and when it will switch to fullscreen. I think it's the right
way to go, because different applications have different needs. We'll
see if others find it usefull.

The code still needs cleaning, naming and testing before I put it in HE.
But if you're curious it's currently here:
https://garage.maemo.org/plugins/scmsvn/viewcvs.php/trunk/conboy/src/fullscreenmanager.c?revision=466root=conboyview=markup

 HeFullscreenOverlay sounds like a GtkBin subclass that contains your
 main content area and draws the overlay in the corner when the app is
 fullscreened.
 
 HeFloatingFullscreenButton is too long, I suppose.

Yea, it's a bit difficult to describe it in one word ;)

Cheers!
Conny


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Re: Fremantle fullscreen mode [was Re: Call for testers with N900 for vncviewer]

2009-10-23 Thread Cornelius Hald
On Fri, 2009-10-23 at 14:19 +0200, pHilipp Zabel wrote:
 On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 1:00 PM, Cornelius Hald h...@icandy.de wrote:
  On Fri, 2009-10-23 at 10:55 +0100, Aniello Del Sorbo wrote:
  HeFullscreenToggle ?
 
  I like that one. Andrew is of course right, that it doesn't really
  toggle, it just allows to go from fullscreen to not-fullscreen. It's
  difficult to put this into words and I think 'Fullscreen' should somehow
  be part of the name.
 
  So for now 'HeFullscreenToggle' is the winner. Thanks Aniello :)
 
 Maybe use that name for a convenience ToggleButton derived widget that
 one can add to the toolbar?
 It could automatically take care of generating the transparent overlay
 in fullscreen mode.

I could use that name for a convenience ToggleButton, unfortunately
there is no such button ;) Of course, if someone wants to implement
that, drop me a line and we'll figure out the names.

I still have to test and clean my code before it will go to HE, so there
is still some time regarding the name :)

Cheers!
Conny


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Re: Fremantle fullscreen mode [was Re: Call for testers with N900 for vncviewer]

2009-10-22 Thread Cornelius Hald
On Wed, 2009-10-21 at 17:13 +0200, Luca Donaggio wrote:
 If there's neither hardware button to toggle fullscreen mode nor a
 default keyboard shortcut and the preferred method is via the
 touchscreen then a specific widget should be included in hildon, just
 to avoid duplicating the same code or, even worse, 'reinventing the
 wheel' for every app.
 
 Maybe it's a candidate for inclusion in Hildon Extras [1] -hint
 hint- ?

It's not yet perfect, but I think I'll get it soon into Hildon Extras.
The usage is as easy as calling he_fancy_name_new(window);[1] it will
take care of the rest alone.

I'll be back soon with some questions about transparency, composition
and signal emission, but first I have to sleep :)

http://zwong.de/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/transparent_overlay.png

Good Night!
Conny


[1] The name is not yet decided, so suggestions are welcome.


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Fremantle fullscreen mode [was Re: Call for testers with N900 for vncviewer]

2009-10-21 Thread Cornelius Hald
Hi,

Nathan Anderson wrote:
 What physical hardware buttons do exist?  Maybe we can tie onto one
 of those to exit out of full screen mode in apps.Anybody know the
 keyboard constants are to these hardware buttons -- we should put them in a
 wiki article -- this is something that I could think that several programs
 would need.  Games that are running full screen, Remote Desktop, a picture
 viewer.

The available HW buttons are: +/- keys, Power key, Take-a-photo key and 
the lock key. Then there´s of course the keyboard with even more keys ;)

They key constants for the +/- keys are the same as on Diablo. But 
before you can use them you first have to unmap the default action, 
which is sound volume up/down.

I think the camera button works differently, don´t know how, but the 
load applet is using it for taking a screenshot.

Anyways, I don´t think any of the hardware buttons is well suited to 
toggle fullscreen mode. Instead I would go with a keyboard shortcut 
and/or the transparent overlay button that the browser is using.

I don´t think there is already a widely used keyboard shortcut. Some 
wiki document suggests Ctrl+f but this is often used to open the find 
bar. If we could standardize/recommend something for all community apps 
it would be nice. Suggestions welcome :)

About the transparent overlay button: There is some code available 
here[1] which was probably ripped out of the browser code. Unfortunately 
they also removed the transparency and the fade in/out effects[2]. I 
think it shouldn't be to difficult to add these again, though. I really 
would like to do this, but I don´t think my time will permit it anytime 
soon. Maybe someone else wants to give it a try?

Cheers!
Conny


[1] https://garage.maemo.org/svn/maemoexamples/trunk/maemopad/src/
[2] It´s still usable without those effects, just doesn´t look that nice.
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Re: Fremantle fullscreen mode [was Re: Call for testers with N900 for vncviewer]

2009-10-21 Thread Tuomas Kulve
Cornelius Hald wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Nathan Anderson wrote:
 What physical hardware buttons do exist?  Maybe we can tie onto one
 of those to exit out of full screen mode in apps.Anybody know the
 keyboard constants are to these hardware buttons -- we should put them in a
 wiki article -- this is something that I could think that several programs
 would need.  Games that are running full screen, Remote Desktop, a picture
 viewer.
 
 The available HW buttons are: +/- keys, Power key, Take-a-photo key and 
 the lock key. Then there´s of course the keyboard with even more keys ;)

The quake3 uses promixity sensor as a fire button. Hover a finger close
to the sensor (or just tap it) and it will fire.

Just pointing out that the device can use something weird instead of the
traditional hardware keys ;)

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Re: Fremantle fullscreen mode [was Re: Call for testers with N900 for vncviewer]

2009-10-21 Thread Aniello Del Sorbo
2009/10/21 Tuomas Kulve tuo...@kulve.fi:
 Cornelius Hald wrote:
 Hi,

 Nathan Anderson wrote:
 What physical hardware buttons do exist?  Maybe we can tie onto one
 of those to exit out of full screen mode in apps.    Anybody know the
 keyboard constants are to these hardware buttons -- we should put them in a
 wiki article -- this is something that I could think that several programs
 would need.  Games that are running full screen, Remote Desktop, a picture
 viewer.

 The available HW buttons are: +/- keys, Power key, Take-a-photo key and
 the lock key. Then there´s of course the keyboard with even more keys ;)

 The quake3 uses promixity sensor as a fire button. Hover a finger close
 to the sensor (or just tap it) and it will fire.

 Just pointing out that the device can use something weird instead of the
 traditional hardware keys ;)



But it's not always a good idea, I think.
People suggested Xournal should use this very same trick (the
proximity sensor) to enable the panning.

A sensor is a sensor, not a modifier.
But yes, strictly speaking one can force adapt hardware features to
do stuff it was not designed to do.

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Re: Call for testers with N900 for vncviewer

2009-10-21 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi,

ext ds wrote:
 Am Dienstag, den 20.10.2009, 20:08 +0200 schrieb Cornelius Hald: 
 On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 15:01 +0200, ds wrote:
 I have no feeling for N900 at the moment. But yes, I have some feature
 requests left on garage, and as there is not too much UI it should not
 be a big deal:-)

 But first I want to have it running an the N900.
 I got it working now :) Attached is a screenshot (in case the list
 allows that).
 
 Thanks, at least my copy allowed it! 
 Getting the UI Fremantle conform should be straight forward, at least it
 looks like that to me. If you need help there, just tell me.

 I got a message from maemo admin:
 After disabling the toolbar and switching to fullscreen mode there seems
 to be no way get out of full screen or getting the toolbar back.
 
 Can you confirm this? Is no Hardwarebutton bringing up the menu or
 toggle full screen anymore?

Correct.  I would suggest supporting additional shortcut like Ctrl-f as
proposed in another mail.


- Eero

PS. User can switch to other apps by using the Ctrl-backspace shortcut
for the task switcher (or by launching Camera app with the camera button
or closing the application from the power menu End task button).
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Re: Fremantle fullscreen mode [was Re: Call for testers with N900 for vncviewer]

2009-10-21 Thread pHilipp Zabel
On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 2:05 PM, Cornelius Hald h...@icandy.de wrote:
 Hi,

 Nathan Anderson wrote:
 What physical hardware buttons do exist?  Maybe we can tie onto one
 of those to exit out of full screen mode in apps.    Anybody know the
 keyboard constants are to these hardware buttons -- we should put them in a
 wiki article -- this is something that I could think that several programs
 would need.  Games that are running full screen, Remote Desktop, a picture
 viewer.

 The available HW buttons are: +/- keys, Power key, Take-a-photo key and
 the lock key. Then there´s of course the keyboard with even more keys ;)

 They key constants for the +/- keys are the same as on Diablo. But
 before you can use them you first have to unmap the default action,
 which is sound volume up/down.

 I think the camera button works differently, don´t know how, but the
 load applet is using it for taking a screenshot.

This is interesting. I wonder if it would be a good idea to repurpose
this button to scan a barcode from some applications (say, shopping
list or media catalog).

cheers
Philipp
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Re: Fremantle fullscreen mode [was Re: Call for testers with N900 for vncviewer]

2009-10-21 Thread Cornelius Hald
pHilipp Zabel wrote:
 I think the camera button works differently, don´t know how, but the
 load applet is using it for taking a screenshot.
 
 This is interesting. I wonder if it would be a good idea to repurpose
 this button to scan a barcode from some applications (say, shopping
 list or media catalog).

I think if you have an application which makes use of the camera, this 
is exactly the button you want to use. Only thing I´m not sure about is 
whether or not it is possible to deactivate the launching of the camera 
app which happens if you push the button.

The button has to states. First, you press it a bit only, this activates 
the autofocus if your´re in the camera app. Otherwise it just sends a 
dbus message. Then you can press it down completely which takes a 
picture if your´re inside the camera app or opens the camera app if it´s 
not open yet.

Cheers!
Conny
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Re: Fremantle fullscreen mode [was Re: Call for testers with N900 for vncviewer]

2009-10-21 Thread Henrik Hedberg
Cornelius Hald wrote:

  I don´t think there is already a widely used keyboard shortcut.

The full screen toggling should be done with the touch screen, yes.

However, there are some shortcuts in the keyboard (of which I found 
by accident):

CTRL-Backspace = Open the task switcher (can be used to somehow replace 
the full screen button)

CTRL-Shift-X = Open a new terminal (which is very handy if the 
hildon-desktop has jammed ;)

CTRL-Shift-P = Take a screenshot (which is saved in 
${HOME}/MyDocs/.images/Screenshots)

BR,

Henrik

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Re: Fremantle fullscreen mode [was Re: Call for testers with N900 for vncviewer]

2009-10-21 Thread Faheem Pervez
Worth nothing that it is actually hildon-desktop itself that defines
these shortcuts...

Best Regards,
Faheem

On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Henrik Hedberg
henrik.hedb...@innologies.fi wrote:
 Cornelius Hald wrote:

   I don´t think there is already a widely used keyboard shortcut.

    The full screen toggling should be done with the touch screen, yes.

    However, there are some shortcuts in the keyboard (of which I found
 by accident):

 CTRL-Shift-X = Open a new terminal (which is very handy if the
 hildon-desktop has jammed ;)

    BR,

    Henrik

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Re: Fremantle fullscreen mode [was Re: Call for testers with N900 for vncviewer]

2009-10-21 Thread Luca Donaggio
If there's neither hardware button to toggle fullscreen mode nor a default
keyboard shortcut and the preferred method is via the touchscreen then a
specific widget should be included in hildon, just to avoid duplicating the
same code or, even worse, 'reinventing the wheel' for every app.

Maybe it's a candidate for inclusion in Hildon Extras [1] -hint hint- ?

For now I'll stick with a keyboard shortcut, maybe CTRL-Shift-F would do.

Luca Donaggio

[1] https://garage.maemo.org/projects/hildon-extras/


On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 3:50 PM, Henrik Hedberg 
henrik.hedb...@innologies.fi wrote:

 Cornelius Hald wrote:

   I don´t think there is already a widely used keyboard shortcut.

 The full screen toggling should be done with the touch screen, yes.

However, there are some shortcuts in the keyboard (of which I found
 by accident):

 CTRL-Backspace = Open the task switcher (can be used to somehow replace
 the full screen button)

 CTRL-Shift-X = Open a new terminal (which is very handy if the
 hildon-desktop has jammed ;)

 CTRL-Shift-P = Take a screenshot (which is saved in
 ${HOME}/MyDocs/.images/Screenshots)

BR,

Henrik

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Re: Fremantle fullscreen mode [was Re: Call for testers with N900 for vncviewer]

2009-10-21 Thread Kimmo Hämäläinen
On Wed, 2009-10-21 at 17:13 +0200, ext Luca Donaggio wrote:
 If there's neither hardware button to toggle fullscreen mode nor a
 default keyboard shortcut and the preferred method is via the
 touchscreen then a specific widget should be included in hildon, just
 to avoid duplicating the same code or, even worse, 'reinventing the
 wheel' for every app.
 
 Maybe it's a candidate for inclusion in Hildon Extras [1] -hint
 hint- ?
 
 For now I'll stick with a keyboard shortcut, maybe CTRL-Shift-F would
 do.

You could listen for this key combination in the HildonWindow, so that
the HildonWindow that has input focus would handle changing the
fullscreenness (i.e. send the right ClientMessage). That way it wouldn't
need to be global shortcut with all the complications.

-Kimmo

 
 Luca Donaggio
 
 [1] https://garage.maemo.org/projects/hildon-extras/
 
 
 On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 3:50 PM, Henrik Hedberg
 henrik.hedb...@innologies.fi wrote:
 Cornelius Hald wrote:
 
   I don´t think there is already a widely used keyboard
 shortcut.
 
 
The full screen toggling should be done with the touch
 screen, yes.
 
However, there are some shortcuts in the keyboard (of which
 I found
 by accident):
 
 CTRL-Backspace = Open the task switcher (can be used to
 somehow replace
 the full screen button)
 
 CTRL-Shift-X = Open a new terminal (which is very handy if the
 hildon-desktop has jammed ;)
 
 CTRL-Shift-P = Take a screenshot (which is saved in
 ${HOME}/MyDocs/.images/Screenshots)
 
BR,
 
Henrik
 
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Re: Call for testers with N900 for vncviewer

2009-10-20 Thread ds
Am Dienstag, den 20.10.2009, 14:40 +0200 schrieb Cornelius Hald: 
 ds wrote:
  I have a first report of vncviewer working on N900.
  
  It is in fremantle extras-testing and should be quite save, as there are
  only minor changes to the diablo and chinokk version which is availible
  since 2007-12-02 without major problems.
  
  I would be glad, if there were some more testers. Perhaps we get it into
  extras without me having a N900:-)
  
  Thanks a lot
  
  Detlef
  
  http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_extras-testing_free_armel/vncviewer/0.6.3-fremantle1
 
 Hi Detlef,
 
 do you have plans to adopt the UI to the new Fremantle style? I 
 installed it yesterday, but couldn´t really test it because of troubles 
 with my vnc server. I noticed that the UI is basically unchanged which 
 makes it feel a bit out of place on the N900.

I have no feeling for N900 at the moment. But yes, I have some feature
requests left on garage, and as there is not too much UI it should not
be a big deal:-)

But first I want to have it running an the N900.

 
 Anyways, thanks for the port! Once my setup is working again, I´ll give 
 it another try.
 
 Cheers!
 Conny
 

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Re: Call for testers with N900 for vncviewer

2009-10-20 Thread ds
Am Dienstag, den 20.10.2009, 20:08 +0200 schrieb Cornelius Hald: 
 On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 15:01 +0200, ds wrote:
  I have no feeling for N900 at the moment. But yes, I have some feature
  requests left on garage, and as there is not too much UI it should not
  be a big deal:-)
  
  But first I want to have it running an the N900.
 
 I got it working now :) Attached is a screenshot (in case the list
 allows that).

Thanks, at least my copy allowed it! 
 
 Getting the UI Fremantle conform should be straight forward, at least it
 looks like that to me. If you need help there, just tell me.
 
I got a message from maemo admin:
After disabling the toolbar and switching to fullscreen mode there seems
to be no way get out of full screen or getting the toolbar back.

Can you confirm this? Is no Hardwarebutton bringing up the menu or
toggle full screen anymore?

 Now, the killer feature would be if you could put the transfered image
 onto a GL surface. That way it would be possible to smoothly zoom in and
 out of the picture and it would be much easier to hit small buttons and
 menues. Probably not an easy task, but I think it would rock :)
sounds a great idea:-)

 
 Cheers!
 Conny
 

Detlef

Berlin, ist ja ganz in der Nähe, oder was bedeutet es auf der Uhr?

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Re: Call for testers with N900 for vncviewer

2009-10-20 Thread Cornelius Hald
On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 20:35 +0200, ds wrote:
 I got a message from maemo admin:
 After disabling the toolbar and switching to fullscreen mode there seems
 to be no way get out of full screen or getting the toolbar back.
 
 Can you confirm this? Is no Hardwarebutton bringing up the menu or
 toggle full screen anymore?

Uhh, yes... this is indeed a problem. There is no hardware button
anymore (not for menu and not for fullscreen) so the toolbar needs to
stay or you need another way of exiting the fullscreen mode.

 sounds a great idea:-)

Glad you like it!

 Berlin, ist ja ganz in der Nähe, oder was bedeutet es auf der Uhr?

Ist nur die Zeitzone, aber trotzdem nur ca. 150km weg ;)

Cheers!
Conny


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