Re: N800 Intermittent Failure Mode Requiring Battery removal/reinsertion
On Fri, 2007-02-16 at 19:40 -0500, Jonathan Greene wrote: The battery trick seems to fix all odd ailments... Not sure where the magic is, but there's clearly some connection between a full power-down and a restorative state. Here is a way to reproduce a loss of functionality ending up in requiring removal of the battery: https://maemo.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=941 Laurent ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Booting from MMC as a de-bricking method
Hi, Zorane Great just-in-time suggestion. Do tell me more. Where are these files? Do I have to gainroot first to access them for rw? Is all this doable without flashing methods? If so, let me in on it. This sounds like a good in-road to sysadmin which leaves the integrity of the system in takt. Cheers, Paule P.S. Would it be useful to develop a GUI-based sysadmin tool that gives you fields in a tabbed-forms interface to the relevant files, much like the System folder in Win-land and that of M'c OS-X. - Original Message - From: Zoran Kolic [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: maemo-users@maemo.org Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2007 7:48 AM Subject: Re: Booting from MMC as a de-bricking method the bricking scenarios resulting from flashing a 770 to set it into RD mode, where the 770 sometimes bricks after rebooting. Wouldn't it be sometimes easier to change options simply editing files by the hand? I.e. what to change to get usb host mode, without using flasher? Zoran ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Airport Extreme - WPA2
I'll have to investigate the manual config, but seems like something is simply wrong to me. Though there were supposed to be standards for these keys so all supported devices spoke the same language. My AP was configured first, that's how I was presented with the key question on the N800... for now though I'll just go without encryption. It's very unlikely that someone would be sitting on my driveway or walking outside my house scanning the wireless network... ;) On 2/17/07, Zoran Kolic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just purchased a new Apple Airport Extreme and I have tried several times to enter the Pre-shared key, but it seems to be exactly 1 character longer than I am allowed to enter on the N800... I don't know this gadget, but looks strange that you cannot change options. If not, give it back and take linksys wrt54gl or similar. Key for wpa2 should be 25 or more characters long. Worked from first time for 770, wpa2 only and g only. I suggest you first configure ap and then search for connection, if possible on 800. Zoran ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- Jonathan Greene m 917.560.3000 AIM / iChat - atmasphere gtalk / jabber - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gizmo - JonathanGreene blog - http://www.atmasphere.net/wp ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Nokia 770 og N800 i Trondheim?
Jeg vil gjerne komme i kontakt med noen som kan vise meg en slik maskin. Vennlig hilsen -- Siv.ing. Ole Robert Hestvik Vega 7503-6016 Trondheim 4150-8743 Olex AS www.olex.no ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Booting from MMC as a de-bricking method
Hi Paule! Great just-in-time suggestion. Do tell me more. Where are these files? Do I have to gainroot first to access them for rw? Is all this doable without flashing methods? If so, let me in on it. This sounds like a good in-road to sysadmin which leaves the integrity of the system in takt. Nothing to hide. gainroot is file to change, following wiki called how to become root or something similar. Just don't forget to have space before #, in line that enables mode. Yes, you have to be root. From the very start, I think would be the best to first enable red-pill-mode, then add repositories, then update them and then install xterm and openssh. P.S. Would it be useful to develop a GUI-based sysadmin tool that gives you fields in a tabbed-forms interface to the relevant files, much like the The free space on the gadget is major reason to do things to look like 770. GUI is hog. I hear about 1'' hdd. If 770 has that hdd, it could fly debian like any other box. Memory amount like 800 and all would be happy. Zoran ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Airport Extreme - WPA2
Hi Jonathan! I'll have to investigate the manual config, but seems like something is simply wrong to me. Though there were supposed to be standards for these keys so all supported devices spoke the same language. Don't worry. WPA2 is standard. My AP was configured first, that's how I was presented with the key question on the N800... for now though I'll just go without encryption. It's very unlikely that someone would be sitting on my driveway or walking outside my house scanning the wireless network... Simply don't. My guess in the dark: you have manual on the CD. Try to get defaults. Then enable or disable what you like or dislike. Try to change channel to 1, 6 or 11. Maybe it has option for aes, which is what you want. Try to be close to ap. I've read that some ap's are not fully wpa2 ready. If you live in civilized area, try to replace it for wrt54gl. There is even newer version, that has nas included. Zoran ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Airport Extreme - WPA2
Hm! I've tried to find quickly something on configuration of this ap on the net. Looks that it should be made using mac computer and 10.1.5 + version. On the cd is setup wizard. If Jonathan has mac, fine. Btw, protocol is draft n. Compatible with a, b and g. Have lucky? Zoran ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: N800 as a Business Productivity Tool
On Fri, Feb 16, 2007 at 05:09:11PM -0500, Acadia Secure Networks wrote: Navigating the router admin port www pages was a little extra work (scrolling of 2 levels nested windows) but with the N800 I was still able to perform the necessary configuration adjustments on I would think that installing the ssh client would make router configuration much easier. Of course, then you will likely need a keyboard, as well, but mine is as small as my 770. The ssh client would also cirumvent the problems associated with ActiveX, flash, Java, etc. As others have commented, the N800 mail client really needs improvement. It is nowhere year as useable useful as the Windows Mobile 5.0 (I call it Outlook-lite) client on my handset. For I have given up on the built-in mail client, using mutt on my home server 95% of the time. I only fire it up when I know I am going to be without connectivity for a while and have some mail to go through. Even then, I will likely scan with mutt first and get rid of a number of messages quickly. There needs to be a reader for Microsoft word .doc's, Excel .xls files, and Powerpoint .ppt files Perhaps a stripped down version of Openoffice would be a workable solution for this requirement. I have not tried, indeed, I am a bit afraid, to try the Google Docs spreadsheets for this function. It should be simple to forward a message with one of these docs to the appropriate import email address and then view via the browser; if it could handle it, and I worry that the 770 cannot. Maybe it or the 800 would handle it just fine. I need to check it out. Also, I believe gnumeric is available for maemo. I have also seen abiword, but cannot figure out how to install it. K -- In Vino Veritas http://astroturfgarden.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Nokia 770 will not power on after standby
I have had the following problem with my 770 for sometime now, but do not really understand the cause or how to avoid it. This is what I did last night: - Moderate use of my tablet for a few hours. - Left on with a wikipedia article in the browser for about four hours - I wanted to read the article later, so I flipped the cover around and went to bed. (batt indicator shows full) - about ten hours later, I pulled the cover off, and it did not come on - To restore the device, I have to take out the battery for a minute or so, replace it, plug in the device, and press the power button. - when the tablet comes back on, it is fully or 3/4 charged Has anyone else seen this or have any ideas? thanks, K -- In Vino Veritas http://astroturfgarden.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: N800 as a Business Productivity Tool
K, many of the router and 802.11 access point products with which I work are designed around the assumption that the predominant, and, in most cases, the only method of effecting remote (i.e. via the TCP/IP stack as opposed to a serial port) management is via http or, preferably, https to a www server. On the router side most of my experience is with the products of Cisco/Linksys but I assume that the others, e.g. Dlink, Netgear, Belkin, etc. use the same approach given the ubiquity, familiarty, ease of use of a www browser based client end interface. Regarding the mail client I believe Nokia has to fix this, and do so sooner as opposed to later. For business use, email is still the killer data app (somewhat to my surprise that it is still so after all these years) and for Nokia to have missed the opportunity to get this right just amazes me. the N800 won't be a viable business tool until they correct this, in my opinion, fatal software flaw/shortcoming. Now maybe that is a market that Nokia is not interested in for this product but I think that would be a mistake, especially since fixing it is a SMOP (Small Matter of Programming). Best Regards, John Holmblad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Feb 16, 2007 at 05:09:11PM -0500, Acadia Secure Networks wrote: Navigating the router admin port www pages was a little extra work (scrolling of 2 levels nested windows) but with the N800 I was still able to perform the necessary configuration adjustments on I would think that installing the ssh client would make router configuration much easier. Of course, then you will likely need a keyboard, as well, but mine is as small as my 770. The ssh client would also cirumvent the problems associated with ActiveX, flash, Java, etc. As others have commented, the N800 mail client really needs improvement. It is nowhere year as useable useful as the Windows Mobile 5.0 (I call it Outlook-lite) client on my handset. For I have given up on the built-in mail client, using mutt on my home server 95% of the time. I only fire it up when I know I am going to be without connectivity for a while and have some mail to go through. Even then, I will likely scan with mutt first and get rid of a number of messages quickly. There needs to be a reader for Microsoft word .doc's, Excel .xls files, and Powerpoint .ppt files Perhaps a stripped down version of Openoffice would be a workable solution for this requirement. I have not tried, indeed, I am a bit afraid, to try the Google Docs spreadsheets for this function. It should be simple to forward a message with one of these docs to the appropriate import email address and then view via the browser; if it could handle it, and I worry that the 770 cannot. Maybe it or the 800 would handle it just fine. I need to check it out. Also, I believe gnumeric is available for maemo. I have also seen abiword, but cannot figure out how to install it. K ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Nokia 770 will not power on after standby
On 02/17/2007 08:45, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have had the following problem with my 770 for sometime now, but do not really understand the cause or how to avoid it. This is what I did last night: - Moderate use of my tablet for a few hours. - Left on with a wikipedia article in the browser for about four hours - I wanted to read the article later, so I flipped the cover around and went to bed. (batt indicator shows full) - about ten hours later, I pulled the cover off, and it did not come on - To restore the device, I have to take out the battery for a minute or so, replace it, plug in the device, and press the power button. - when the tablet comes back on, it is fully or 3/4 charged Has anyone else seen this or have any ideas? thanks, K I noticed a similiar problem using the audio player on my n770. If I put the cover on while the audio was playing the unit would immediately crash to where I needed to take the battery out, etc. I don't remember this happening with just the web browser and wifi connected but maybe something similiar is happening. tim ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Nokia 770 will not power on after standby
K, I don't have any answers but I just yesterday I reported to this list a similar problem on the N800 requiring removal/re installation of the battery to unbrick the device. Having said that, I can say that from my experience, the N800 software overall seems quite stable and far along on the software quality learning curve. Interestingly, I find that I can easily brick my mobile phone by running a large file download (e.g. a bandwidth test) or even sometimes opening a complex, data rich www page, which then requires me to hard reset/reboot the phone which runs Windows Mobile 5.0 in order to un-brick it. The nice part about these devices however, is that, with respect to rebooting, it is like going back to the good old days when rebooting computers took seconds as opposed to minutes! Let's hope that this trend continues because I don't want to spend my time watching doodads spinning around during a lengthy reboot cycle. Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks GSEC Gold, GCWN Gold, GGSC-0100, NSA-IAM, NSA-IEM serving the digital home, entrepreneurial enterprise, and emerging carrier markets (M) 703 407 2278 (F) 703 620 5388 primary email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] backup email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have had the following problem with my 770 for sometime now, but do not really understand the cause or how to avoid it. This is what I did last night: - Moderate use of my tablet for a few hours. - Left on with a wikipedia article in the browser for about four hours - I wanted to read the article later, so I flipped the cover around and went to bed. (batt indicator shows full) - about ten hours later, I pulled the cover off, and it did not come on - To restore the device, I have to take out the battery for a minute or so, replace it, plug in the device, and press the power button. - when the tablet comes back on, it is fully or 3/4 charged Has anyone else seen this or have any ideas? thanks, K ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Nokia 770 will not power on after standby
On Sat, Feb 17, 2007 at 12:35:50PM -0500, Acadia Secure Networks wrote: I don't have any answers but I just yesterday I reported to this list a similar problem on the N800 requiring removal/re installation of the battery to unbrick the device. I read those posts and the behavior was definitely similar, but I thought that p[erhaps my problem was a bit more passive. Inother words, I did nothing other than place the cover on the device. Also, mine is a 770. I forgot to mention that it is the second to latest OS flash. I cannot remember the exact numbers. I hope something can be done about this, because the batttery trick is a relatively savvy maneuver. Most people I know would not be able to do this. If it were their iPod, for example, they would call it broken and take it to the Apple store. This behavior is one of the things that go through my mind, and a warning I give when I show off my 770 and recommending it to friends. K -- In Vino Veritas http://astroturfgarden.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Syncing with dates
I'm trying to use Opened Hand's dates application. Dates itself seems to work fine but I am unable to import all my calendars. Here is what I've done: on notebook: scp -pr .evolution [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/user on n800 chown -R user.users .evolution reboot It finds the calendar in /home/user/.evolution/calendar/local/system but not the others (in for example /home/user/.evolution/calendar/local/[EMAIL PROTECTED]). thanks, Jon ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Nokia 770 will not power on after standby
On Sat, Feb 17, 2007 at 01:23:38PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Feb 17, 2007 at 12:35:50PM -0500, Acadia Secure Networks wrote: I don't have any answers but I just yesterday I reported to this list a similar problem on the N800 requiring removal/re installation of the battery to unbrick the device. I read those posts and the behavior was definitely similar, but I thought that p[erhaps my problem was a bit more passive. Inother words, I did nothing other than place the cover on the device. Also, mine is a 770. I forgot to mention that it is the second to latest OS flash. I cannot remember the exact numbers. There were three versions of OS2006. So you have OS2006.2. I hope something can be done about this, because the batttery trick is a relatively savvy maneuver. Most people I know would not be able to do this. If it were their iPod, for example, they would call it broken and take it to the Apple store. This behavior is one of the things that go through my mind, and a warning I give when I show off my 770 and recommending it to friends. My 770 spontaneously reboots every now and then, but never turns itself off. (I habitually charge it every night. Well, used to, before I got a N800). My mother sometimes has problems turning on her 770. I hold the power button for a few seconds, release it, and it boots fine. There appears to be a trick to it: if you hold the power button too short, it won't come up; if you hold it too long, it won't power on either. Sometimes it seemed that I had to plug in a charger to get it to see the power button presses, and I usually attributed that to an empty battery. My N800 appears to be very stable. It rebooted once (lifeguard reset due to crashed dsp_dld). Interesting: /var/lib/dsme/stats/lifeguard_resets claims I had three reboots (due to dsp_dld, maemo_af_desktop and dnsmasq). I never noticed the other two. Marius Gedminas -- Unix gives you enough rope to shoot yourself in the foot. signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: N800 as a Business Productivity Tool
On Sat, Feb 17, 2007 at 12:17:31PM -0500, Acadia Secure Networks wrote: many of the router and 802.11 access point products with which I work are designed around the assumption that the predominant, and, in most cases, the only method of effecting remote (i.e. via the TCP/IP stack as opposed to a serial port) management is via http Ahh, I made the mistake of thinking you meant something like a Cisco Catalyst of Juniper router, or managed switches. The IT does seem pretty ideal for quick and dirty management of those consumer-end devices you mention. In fact, I should try it next time I needto configure one! Regarding the mail client I believe Nokia has to fix this, and do so sooner as opposed to later. For business use, email is still the killer data app (somewhat to my surprise that it is still so after all these years) and for Nokia to have missed the opportunity Agreed. I went ahead and tried the Gmail Docs and spreadsheets, and it did not work: would not accept the browser version. I think that would be the ideal solution, since the IT will be hard-pressed to keep up with the data storage requirements of many users' e-mail usage. It could be done with large flash cards, but seems easier just to let Google handle all the data. Assuming you don't mind that they have it. I also tried to install Gnumeric, as I liked what I saw on my XUbuntu installationn. No dice, it just failed without an error. K -- In Vino Veritas http://astroturfgarden.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Nokia 770 will not power on after standby
On Sun, Feb 18, 2007 at 12:49:15AM +0200, Marius Gedminas wrote: My mother sometimes has problems turning on her 770. I hold the power button for a few seconds, release it, and it boots fine. There appears to be a trick to it: if you hold the power button too short, it won't come up; if you hold it too long, it won't power on either. Sometimes it seemed that I had to plug in a charger to get it to see the power button presses, and I usually attributed that to an empty battery. I will try this. When it happens, I have tried various times: short and long, but I will try just right next time :) There are times when the device works fine, but this happens with relatie frequency if I am not careful. Not a problem when I am near a power source, but a problem if I am travelling. thanks, K -- In Vino Veritas http://astroturfgarden.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Help with thttpd
Hi, folks. I need some help with thttpd. I've installed and run it to get easy access to my 770 via a Web browser. The problem I've got is that every time I get an Internet connection (via wifi or phone) my IP address changes. So that I've prepared a very simple web page at a fixed URL. In that page I've uploaded a simple index.html with my new IP, and it redirects the reader to my 770 web server. The problem is that I must update that index.html every time I connect my 770 in order to have a correct IP address. Is there any way to automate the process via a script? Could anybody help me with the script? Is there a simpler way to achieve what I need? Thank you in advance. Sebas. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Nokia 770 will not power on after standby
- Moderate use of my tablet for a few hours. - Left on with a wikipedia article in the browser for about four hours - I wanted to read the article later, so I flipped the cover around and went to bed. (batt indicator shows full) - about ten hours later, I pulled the cover off, and it did not come on - To restore the device, I have to take out the battery for a minute or so, replace it, plug in the device, and press the power button. - when the tablet comes back on, it is fully or 3/4 charged I'm not sure if the hardware is 24/7 ready. Also filesystem has it's own rules. Swapping is needed from time to time. Take it all together and (probably) get reboot. I have strange issues when the battery is close to empty. Wifi connection refuses to make, not always. Inbed browser just disappears. Nothing of this happens when the battery is full. As I read posts, to me it looks that all reports are connected with always on boxen. Adding checking like ffs has or water proof garbage collecting would be contraproductive on this little dude, I think. What if user does shutdown -h now at the end of daily work? Zoran ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
