Re: Some Data Backed Commentary in the midst of this week's Blather about the Iphone

2007-06-27 Thread Jonathan Greene
Reading your Bluetooth DUN comment... I was on the train home tonight
tapping madly on my bluetooth keyboard and N800 wondering whether I'd
be able to that with the iPhone.  Other than headset,we have no info -
at least for another 1.5 days.

On 6/27/07, Gopi Flaherty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Jun 27, 2007, at 7:23 PM, Acadia Secure Networks wrote:
> > (which are in fact quite user extensible, witness the software product
> > portfolio available at handago) by dis-allowing the user from
> > installing
> > arbitrary software "apps" on it.
>
> I don't like that aspect of it. We'll see how long it remains closed.
> There isn't an API for it, though, and it does clearly have
> significant differences compared to standard OS X, so opening it up
> isn't straightforward.
>
> >  I would be interested to know how long ATT is going to have
> > exclusivity
> > on the Iphone. If it is more than say 6 months, then that will give
> > iphone competitors time to sell/design/build competing solutions to
> > the
> > other mobile service providers, which they, are probably already
> > doing.
>
> What will the iPhone competitors do that they aren't already trying
> to do?
>
> A browser that's desktop-class? Everybody else is updating their
> browsers all the time. They want good browsers.
>
> Email with attachments? My Nokia E70's email client requires about 5
> button presses to view a photo, and then when I close the photo it
> prompts me if I want to save the photo or not. No, I was just
> _viewing_ it in my email.
>
> I don't think that the iPhone does anything that the competition
> hasn't been trying to do for years. I just think that it does the
> things it does better than anybody else. The UI is very innovative.
> We'll see what the performance is like, and what sort of issues
> people find, but given the terrible state of so many smart phones on
> the market today, I don't see them doing a great job improving things
> even if they have good inspiration.
>
> Personally, my two top priorities on my iPhone will be:
> 1. Command-line python apps so I can attach AJAX to the innards.
> 2. Bluetooth DUN so I can use my N800 with it.
>
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Re: Some Data Backed Commentary in the midst of this week's Blather about the Iphone

2007-06-27 Thread Gopi Flaherty

On Jun 27, 2007, at 7:23 PM, Acadia Secure Networks wrote:
> (which are in fact quite user extensible, witness the software product
> portfolio available at handago) by dis-allowing the user from  
> installing
> arbitrary software "apps" on it.

I don't like that aspect of it. We'll see how long it remains closed.  
There isn't an API for it, though, and it does clearly have  
significant differences compared to standard OS X, so opening it up  
isn't straightforward.

>  I would be interested to know how long ATT is going to have  
> exclusivity
> on the Iphone. If it is more than say 6 months, then that will give
> iphone competitors time to sell/design/build competing solutions to  
> the
> other mobile service providers, which they, are probably already  
> doing.

What will the iPhone competitors do that they aren't already trying  
to do?

A browser that's desktop-class? Everybody else is updating their  
browsers all the time. They want good browsers.

Email with attachments? My Nokia E70's email client requires about 5  
button presses to view a photo, and then when I close the photo it  
prompts me if I want to save the photo or not. No, I was just  
_viewing_ it in my email.

I don't think that the iPhone does anything that the competition  
hasn't been trying to do for years. I just think that it does the  
things it does better than anybody else. The UI is very innovative.  
We'll see what the performance is like, and what sort of issues  
people find, but given the terrible state of so many smart phones on  
the market today, I don't see them doing a great job improving things  
even if they have good inspiration.

Personally, my two top priorities on my iPhone will be:
1. Command-line python apps so I can attach AJAX to the innards.
2. Bluetooth DUN so I can use my N800 with it.


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N800 with FON wireless router

2007-06-27 Thread Brenton Bills
Hi Folks,

I reflashed my Fon wireless router with dd-wrt and am using WPA2
encryption between my N800 and the FON, except the N800 as soon as it
connects to the Fon crashes and reboots, time after time. So are there
issues with WPA2?

Regards,
Brenton Bills.
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Re: Some Data Backed Commentary in the midst of this week's Blather about the Iphone

2007-06-27 Thread Jonathan Greene
ATT has a 5 YEAR deal ... pretty major.

It's posible (my theory) that quite a bit can be upgraded and tweaked
with software updates rather than a hardware re-sell.  You have to buy
a 2 yr contract and it's currently only EDGE capable, but it
apparently auto-detects and auto-switches to known wifi when it sees
them which is pretty awesome.



On 6/27/07, Acadia Secure Networks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Kevin,
>
> and it looks like Apple, has, in fact,. "bent the pins", on this device,
> moreso than on , say  Microsoft Windows Mobile 5.0, or 6.0 based devices
> (which are in fact quite user extensible, witness the software product
> portfolio available at handago) by dis-allowing the user from installing
> arbitrary software "apps" on it.
>
> This product is driven as much by the itunes business model (ipod = high
> class razor, tunes = blade) than anything else. ATT and Apple can now
> "collaborate" on extending Itunes dominance to other forms of media content.
>
>  I would be interested to know how long ATT is going to have exclusivity
> on the Iphone. If it is more than say 6 months, then that will give
> iphone competitors time to sell/design/build competing solutions to the
> other mobile service providers, which they, are probably already doing.
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
>
>
> John Holmblad
>
>
>
> Acadia Secure Networks
>
>
>
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > On Wed, Jun 27, 2007 at 03:32:24PM -0400, Acadia Secure Networks wrote:
> >
> >> "Our verdict is that, despite some flaws and feature omissions, the
> >> iPhone is, on balance, a beautiful and breakthrough handheld computer.
> >> Its software, especially, sets a new bar for the smart-phone industry,
> >>
> >
> > David Pogue on NPR this morning said essentially the same thing.  His 
> > biggest beef was the fact that it was tied to Cingular.  Other than that, a 
> > nice and useful phone that is parked about in the middle of the price range 
> > for phones these days.
> >
> > I'd love to get a chance to play with one, but will not be an early adopter 
> > this time.
> >
> > K
> >
> >
>
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Re: Some Data Backed Commentary in the midst of this week's Blather about the Iphone

2007-06-27 Thread Acadia Secure Networks
Kevin,

and it looks like Apple, has, in fact,. "bent the pins", on this device, 
moreso than on , say  Microsoft Windows Mobile 5.0, or 6.0 based devices 
(which are in fact quite user extensible, witness the software product 
portfolio available at handago) by dis-allowing the user from installing 
arbitrary software "apps" on it.

This product is driven as much by the itunes business model (ipod = high 
class razor, tunes = blade) than anything else. ATT and Apple can now 
"collaborate" on extending Itunes dominance to other forms of media content.

 I would be interested to know how long ATT is going to have exclusivity 
on the Iphone. If it is more than say 6 months, then that will give 
iphone competitors time to sell/design/build competing solutions to the 
other mobile service providers, which they, are probably already doing.


Best Regards,

 

John Holmblad

 

Acadia Secure Networks




[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 27, 2007 at 03:32:24PM -0400, Acadia Secure Networks wrote:
>   
>> "Our verdict is that, despite some flaws and feature omissions, the 
>> iPhone is, on balance, a beautiful and breakthrough handheld computer. 
>> Its software, especially, sets a new bar for the smart-phone industry, 
>> 
>
> David Pogue on NPR this morning said essentially the same thing.  His biggest 
> beef was the fact that it was tied to Cingular.  Other than that, a nice and 
> useful phone that is parked about in the middle of the price range for phones 
> these days.
>
> I'd love to get a chance to play with one, but will not be an early adopter 
> this time.
>
> K
>
>   

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RE: When are we to expect the next update for the N800 from Nokia?

2007-06-27 Thread Dr. Nicholas Shaw
Hey, that really worked! Very cool! Thanks to all!

Nick.
 

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Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 7:22 AM
To: Dr. Nicholas Shaw
Cc: Kevin T. Neely; maemo-users@maemo.org
Subject: Re: When are we to expect the next update for the N800 from Nokia?

http://www.gizmoproject.com/nokia

On 6/27/07, Dr. Nicholas Shaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Gizmo?
>
> This piqued my interest so I went and did a search for Gizmo in the
> Downloads section.  Does it have another name?
> Thanks,
>
> Nick.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Jonathan Greene
> Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 5:19 AM
> To: Kevin T. Neely
> Cc: maemo-users@maemo.org
> Subject: Re: When are we to expect the next update for the N800 from
Nokia?
>
> You need to really use the headset to get the most from it though
> speakerphone works fine too - at least in my experience.  Gizmo is
> great since it lets you call phones, but the Google Talk app on the
> tablet also works very well if your contacts have an account.
>
>
>
> On 6/25/07, Kevin T. Neely <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Mon, Jun 25, 2007 at 01:27:39PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
> > > I want free or cheap WiFi to be as highly available as my GSM service.
> > > Then I can chuck my phone and live on my N800.  ; )
> >
> >
> > While we are on the subject of using the Internet Tablet as a phone, can
> anyone tell me (or point me to some good how-to/wiki pages) how they do
it?
> I just signed up for and installed the Gizmo client today.  That went
pretty
> well, and then I got one of those free inbound phone numbers, which worked
> well too.  Now, when I answer, I can hear the other person, but they don't
> hear me.  I may have meessed up the mic on my 770.
> >
> > Is there a way to use a Bluetooth headset?  The gizmo faq says they'e
not
> supported, but then again, I don't think keyboards are officially
supported,
> but mine works perfectly all day long.
> >
> > thank you for this and other tips,
> > Kevin
> >
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Re: Some Data Backed Commentary in the midst of this week's Blather about the Iphone

2007-06-27 Thread ktneely
On Wed, Jun 27, 2007 at 03:32:24PM -0400, Acadia Secure Networks wrote:
> "Our verdict is that, despite some flaws and feature omissions, the 
> iPhone is, on balance, a beautiful and breakthrough handheld computer. 
> Its software, especially, sets a new bar for the smart-phone industry, 

David Pogue on NPR this morning said essentially the same thing.  His biggest 
beef was the fact that it was tied to Cingular.  Other than that, a nice and 
useful phone that is parked about in the middle of the price range for phones 
these days.

I'd love to get a chance to play with one, but will not be an early adopter 
this time.

K

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Re: When are we to expect the next update for the N800 from Nokia?

2007-06-27 Thread Eduardo Lima
I'm really interested in the platform library upgrades, such as GTK+,
cairo, and so on. It's becoming more and more difficult to keep the
latest version of desktop based applications ported to Maemo, since we
are stuck with old version of core libraries that must not be
upgraded.

I've been using sardine in scratchbox for some time now and the
results are quite promising. I'm waiting to get a > 2 GB SD card to
get sardine also installed in my device.

Best Regards, Etrunko.

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Some Data Backed Commentary in the midst of this week's Blather about the Iphone

2007-06-27 Thread Acadia Secure Networks
All,

fyi. Here are two articles that provide some data (or at least usage) 
backed commentary on the Iphone:

http://www.parksassociates.com/free_data/downloads/parks-iPhone.pdf

The above document is free but requires registration.

And this from Walt Mossberg at the WSJ who has also reviewed the Nokia N800:


http://online.wsj.com/article/SB118289311361649057.html?mod=hps_us_inside_today

In his words,

"Our verdict is that, despite some flaws and feature omissions, the 
iPhone is, on balance, a beautiful and breakthrough handheld computer. 
Its software, especially, sets a new bar for the smart-phone industry, 
and its clever finger-touch interface, which dispenses with a stylus and 
most buttons, works well, though it sometimes adds steps to common 
functions."

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Gizmo (was: Re: When are we to expect...)

2007-06-27 Thread ktneely
On Wed, Jun 27, 2007 at 01:28:29PM +0200, Josh Smith wrote:
> The current Gizmo version's keypad doesn't work on the n800, and to
> accept an incoming call you need the keypad... doh... I am sure
> they'll fix it - actually I wonder if anyone has complained - er -
> filed a bug on that?

Same with the 770.  I am runing the version 3 beta client on my tablet and it 
exhiits this problem.  Outbound calls sound great, according to my parents.

There are a couple posts in the forums; I am not aware as to whether or not 
they have any sort of Bugtraq for that project.  

Apparently, it works just fine if you do not have the call screening feature 
enabled.  You can achieve this by either paying for the basic version of the 
775 number, or getting one of their call-in numbers.  I think I am going to try 
it, as $4/mo is not that bad for inbound calls.

I am not trying to get free calls.  But, I am not much of a phone user, and 
when I do use it, with the exception of the car, I tend to be near a wi-fi 
connection.  What I like about Gizmo is the pricing structure fits a user with 
my profile, but mostly I like the idea or it as a home phone replacement, but a 
replacement that also fills the role of my mobile phone at least 50% of the 
time, as well.  The other feature that is great is that if I forget my phone, 
this makes for a great backup, whether I am at my laptop, have my 770, or am at 
a work desktop.


So, one question:  Is this headset y'all mentioned available for the 770?  Or 
just the 800?

thanks,
Kevin

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Re: When are we to expect the next update for the N800 from Nokia?

2007-06-27 Thread Jonathan Greene
http://www.gizmoproject.com/nokia

On 6/27/07, Dr. Nicholas Shaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Gizmo?
>
> This piqued my interest so I went and did a search for Gizmo in the
> Downloads section.  Does it have another name?
> Thanks,
>
> Nick.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Jonathan Greene
> Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 5:19 AM
> To: Kevin T. Neely
> Cc: maemo-users@maemo.org
> Subject: Re: When are we to expect the next update for the N800 from Nokia?
>
> You need to really use the headset to get the most from it though
> speakerphone works fine too - at least in my experience.  Gizmo is
> great since it lets you call phones, but the Google Talk app on the
> tablet also works very well if your contacts have an account.
>
>
>
> On 6/25/07, Kevin T. Neely <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Mon, Jun 25, 2007 at 01:27:39PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > I want free or cheap WiFi to be as highly available as my GSM service.
> > > Then I can chuck my phone and live on my N800.  ; )
> >
> >
> > While we are on the subject of using the Internet Tablet as a phone, can
> anyone tell me (or point me to some good how-to/wiki pages) how they do it?
> I just signed up for and installed the Gizmo client today.  That went pretty
> well, and then I got one of those free inbound phone numbers, which worked
> well too.  Now, when I answer, I can hear the other person, but they don't
> hear me.  I may have meessed up the mic on my 770.
> >
> > Is there a way to use a Bluetooth headset?  The gizmo faq says they'e not
> supported, but then again, I don't think keyboards are officially supported,
> but mine works perfectly all day long.
> >
> > thank you for this and other tips,
> > Kevin
> >
> > --
> > In Vino Veritas
> > http://astroturfgarden.com
> >
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Re: When are we to expect the next update for the N800 from Nokia?

2007-06-27 Thread MoRpHeUz
Try this: http://www.gizmoproject.com/

Cheers

On 6/27/07, Dr. Nicholas Shaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Gizmo?
>
> This piqued my interest so I went and did a search for Gizmo in the
> Downloads section.  Does it have another name?
> Thanks,
>
> Nick.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Jonathan Greene
> Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 5:19 AM
> To: Kevin T. Neely
> Cc: maemo-users@maemo.org
> Subject: Re: When are we to expect the next update for the N800 from Nokia?
>
> You need to really use the headset to get the most from it though
> speakerphone works fine too - at least in my experience.  Gizmo is
> great since it lets you call phones, but the Google Talk app on the
> tablet also works very well if your contacts have an account.
>
>
>
> On 6/25/07, Kevin T. Neely <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Mon, Jun 25, 2007 at 01:27:39PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > I want free or cheap WiFi to be as highly available as my GSM service.
> > > Then I can chuck my phone and live on my N800.  ; )
> >
> >
> > While we are on the subject of using the Internet Tablet as a phone, can
> anyone tell me (or point me to some good how-to/wiki pages) how they do it?
> I just signed up for and installed the Gizmo client today.  That went pretty
> well, and then I got one of those free inbound phone numbers, which worked
> well too.  Now, when I answer, I can hear the other person, but they don't
> hear me.  I may have meessed up the mic on my 770.
> >
> > Is there a way to use a Bluetooth headset?  The gizmo faq says they'e not
> supported, but then again, I don't think keyboards are officially supported,
> but mine works perfectly all day long.
> >
> > thank you for this and other tips,
> > Kevin
> >
> > --
> > In Vino Veritas
> > http://astroturfgarden.com
> >
> >
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RE: When are we to expect the next update for the N800 from Nokia?

2007-06-27 Thread Dr. Nicholas Shaw
Gizmo?

This piqued my interest so I went and did a search for Gizmo in the
Downloads section.  Does it have another name?
Thanks,

Nick.
 
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Cc: maemo-users@maemo.org
Subject: Re: When are we to expect the next update for the N800 from Nokia?

You need to really use the headset to get the most from it though
speakerphone works fine too - at least in my experience.  Gizmo is
great since it lets you call phones, but the Google Talk app on the
tablet also works very well if your contacts have an account.



On 6/25/07, Kevin T. Neely <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 25, 2007 at 01:27:39PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > I want free or cheap WiFi to be as highly available as my GSM service.
> > Then I can chuck my phone and live on my N800.  ; )
>
>
> While we are on the subject of using the Internet Tablet as a phone, can
anyone tell me (or point me to some good how-to/wiki pages) how they do it?
I just signed up for and installed the Gizmo client today.  That went pretty
well, and then I got one of those free inbound phone numbers, which worked
well too.  Now, when I answer, I can hear the other person, but they don't
hear me.  I may have meessed up the mic on my 770.
>
> Is there a way to use a Bluetooth headset?  The gizmo faq says they'e not
supported, but then again, I don't think keyboards are officially supported,
but mine works perfectly all day long.
>
> thank you for this and other tips,
> Kevin
>
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Re: When are we to expect the next update for the N800 from Nokia?

2007-06-27 Thread Josh Smith
The current Gizmo version's keypad doesn't work on the n800, and to
accept an incoming call you need the keypad... doh... I am sure
they'll fix it - actually I wonder if anyone has complained - er -
filed a bug on that?

BT headsets are not supported on the n800.  BT Keyboards are
officially supported.  You can use the supplied head set, which has a
built-in mic - it works quite well.

> > While we are on the subject of using the Internet Tablet as a phone, can 
> > anyone tell me (or point me to some good how-to/wiki pages) how they do it? 
> >  I just signed up for and installed the Gizmo client today.  That went 
> > pretty well, and then I got one of those free inbound phone numbers, which 
> > worked well too.  Now, when I answer, I can hear the other person, but they 
> > don't hear me.  I may have meessed up the mic on my 770.
> >
> > Is there a way to use a Bluetooth headset?  The gizmo faq says they'e not 
> > supported, but then again, I don't think keyboards are officially 
> > supported, but mine works perfectly all day long.
> >
> > thank you for this and other tips,
> > Kevin
> >
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Re: When are we to expect the next update for the N800 from Nokia?

2007-06-27 Thread Jonathan Greene
You need to really use the headset to get the most from it though
speakerphone works fine too - at least in my experience.  Gizmo is
great since it lets you call phones, but the Google Talk app on the
tablet also works very well if your contacts have an account.



On 6/25/07, Kevin T. Neely <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 25, 2007 at 01:27:39PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > I want free or cheap WiFi to be as highly available as my GSM service.
> > Then I can chuck my phone and live on my N800.  ; )
>
>
> While we are on the subject of using the Internet Tablet as a phone, can 
> anyone tell me (or point me to some good how-to/wiki pages) how they do it?  
> I just signed up for and installed the Gizmo client today.  That went pretty 
> well, and then I got one of those free inbound phone numbers, which worked 
> well too.  Now, when I answer, I can hear the other person, but they don't 
> hear me.  I may have meessed up the mic on my 770.
>
> Is there a way to use a Bluetooth headset?  The gizmo faq says they'e not 
> supported, but then again, I don't think keyboards are officially supported, 
> but mine works perfectly all day long.
>
> thank you for this and other tips,
> Kevin
>
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> http://astroturfgarden.com
>
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Re: When are we to expect the next update for the N800 from Nokia?

2007-06-27 Thread Kevin T. Neely
On Mon, Jun 25, 2007 at 01:27:39PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I want free or cheap WiFi to be as highly available as my GSM service.
> Then I can chuck my phone and live on my N800.  ; )


While we are on the subject of using the Internet Tablet as a phone, can anyone 
tell me (or point me to some good how-to/wiki pages) how they do it?  I just 
signed up for and installed the Gizmo client today.  That went pretty well, and 
then I got one of those free inbound phone numbers, which worked well too.  
Now, when I answer, I can hear the other person, but they don't hear me.  I may 
have meessed up the mic on my 770.  

Is there a way to use a Bluetooth headset?  The gizmo faq says they'e not 
supported, but then again, I don't think keyboards are officially supported, 
but mine works perfectly all day long.

thank you for this and other tips,
Kevin

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Re: (bluetooth?) printing

2007-06-27 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Wed, 2007-06-27 at 11:43 +0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I need to print documents from Nokia N800 using Bluetooth 
> or USB connection (from my own application or using any 
> existing tool). Looked maemo.org through but couldn't find 
> any application that could print. I also checked out the 
> mailing lists archive but could only find printing in a 
> wishlist of 2006. Did anything change?
> As far as I know, printing in Linux is performed via CUPS. 
> I found that there is bluez-cups v. 3.7osso11 and 
> blueztools - could I try writing an application to print 
> to printers via Bluetooth using this lib? Is there any 
> example of such an application?
> I actually plan to port my .Net Compact Framework 
> application using Mono. On a Windows Mobile device I used 
> a library that performed low-level data transmission for 
> several printer models, e.g. for all HP printer supporting 
> PCL. Maybe there is some low-level driver for such 
> printers for Linux too?

Better would be to write a GTK+ printing backend that handles SPP
(Simple Printing Profile), so there's no need to have CUPS and drivers
is what is a size-limited device.

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(bluetooth?) printing

2007-06-27 Thread maemo
I need to print documents from Nokia N800 using Bluetooth 
or USB connection (from my own application or using any 
existing tool). Looked maemo.org through but couldn't find 
any application that could print. I also checked out the 
mailing lists archive but could only find printing in a 
wishlist of 2006. Did anything change?
As far as I know, printing in Linux is performed via CUPS. 
I found that there is bluez-cups v. 3.7osso11 and 
blueztools - could I try writing an application to print 
to printers via Bluetooth using this lib? Is there any 
example of such an application?
I actually plan to port my .Net Compact Framework 
application using Mono. On a Windows Mobile device I used 
a library that performed low-level data transmission for 
several printer models, e.g. for all HP printer supporting 
PCL. Maybe there is some low-level driver for such 
printers for Linux too?
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