Re: Nokia device usage
John Holmblad a écrit : Jean-Christian, the term 3g radio is a fairly broad term. The key is what software is going to be in the new G4 IT above the radio/physical layer. It would make sense, especially if Nokia decides that the G4 IT is going to go after the market served by the iphone, to give the G4 IT, full 2G/3G voice functionality in addition to HSDPA. The rub here with such a decision may be the impact on the product cost of having to use a presumably more expensive radio of the kind that are contained in 2G/3G dual mode handsets. I would think that for a product released in 2009 2G support would still be essential. [...] John, It seem that you think that there exists 3G chip that make only HSPA, without voice, and/or without 2G compatibility. You can be right, but I have a big doubt on that. Best Regards, -- Jean-Christian de Rivaz ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Nokia device usage
On Mon, Mar 09, 2009 at 03:56:48PM -0600, Mark wrote: And the only reason that Linux and Macs are so relatively safe from viruses and worms is because they aren't targeted, not because they are fundamentally more secure. This would make sense if creating a virus required a significant effort... Berto ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: N8xx ponderings
On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 8:05 AM, Matt Emson mem...@interalpha.co.uk wrote: Mark wrote: On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 4:20 PM, kenneth marken kemar...@broadpark.no wrote: i wish i could point you to the law text, but sadly its only in norwegian... To quote Dickens, the law is an ass. Remember that Dickens was English and in British English, Ass is a kind of Donkey, where as arse is you back-side, posteria, butt or whatever you want to call it. An Ass is a stubborn animal, which is what he was alluding to. (i.e. what Dickens said doesn't mean the same as the modern US English reading of that statement...) I knew that, but it's pretty much irrelevant as to the meaning of the statement. The point is that the law has little to do with morality or justice. Mark ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Nokia device usage
On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 7:14 PM, James Knott james.kn...@rogers.com wrote: Bottom line, there are a lot of technical and usage reasons that make it much harder for malware to attack Linux/Unix. But NOT impossible, and the fact remains that the overwhelming majority of malware writers are either Mac or Linux fanboys and aren't about to attack their own pet OS or they are simply gunning for the OS that is installed on the overwhelming majority of PCs worldwide. Mark ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Nokia device usage
On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 9:21 AM, kenneth marken kemar...@broadpark.no wrote: basically, the only really safe option is to yank that plug, and use only home-coded apps... Provided you *never* make any mistakes or overlook any bugs... ;-) Mark ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
videos on n810
hi, which video format is better for n810 (avi, mpg, ...) ? I have a N95, but our videos (mpg4) don't play in n810, sound ok, but images is too slow How to I convert .mp4 to maemo better format with linux? thx ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: videos on n810
On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 8:54 PM, Olavo Junior sky...@gmail.com wrote: hi, which video format is better for n810 (avi, mpg, ...) ? I have a N95, but our videos (mpg4) don't play in n810, sound ok, but images is too slow How to I convert .mp4 to maemo better format with linux? All that is explained here: http://maemo.org/development/documentation/manuals/3-x/transcoding_how-to/ -- Felipe Contreras ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: videos on n810
On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 01:01:48PM -0600, Mark wrote: which video format is better for n810 (avi, mpg, ...) ? I have a N95, but our videos (mpg4) don't play in n810, sound ok, but images is too slow How to I convert .mp4 to maemo better format with linux? thx It's not the format so much as the resolution. See quoted previous post below for more info on two methods; mencoder and tablet-encode. Mark On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 8:24 PM, Ognen Duzlevski og...@naniteworld.com Andrew Daviel wrote: I think I used mencoder dvd://5 -oac twolame -twolameopts br=64 -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg4:aspect=4/3:vbitrate=512 -vf scale=480:288 -idx -ffourcc DIVX -quiet -o jackjack2.avi This actually worked. Thank you very much. If you forgive the plug, with tablet-encode[1] that'd be: tablet-encode -p best dvd: Incredibles.avi I try it, but doesn't work, look: lala$ du -ms 1234567890.mp4 168 1234567890.mp4 lala$ tablet-encode -p best 1234567890.mp4 foo.avi ... ... Video stream: 2573.281 kbit/s (321660 B/s) size: 32938 bytes 0.102 secs 2442 frames Audio stream: 191.993 kbit/s (23999 B/s) size: 15046 bytes 0.627 secs lala$ du -ms foo.avi 1 foo.avi Any idea? (Or you could use the basic GUI to the same effect) It's got a feature I'm quite proud of (simple, really): if you just specify dvd://, it'll find the longest title and rip that. Cheers, Andrew [1] http://mediautils.garage.maemo.org/tablet-encode.html -- Andrew Flegg -- mailto:and...@bleb.org | http://www.bleb.org/ Maemo Community Council member ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
3G + iphone - not so fast
All, maybe some of you have seen this already. but today I came across the following utube video which attempts to separate fact from fiction with respect to ATT's 3g service when used with the Iphone http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaN1Nz1Dylseurl=http://www.jasonball.com/techbytes/2008/09/would-the-real-iphone-please-stand-up.htmlfeature=player_embedded According to the video's creator, the unscientific measurement of performance was done in an area of Boston, Ma that has a strong 3g signal. -- Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks, LLC * * mailto:jholmb...@verizon.net ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Iphone + tethering - No Way
All, I finally had a chance to visit an ATT store near me to check out iphone service plan pricing. In the process I learned that the iphone does NOT support tethering (via bluetooth or otherwise) of other devices to it for the purpose of Internet access for such other devices. Furthermore I learned that ATT, like Verizon Wireless, has 2 choices of data plans for those devices that DO support tethering as explained to me by their salesperson. These choices are 1. Device only Internet access $30 US/month 2. #1 above + Device Tethering capability $60 US/month^1 (there is a limit of 5gb/month put on this) ATT also has a data only plan for users who just want to use a USB or Cardbus adapter for mobile Internet access for their PC or other device. The monthly charge for that plan, called Data Connect is $60/month also with a 5gb limit but with overage charges for use beyond the 5 gb/month. I should note that the $60 US/month for pricing plan #2 above from ATT compares with a price of $44.99 US/month^2 from Verizon which has the same 5gb monthly limit (stated in its fine print), a ~$15 US/month price difference in favor of Verizon Wireless vs ATT. -- Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks, LLC * * mailto:jholmb...@verizon.net ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Iphone + tethering - No Way
I've been using the original iPhone SIM in various devices for years now and I tether all kinds of mobile devices from laptops, N810, netbooks ... no issues. I've cleared 2Gb a few times, but 5 would be more like your only connection ... On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Kevin T. Neely ktne...@astroturfgarden.com wrote: FWIW, I don't have an iphone, but I do have a $15/mo unlimited (which means 5GB) plan from ATT and I tether my laptop to that. K On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 1:27 PM, John Holmblad jholmb...@acadiasecurenets.com wrote: All, I finally had a chance to visit an ATT store near me to check out iphone service plan pricing. In the process I learned that the iphone does NOT support tethering (via bluetooth or otherwise) of other devices to it for the purpose of Internet access for such other devices. Furthermore I learned that ATT, like Verizon Wireless, has 2 choices of data plans for those devices that DO support tethering as explained to me by their salesperson. These choices are 1. Device only Internet access $30 US/month 2. #1 above + Device Tethering capability $60 US/month^1 (there is a limit of 5gb/month put on this) ATT also has a data only plan for users who just want to use a USB or Cardbus adapter for mobile Internet access for their PC or other device. The monthly charge for that plan, called Data Connect is $60/month also with a 5gb limit but with overage charges for use beyond the 5 gb/month. I should note that the $60 US/month for pricing plan #2 above from ATT compares with a price of $44.99 US/month^2 from Verizon which has the same 5gb monthly limit (stated in its fine print), a ~$15 US/month price difference in favor of Verizon Wireless vs ATT. -- Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks, LLC * * mailto:jholmb...@verizon.net ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- In Vino Veritas http://rubbernecking.info ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- Jonathan Greene +1.914.750.8740 AIM / iChat - atmasphere gtalk / jabber - jonathangre...@gmail.com Skype / Gizmo - JonathanGreene blogs - http://www.atmasphere.net/wp / http://www.maemoapps.com Sent from: New York New York United States. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: N8xx ponderings
hend...@topoi.pooq.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 09, 2009 at 01:15:58PM -0700, lakestevensdental wrote: * W7 requires 4 partitions, leaving only 1 partition for a dual boot to Ubuntu or other OS. Ubuntu currently recommends an separate partition for swap memory, but W7 isn't going to allow it. Has the partitioning system changed? I thought that we were limited to four primary partitions, leaving *no* partitions free for dual boot. Or else one of them could be the extended partition, which can contain *lots* of secondary partitions. Possibly it's changed with 1T hds taking the market? When I installed Ubuntu after W7, there were 4 W7 partitions and one free for Ubuntu. I didn't really pay attention to whether the W7s were all primary partitions or not. I do know there were no additional primary partitions left after installing Ubuntu, cutting a chunk out of the largest W7 partition, at least according to the Ubuntu partitioner. I figured with 4Gs of RAM, the need for a swap partition for Ubuntu was minimized, at least for now. I'm going to overwrite W7 in a couple days, which should free up a couple partitions. If I've got a spare partition, I suppose I could then go back and tweak Ubuntu to add a swap partition. Or reinstall it from scratch. Having only installed Ubuntu a couple weeks ago, I haven't done much with Ubuntu other than browse around a bit and check if it works with all of the devices I've attached to check against W7 beta's poor ability to recognize drivers and stuff. Ubuntu 8.1 did just fine finding everything -- no BS M$ W driver $ignature enforcement. FYI, on another thread drift -- when I run W7s performance checker, the slowest part of the two new boxes I installed are the hard drives. One came out as a 5.5, the other as a 3.0. Both SATAs supposedly have similar specs. It's possible the problem could be related to W7 SATA driver BS, since I wasn't able to load the Shuttle Vista MB drivers from the Shuttle MB CD. Which also prevented me from accessing the LAN port to look for updates. Fed up with W7 on my brand new Shuttle, I overwrote W7 with XPPro with PC_BSD installed as intermediate step to check device operations in case MS fooled around with me in XPPro. BSD's partition manager also allowed me to wipe out the four W7 partitions. Both XPPro and BSD installed and worked fine. S ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: videos on n810
Olavo Junior wrote: hi, which video format is better for n810 (avi, mpg, ...) ? I have a N95, but our videos (mpg4) don't play in n810, sound ok, but images is too slow How to I convert .mp4 to maemo better format with linux? As others have noted, there's an encoder available for mp4s. Handbrake works for unprotected DVDs, which, in my experience, provides a wide variety of options for changing resolution and formats. I think there's both Linux and Windows versions available. Processing can take a long time (hours) so find a fast box to do that work if possible. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Iphone + tethering - No Way
Read PDA.net is now available for iPhone that for around $40 turns it into a wireless router. On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 4:27 PM, Jonathan Greene atmasph...@atmasphere.netwrote: I've been using the original iPhone SIM in various devices for years now and I tether all kinds of mobile devices from laptops, N810, netbooks ... no issues. I've cleared 2Gb a few times, but 5 would be more like your only connection ... On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Kevin T. Neely ktne...@astroturfgarden.com wrote: FWIW, I don't have an iphone, but I do have a $15/mo unlimited (which means 5GB) plan from ATT and I tether my laptop to that. K On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 1:27 PM, John Holmblad jholmb...@acadiasecurenets.com wrote: All, I finally had a chance to visit an ATT store near me to check out iphone service plan pricing. In the process I learned that the iphone does NOT support tethering (via bluetooth or otherwise) of other devices to it for the purpose of Internet access for such other devices. Furthermore I learned that ATT, like Verizon Wireless, has 2 choices of data plans for those devices that DO support tethering as explained to me by their salesperson. These choices are 1. Device only Internet access $30 US/month 2. #1 above + Device Tethering capability $60 US/month^1 (there is a limit of 5gb/month put on this) ATT also has a data only plan for users who just want to use a USB or Cardbus adapter for mobile Internet access for their PC or other device. The monthly charge for that plan, called Data Connect is $60/month also with a 5gb limit but with overage charges for use beyond the 5 gb/month. I should note that the $60 US/month for pricing plan #2 above from ATT compares with a price of $44.99 US/month^2 from Verizon which has the same 5gb monthly limit (stated in its fine print), a ~$15 US/month price difference in favor of Verizon Wireless vs ATT. -- Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks, LLC * * mailto:jholmb...@verizon.net ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- In Vino Veritas http://rubbernecking.info ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- Jonathan Greene +1.914.750.8740 AIM / iChat - atmasphere gtalk / jabber - jonathangre...@gmail.com Skype / Gizmo - JonathanGreene blogs - http://www.atmasphere.net/wp / http://www.maemoapps.com Sent from: New York New York United States. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- Jose Vargas ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: 3G + iphone - not so fast
HSDPA (3.5G)? Also, was this comparing 3G to EVDO? In the UK, all the 3G that O2 provides is HSDPA and it is blazingly fast. No offence to the people in the States, but your GSM network is in the stone age. I'd def go for EVDO if I was in the States. Sent from my iPhone On 10 Mar 2009, at 19:48, John Holmblad jholmb...@acadiasecurenets.com wrote: All, maybe some of you have seen this already. but today I came across the following utube video which attempts to separate fact from fiction with respect to ATT's 3g service when used with the Iphone http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaN1Nz1Dylseurl=http://www.jasonball.com/techbytes/2008/09/would-the-real-iphone-please-stand-up.htmlfeature=player_embedded According to the video's creator, the unscientific measurement of performance was done in an area of Boston, Ma that has a strong 3g signal. -- Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks, LLC * * mailto:jholmb...@verizon.net ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Iphone + tethering - No Way
Kevin, you may have legacy pricing because it now appears from the ATT www site that it is $30/month for the Data Connect service. Do you actually get bit rates above 100kbps in your location? I suspect that the ATT service, similar to Verizon Wireless's service, will automatically downhift to GPRS/Edge bit rates (on Verizon Wireless's network it is referred to as 1xRTT). Maybe ATT had a lower price for those geographic locations that were not yet upgraded to HSDPA. Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks, LLC * * Kevin T. Neely wrote: FWIW, I don't have an iphone, but I do have a $15/mo unlimited (which means 5GB) plan from ATT and I tether my laptop to that. K On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 1:27 PM, John Holmblad jholmb...@acadiasecurenets.com mailto:jholmb...@acadiasecurenets.com wrote: All, I finally had a chance to visit an ATT store near me to check out iphone service plan pricing. In the process I learned that the iphone does NOT support tethering (via bluetooth or otherwise) of other devices to it for the purpose of Internet access for such other devices. Furthermore I learned that ATT, like Verizon Wireless, has 2 choices of data plans for those devices that DO support tethering as explained to me by their salesperson. These choices are 1. Device only Internet access $30 US/month 2. #1 above + Device Tethering capability $60 US/month^1 (there is a limit of 5gb/month put on this) ATT also has a data only plan for users who just want to use a USB or Cardbus adapter for mobile Internet access for their PC or other device. The monthly charge for that plan, called Data Connect is $60/month also with a 5gb limit but with overage charges for use beyond the 5 gb/month. I should note that the $60 US/month for pricing plan #2 above from ATT compares with a price of $44.99 US/month^2 from Verizon which has the same 5gb monthly limit (stated in its fine print), a ~$15 US/month price difference in favor of Verizon Wireless vs ATT. -- Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks, LLC * * mailto:jholmb...@verizon.net mailto:jholmb...@verizon.net ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org mailto:maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- In Vino Veritas http://rubbernecking.info ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: 3G + iphone - not so fast
On Tue, 2009-03-10 at 22:11 +, Matt Emson wrote: HSDPA (3.5G)? Also, was this comparing 3G to EVDO? In the UK, all the 3G that O2 provides is HSDPA and it is blazingly fast. No offence to the people in the States, but your GSM network is in the stone age. I'd def go for EVDO if I was in the States. Sent from my iPhone None taken. Our pricing structure on the other hand seems to be quite current and very related to being shaken down. I still don't get the handset only data plans vs the tethering plans. Isn't data just data, no matter where it's sent from? Of course if I tether I am not required to go through my carriers portal. I'm still not coughing up another $60 on top of my voice plan. I'd still like to figure out a way to use my handset to dial my included dialup internet access. Best Regards, -- Peter Bart pe...@petertheplumber.net Peter The Plumber ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Nokia device usage
kenneth marken wrote: Bottom line, there are a lot of technical and usage reasons that make it much harder for malware to attack Linux/Unix. the big problem here is that the target for said malware have changed... its no longer about bringing down whole systems. these days its the users data they are after. credit card info, codes of all kinds, and just about anything else. was there not a sweep of ransom attacks where a worm would archive the whole content of the users document dir, and encrypt the archive? leaving a message to send x amount of money to some account for the password? under these situations, read access is more then enough access, most of the time. the only option i can see for the user then is to run every program he tries to make use of online, inside some kind of chroot can. but even thats not perfect. basically, the only really safe option is to yank that plug, and use only home-coded apps... Again, it's harder. In Outlook, for example, a virus attached to an email could run as soon as the message was read, without the user having to do anything. For a virus to run in Linux, the user would have to: 1) detach the file 2) make it executable 3) manually run it In short, it won't run without the user taking 3 deliberate steps to run it. -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Iphone + tethering - No Way
I did set it up last year, so I am sure my pricing is pretty good. It's not so good that it is the *real* unlimited data which some people still enjoy. I get just over 100kbps, but that's because I have an N82 and it's Edge only in the US. When I swap my SIM to my N75, I get 400+kbps K On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 3:45 PM, John Holmblad jholmb...@acadiasecurenets.com wrote: Kevin, you may have legacy pricing because it now appears from the ATT www site that it is $30/month for the Data Connect service. Do you actually get bit rates above 100kbps in your location? I suspect that the ATT service, similar to Verizon Wireless's service, will automatically downhift to GPRS/Edge bit rates (on Verizon Wireless's network it is referred to as 1xRTT). Maybe ATT had a lower price for those geographic locations that were not yet upgraded to HSDPA. Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks, LLC * * Kevin T. Neely wrote: FWIW, I don't have an iphone, but I do have a $15/mo unlimited (which means 5GB) plan from ATT and I tether my laptop to that. K On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 1:27 PM, John Holmblad jholmb...@acadiasecurenets.com mailto:jholmb...@acadiasecurenets.com wrote: All, I finally had a chance to visit an ATT store near me to check out iphone service plan pricing. In the process I learned that the iphone does NOT support tethering (via bluetooth or otherwise) of other devices to it for the purpose of Internet access for such other devices. Furthermore I learned that ATT, like Verizon Wireless, has 2 choices of data plans for those devices that DO support tethering as explained to me by their salesperson. These choices are 1. Device only Internet access $30 US/month 2. #1 above + Device Tethering capability $60 US/month^1 (there is a limit of 5gb/month put on this) ATT also has a data only plan for users who just want to use a USB or Cardbus adapter for mobile Internet access for their PC or other device. The monthly charge for that plan, called Data Connect is $60/month also with a 5gb limit but with overage charges for use beyond the 5 gb/month. I should note that the $60 US/month for pricing plan #2 above from ATT compares with a price of $44.99 US/month^2 from Verizon which has the same 5gb monthly limit (stated in its fine print), a ~$15 US/month price difference in favor of Verizon Wireless vs ATT. -- Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks, LLC * * mailto:jholmb...@verizon.net mailto:jholmb...@verizon.net ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org mailto:maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- In Vino Veritas http://rubbernecking.info ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- In Vino Veritas http://rubbernecking.info ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Nokia device usage
Mark wrote: On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 7:14 PM, James Knott james.kn...@rogers.com wrote: Bottom line, there are a lot of technical and usage reasons that make it much harder for malware to attack Linux/Unix. But NOT impossible, and the fact remains that the overwhelming majority of malware writers are either Mac or Linux fanboys and aren't about to attack their own pet OS or they are simply gunning for the OS that is installed on the overwhelming majority of PCs worldwide. I never claimed it was impossible. However, how do you know the majority of malware writers run Linux or Mac -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Iphone + tethering - No Way
Jose, Interesting. I have to wonder though if ATT considers that a hack as legitimate as it might be that violates the use policy of its service for the iphone. There is a similar app that installs/runs on 802.11 enabled Windows Mobile devices. Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks, LLC Jose Vargas wrote: Read PDA.net is now available for iPhone that for around $40 turns it into a wireless router. On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 4:27 PM, Jonathan Greene atmasph...@atmasphere.net mailto:atmasph...@atmasphere.net wrote: I've been using the original iPhone SIM in various devices for years now and I tether all kinds of mobile devices from laptops, N810, netbooks ... no issues. I've cleared 2Gb a few times, but 5 would be more like your only connection ... On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Kevin T. Neely ktne...@astroturfgarden.com mailto:ktne...@astroturfgarden.com wrote: FWIW, I don't have an iphone, but I do have a $15/mo unlimited (which means 5GB) plan from ATT and I tether my laptop to that. K On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 1:27 PM, John Holmblad jholmb...@acadiasecurenets.com mailto:jholmb...@acadiasecurenets.com wrote: All, I finally had a chance to visit an ATT store near me to check out iphone service plan pricing. In the process I learned that the iphone does NOT support tethering (via bluetooth or otherwise) of other devices to it for the purpose of Internet access for such other devices. Furthermore I learned that ATT, like Verizon Wireless, has 2 choices of data plans for those devices that DO support tethering as explained to me by their salesperson. These choices are 1. Device only Internet access $30 US/month 2. #1 above + Device Tethering capability $60 US/month^1 (there is a limit of 5gb/month put on this) ATT also has a data only plan for users who just want to use a USB or Cardbus adapter for mobile Internet access for their PC or other device. The monthly charge for that plan, called Data Connect is $60/month also with a 5gb limit but with overage charges for use beyond the 5 gb/month. I should note that the $60 US/month for pricing plan #2 above from ATT compares with a price of $44.99 US/month^2 from Verizon which has the same 5gb monthly limit (stated in its fine print), a ~$15 US/month price difference in favor of Verizon Wireless vs ATT. -- Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks, LLC * * mailto:jholmb...@verizon.net mailto:jholmb...@verizon.net ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org mailto:maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- In Vino Veritas http://rubbernecking.info ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org mailto:maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- Jonathan Greene +1.914.750.8740 AIM / iChat - atmasphere gtalk / jabber - jonathangre...@gmail.com mailto:jonathangre...@gmail.com Skype / Gizmo - JonathanGreene blogs - http://www.atmasphere.net/wp / http://www.maemoapps.com Sent from: New York New York United States. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org mailto:maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- Jose Vargas ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: N8xx ponderings
On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 02:41:25PM -0700, lakestevensdental wrote: hend...@topoi.pooq.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 09, 2009 at 01:15:58PM -0700, lakestevensdental wrote: * W7 requires 4 partitions, leaving only 1 partition for a dual boot to Ubuntu or other OS. Ubuntu currently recommends an separate partition for swap memory, but W7 isn't going to allow it. Has the partitioning system changed? I thought that we were limited to four primary partitions, leaving *no* partitions free for dual boot. Or else one of them could be the extended partition, which can contain *lots* of secondary partitions. Possibly it's changed with 1T hds taking the market? When I installed Ubuntu after W7, there were 4 W7 partitions and one free for Ubuntu. I didn't really pay attention to whether the W7s were all primary partitions or not. I do know there were no additional primary partitions left after installing Ubuntu, cutting a chunk out of the largest W7 partition, at least according to the Ubuntu partitioner. I figured with 4Gs of RAM, the need for a swap partition for Ubuntu was minimized, at least for now. I'm going to overwrite W7 in a couple days, which should free up a couple partitions. Before you remove w7, just to be clear, could you go superuser in ubuntu and fdisk -l the relevant drive? That would probably tell us just what is going on with the mysterious extra partition. If I've got a spare partition, I suppose I could then go back and tweak Ubuntu to add a swap partition. Or reinstall it from scratch. Having only installed Ubuntu a couple weeks ago, I haven't done much with Ubuntu other than browse around a bit and check if it works with all of the devices I've attached to check against W7 beta's poor ability to recognize drivers and stuff. Ubuntu 8.1 did just fine finding everything -- no BS M$ W driver $ignature enforcement. -- hendrik ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Fwd: Iphone + tethering - No Way
Funny Apple hasn't sued them. The developer explicitly states you'll have to jailbreak. Jose http://www.junefabrics.com/iphone/index.php On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 8:17 PM, John Holmblad jholmb...@acadiasecurenets.com wrote: Jose, Interesting. I have to wonder though if ATT considers that a hack as legitimate as it might be that violates the use policy of its service for the iphone. There is a similar app that installs/runs on 802.11 enabled Windows Mobile devices. Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks, LLC Jose Vargas wrote: Read PDA.net is now available for iPhone that for around $40 turns it into a wireless router. On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 4:27 PM, Jonathan Greene atmasph...@atmasphere.net mailto:atmasph...@atmasphere.net wrote: I've been using the original iPhone SIM in various devices for years now and I tether all kinds of mobile devices from laptops, N810, netbooks ... no issues. I've cleared 2Gb a few times, but 5 would be more like your only connection ... On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Kevin T. Neely ktne...@astroturfgarden.com mailto:ktne...@astroturfgarden.com wrote: FWIW, I don't have an iphone, but I do have a $15/mo unlimited (which means 5GB) plan from ATT and I tether my laptop to that. K On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 1:27 PM, John Holmblad jholmb...@acadiasecurenets.com mailto:jholmb...@acadiasecurenets.com wrote: All, I finally had a chance to visit an ATT store near me to check out iphone service plan pricing. In the process I learned that the iphone does NOT support tethering (via bluetooth or otherwise) of other devices to it for the purpose of Internet access for such other devices. Furthermore I learned that ATT, like Verizon Wireless, has 2 choices of data plans for those devices that DO support tethering as explained to me by their salesperson. These choices are 1. Device only Internet access $30 US/month 2. #1 above + Device Tethering capability $60 US/month^1 (there is a limit of 5gb/month put on this) ATT also has a data only plan for users who just want to use a USB or Cardbus adapter for mobile Internet access for their PC or other device. The monthly charge for that plan, called Data Connect is $60/month also with a 5gb limit but with overage charges for use beyond the 5 gb/month. I should note that the $60 US/month for pricing plan #2 above from ATT compares with a price of $44.99 US/month^2 from Verizon which has the same 5gb monthly limit (stated in its fine print), a ~$15 US/month price difference in favor of Verizon Wireless vs ATT. -- Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks, LLC * * mailto:jholmb...@verizon.net mailto:jholmb...@verizon.net ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org mailto:maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- In Vino Veritas http://rubbernecking.info ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org mailto:maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- Jonathan Greene +1.914.750.8740 AIM / iChat - atmasphere gtalk / jabber - jonathangre...@gmail.com mailto:jonathangre...@gmail.com Skype / Gizmo - JonathanGreene blogs - http://www.atmasphere.net/wp / http://www.maemoapps.com Sent from: New York New York United States. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org mailto:maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- Jose Vargas ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- Jose Vargas -- Jose Vargas ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Iphone + tethering - No Way
Jonathan, I did not ask the sales rep, HOW ATT prevents tethering on the iphone and it did not occur to me that they would use the user identity and account info derived from the SIM to prevent tethering. For that to work, the ATT network would have to be able to determine when a device was attempting to tether while authenticated with a SIM and user account that did not allow that. I just assume that the iphone hw+sw was designed to not include tethering capability, from Apple, at least. As Jose points out, there is at least one app available to turn the iphone into an IEEE 802.11 Access Point. Now, I have to ask, does jailbreaking the iphone violate the ATT commercial terms of its use on the ATT Network? And speaking of data volume limits for these plans, I have learned that a good way to exceed the 5gb limit per month of either ATT's or Verizon Wireless's data plan is to start doing RDP or VNC sessions to other computers/servers from a computer that is tethered to your mobile device. Then launch a www browser on the target computer/server and visit your typical www sites (I am not even talking about, say youtube here) using that browser on that computer/server. With all the rich graphics. and dancing baloney on today's typical www site you will quickly consume that 5 gb on the mobile network with all the graphical content being played out over the RDP or VNC session. Actually I am making a bit of an assumption here, because so far I have only tried this using RDP. VNC may be more bit efficient. I understand that Citrix, the original developer of the RDP components that Microsoft uses, themselves have a more efficient version of RDP (RDP+?} that is, well, more efficient when it comes to the video part of RDP. In fact, and speaking only based on my experience with the typical real bandwidths (~300kbps in the direction to the tethered device) that I get over the Verizon Wireless network in the locations where I use it, I get that old dial up/slow-mo feeling sometimes when using this service. The performance is bad enough that I wish it would be better, but good enough that I keep using it. Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks, LLC * * Jonathan Greene wrote: I've been using the original iPhone SIM in various devices for years now and I tether all kinds of mobile devices from laptops, N810, netbooks ... no issues. I've cleared 2Gb a few times, but 5 would be more like your only connection ... On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Kevin T. Neely ktne...@astroturfgarden.com wrote: FWIW, I don't have an iphone, but I do have a $15/mo unlimited (which means 5GB) plan from ATT and I tether my laptop to that. K On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 1:27 PM, John Holmblad jholmb...@acadiasecurenets.com wrote: All, I finally had a chance to visit an ATT store near me to check out iphone service plan pricing. In the process I learned that the iphone does NOT support tethering (via bluetooth or otherwise) of other devices to it for the purpose of Internet access for such other devices. Furthermore I learned that ATT, like Verizon Wireless, has 2 choices of data plans for those devices that DO support tethering as explained to me by their salesperson. These choices are 1. Device only Internet access $30 US/month 2. #1 above + Device Tethering capability $60 US/month^1 (there is a limit of 5gb/month put on this) ATT also has a data only plan for users who just want to use a USB or Cardbus adapter for mobile Internet access for their PC or other device. The monthly charge for that plan, called Data Connect is $60/month also with a 5gb limit but with overage charges for use beyond the 5 gb/month. I should note that the $60 US/month for pricing plan #2 above from ATT compares with a price of $44.99 US/month^2 from Verizon which has the same 5gb monthly limit (stated in its fine print), a ~$15 US/month price difference in favor of Verizon Wireless vs ATT. -- Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks, LLC * * mailto:jholmb...@verizon.net ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- In Vino Veritas http://rubbernecking.info ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Nokia device usage
James, as you are well aware, a user of a Microsoft Desktop or Server OS is not required to use Outlook for email. Mozilla Thunderbird works quite well on Microsoft OS's and of course there is Evolution. I should add that, just as Microsoft has mitigated/eliminated well known vulnerabilities in earlier versions of the Microsoft OS's through the release of improved versions of their OS's including Sever 2003/2008, XP SP1/2/3, and Vista and Vista SP1, Microsoft has also mitigated/eliminated many vulnerabilities in the components of earlier versions of Microsoft Office with the release of Microsoft Office 2007. Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks, LLC James Knott wrote: kenneth marken wrote: Bottom line, there are a lot of technical and usage reasons that make it much harder for malware to attack Linux/Unix. the big problem here is that the target for said malware have changed... its no longer about bringing down whole systems. these days its the users data they are after. credit card info, codes of all kinds, and just about anything else. was there not a sweep of ransom attacks where a worm would archive the whole content of the users document dir, and encrypt the archive? leaving a message to send x amount of money to some account for the password? under these situations, read access is more then enough access, most of the time. the only option i can see for the user then is to run every program he tries to make use of online, inside some kind of chroot can. but even thats not perfect. basically, the only really safe option is to yank that plug, and use only home-coded apps... Again, it's harder. In Outlook, for example, a virus attached to an email could run as soon as the message was read, without the user having to do anything. For a virus to run in Linux, the user would have to: 1) detach the file 2) make it executable 3) manually run it In short, it won't run without the user taking 3 deliberate steps to run it. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Iphone + tethering - No Way
RDP and VNC are pretty light as far as full graphical protocols go, although you may be right about eating up the usage. Still, I'd imagine actually DOING the web browsing on a tethered phone would use just as much data. I can easily chew through 20-30MB on train ride just doing my mail. ICA is Citrix's lighter protocol. K On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 7:04 PM, John Holmblad jholmb...@acadiasecurenets.com wrote: Jonathan, I did not ask the sales rep, HOW ATT prevents tethering on the iphone and it did not occur to me that they would use the user identity and account info derived from the SIM to prevent tethering. For that to work, the ATT network would have to be able to determine when a device was attempting to tether while authenticated with a SIM and user account that did not allow that. I just assume that the iphone hw+sw was designed to not include tethering capability, from Apple, at least. As Jose points out, there is at least one app available to turn the iphone into an IEEE 802.11 Access Point. Now, I have to ask, does jailbreaking the iphone violate the ATT commercial terms of its use on the ATT Network? And speaking of data volume limits for these plans, I have learned that a good way to exceed the 5gb limit per month of either ATT's or Verizon Wireless's data plan is to start doing RDP or VNC sessions to other computers/servers from a computer that is tethered to your mobile device. Then launch a www browser on the target computer/server and visit your typical www sites (I am not even talking about, say youtube here) using that browser on that computer/server. With all the rich graphics. and dancing baloney on today's typical www site you will quickly consume that 5 gb on the mobile network with all the graphical content being played out over the RDP or VNC session. Actually I am making a bit of an assumption here, because so far I have only tried this using RDP. VNC may be more bit efficient. I understand that Citrix, the original developer of the RDP components that Microsoft uses, themselves have a more efficient version of RDP (RDP+?} that is, well, more efficient when it comes to the video part of RDP. In fact, and speaking only based on my experience with the typical real bandwidths (~300kbps in the direction to the tethered device) that I get over the Verizon Wireless network in the locations where I use it, I get that old dial up/slow-mo feeling sometimes when using this service. The performance is bad enough that I wish it would be better, but good enough that I keep using it. Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks, LLC * * Jonathan Greene wrote: I've been using the original iPhone SIM in various devices for years now and I tether all kinds of mobile devices from laptops, N810, netbooks ... no issues. I've cleared 2Gb a few times, but 5 would be more like your only connection ... On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Kevin T. Neely ktne...@astroturfgarden.com wrote: FWIW, I don't have an iphone, but I do have a $15/mo unlimited (which means 5GB) plan from ATT and I tether my laptop to that. K On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 1:27 PM, John Holmblad jholmb...@acadiasecurenets.com wrote: All, I finally had a chance to visit an ATT store near me to check out iphone service plan pricing. In the process I learned that the iphone does NOT support tethering (via bluetooth or otherwise) of other devices to it for the purpose of Internet access for such other devices. Furthermore I learned that ATT, like Verizon Wireless, has 2 choices of data plans for those devices that DO support tethering as explained to me by their salesperson. These choices are 1. Device only Internet access $30 US/month 2. #1 above + Device Tethering capability $60 US/month^1 (there is a limit of 5gb/month put on this) ATT also has a data only plan for users who just want to use a USB or Cardbus adapter for mobile Internet access for their PC or other device. The monthly charge for that plan, called Data Connect is $60/month also with a 5gb limit but with overage charges for use beyond the 5 gb/month. I should note that the $60 US/month for pricing plan #2 above from ATT compares with a price of $44.99 US/month^2 from Verizon which has the same 5gb monthly limit (stated in its fine print), a ~$15 US/month price difference in favor of Verizon Wireless vs ATT. -- Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks, LLC * * mailto:jholmb...@verizon.net ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- In Vino Veritas http://rubbernecking.info ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org
Re: Iphone + tethering - No Way
Hey I've also used the iPhone sim for data etc in a less locked-down device. Have you noticed the strange text messages you get whenever there's a status change on the voicemailbox? It can be annoying. The text message is a URL and appears to be related to iPhone's special handling of voicemail. It would be nice if we could figure out their special voicemail handler, or, barring that, just filter out these messages. Jonathan Greene atmasph...@atmasphere.net wrote: I've been using the original iPhone SIM in various devices for years now and I tether all kinds of mobile devices from laptops, N810, netbooks ... no issues. I've cleared 2Gb a few times, but 5 would be more like your only connection ... -- Brad Midgley ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
