mer users?

2009-07-23 Thread sean
Is anyone here trying to use Mer as their main OS on their tablet?
If so, just wondering about their impressions and have you found it
stable enough for regular use?
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Re: 2Gb internal storage on N810

2009-07-23 Thread Frantisek Dufka
Eero Tamminen wrote:

 1. with constant swap file writes, it's much easier to
 accidentally cause the card FAT file system to get corrupted
...

 If you want swap, I would suggest a fast SD card with a separate
 _partition_ for swap

AFAIK since version 2.4 of linux kernel, swapping to file no longer goes 
via filesystem code at all and speed is similar/same to swapping to 
block device directly. Kernel swapping code makes mapping for blocks 
belonging to swap file on the beginning and then uses underlying block 
device directly (both for speed and for deadlock prevention). If the 
file is not heavily fragmented speed should be the same. Fragmentation 
is visible in kernel log when swap file is enabled (number of extents).

As for corruption I'm not sure but I'd say it is not an issue too since 
file is already allocated and filesystem code is not used when swapping.

Frantisek
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Re: 2Gb internal storage on N810

2009-07-23 Thread Gary
Frantisek Dufka wrote:
 AFAIK since version 2.4 of linux kernel, swapping to file no longer goes 
 via filesystem code at all and speed is similar/same to swapping to 
 block device directly.

That is true but in this case, AFAIK, with the maemo control panel
you're building a swap file on a FAT32 file system. That would most
likely result in a different performance metric than if you built a swap
file on top of ext3 or used a raw swap slice. Someone please correct me
if I'm wrong, however, as I've considered partitioning up my own SD
cards. I do know that the I/O throughput varies greatly from card to
card which is why the high speed SDHC cards are more expensive depending
on the speed class. q.v. http://www.sdcard.org/developers/tech/speed_class

-Gary
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Re: 2Gb internal storage on N810

2009-07-23 Thread Matan Ziv-Av
On Thu, 23 Jul 2009, Gary wrote:

 Frantisek Dufka wrote:
 AFAIK since version 2.4 of linux kernel, swapping to file no longer goes
 via filesystem code at all and speed is similar/same to swapping to
 block device directly.

 That is true but in this case, AFAIK, with the maemo control panel
 you're building a swap file on a FAT32 file system. That would most
 likely result in a different performance metric than if you built a swap
 file on top of ext3 or used a raw swap slice. Someone please correct me
 if I'm wrong,

You are wrong. A simplified version of what happens:
At swapon time, the kernel builds a table in RAM of where all the blocks 
of the swap file are. Later during swap in/out the table is used and 
filesystem is ignored. So filesystem might affect the time to run 
swapon, which happens once at boot time, but does not matter to the swap 
performance after that.



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Fwd: mer users?

2009-07-23 Thread William Dowden
Forwarding this question to the  Maemo Users' List.

-- Forwarded message --
From: sean tech.j...@myfairpoint.net
Date: Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 9:14 PM
Subject: Re: mer users?
To: William Dowden wtdow...@gmail.com


William Dowden wrote:
 Yes, good question!   I would like to ask further, has anyone here even
 attempted to use Mer on their tablet, main OS or dual booted?If so,
 we would love to hear about that project.

 On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 12:02 PM, sean tech.j...@myfairpoint.net
 mailto:tech.j...@myfairpoint.net wrote:

 Is anyone here trying to use Mer as their main OS on their tablet?
 If so, just wondering about their impressions and have you found it
 stable enough for regular use?
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You only responded to me, not to the list.
Suggest you repost to the list and I look forward to the replies you
receive.
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