Re: Recording calls
2010/1/14 Kahlil Johnson jzare...@gmail.com: On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 9:01 AM, Dave Neary dne...@maemo.org wrote: Thomas Wälti wrote: The documented method looks really hacky, IMHO the gstreamer based method of Zaheer Abbas Merali (gst guru par excellence :-) posted in http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=464494postcount=50 should be the way to go. Using nokiaaacenc, you could probably directly save as AAC What about a real free format like OGG vorbis? Um.. speex? -- I appear to be temporarily using gmail's horrible interface. I apologise for any failure in my part in trying to make it do the right thing with post formatting. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Deactivate buggy portrait mode on N900
Hello, since last week, I can use my N900 in portrait mode after using the phone app in portrait mode and hanging up. However, it is not working properly -- some icons and widgets are located off the screen and cannot be accessed. I appreciate that feature but would like to wait until it is actually more usable. The thing is that i cannot reproducably switch back to landscape mode: Sometimes the phone switches back after locking and unlocking it; sometimes some application cause it to switch back. I want to disable the portrait mode feature generally until it is ready for use. Can anybody tell me how i do this? Johas PS. I read somewhere that you can activate portrait mode with the newest firmware by pressing ctrl+shift+o in the browser app. However, I don't remember doing this and it doesn't help turning the feature off again. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
RE: repository.maemo.org gone?
Should be better now. The change has been propagating for a while now. Tero From: maemo-users-boun...@maemo.org [mailto:maemo-users-boun...@maemo.org] On Behalf Of ext Timo Pelkonen Sent: 18 January, 2010 08:11 To: maemo-users@maemo.org Subject: Re: repository.maemo.org gone? 2010/1/18 David Hagood david.hag...@gmail.commailto:david.hag...@gmail.com I went to install Carman today, and it seemps repository.maemo.orghttp://repository.maemo.org is not resolving - I get an NXDOMAIN on it, from several sources, including going directly to the name servers for maemo.orghttp://maemo.org. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.orgmailto:maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users Problem with servers because of the server move. Just wait and try again for example in 2-4 hours. Ossipena / Timo ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Any way to get HTML email in MfE on N900?
Paul Hartman escribiu: Hi, With the PR1.1 firmware my N900 is finally able to connect to my employer's Exchange 2003 server. Everything seems to be working great except I'm only getting the emails in plain text. My other e-mail accounts are able to see HTML e-mails (with images etc), it's only isolated to the MfE account. Is there a way to enable HTML mail for MfE or is it limited to text only? You shouldn't need to do anything yo view HTML email in Modest. Actually if your message is like multipart/alternative with both text and html parts, we always try to show the HTML one. Br ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Deactivate buggy portrait mode on N900
- Original message - since last week, I can use my N900 in portrait mode after using the phone app in portrait mode and hanging up. However, it is Seems like you hit a bug in the transition from portrait to landscape: afaik it is not yet possible to use the application manager in portrait mode. Please file a bug, with as much detail as you can especially if you can reproduce it. A. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Deactivate buggy portrait mode on N900
2010/1/18 Andrea Borgia and...@borgia.bo.it - Original message - since last week, I can use my N900 in portrait mode after using the phone app in portrait mode and hanging up. However, it is Seems like you hit a bug in the transition from portrait to landscape: afaik it is not yet possible to use the application manager in portrait mode. Please file a bug, with as much detail as you can especially if you can reproduce it. A. It is an easter egg. only bugreport that is reasonable could be that easter egg can't be disabled. but one has to input ctr+shift+o when at browser to enable the easter egg aka portrait mode for the browser. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Deactivate buggy portrait mode on N900
ext Timo Pelkonen wrote: 2010/1/18 Andrea Borgia and...@borgia.bo.itmailto:and...@borgia.bo.it - Original message - since last week, I can use my N900 in portrait mode after using the phone app in portrait mode and hanging up. However, it is Seems like you hit a bug in the transition from portrait to landscape: afaik it is not yet possible to use the application manager in portrait mode. Please file a bug, with as much detail as you can especially if you can reproduce it. A. It is an easter egg. only bugreport that is reasonable could be that easter egg can't be disabled. but one has to input ctr+shift+o when at browser to enable the easter egg aka portrait mode for the browser. No, it's a real bug: I have witnessed it without using the browser. Most likely a race or wrong locking because those few times it happened, the device was somehow slow and i bet some non-protected sequence completed in a time significantly different from its usual execution. igor ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Recording calls
O Sáb, 16-01-2010 ás 04:14 +0100, sebastian maemo escribiu: Of course, laws depend very much on the country you live... but IMHO recording a conversation in YOUR own phone is perfectly legal and you don't need to warn anybody about it, because you are recording YOUR conversation... In Spain you have to warn the other person about it and that's why everytime you call a call center they warn you about they might be recording it. Br. -- Xabier Rodríguez Calvar Computer Engineer IGALIA http://www.igalia.com signature.asc Description: Esta é unha parte de mensaxe asinada dixitalmente ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Deactivate buggy portrait mode on N900
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 5:50 AM, Igor Stoppa igor.sto...@nokia.com wrote: No, it's a real bug: I have witnessed it without using the browser. I have also. I've been attempting to find a way of intentionally reproducing it, but I have not yet had success in that, so I haven't yet opened a bug report. I can say that (on my N900 at least) when this bug is in effect, using slide to unlock will force the UI back into landscape temporarily--until I use the phone app in portrait again. Rebooting the N900 clears the problem. -stephen ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Recording calls
The problem is to find a compromise between: a) CPU/power usage b) Encoding efficiency c) Playback capability d) API availability Due to a) and d), I'm only looking at the gstreamer encoders available on the N900. Du to c) I have dropped the ANB and AWB codecs from evaluation - I was unable to quickly find a standard software for playback on Windows (e.g. WMP or VLC bot failed) Tonight, I'll try low bitrate AAC as it is probably a good compromise between these factors. I will also try speex, as it's on the N900 by default and technically ideally for encoding this kind of audio. However, I'm not so sure about playback capability on Windows :-) Is Speex on the N900 using the DSP? Because I guess that all NokiXXXenc are, e.g. the AAC one. Thanks -Tom On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 09:37, Harri Haataja realbla...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/1/14 Kahlil Johnson jzare...@gmail.com: On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 9:01 AM, Dave Neary dne...@maemo.org wrote: Thomas Wälti wrote: The documented method looks really hacky, IMHO the gstreamer based method of Zaheer Abbas Merali (gst guru par excellence :-) posted in http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=464494postcount=50 should be the way to go. Using nokiaaacenc, you could probably directly save as AAC What about a real free format like OGG vorbis? Um.. speex? ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Deactivate buggy portrait mode on N900
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 13:53, Stephen Gadsby stephen.gad...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 5:50 AM, Igor Stoppa igor.sto...@nokia.com wrote: No, it's a real bug: I have witnessed it without using the browser. I have also. I've been attempting to find a way of intentionally reproducing it, but I have not yet had success in that, so I haven't yet opened a bug report. I saw this recently when trying to reproduce bug 8111 in Catorise. STEPS TO REPRODUCE 0) Ensure Phone is set to always portrait 1) As root, edit /etc/xdg/menus/hildon/applications.menu 2) Add an include of Filenamertcom-call-ui.desktop/Filename 3) Launch Phone from the More... menu 4) Close Phone. EXPECTED OUTCOME UI rotates back to landscape. ACTUAL OUTCOME UI stays in portrait mode. OTHER COMMENTS This seems to be a well known exploit for getting portrait mode in 1.2009.x: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=443651 HTH, Andrew -- Andrew Flegg -- mailto:and...@bleb.org | http://www.bleb.org/ ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Developing for WebOS on the WEB -- can Nokia step up
On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 10:52 PM, Kahlil Johnson jzare...@gmail.com wrote: Everyone in the chat was delighted and wonder if Maemo could do something like for their widgets at least. Maybe it could be cool to have. I know Nokia is well invested in the Qt platform but doing a web driven development could be something that could result pretty awesome stuff. This seems to be an application development environment on the web, like mozilla's Bespin. I don't see the big benefit. -- Ville M. Vainio http://tinyurl.com/vainio ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Deactivate buggy portrait mode on N900
You are right, this bug is not connected to the Ctrl+Alt+O easter egg in maemo browser, it showed up before i even knew about this easter egg. Restarting the device did work, no more buggy portrait mode. Besides, I deinstalled the Break app as proposed in http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=443651 Thanks alot. Johas ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Any way to get HTML email in MfE on N900?
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 3:59 AM, Sergio Villar Senin svil...@igalia.com wrote: Paul Hartman escribiu: Hi, With the PR1.1 firmware my N900 is finally able to connect to my employer's Exchange 2003 server. Everything seems to be working great except I'm only getting the emails in plain text. My other e-mail accounts are able to see HTML e-mails (with images etc), it's only isolated to the MfE account. Is there a way to enable HTML mail for MfE or is it limited to text only? You shouldn't need to do anything yo view HTML email in Modest. Actually if your message is like multipart/alternative with both text and html parts, we always try to show the HTML one. Strange, it seems mine is behaving the opposite. The same e-mails in Outlook Web Access or in Outlook proper have colors/images like normal, but everything is text-only (no images, no colors) in modest. My gmail/ovi show the full HTML emails properly in modest, only the MfE account doesn't. Maybe I should file a bug? Thanks, Paul ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Recording calls
On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 12:39 AM, Craig Woodward wo...@rochester.rr.com wrote: In any case, this is not new territory for phones in general or for Nokia. Several Nokia phones have had the ability to record conversations. My Nokia 6230i has the ability to record calls, but for legal notification reasons emits a muted beep/tone every 5 seconds while it's recording. The tone is at about 10% of the volume of the call and lasts 1/2 second, every 5 seconds. In Symbian phones there are many call recorder apps, including the ability to disable the warning beep (since it's not required in all places, as you described). Recording into various formats (AMR seems preferred for voice since it has a very small size). And features like auto-uploading your conversations to a FTP/web server for later reference, rather than storing all only on the phone. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Recording calls
Some guidance (very limited though) from Wikipedia on the legal aspects. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telephone_recording_laws Hartti On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 7:14 PM, sebastian maemo sebastian.ma...@gmail.comwrote: 2010/1/14 Kevin T. Neely ktne...@astroturfgarden.com Recording conversations is a useful tool, but also illegal or highly regulated in many jurisdictions, so that might deter developers somewhat. I'm not a lawyer... but I think you're wrong (in general). Of course, laws depend very much on the country you live... but IMHO recording a conversation in YOUR own phone is perfectly legal and you don't need to warn anybody about it, because you are recording YOUR conversation... What is completely illegal is to record conversations of other people, or even making illegal use of your own conversations when other people is involved... That's MHO and I'm not a lawyer :-P -- Salut, Sebas ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
IM client cannot connect to ICQ anymore
Hello, I have the additional protocols package for the built-in IM client installed and one ICQ account configured. Since about two weeks, ICQ refuses to connect. I suspect this being the same problem with ClientLogin that Pidgin suffered from some time ago, but I cannot find a useful error message, the only thing I see is the yellow popup saying one or more accounts were unable to connect - translated loosely from german. Which is no more than it doesn't work which would be accepted in no Linux related board... Does telepathy keep logs anywhere? Or another hint? -- Marcel ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Recording calls
Just one thought on this: Most people are going to do playback on the device. I would focus on the best codec available for recording and playback on the N900. If people want to use it some other place, maybe making an export function (for Wav or MP3 or whatever) would suffice. Worst case, make a selectable setting for which codec to use and let the user decide? One idea: Most phone conversations are mono. Maybe a good strategy would be to record in stereo, with inbound on one channel and out-bound on the other? It would make listening to it later interesting, since you could balance out one side or the other to catch pieces obscured by overlap? Would also help clarify who said what on a 2-party call at least. What's the app/widget garage name? Would love to load it up and take it for a test drive. I miss this from my 6230, though I honestly don't use it often. (Had a hot key for it to turn it on while driving in case there was something I needed to take note of for later. Hard to take notes while driving. :) Thomas Wälti twae...@gmail.com wrote: = The problem is to find a compromise between: a) CPU/power usage b) Encoding efficiency c) Playback capability d) API availability Due to a) and d), I'm only looking at the gstreamer encoders available on the N900. Du to c) I have dropped the ANB and AWB codecs from evaluation - I was unable to quickly find a standard software for playback on Windows (e.g. WMP or VLC bot failed) Tonight, I'll try low bitrate AAC as it is probably a good compromise between these factors. I will also try speex, as it's on the N900 by default and technically ideally for encoding this kind of audio. However, I'm not so sure about playback capability on Windows :-) Is Speex on the N900 using the DSP? Because I guess that all NokiXXXenc are, e.g. the AAC one. Thanks -Tom On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 09:37, Harri Haataja realbla...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/1/14 Kahlil Johnson jzare...@gmail.com: On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 9:01 AM, Dave Neary dne...@maemo.org wrote: Thomas Wälti wrote: The documented method looks really hacky, IMHO the gstreamer based method of Zaheer Abbas Merali (gst guru par excellence :-) posted in http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=464494postcount=50 should be the way to go. Using nokiaaacenc, you could probably directly save as AAC What about a real free format like OGG vorbis? Um.. speex? ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Recording calls
I have now uploaded my recaller widget to the autobuilder, it built OK and should show up in extras-devel during the next hours (IF the servers work again - I have 0.2.0 of sleeper still not showing up in the package interface after 2 hours in the queue). The widget is encoding in AAC stereo right now at 128 kBit - this takes about 1 MB per minute in very good quality. Probably overkill, but the 27 GB in MyDcos give you 460h of recording time, so everything has become a bit relative on a monster like the N900 :-) And yes, the widget can also be used as a simple recorder/dictaphone. Best regards -Tom Just one thought on this: Most people are going to do playback on the device. I would focus on the best codec available for recording and playback on the N900. If people want to use it some other place, maybe making an export function (for Wav or MP3 or whatever) would suffice. Worst case, make a selectable setting for which codec to use and let the user decide? One idea: Most phone conversations are mono. Maybe a good strategy would be to record in stereo, with inbound on one channel and out-bound on the other? It would make listening to it later interesting, since you could balance out one side or the other to catch pieces obscured by overlap? Would also help clarify who said what on a 2-party call at least. What's the app/widget garage name? Would love to load it up and take it for a test drive. I miss this from my 6230, though I honestly don't use it often. (Had a hot key for it to turn it on while driving in case there was something I needed to take note of for later. Hard to take notes while driving. :) Thomas Wälti twae...@gmail.com wrote: = The problem is to find a compromise between: a) CPU/power usage b) Encoding efficiency c) Playback capability d) API availability Due to a) and d), I'm only looking at the gstreamer encoders available on the N900. Du to c) I have dropped the ANB and AWB codecs from evaluation - I was unable to quickly find a standard software for playback on Windows (e.g. WMP or VLC bot failed) Tonight, I'll try low bitrate AAC as it is probably a good compromise between these factors. I will also try speex, as it's on the N900 by default and technically ideally for encoding this kind of audio. However, I'm not so sure about playback capability on Windows :-) Is Speex on the N900 using the DSP? Because I guess that all NokiXXXenc are, e.g. the AAC one. Thanks -Tom On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 09:37, Harri Haataja realbla...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/1/14 Kahlil Johnson jzare...@gmail.com: On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 9:01 AM, Dave Neary dne...@maemo.org wrote: Thomas Wälti wrote: The documented method looks really hacky, IMHO the gstreamer based method of Zaheer Abbas Merali (gst guru par excellence :-) posted in http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=464494postcount=50 should be the way to go. Using nokiaaacenc, you could probably directly save as AAC What about a real free format like OGG vorbis? Um.. speex? ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Forced Upgrade to N900 from N810
On Thursday 14 January 2010 16:01:47 Peter Bart wrote: Where might I find GPE? Peter, The GPE apps for Fremantle are in extras-testing, meaning that they are effectively in Beta status. I have found and fixed a number of problems and new versions will be created soon, I hope. Note that they have (mostly) not been ported to be finger-friendly (you will see what I mean when you try them). The N900 comes with contacts and calendar/todo apps so it is not clear the GPE apps are very useful on the N900. But I do intend to eventually get them into Extras. Graham ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Recording calls
On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Timo Pelkonen pelt...@gmail.com wrote: IMO developer could was his/hers hands just by adding disclaimer to licence conditions. Something like make sure recording calls is legal before using this software. but I'm not lawyer so this is uneducated guess. reasoned from the fact that kitchen knives can be sold even after people are stabbed to death with few of those sold... You mean like every image viewer has a warning that viewing some images might be illegal in some places? Or like every text editor has a warning that you should make sure that what you write is legal where you are? -- Matan. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Recording calls
I am having problems installing recaller. App manager says Application packages missing: Python-dbus(=0.83.0-1maemo3) I have python installed on the device including that same version of python-dbus package. To be sure of it, I installed it again from extras-devel repository. Is the capitalization the problem here? Has someone successfully installed the app? Hartti On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 2:14 PM, Thomas Waelti twae...@gmail.com wrote: I have now uploaded my recaller widget to the autobuilder, it built OK and should show up in extras-devel during the next hours (IF the servers work again - I have 0.2.0 of sleeper still not showing up in the package interface after 2 hours in the queue). The widget is encoding in AAC stereo right now at 128 kBit - this takes about 1 MB per minute in very good quality. Probably overkill, but the 27 GB in MyDcos give you 460h of recording time, so everything has become a bit relative on a monster like the N900 :-) And yes, the widget can also be used as a simple recorder/dictaphone. Best regards -Tom Just one thought on this: Most people are going to do playback on the device. I would focus on the best codec available for recording and playback on the N900. If people want to use it some other place, maybe making an export function (for Wav or MP3 or whatever) would suffice. Worst case, make a selectable setting for which codec to use and let the user decide? One idea: Most phone conversations are mono. Maybe a good strategy would be to record in stereo, with inbound on one channel and out-bound on the other? It would make listening to it later interesting, since you could balance out one side or the other to catch pieces obscured by overlap? Would also help clarify who said what on a 2-party call at least. What's the app/widget garage name? Would love to load it up and take it for a test drive. I miss this from my 6230, though I honestly don't use it often. (Had a hot key for it to turn it on while driving in case there was something I needed to take note of for later. Hard to take notes while driving. :) Thomas Wälti twae...@gmail.com wrote: = The problem is to find a compromise between: a) CPU/power usage b) Encoding efficiency c) Playback capability d) API availability Due to a) and d), I'm only looking at the gstreamer encoders available on the N900. Du to c) I have dropped the ANB and AWB codecs from evaluation - I was unable to quickly find a standard software for playback on Windows (e.g. WMP or VLC bot failed) Tonight, I'll try low bitrate AAC as it is probably a good compromise between these factors. I will also try speex, as it's on the N900 by default and technically ideally for encoding this kind of audio. However, I'm not so sure about playback capability on Windows :-) Is Speex on the N900 using the DSP? Because I guess that all NokiXXXenc are, e.g. the AAC one. Thanks -Tom On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 09:37, Harri Haataja realbla...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/1/14 Kahlil Johnson jzare...@gmail.com: On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 9:01 AM, Dave Neary dne...@maemo.org wrote: Thomas Wälti wrote: The documented method looks really hacky, IMHO the gstreamer based method of Zaheer Abbas Merali (gst guru par excellence :-) posted in http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=464494postcount=50 should be the way to go. Using nokiaaacenc, you could probably directly save as AAC What about a real free format like OGG vorbis? Um.. speex? ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Recording calls
Yeah, saw that too right now after waking up. I've now uploaded a 2nd build with a minuscule P... That's what -devel is for :-) -Tom I am having problems installing recaller. App manager says Application packages missing: Python-dbus(=0.83.0-1maemo3)I have python installed on the device including that same version of python-dbus package. To be sure of it, I installed it again from extras-devel repository. Is the capitalization the problem here? Has someone successfully installed the app? Hartti On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 2:14 PM, Thomas Waelti twae...@gmail.com wrote: I have now uploaded my recaller widget to the autobuilder, it built OK and should show up in extras-devel during the next hours (IF the servers work again - I have 0.2.0 of sleeper still not showing up in the package interface after 2 hours in the queue). The widget is encoding in AAC stereo right now at 128 kBit - this takes about 1 MB per minute in very good quality. Probably overkill, but the 27 GB in MyDcos give you 460h of recording time, so everything has become a bit relative on a monster like the N900 :-) And yes, the widget can also be used as a simple recorder/dictaphone. Best regards -Tom Just one thought on this: Most people are going to do playback on the device. I would focus on the best codec available for recording and playback on the N900. If people want to use it some other place, maybe making an export function (for Wav or MP3 or whatever) would suffice. Worst case, make a selectable setting for which codec to use and let the user decide? One idea: Most phone conversations are mono. Maybe a good strategy would be to record in stereo, with inbound on one channel and out-bound on the other? It would make listening to it later interesting, since you could balance out one side or the other to catch pieces obscured by overlap? Would also help clarify who said what on a 2-party call at least. What's the app/widget garage name? Would love to load it up and take it for a test drive. I miss this from my 6230, though I honestly don't use it often. (Had a hot key for it to turn it on while driving in case there was something I needed to take note of for later. Hard to take notes while driving. :) Thomas Wälti twae...@gmail.com wrote: = The problem is to find a compromise between: a) CPU/power usage b) Encoding efficiency c) Playback capability d) API availability Due to a) and d), I'm only looking at the gstreamer encoders available on the N900. Du to c) I have dropped the ANB and AWB codecs from evaluation - I was unable to quickly find a standard software for playback on Windows (e.g. WMP or VLC bot failed) Tonight, I'll try low bitrate AAC as it is probably a good compromise between these factors. I will also try speex, as it's on the N900 by default and technically ideally for encoding this kind of audio. However, I'm not so sure about playback capability on Windows :-) Is Speex on the N900 using the DSP? Because I guess that all NokiXXXenc are, e.g. the AAC one. Thanks -Tom On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 09:37, Harri Haataja realbla...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/1/14 Kahlil Johnson jzare...@gmail.com: On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 9:01 AM, Dave Neary dne...@maemo.org wrote: Thomas Wälti wrote: The documented method looks really hacky, IMHO the gstreamer based method of Zaheer Abbas Merali (gst guru par excellence :-) posted in http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=464494postcount=50 should be the way to go. Using nokiaaacenc, you could probably directly save as AAC What about a real free format like OGG vorbis? Um.. speex? ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
