Re: iPad
Kate With desktop OS, stylus is just mouse replacement and not even good on that. Total use experience was nonexistent and device become just mini laptop Well said. I've had a similar convertible tablet running linux for several years (fujitsu lifebook p1510d) and I agree on every point. This is why maemo would be great scaled up to run on a larger screen. It already plays nice with mobile/touchscreen, runs on today's most power efficient hardware, and has (an evolving?) appstore presence. Ubuntu-MID might be in a similar position but without the app ecosystem. Anyway, if Nokia doesn't do something like this it seems Google is already headed in this direction with android. -- Brad Midgley ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: iPad
Mark The Apple iPad: Yawn... a huge iPod Touch/iPhone that can't possibly fit in anyone's pocket. Really? It should set a decent baseline for a good looking tablet with nice battery life. We know android and maemo could move into this space and deliver a great experience with something that is more generally useful than iPad (multitasking apps, background processes, no need to jailbreak, usb host, etc.) -- Brad Midgley ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Internal memory card is read-only
Keywan my internal memory card is read only, but in the Memory-Settings (from Control panel) the checkbox isn't activated. I tried to restart the device, but after reboot it's still read-only. I can remount it to read-write, but after one action it's read-only again. Any idea? the filesystem is corrupt. Some time ago I struggled with this and found the easiest solution was to back up and reformat the card rather than try to repair the fs. -- Brad Midgley ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Intel, Nokia announce mobile pact
Mark This is interesting. I've wondered a lot how Nokia can unify their linux offerings. The Nokia announcement follows a pact announced with LG Electronics in February to collaborate on development of smartphones based on Intel's future Moorestown silicon and Linux Moblin software. Does it mean Nokia works in at least 3 linux flavors? Are there more? (all in addition to symbian...) Brad On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 5:08 PM, Markwolfm...@gmail.com wrote: This is more than a little interesting, considering certain other developments... Mark Intel, Nokia announce mobile pact http://news.cnet.com/8301-13924_3-10270711-64.html?tag=nl.e703 ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- Brad Midgley ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: howto transfer GPS log data via BT? (Was: Re: Looking for gps logger for n810)
Hi * The Perl program mtkbabel looks like it has the potential to run on the tablet to manage data transfers and conversion, but there are 3 issues: the author wanted his app to be a prototype for implementation in gpsbabel itself. You should watch gpsbabel or get involved to help move that idea forward. -- Brad Midgley ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Ihpone on Steroids to IT G5?
John all this most likely done to keep the battery drain to a minimum... This is one of Apple's mantras, but the primary motivation for the arbitrary limitations is to maintain tight control over the platform. -- Brad Midgley ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Iphone + tethering - No Way
Hey I've also used the iPhone sim for data etc in a less locked-down device. Have you noticed the strange text messages you get whenever there's a status change on the voicemailbox? It can be annoying. The text message is a URL and appears to be related to iPhone's special handling of voicemail. It would be nice if we could figure out their special voicemail handler, or, barring that, just filter out these messages. Jonathan Greene atmasph...@atmasphere.net wrote: I've been using the original iPhone SIM in various devices for years now and I tether all kinds of mobile devices from laptops, N810, netbooks ... no issues. I've cleared 2Gb a few times, but 5 would be more like your only connection ... -- Brad Midgley ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: tracks on maemo-mapper
Olavo how to export/convert my tracks saved in memo-mapper to googleearth (xml to kml)? IIRC, it looks best if you leave out labels, something like... gpsbabel -t -i gpx -f in.gpx -o kml,labels=0 -F out.kml Brad ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: N810 with GSM radio
FC So why can't they release a N810 with embedded GSM/EDGE radio? All that is needed is a phone dialer applet. Thoughts? Comments? Expletives? It's often suggested it would be too costly or logistically difficult, but there are smaller companies that are at least trying something similar. There were a few atom-based machines being shown off at CES that will ship with 3g. One looked just like a fat n810 only with some terrible in-house OS. Nokia should be equipped to deal with logistics better than little fly-by-night operations like that. Nokia has several operating systems, product lines, feature sets, etc. One unfortunate explanation might simply be that the the maemo project was told they could not tread on the turf of another unit at Nokia. One real complication is some of the 3g networks in the US ostensibly don't allow VOIP on their network. For Nokia to remain on good terms with providers it probably isn't in their interest to make it easy to break the terms of service of your network provider. There was a booth for the Clear venture at CES. They had an impressive map showing near-complete coverage of the US. Closer inspection shows they were demonstrating coverage areas of the partners in Clear, including any network type. An actual WiMAX coverage map would have looked pretty dismal. -- Brad Midgley ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: N810 with GSM radio
One more aside... as far as I could tell, Nokia was only showing off symbian devices at their CES booth. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: miniSD Cards - Hot Pluggable?
Rick The cards are hot plugable. That's why the door has a switch in it, to give the system an idea of how it should manage the mount. It is a good idea after opening the door to check the screen for a moment to make sure there's no error message about unmounting the card. On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 11:57 PM, Rick Bilonick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it necessary to power off the N810 when installing a miniSD or microSD card? Rick B. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- Brad ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Diablo released (AGPS)
guys the fact that it wants a data connection through a cell (wifi isn't good enough) suggests that it might look to see which gsm towers are around. out of curiosity I ran hcidump so I could watch the negotiation with the cellphone. my n810 does not get cell tower info as it connects to get agps data, although it would be a cool hack if it did. I don't think there is a way to do out-of-band AT commands after DUN is running a full-on connection (so I didn't check) the only commands it did run were... ATF (OK) AT+GCAP (+GCAP: +FCLASS) AT+CPAS (ERROR) AT+CRM=? (ERROR) AT+CMEE=1 (ERROR) AT+CGDCONT=1,ip,wap.cingular and so on with the connection. probably wifi was left out of the agps menu just because it isn't the norm for connecting while on the go... -- Brad ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Diablo released (AGPS)
guys So assuming that AGPS _is_ included, would that be usable by an N800 with a bluetooth GPS? not without vendor-specific hacking for the specific gps. in other words, no. Hmm, just installed Diablo. No network traffic when starting wayfinder map - I thought the AGPS patch was going to look for an ephemeris online. It is, but you have to enable AGPS and Packet data in agps-ui program, after installing it.. Moreover, this feature is available for all GPS applications on n810, not only Maps. It's possible the agps change downloads ephemeris, but the fact that it wants a data connection through a cell (wifi isn't good enough) suggests that it might look to see which gsm towers are around. -- Brad ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Cell Phone As Modem
Nick Just as another data point... I can use either DUN or PAN through an ATT tilt. You do have to hard-reset the phone as soon as you get it and hit the reset button when it says something like installing additional sowftware since it is apparently installing something to disable DUN. I am using the tethering plan fwiw. On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 9:17 AM, Dr. Nicholas Shaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When wireless connectivity isn't available, I've connected my N800 to the Internet through my Motorola Razr v3 through Bluetooth. -- Brad ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Cell Phone As Modem
Nick I installed the PAN software on the N800 and was able to connect to the internet. Life is sort of good. pan is preferable. On some umts/hspa phones you can do data and voice simultaneously. Windows mobile can't do these at the same time if you use DUN however. -- Brad ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Best internet download speed through bluetooth phone?
guys a few more data points for DUN rates. these are all gsm phones in a umts network in the US (att). htc tilt 580kbps lg cu500 600kbps samsung sync 320kbps moto razr v3xx 550kbps I believe the tests were all using a bt1.2 adapter on one side or the other so the lg for example might be hitting a throughput ceiling for bluetooth. -- Brad ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: N810. Bluetooth networking
Guys I would like to see PAN being used for that - using DUN from Linux device to Linux device seem pretty brain dead to me, sorry. Just to spell out some of the brain damage Nils is talking about... PAN is made for multiple access as a proper access point (using a dhcp service) but using DUN it is painful. The wiki suggests hardcoding your IP addresses on the clients if you want to set up your DUN access point to handle two clients at once. -- Brad ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: bluetooth headsets
fwiw bluez-utils 3.25 has the best sbc codec performance yet on the omap processor. Cidorvan Leite has been combing over generated code and working in reorganization assembly to make it hum along much better. :) there's still integration to be done with maemo of course. When it's all done, we should be able to do hardware audio mixing and then compress and transmit the resulting stream. It would be mostly transparent to the audio apps. Brad ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: New, renamed version of 770-encode video converter now available
Andrew the alang param can take a list of languages and choose your most preferred language that is available. Two-letter tags here only work for dvd, but the list could probably have both 2- and 3- letter variations for the languages you're interested in. is there a case this wouldn't cover? Brad On Nov 24, 2007 2:09 AM, Andrew Flegg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 24, 2007 12:27 AM, Luca Olivetti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: too bad, it means there's no suitable option that can be used as a default valid for every case. For the VDR files,the audio stream info is contained in the info.vdr IIRC. For DVDs, parsing lsdvd (if available) could provide the info. Then, some -aid list and -aid id support could be added; defaulting to the first audio track which is found, and always explicitly passing -aid to mencoder. This'd've fixed Brad's DVD problem, and should help towards Luca's. Thoughts? Cheers, Andrew -- Andrew Flegg -- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.bleb.org/ ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- Brad ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Using 'bora' repos on tabletOS2006?
Norman Hacker edition is quite usable. You should give it a shot. Be sure to turn on lots of swap and try not to run too many things at once. No, you won't be able to use any bora apps on os2006. And no, there almost certainly won't be anything more official than hacker edition for 770. Brad On Nov 23, 2007 9:29 PM, Norman Steinbach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello @ all, I am quite new to the internet tablets, and since i only had the money to afford a 770 device, which annoyingly is not suported for (non-hacker) use of tabletOS2007, i would like to know if or how it is possible to install packets from the 'bora' repositories onto my device. Background is that i would like to use software like 'winzig', which requires python - but i haven't found python in the 'mistral' repos. There are also some other programs, i'm interested in (like evince as a replacement for the crappy built-in pdf-reader), but which seem not to appear being in any 'misral' repos. When i tried adding the 'bora-extras free non-free' repo into my sources.list, it only produced a bunch of error-messages when 'apt-get update'ing... Can you please help me, or is what i want principally impossible, until there will hopefully a tabletOS-2007 be released for 770 devices? Thanks greetings, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- Brad ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: New, renamed version of 770-encode video converter now available
Marius That was a good idea to look at mencoder. For some reason it gets the wrong audio track sometimes. I think this might be best for a dvd and it works on that problematic title: tablet-encode -m -alang -m en -2 -p average dvd://4 out.avi Brad On Nov 23, 2007 6:54 AM, Luca Olivetti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: En/na Marius Gedminas ha escrit: Well, in my case it isn't: I have some vdr recordings that are spanish (first language) and english (second), and with no track specified mencoder selects the second one (english). Hard coding -aid 0 solved my problem. I'm just wondering, does mencoder read ~/.mplayer/config? And do you perchance have alang = en in it? I hadn't thought of that, but, no, neither /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf nor ~/.mplayer/config have an alang option (well, the first one it has, as an example, but it is commented out). And even if it'd matter for dvds, I doubt it would for vdr recordings since I don't think that the recording itself carries information about the language name, just the ids (I may be wrong though). Bye -- Luca ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- Brad ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: New, renamed version of 770-encode video converter now available
Luca could you try -m -aid -m 0 instead of -m -alang -m en ? the result was no audio... the audio id was 128 on the title I noticed. Not sure if that's typical. -- Brad ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: New, renamed version of 770-encode video converter now available
Hey I'll reask since I meant to ask on-list. dvd://1 and dvd://2 get the english audio, but for some reason dvd://3 and dvd://4 came out spanish. This disk has csi-ny tv series... $ lsdvd -a Disc Title: DVD_VIDEO Title: 01, Length: 00:40:48.120 Chapters: 06, Cells: 06, Audio streams: 02, Subpictures: 00 Audio: 1, Language: en - English, Format: ac3, Frequency: 48000, Quantization: drc, Channels: 6, AP: 0, Content: Undefined, Stream id: 0x80 Audio: 2, Language: es - Espanol, Format: ac3, Frequency: 48000, Quantization: drc, Channels: 2, AP: 0, Content: Undefined, Stream id: 0x81 Title: 02, Length: 00:43:07.243 Chapters: 06, Cells: 06, Audio streams: 02, Subpictures: 00 Audio: 1, Language: en - English, Format: ac3, Frequency: 48000, Quantization: drc, Channels: 6, AP: 0, Content: Undefined, Stream id: 0x80 Audio: 2, Language: es - Espanol, Format: ac3, Frequency: 48000, Quantization: drc, Channels: 2, AP: 0, Content: Undefined, Stream id: 0x81 Title: 03, Length: 00:41:19.210 Chapters: 06, Cells: 06, Audio streams: 02, Subpictures: 00 Audio: 1, Language: en - English, Format: ac3, Frequency: 48000, Quantization: drc, Channels: 6, AP: 0, Content: Undefined, Stream id: 0x80 Audio: 2, Language: es - Espanol, Format: ac3, Frequency: 48000, Quantization: drc, Channels: 2, AP: 0, Content: Undefined, Stream id: 0x81 Title: 04, Length: 00:42:20.133 Chapters: 06, Cells: 06, Audio streams: 02, Subpictures: 00 Audio: 1, Language: en - English, Format: ac3, Frequency: 48000, Quantization: drc, Channels: 6, AP: 0, Content: Undefined, Stream id: 0x80 Audio: 2, Language: es - Espanol, Format: ac3, Frequency: 48000, Quantization: drc, Channels: 2, AP: 0, Content: Undefined, Stream id: 0x81 Title: 05, Length: 00:22:12.166 Chapters: 02, Cells: 02, Audio streams: 03, Subpictures: 01 Audio: 1, Language: en - English, Format: ac3, Frequency: 48000, Quantization: drc, Channels: 2, AP: 0, Content: Undefined, Stream id: 0x80 Audio: 2, Language: en - English, Format: ac3, Frequency: 48000, Quantization: drc, Channels: 2, AP: 0, Content: Undefined, Stream id: 0x81 Audio: 3, Language: en - English, Format: ac3, Frequency: 48000, Quantization: drc, Channels: 2, AP: 0, Content: Undefined, Stream id: 0x82 Title: 06, Length: 00:00:05.000 Chapters: 01, Cells: 01, Audio streams: 01, Subpictures: 00 Audio: 1, Language: en - English, Format: ac3, Frequency: 48000, Quantization: drc, Channels: 2, AP: 0, Content: Undefined, Stream id: 0x80 Title: 07, Length: 00:00:05.000 Chapters: 01, Cells: 01, Audio streams: 01, Subpictures: 00 Audio: 1, Language: en - English, Format: ac3, Frequency: 48000, Quantization: drc, Channels: 2, AP: 0, Content: Undefined, Stream id: 0x80 Title: 08, Length: 00:00:05.000 Chapters: 02, Cells: 02, Audio streams: 02, Subpictures: 00 Audio: 1, Language: en - English, Format: ac3, Frequency: 48000, Quantization: drc, Channels: 2, AP: 0, Content: Undefined, Stream id: 0x80 Audio: 2, Language: es - Espanol, Format: ac3, Frequency: 48000, Quantization: drc, Channels: 2, AP: 0, Content: Undefined, Stream id: 0x81 Brad ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: New, renamed version of 770-encode video converter now available
lsdvd give some useful output here too. On Nov 20, 2007 2:35 PM, James Sparenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 20 November 2007 01:30:51 pm Peter Flynn wrote: Andrew Flegg wrote: Many of you use my script 770-encode to transcode videos for your Nokia Internet Tablet. This name is obviously an anachronism, so to go along with the imminent availability of the N810, it's now been renamed tablet-encode and moved to a Garage project: This looks really excellent, many thanks. One small query, however, from someone who knows absolutely zilch about video files...if I insert a DVD into my Ubuntu Gutsy laptop, how do I know *which* file[s] to give as arguments to tablet-encode? The listing of /media/cdrom0 says there's an AUDIO_TS directory (empty) and a VIDEO_TS directory (full): $ ls -l /media/cdrom0/VIDEO_TS/ total 7430712 -r--r--r-- 1 4294967295 4294967295 12288 2002-03-20 11:23 VIDEO_TS.BUP -r--r--r-- 1 4294967295 4294967295 12288 2002-03-20 11:23 VIDEO_TS.IFO -r--r--r-- 1 4294967295 4294967295 10364928 2002-03-20 11:23 VIDEO_TS.VOB -r--r--r-- 1 4294967295 4294967295 88064 2002-03-20 11:23 VTS_01_0.BUP -r--r--r-- 1 4294967295 4294967295 88064 2002-03-20 11:23 VTS_01_0.IFO -r--r--r-- 1 4294967295 4294967295 379172864 2002-03-20 11:25 VTS_01_0.VOB -r--r--r-- 1 4294967295 4294967295 1073725440 2002-03-20 11:32 VTS_01_1.VOB -r--r--r-- 1 4294967295 4294967295 1073266688 2002-03-20 11:40 VTS_01_2.VOB -r--r--r-- 1 4294967295 4294967295 1073688576 2002-03-20 11:47 VTS_01_3.VOB -r--r--r-- 1 4294967295 4294967295 1073670144 2002-03-20 11:54 VTS_01_4.VOB -r--r--r-- 1 4294967295 4294967295 1073338368 2002-03-20 12:02 VTS_01_5.VOB -r--r--r-- 1 4294967295 4294967295 1073418240 2002-03-20 12:09 VTS_01_6.VOB -r--r--r-- 1 4294967295 4294967295 778203136 2002-03-20 12:14 VTS_01_7.VOB $ What do I need to list as arguments? VOB files? BUP files? IFO files? (By the same token, although unrelated here, for the --copy-audio option, how would one know if the audio track is already MP3 or not) Is there some way a self-detecting shell can be built around table-encode that will sniff at the mounted DVD and see what files are needed? ///Peter Peter, The VOB files are the ones. VOB stands for DVD Video OBject. The VOB file is one of the core files found on DVD-Video discs and contains multiplexed Dolby Digital audio. James ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- Brad ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Problem with maemo-mapper on N770
Magnus, fwiw, I was having similar problems in mm after upgrading to 2007he. After tinkering I found a reformat of the flash card was what cleared things up. Brad ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: a crank charger is dangerous for 770?
hey I've got the sidewinder crank charger (~$30). I've seen a generic model that looks very similar to the branded sidewinder for less (~$10). Apparently the cheaper no-name version does not have a voltage regulator on the output I finally got around to putting a voltmeter on this sidewinder thing and it does *not* have a regulated output (sadly) Brad ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: N810 and future directions for Maemo
David I would also like to suggest that the built-in GPS software allow for time-syncing the device: perhaps not necessarily a full NTPD implementation, but even doing the occasional ntpdate sync from the GPS would be nice to keep the clock set. maemo uses gpsd. ntp can set the time using gpsd: http://gpsd.berlios.de/gpsd.html#ntp but I'm not sure that will work with gpsd being started/stopped the way it is expected to work in maemo. you could write your own gpsd client to set the time. Brad ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: n810 GPS API?
Mihamina It's possible it uses gpsd but I haven't really seen any details yet. gpsd clients use a simple client library to talk to the daemon. Power management of the gps is also an unknown. gpsd can close its connection to the gps when no clients are connected, but I don't know if that's enough to work with for automatically powering down the idle gps. Brad ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: a crank charger is dangerous for 770?
Antonio I've got the sidewinder crank charger (~$30). I've seen a generic model that looks very similar to the branded sidewinder for less (~$10). Apparently the cheaper no-name version does not have a voltage regulator on the output so the voltage varies as you crank faster/slower. I'm not sure how much of a risk that would be. You could attach a voltmeter to see if you have a regulator. In any case the only serious cranking I've done was at the end of a hike when I wanted maemo mapper to keep logging my gps tracks after the low battery alarm started sounding. In about 15 minutes of cranking it was hard to tell if the battery had gone up at all, but at least the low-battery warning wasn't sounding during the cranking. Brad On 10/13/07, Antonio Orlando [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Today at supermarket they were giving away some crank chargers for cellphones, by promotion buying some coffee packages. So, we've got one of these, it's a little portable plastic thing with a crank, a cable and various cellphone adapters. So nice: I can plug it into the 770 and start charging... :) My question is: are these gadgets reliable enough to charge my Nokia 770 (or Nokia cellphones)? Will I brick the 770 battery if I use this thing enough? -- Antonio ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: N800 gpsbabel supporting the WBT-201
Guys I made a patch for maemo-mapper to give it menu options to load or erase the wintec log. Much easier than the command line, especially on a hiking trip :) https://garage.maemo.org/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=1193group_id=29atid=188 If you want to try it and you don't have scratchbox set up, I have a test build I could put online. Brad On 5/20/07, Jonathan Hudson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rainer, Sorry, I don't have a 770 scatchbox. And scatchbox is not entirely my favourite environment after a frustrating time failing to compile an otherwise largely trivial GTK/glade app, compounded by the twisty little maze of broken Google links after the maemo.org site upgrade. Anyway, building gpsbabel for maemo is trivial --- just type 'make'. And at http://www.daria.co.uk/gps/ there is a simple CLI application to display and set WBT-201 settings, which also compiles for maemo. -jonathan On Sun, 20 May 2007 22:22:29 +0200 Rainer Dorsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jonathan, thanks for verifying that gpsbabel works with the maemo platform. Do you have a scatchbox environment for the N770 arround? If yes, can you compile the gpsbabel version for the N770 as well? Thanks, Rainer Am Samstag, 5. Mai 2007 20:51 schrieb Jonathan Hudson: As the happy owner of a Wintec WBT-201 (great service from Semsons, four days to England), I've built (ported to far too grand) the beta gpsbabel (gpsbabel-1.3.4-beta20070415) that supports the WBT-201 to the N880, enabling the download of logged tracks to the N800, then you can load the file into Maemo Mapper. There is a tar ball at: http://www.zen35309.zen.co.uk/gpsbabel-1.3.4-beta20070415-N800.tar.gz that contains the N800 binary and a README explaining how to set up bluetooth serial connection and download (and optionally erase) the logged tracks from a WBT-201. All the other gpsbabel functions should also be there (e.g. export to kml). Hope this is useful to other N800 / WBT-201 owners. Great device, had a lot of fun today wandering around the New Forest, where it worked with accuracy and reliability, even under quite heavy foliage. Works flawlessly with Maemo Mapper. -jonathan ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: BBC reviews N800 with 3 other devices
Nicholas Regarding music, I have never gotten the FM radio to work fyi the headphones have to be in to act as an antenna even if you're using the speakers. since I'd rather have fewer wires I've been enjoying the itech bluetooth headset with an fm radio of its own. This will be great once the bluetooth drivers are in maemo. Brad ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [Fwd: Re: BBC reviews N800 with 3 other devices]
hey Even when they do have the profile, MS DUN performance is too pathetic to get excited about. I've never seen over 128Kbps using 3 different ppc devices. This was on a network that should be hitting the bt1.2 ceiling of 600+kbps. Strangely, their desktop DUN *client* is slow too, even when used with the motorola e815 flip phone that provides over 600kbps to linux clients. Brad ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: The MMC issues (was: 4.2007.38-2 available)
Patrick If you were able to revive the card then it's not the same problem. Brad On 10/5/07, Patrick Ohly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2007-10-04 at 10:15 +0300, Eero Tamminen wrote: The issue was not about SDHC compatibility but power management. There were several 2GB Sandisk Ultra II cards that had been damaged. If you use only the pre-installed/supported Nokia software you're very unlikely to trigger the issue, but e.g. with Maemo mapper that's much more likely. This is exactly what happened to me with a 2GB MMC-RS on my 770 with the hacker edition after I bought it a month ago: downloading many maps with Maemo Mapper sooner or later caused file system corruption. Reading was luckily more stable, so I reformatted on my desktop and filled the card there before going on a vacation with it. I have seen quite a few mails about this issue and read the Bugzilla entry, but as far as I can tell no one has mentioned this problem in combination with a 770. Am I the only one seeing it there? Now that the reason is known, is it possible that it also affects the kernel used for the 770? Should I create a new bug report for it in the HE tracker (as this is what I use)? -- Bye, Patrick Ohly -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.estamos.de/ ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: 4.2007.38-2 available
Fred What I'm not understanding is the big rush to update for a few minor fixes, especially if there's the known potential of extra user overhead getting the update and apps all sorted out. If it aint broke, ... but 4.2007.38 does fix a situation that can brick an sdhc card. Brad ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: 4.2007.38-2 available
guys It takes longer to read this thread than it does to reinstall my apps. At least it's improving... I used to have to restore sources.list too... brad ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Bluetooth headphones and mp3's
Ryan Keep in mind there are at least 2 bluetooth audio protocols: A2DP is stereo audio for (example) listening to music. There's an entirely separate one for hands-free headsets (like phones - do the Maemo devices support these with internet calls?) Not in the current release. However Nokia developers contribute pretty heavily to bluez where we have a maturing audio service that supports A2DP and HFP/HSP. I can't imagine why they would do that if they're not going to use it. Brad ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Bluetooth headphones and mp3's
James Severe drop out problem. Almost as if the dang thing was constantly buffering. it helped in at least one case to make the n800 prefer to be bluetooth master. in hcid.conf: lm accept,master; lp hold,sniff,park; let us know if that impacts the quality. Brad ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Bluetooth headphones and mp3's
Simon Even without avrcp, a combo headset should pause the a2dp stream when taking a voice call. The underlying avdtp protocol has messages for stream suspend. btw, the a2dpd and bluetooth-alsa stuff is an experiment. If you can afford to upgrade bluez-utils, you'll find a new audio service there that is the one being worked on. This may be a little too bleeding edge since it will require a new bluez-libs and might impact some other stuff. I haven't heard these HSP/HFP/A2DP headsets being called multipoint before but I've been calling them combo sets. The interesting thing here is the set prefers to be master on both its active connections so it can communicate with separate hifi and voice devices in a single piconet. Brad On 9/26/07, Simon Pickering [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you know if the headsets have some priority between the devices, so that I will hear the person calling in my headphones and not the music, or will I hear both? I think you need to look for the feature known as multipoint. This allows the headphones to pair and be actively connected to two devices at the same time - your N800/mp3 player and your phone. These are a bit more expensive than the normal Bluetooth stereo headphones, which can only connect with one device at a time. The Jabra bt620 headphones I have work like you are asking. I can pair with both my nokia and my cell phone at the same time. The phone takes priority when a call comes in, then I drop back to music. Some phones ring only in the headphone, mine (nokia 6103) rings both places in case I am headphone enabled but not stuck in my ear. I've never used one of these multipoint headsets so see the reply above. I imagine it may also be possible with some headsets that you need to click a button to confirm that you want to take the call. Does the music pause while you're on the call? Again this would be implementation dependent (implementation of the headset) but should work as these a2dp headsets support AVRCP too (Audio/Video Remote Control Profile). With that said, I'm not sure whether the N800's a2dp implementation implements/supports AVRCP so it may not pause the music. Anyone noticed? Simon ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Bluetooth headphones and mp3's
hey one more thing regarding mp3 streaming and battery life. If you have a set that supports mp3 decoding such as the itech r35 then we should eventually be able to ship the raw mp3 across the bluetooth link. this will require the gstreamer bluetooth plugin. this also means less time spent in transmission since mp3 encoding is more compact than sbc. This way does complicate some stuff and it may not become the approach taken in maemo. if you want to reduce RF exposure but still want to enjoy cool stuff, get a bluetooth headset that uses bt2.0/edr. brad ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Bluetooth headphones and mp3's
Simon I'm interested in moving the SBC encoding to a DSP task. we could do more on the general-purpose encoder. It's doing some boneheaded stuff currently that probably overflows the program cache (long unrolled loop) and data cache (moving around memory unnecessarily). Brad ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Possible to use the N800 as WLAN Access Point?
Toby Just a thought I had last night, but is it possible to reverse the polarity of the WLAN on the N800 and turn it into a small, portable hotspot which uses e.g. an HSDPA cellphone as the backhaul? This came up before--basically you need to be able to choose master mode in the wifi driver. I think the answer from those in the know was that master mode isn't available in the driver we have. Brad ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: N800 gpsbabel supporting the WBT-201
Guys I can also say I've had not trouble from a desktop to my wbt-100 over bluetooth. All the lights go out on the gps when it's busy but that seems to be normal. It shouldn't be too tough to put hooks into maemo mapper to give it a menu option to suspend the bt gps connection, execute gpsbabel, and load those tracks into the map. That would be really slick. brad On 5/5/07, Jonathan Hudson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rainer, I've had no problems with bluetooth, either from my Ubuntu AMD64-X2 with an MSI StarKey dongle, or from the N800. -jonathan ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: gpsbabel
Rainer, I am wonding if anybody has build gpsbabel on the maemo plattform. I would want to use it to download log data from a wintec WBT-201 GPS mouse and display it with maemo-mapper. get it working on a desktop first... I understand that wintec changed the protocol in this model and gpsbabel needs tweaks to get it to work properly. Andy Armstrong wrote a couple of weeks ago that he would figure out the new protocol and submit changes but I haven't seen anything yet. The device may still be backordered from his supplier. http://www.nabble.com/Wintec-WBT-201-t3580968.html I was right on the verge of replacing my old wintec when I saw this problem, but hopefully Andy gets it going soon. I'll definitely paypal him when that works :) Brad ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: gpsbabel
doh... spoke too soon... Andy is handing out binaries for people to test but not likely armel binaries :( http://www.nabble.com/WBT201-support-tf3663624.html#a10236945 ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: bluetooth GPS receiver
hey given the price of that product, why is the Nokia GPS so much more expensive? Is it simply the Brand name or is there some material difference in GPS resolution/flexibility/performance, etc? it's the brand name probably. every gps uses one of just a few chipsets to receive the signal. if it doesn't use sirf iii, check out the reviews and see how it compares. the ways a bt gps can differentiate is by offering logging, a small package, decent battery, or convenient charging connection. fwiw, no one has confirmed it but it may be that the wintec wbt 201 will need some more reverse engineering to get track downloads working from gpsbabel. brad ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: bluetooth GPS receiver
fwiw... If you are buying a new gps now, you can get built-in logging with no real impact on the price. And it looks like wintec fixed the signal quality problem in their data logger: http://www.semsons.com/wiwbmu3gpsre2.html I have the wbt100 model and I like it because it can store a log that can be extracted later using gpsbabel. Tracks can be retrieved over bluetooth which should be a no-brainer (some other manufacturers still haven't figured that out and require usb for xfers). My only complaint with the wbt100 was the gps receiver was only about as good as the older sirf ii models. The update in the wbt201 should bring it up almost in parity with sirf iii devices. The gps is *tiny*. I put it in one pocket when I went snowboarding and it was pretty simple to import into google earth and play back my day on the slopes. Good fun. brad ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Verizon BT DUN?
Jonathan I am using a treo 700p this way, but it feels a little goofy when what I really wanted was just a simple flipphone. Also, it doesn't perform as well as my last phone, maxing out just short of 400kbps. I had a motorola e815 that was working great with a typical 600kbps. After a mandatory firmware upgrade, my 770 (and my dell axim with no verizon app) could no longer find the dun service. fwiw, I eventually got verizon to replace the e815 with the 700p at no charge. Brad Has anyone had success connecting through a VZ phone for data connectivity? I have a friend who is going to return an N800 since he can't get online through the phone... I know VZ and Sprint have made it tough previously... but someone must have figured it out. Thanks, JG ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] audio format experiences on n770
Kahlil I suspect only the mp3 decoding is done in the dsp. Brad I have seen that the N770 had problems playing ogg podcasts, I wonder if there is a way to optimize the apps or the codecs. On 1/26/07, Jorge Salamero Sanz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i've tested 3 audio formats on the n770. (not checked bitrates, but i think vorbis, mpc are the defaults for the encoder and mp3 192kbps) mp3 = 2-4% cpu usage vorbis = 18-22% cpu usage mpc = 94% cpu usage and sounds scratched (i've compiled libmpcdec3 and gstreamer-0.10-plugins-bad) so if you want to keep your cpu usage as low as possible, use mp3 :-/ ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
[maemo-users] logging gps works, exploring Helsinki doesn't
Hey I finally traded up and got a wintec wbt-100 gps to use with maemo-mapper. This gps keeps a log of tracks internally and the cvs version of gpsbabel can read and clear the log. I've been running gpsbabel on my linux laptop to access the log. It would not be hard to get gpsbabel running on the 770 and then maemo-mapper could load and use saved tracks more directly. I'll be visiting Nokia next week but sadly I found I couldn't convince maemo-mapper to show anything from Helsinki except blank land ocean in street mode and satellite maps at a few inconvenient zoom levels. :( Brad ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] US users of Nokia 770 - compatibility with Bluetooth-enabled cellphone as modem
david I am preparing to replace my cell phone (on the verizon network, hence the US-specific question). First off, none of the pocketpc phones can reliably deliver high-speed DUN to a linux client. My guess is that the windows xp DUN client intentionally slows things down so the phone doesn't crash or drop the connection. The xv6700 will lock up solid when you try to use high-speed DUN and the samsung i730 will drop the connection randomly. The i730 I had only worked OK when NOT in an evdo coverage area. I went round and round with verizon on DUN. I'd recommend Sprint if you can switch, but if you have to use verizon, this is What I found: 1. Verizon advertises several phones as bluetooth dialup capable and even names the DUN profile in technical materials without necessarily following the profile's spec. What you get with some of these phones is bluetooth dialup *if* you are using their connection software which obviously does not work on nokia. The nokia will not even be able to discover the DUN service if this is the problem. 2. You may lose DUN at any time. Verizon removed standards-based DUN from my e815 during a required firmware upgrade. After calling them on it, they replaced it with a palm 700p, but I'm sure they will continue this practice. I hope DUN continues to work on my 700p but at least I have a hope of finding a third-party palm utility to reenable it if Verizon takes it away from me. I am paying $60 for data ($45 for unlimited pda data and $15 on top of that for the priviledge to use it through bluetooth). Sprint has the same deal in a $40 data package. Brad ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Good GPS Bluetooth module
Marius If I had done some more research before buying it I would probably have chosen the Nokia one that uses a compatible charger. If we're doing would have then I might have gotten a logging gps. The nokia still sort of locks up when reading gps data and having reliable logging inside the gps would be very nice in those situations when I want to upload my tracks later to a place like walkingboss.org. The wintec wbt-100 has an internal log and patches to gpsbabel will allow you to load the log from linux (and eventually from the nokia :) Brad ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Presentation to Local LUG
Guys Don't bother with anything that doesn't have sirf III and waas. I'm quite amazed with my itrek m3... it works indoors some places (even in the local one-story supermarket) and it easily works anywhere in the car, not just from the dashboard. Brad On Tue, May 23, 2006 at 11:45:59AM -0400, Jeremy Mcnicoll wrote: I have been looking to get a bluetooth gps, but I have not been able to find one yet. Any suggestions? Nokia has one that uses the same charger as Nokia phones. I didn't know that when I bought my NaviLock BT-308, which uses the same charger as an HP iPaq that I don't have. http://europe.nokia.com/nokia/0,,83253,00.html It seems that the LD-3W uses the same charger (DC-4) as Nokia 770, while LD-1W uses a different one (LCH-12). Marius Gedminas ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Video encoding script
Ville Here's a simple video encoding script to encode videos easily to 770 format. Maybe it'll be useful for someone: http://www.cs.tut.fi/~ranki/projects/encode770/ fwiw, I tried a couple of these with video that had no audio sync problems and it always played on the 770 with sync problems. argh. Brad ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Bad unjustified reputation ?
Guys _http://www.infoworld.com/article/06/01/02/01OPopenent_1.html_ I read it through, and I have to say I may have 10% of the problems mentioned here. Not more ! I have to agree with a recent poster that the article is not that far off. We developers love the thing because we can see the potential and fortunately the swap hack is solving the out-of-memory problem. I can't recommend this to a non-techie friend until--out of the box--the memory problem is gone, the email is fixed*, and it can keep names and dates. Brad * first, it's slow. Also the dialog asking if you want to download the message when you click next is entirely unnecessary. Have you tried clicking no? It keeps asking until you answer yes. Finally, I put two email accounts in my settings and although I understand that messages from both accounts are supposed to appear mixed together in the inbox (ugly!), the second account's email does not appear at all. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] problems after 'swapon /dev/mmcblk0p2' with 3.2005.51-13
Eero to make a comment on the original thread... activating my 30mb swap will cause the nokia to start displaying memory-low warnings and eventually reboot. i'll try 24mb next. yes, see my update at www.dillernet.com/apple I noticed this on your site: The only annoying thing is that the Return key opens and closes the virtual keyboard in the xterm. i got the little stowaway keyboard and i've been annoyed with this behavior too. i have been hitting control-m to get returns. this keyboard also has / in the wrong place so i keep moving up the cursor when i'm trying to write a pathname... brad ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
[maemo-users] two mailboxes?
Hi I created two mailboxes on my 770 but can't figure out how to switch to reading the second one. I noticed the send/receive action appears to use the default mailbox but I'm not totally sure since I have never seen the contents of the other mailbox. Brad ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
