Re: Lock, sleep, power-down
Kevin T Neely twisted the bytes to say: Kevin> On Wed, Jun 04, 2008 at 12:07:49PM -0500, David Dyer-Bennet wrote: >> >> One thing I know happens now is that touching the screen turns on the >> backlight while locked. So sitting in the case in my bag may be turning Kevin> That shouln't happen. Touching the screen should no bring the Kevin> backlight up. However, hitting one of the hard buttons ought to Kevin> bring it up, so the device can show you how to unlock it. I usually lock the keys and screen of my N800. When the Alarm clock application is triggered the screen turns on (a good thing), but if it is not attended the screen stays on until the battery dies! (bad thing) Is this a bug in the alarm software? --daniel -- -- Daniel M. German http://turingmachine.org/ http://silvernegative.com/ dmg (at) uvic (dot) ca replace (at) with @ and (dot) with . ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Bluetooth keyboard?
Mark> On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 4:17 PM, Mike Klein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Key travel sucks on them. Not a good typing experience. Hard to home >> your fingers on keys. >> >> They do look great though! >> >> If you're not a real typer you will be happy. >> >> mike >> Mark> I am definitely a touch typist, but I'm adaptable. I can use my Psion Mark> Series 5 to good effect, as well as a tiny folding IR keyboard for my Mark> Handspring Visor. (Too bad the Nokias don't have IR... of course I'd Mark> still be lacking a driver.) They both have sculpted keys, though, so Mark> it's easy to home your fingers. I'm not expecting a desktop (or even Mark> full-sized laptop) keyboard experience. Apple does tend to place form Mark> before function, image over substance, and hype above reality, so Mark> don't get me started... Mark> But I digress. What I really need to know if it's *compatible*, as in Mark> plug-and-play. If it won't work with the N800 or kubuntu out of the Mark> box, I'm not interested. yes, it is. it works with the N800 out of the box. No special configuration is needed. Mark> But if I could find something the size of my IR keyboard for a Mark> reasonable price that's compatible, I'd jump at it. $80 for the Apple Mark> keyboard is way at the top end of what I'm willing to pay, and then Mine came with a mac pro. I would never use it for day to day typing (for the reasons Mike mentioned) but it is great for the N800. --dmg Mark> only if it will work with my laptop and desktop as well. $130-$150 for Mark> something that cost the manufacturer $10 at most to make is not my Mark> idea of reasonable (the "Stowaway" model under various brands.) The Mark> even smaller thumb keyboards (akin to the built-in N810 keyboard) are Mark> not an option, either, as that would defeat the purpose. Mark> There's a cool little device that projects an image of a keyboard on Mark> any surface, but it's too expensive and won't work on a lap or leg. I Mark> forget who makes it and what it's called, but aside from the coolness Mark> factor and tiniest possible size for toting around, it also lacks any Mark> feedback feel and requires a reasonably flat and relatively large area Mark> to work. Mark> Mark -- -- Daniel M. German http://turingmachine.org/ http://silvernegative.com/ dmg (at) uvic (dot) ca replace (at) with @ and (dot) with . ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
xterm Re: further beating on OS2008 beta
Hi James, You forgot to mention that there isn't a termcap install by default! I agree with you. THe xterm is not very usable in its current state. Try using emacs with that window. I have downloaded the old xterm (version 0.14) and recompiled it for OS 2008 (I had to change some of the application names so it would not collide with osso-xterm). It works, except that the shortcuts just don't work (I have to check why). But, when used with an external keyboard, it gives you a nice full frame xterm that does not give any annoying messages when you press some Ctrl keys. And it brings tabs back. Sometime ago I was trying to find the xterm maintainer. Apparently nobody is fully in charge of it. This is probably the reason it sucks so badly. I suspect the person in charge (and please, if you, the current maintainer reads this, it is not an attack on your skills as a developer, or on your good will trying to improve xtemr) does not use the xterm for anything other than executing shell commands I have some patches that allow to send special characters (such as Ctrl-_) to the xterm (under OS 2007). I never got confirmation that were committed. (they were badly needed to run emacs inside an xterm). The repository where I got it from is : https://garage.maemo.org/svn/osso-xterm/osso-xterm/trunk but it has not been changed since Sept of this year. The OS 2008 xterm is not being hosted there (unless it is a branch). Perhaps we need to start a project to create an maemo-xterm that is intended to be used for more than just shell commands. -dmg James> All, So far a large part of my problems are sitting around apps that James> aren't yet ported to 2008. unzip, radio, mplayer, nmap, omweather James> are a few that are in the repository but don't install. For now James> there are some things I don't understand. I'm not trying to step on James> toes. I just don't understand. James> 1. Why did Nokia decide to change the industry defacto standard term James> plugin and change it to component? tools > components shows you the James> browser plugins. James> 2. Why oh Why did someone take something as useful as xterm and James> improve to the point of being almost unusable? I can't file bugs, as James> it is apparently doing what it is supposed to. However, what it James> does really drives me nuts. Maybe it's just me. Why did they remove the useful tabs and replace it with multiple James> windows? Given that there is no WM in the traditional sense you James> can't resize and move between them easily. Tabs afforded the ability James> to quickly manage multiple term windows (my record on the IT is 10 James> tabs.) Windows bring this to a grinding halt. James> Why did they move the "button" bar to the bottom. Down there is James> steals valuable screen real-estate from you. James> Why is it that they split the adjust background color and font color James> into two different locations in the settings gui? James> Why did they increase the steps to use the ctrl key in the button bar? James> Before to do cntrl-c it was 2 clicks one on cntrl one on c ... now James> it's 5. cntrl - text box - c - ok - screen during this time the James> keyboard closes 2 or 3 times. This can make vi a real PITA too. James> Perhaps I'm just using the IT differently from most, I don't view it James> as sterility a muti-media toy. To me it's my #1 tool for doing my James> job, so perhaps I'm a bit sensitive. Sorry if I sound ranty I don't James> mean to be but I am wondering why so may drastic changes were made to James> a really good app. James> James -- -- Daniel M. German http://turingmachine.org/ http://silvernegative.com/ dmg (at) uvic (dot) ca replace (at) with @ and (dot) with . ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: I have USB host!
Jesper Cheetah twisted the bytes to say: Jesper> James Sparenberg wrote: >> Ok. On OS2008 I did the following. >> >> 1. Got a femail to femail connector so I can attach keyboard cable >> to the IT USB cable. >> [...] Jesper> On an N800, not using any power-injector? I was quite certain, based Jesper> on what others said, that the USB-chip relied on external power to get Jesper> powered up. Thus, even when working as a host, it still needed to have Jesper> power injected from "outside" of the N800. I can report that the wireless keyboard Logitech S530 Mac works very well. The keyboard has its own batteries, and the N800 is able to power the wireless transceive without a problem. But I have not been able to get the wireless mouse working (which uses simultaneously the same transceiver). --dmg -- Daniel M. German http://turingmachine.org/ http://silvernegative.com/ dmg (at) uvic (dot) ca replace (at) with @ and (dot) with . ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Car holder for the N800?
Hi everybody, I own a 770 and its navigation kit. I also own a N800. Does anybody know if it is possible to buy only the holder for the N800 instaed of the entire navigation kit again? The nokia web site does not list it as separate item. Thanks a lot! daniel -- -- Daniel M. German http://turingmachine.org/ http://silvernegative.com/ dmg (at) uvic (dot) ca replace (at) with @ and (dot) with . ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
how to turn off and lock the n800 (answer)
Kemal> On 10/11/07, Daniel M German <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> ** Soft-power off mode. I have enabled it with a long press of the >> on-button. >> Unfortunately it does not disable the keys. It would be nice if it >> did, except for a long-press of the on-botton again. Kemal> softpoweroff works better if you assign it to the short press. I use Kemal> it that way and it also locks the keys. I also made it so that the Kemal> long press brings up the power menu. thanks Kemal, I finally had time to try this and it works as Kemal explains. So recapitulating, for those who were asking how to do it: * When the PowerKeyShortAction=softpoweroff the keys are locked * When the PowerKeyLongAction=softpoweroff the keys are NOT locked If you are interested in having the keys locked and the display turned off in one single action: * modify /etc/mce/mce.ini (be careful, and make a backup copy just in case): change PowerKeyShortAction to: PowerKeyShortAction=softpoweroff and change PowerKeyLongAction to: PowerKeyLongAction=menu * now if you press the power button (I) 1) Short press -> turn off screen, and lock keys, and disable screen sensitivity To wake it up -> press (I) for at least 1.5 seconds (this is the default timeout for longPress) 2) Long press (at least 1.5 seconds) -> brings menu up --daniel -- Daniel M. German http://turingmachine.org/ http://silvernegative.com/ dmg (at) uvic (dot) ca replace (at) with @ and (dot) with . ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: N810 is here
Jonathan> it's in my pocket! a few videos here - atmasphere.net/wp and maemoapps.com as well as some poorly shot pics I raced to post on Jonathan> flickr - user atmasphere Any idea when/how I can get one (I am in Canada)? --daniel Jonathan> On 10/17/07, Alan Williamson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-gets-official/ -- Alan Williamson "a wiki -and- a blog" @ http://www.Blog-City.com/ b: http://alan.blog-city.com/ ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users Jonathan> -- Jonathan> Jonathan Greene Jonathan> +1.914.750.8740 Jonathan> AIM / iChat - atmasphere Jonathan> gtalk / jabber - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jonathan> Skype / Gizmo - JonathanGreene Jonathan> blogs - http://www.atmasphere.net/wp / http://www.maemoapps.com Jonathan> ___ Jonathan> maemo-users mailing list Jonathan> maemo-users@maemo.org Jonathan> https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- -- Daniel M. German http://turingmachine.org/ http://silvernegative.com/ dmg (at) uvic (dot) ca replace (at) with @ and (dot) with . ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: 3 months of use: some comments about the N800
Eero> Hi, Eero> ext Daniel M German wrote: >> ** Make the screen of a harder material (perhaps glass like the >> iphone). I have lightscratches on it already. Eero> There's plastic film on top of the screen. If you haven't removed this, Eero> the scratches are in this film, not the actual screen surface. I can't really see any film on it. The scratches are very thin, but noticeable at an angle. Eero> (there's small piece of folio on the lower left corner which makes Eero> removing the film easier. I just removed the folio piece from the Eero> film and left it to protect the screen.) Oh, that one. I removed the film when new. Eero> PDFs can use a lot of memory. D-BUS makes sure that there's only one Eero> service (application) launched/running at the time, but if you start Eero> applications directly without D-BUS, you can have multiple ones running. Eero> Just try running following twice in Xterm: Eero> run-standalone.sh /usr/bin/maemo-summoner /usr/bin/osso_pdfviewer.launch & thanks for this warning. I have tried and it works. I had two documents I had to jump back and forth and it was painful without two different windows. >> *** Support for different font sizes. Eero> Where? FileManager. I have already filed a bug report using Bugzilla (and many other ones). Thanks again, Eero> - Eero -- -- Daniel M. German http://turingmachine.org/ http://silvernegative.com/ dmg (at) uvic (dot) ca replace (at) with @ and (dot) with . ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
"hidden features" Re: 3 months...
Thanks Josh, I wished I had known this last week when I had to cut and paste a computer generated password ;) What I did was to save the file, then load it inside emacs, then cut-and-paste. What a pain! there are a number of "hidden" features of the N800. For example, it took me some time to discover that the "ok" button (the one in the middle of the arrow keys) switched to the thumb keyboard. Is there a place where all this info is documented? --dmg Josh Smith twisted the bytes to say: Josh> A quick reply - the browser does have cut and paste. Just double tap Josh> the screen where you want to highlight, then drag. You can then hold Josh> the stylus on the highlight part, which brings up a menu with copy as Josh> an option, or you can invoke the keyboard, and choose copy in the menu Josh> from the little arrow on the bottom left side. Josh> Hope this was helpful. Josh> Cheers, Josh> josh Josh> On 10/11/07, Daniel M German <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> I am not sure this is the best place to post this information. But >> hopefully somebody at Nokia will be listening. >> >> >> After almost 3 months of use I have to say the N800 is the best PDA I >> have ever owned. I just came back from a 10 days trip where it became >> my main computer, and I am very happy with it. >> >> These are some comments that perhaps could be addressed to make the >> next generation of the N800 an even better product. >> >> >> ** Mute button. When the alarms kick in it takes several seconds to >> start be able to silence it (or when you remove the >> headphones). Sometimes that is embarrassing, like when you are in >> a meeting. >> >> ** Separate the <+> <-> buttons a little >> >> ** Make the screen of a harder material (perhaps glass like the iphone). I >> have light >> scratches on it already. >> >> >> ** Thumb keyboard. I am not exactly how to reproduce it, but sometimes it >> inserts repeated >> copies of sections of the text. >> >> ** PDF reader. Allow me to open more than one document at the same time. >> >> >> ** Web browser: it needs cut-and-paste >> >> ** Nokia's Image browser "Images". It is a pain to zoom-in and scroll >> the image. I was trying to view a subway map with it and it was a >> total pain. When one changes to fullscreen the image gets resized >> automatically. In my opinion the image browser should behave more >> like the web browser, allowing to pan around the image with the >> stylus. >> >> ** Soft-power off mode. I have enabled it with a long press of the >> on-button. >> Unfortunately it does not disable the keys. It would be nice if it >> did, except for a long-press of the on-botton again. >> >> ** File manager. >> >> *** When I move files from one directory to another I'd like the file >> manager >> to stay in the source directory, not the destination one. Perhaps an option >> will >> do. >> >> *** Support for different font sizes. >> >> The following are comments regarding third party applications: >> >> ** Mapper: One thing missing is the ability to goto to a designated >> POI. The only current option is to go to the nearest. >> >> ** GPE-calendar. >> >> *** It messes appointments when one changes timezone. In my opinion >> appointments >> should stay at the same time, even if the time zone changes. >> >> *** It needs to update the end-time to be at the very least after the >> start-time. >> It is cumbersome to have to change the date twice: once for the >> start time, and once for the end time. >> >> *** It badly needs a search function. >> >> >> >> -- >> -- >> Daniel M. German >> http://turingmachine.org/ >> http://silvernegative.com/ >> dmg (at) uvic (dot) ca >> replace (at) with @ and (dot) with . >> ___ >> maemo-users mailing list >> maemo-users@maemo.org >> https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users >> -- -- Daniel M. German http://turingmachine.org/ http://silvernegative.com/ dmg (at) uvic (dot) ca replace (at) with @ and (dot) with . ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
3 months of use: some comments about the N800
I am not sure this is the best place to post this information. But hopefully somebody at Nokia will be listening. After almost 3 months of use I have to say the N800 is the best PDA I have ever owned. I just came back from a 10 days trip where it became my main computer, and I am very happy with it. These are some comments that perhaps could be addressed to make the next generation of the N800 an even better product. ** Mute button. When the alarms kick in it takes several seconds to start be able to silence it (or when you remove the headphones). Sometimes that is embarrassing, like when you are in a meeting. ** Separate the <+> <-> buttons a little ** Make the screen of a harder material (perhaps glass like the iphone). I have light scratches on it already. ** Thumb keyboard. I am not exactly how to reproduce it, but sometimes it inserts repeated copies of sections of the text. ** PDF reader. Allow me to open more than one document at the same time. ** Web browser: it needs cut-and-paste ** Nokia's Image browser "Images". It is a pain to zoom-in and scroll the image. I was trying to view a subway map with it and it was a total pain. When one changes to fullscreen the image gets resized automatically. In my opinion the image browser should behave more like the web browser, allowing to pan around the image with the stylus. ** Soft-power off mode. I have enabled it with a long press of the on-button. Unfortunately it does not disable the keys. It would be nice if it did, except for a long-press of the on-botton again. ** File manager. *** When I move files from one directory to another I'd like the file manager to stay in the source directory, not the destination one. Perhaps an option will do. *** Support for different font sizes. The following are comments regarding third party applications: ** Mapper: One thing missing is the ability to goto to a designated POI. The only current option is to go to the nearest. ** GPE-calendar. *** It messes appointments when one changes timezone. In my opinion appointments should stay at the same time, even if the time zone changes. *** It needs to update the end-time to be at the very least after the start-time. It is cumbersome to have to change the date twice: once for the start time, and once for the end time. *** It badly needs a search function. -- -- Daniel M. German http://turingmachine.org/ http://silvernegative.com/ dmg (at) uvic (dot) ca replace (at) with @ and (dot) with . ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
