Re: Steve's Ranty Review #1: N800 ogg support and the repository question
On Fri, Oct 19, 2007 at 04:30:50PM +, Steve Greenland wrote:
Probably the easiest workable solution is something like the Debian
unstable/testing process, whereby packages are uploaded to unstable, and
migrate to testing after meeting certain criteria (no new serious bugs,
installs with only other testing packages, etc.)
I'd like to point one [obvious] thing: Debian uses single bug tracking
system for all its packages, hence checking whether a package is having
serious problems is very easy. For packages in extras{,-testing}
repository this might not be the case.
Cheers
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Re: App downloads stats (was Re: chinook)
On Tue, Oct 23, 2007 at 08:47:49AM +0300, Quim Gil wrote: On Mon, 2007-10-22 at 15:40 +0400, ext Mikhail Sobolev wrote: The main FBReader author would happily make FBReader available from the extras repository. The main reason why it's not there yet is the lack of way to see how many installations are happening from it. :) The download numbers somehow help to prioritize checking/testing for various platforms. Good point. Please follow Downloads statistics in extras repository http://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2155 Great. Thanks. btw, there have been conversations about implementing in the future a popularity-contest like feature. Users would accept (or not) to share information about the software they have installed and this would help us identifying the areas where there is more interest/activity, and what are the most popular third part applications. This feature is common in Debian, Ubuntu and other GNU/Linux distributions. Yeah... That sounds interesting. -- Misha signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: chinook
On Thu, Oct 18, 2007 at 11:11:32AM -0400, Jonathan Greene wrote: does anyone have anything built to test? love to try some apps on the N810 Guess what? :) You can try FBReader... :)) We'll make it official soonish, at the moment you can find a version in deb http://only.mawhrin.net/~mss/fb ./ Any feedback is welcome :) Kind Regards -- Misha signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Application Launcher
Hi Don On Mon, Sep 10, 2007 at 08:35:14PM -0400, D. L. Fuller wrote: I'd suggest listing Simple-Launcher as OS2006 compatible after you get positive feedback from a significant number of users. Add my vote. It is a valuable tool. Done :) It wasn't exactly clear when first installing Simple-Launcher that only a small box would appear in Edit Layout mode for the applet to then drag to its preferred location. My small box was initially mostly hidden beneath the internet search applet. I thought I solved this, but this does not seem to be the case. :( I'll check it out... -- Misha signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Application Launcher
Hi Bob On Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 07:35:24AM -0400, Bob Herrmann wrote: How does Application Launcher get its list of executable choices (and I guess corresponding icons?) Is there a registry somewhere. I would like to add some shell scripts that I use into the launcher. They do things like configure networking for my office, and networking for home, rsync files, etc... It looks for .desktop files in /usr/share/applications/hildon, so the scripts are not possible yet. They are in my mid term plans though. -- Misha signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Application Launcher
On Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 05:36:24PM +0200, Antonio Orlando wrote: You could put Kerez in the Application Launcher, and your scripts in Kerez ;) Thanks for mentioning Kerez, I never heard about it :) PS: Application Launcher works fine in OS2006 for me too. [WHISH] I'd like to define a rectangular area where icons would autoarrange. Do you mean multi-row area? :) -- Misha signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: downloads.maemo.org seriously (was Re: Application launcher)
On Fri, Sep 07, 2007 at 07:44:48AM +0300, Quim Gil wrote: On Thu, 2007-09-06 at 22:19 +0400, ext Mikhail Sobolev wrote: Shameful^H^H^Hless plug: https://garage.maemo.org/projects/simple-launcher/ Making a normal user search I could find only http://downloads.maemo.org/product/idea - but maybe it's just me. :) Users would have an easier life if developers could spend some time creating a nice and useful page at http://downloads.maemo.org , with screenshot, link to project page, etc. People downloading deb packages directly from Garage pages has been a general use case until now, but the shift has moved to the application catalog and this s just the beginning. fyi Tableteer and other Nokia sites will increasingly promote software available in maemo.org. A useful page in the application catalog with a working install file will be a requirement. Votes, comments and ranks (to come soon) will play also a role when recommending applications A or B. Thank you for your kind suggestion. Hopefully now it's gonna be a bit easier to fin it at downlaods.maemo.org. I still need to work on a .install file though. Of course novelty, quality and coolness of the software itself is and will be the primary factor. From a Nokia point of view it doesn't make much sense to redirect regular users to places and actions they won't understand (i.e. https://garage.maemo.org/frs/?group_id=239release_id=643 ) I probably need to check better Nokia's point of view... :) -- Misha signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Application launcher
On Thu, Sep 06, 2007 at 02:17:25PM -0400, bob wrote: I thought I saw something about an application launcher go by on the planet site, but now I can't seem to find any reference to it (other than a reference or two to an unfinished 'quick launcher' by DerekColman [1]) Anybody know about a 'quick launcher' (aka something to place icons on the home screen that are links to external or local resources) ? Shameful^H^H^Hless plug: https://garage.maemo.org/projects/simple-launcher/ :) -- Misha signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Need an SSH client for the Nokia 800
On Sun, Aug 26, 2007 at 09:24:14PM +0300, Marius Gedminas wrote:
I don't know if it makes sense for openssh-server to depend on the
client.
If I remember correctly, openssh-client has ssh-keygen application,
which is required for openssh-server to be properly initialized in
{pre,post}inst scripts.
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Re: Update software
On Wed, May 30, 2007 at 12:58:04PM -0400, James Knott wrote: I see there's a software update available for the N800. Before I install it, I'd like to know if the update will delete my apps or data and if the backup will protect those items. Updating software means that all your applications and data will be deleted. You must perform backup before update, however you should remember that: * applications won't be saved, so you'll need to install them again * only some data will be saved as not all applications indicate what should be stored during backup -- Misha signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Accuracy of the power meter?
On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 06:56:44PM -0400, Theodore Ts'o wrote: I've been noticing that I don't get anywhere near the promised 10 days idle battery life on my N800. With bluetooth and the wireless turned off (offline mode), and with the display off and keys/touchscreen locked, I'm getting at best 8-10 hours of idle time before the battery is completely drained. One possibility is if you use RD mode or some other [non-default] options changed with flasher application. In this case power management would not be able to deliver the promised time. -- Misha signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Quick launcher and non-DBus commands
Hi David On Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 06:15:47AM -0500, David Hagood wrote: Well, I've worked out how to launch a given program in a shell and to create a .desktop file to allow that command to be added to the menus. The key is to provide the command in the Exec= entry, and to NOT provide a X-Osso-Service= line. If you provide the service line, then the Exec will be ignored. However, I cannot add such items to the quick launcher desktop applet - it seems to me that the quick launcher requires the X-Osso-Service line. Is this right? Yes, you are correct. I'll release version 0.9.3 (I need to come home to upload it to the repository :), but it's also possible to just make it available through garage file download section. I'd appreciate your feedback on that. -- Misha signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
[ANN] simple-launcher v0.9.3 is released
Hi Yesterday I released v0.9.3 of simple-launcher. New stuff: * config file can now be backed up * default icon is shown for non-existing/missing icons * non d-bus apps can be started Fixes: * minimal size for the applet is just 1 button :) Download it at https://garage.maemo.org/frs/?group_id=131 Report problems here or at https://garage.maemo.org/tracker/?group_id=131 -- Misha signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [ANN] Simple Launcher -- Home applet to launch your apps
On Fri, Mar 23, 2007 at 07:22:18PM -0400, Larry Battraw wrote: http://simple-launcher.garage.maemo.org VERY nice! Thank you :) My only feature request is for a default icon for programs like minimo that don't provide one. Thanks for the suggestion. I'll release a new version with this feature today/tomorrow. -- Misha signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [ANN] Simple Launcher -- Home applet to launch your apps
Hi Paule On Sat, Mar 24, 2007 at 11:32:54AM +0100, Paule Ecimovic wrote: Could you enable launching command-line apps from the desktop as well, i.e., all those apps that currently require launching from an xterm? That's an intersting idea. How would you suggest it's implemented: * application is started from within xterm (hence starting xterm for the user) * application is just started and all its output is plainly ignored * some other way Thanks -- Misha signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
[ANN] Simple Launcher -- Home applet to launch your apps
Hi Yesterday I made the first public release of simple-launcher. It's a home applet that shows icons of often used applications: you click and the application starts :) [Some] known limitations (that's why it's 0.9 :)): * there's no infobanner when the application is started * if the application is already started, it's not brought up (for the user it looks like nothing happened) The package is available at http://simple-launcher.garage.maemo.org When I better understand how to use extras repository, the package will be downloadable from 'bora' part. Disclaimer: the applet was only test on Nokia N800. The downloadable package will most likely work on Nokia N800 only. (I'll try to create a separate package for IT OS 2006 later though.) Any feedback is welcome :) -- Misha signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [ANN] Simple Launcher -- Home applet to launch your apps
Hi Jonathan I believe the new version (0.9.1) fixes this. Could you please try it and let me know if it anyhow helped :) Kind Regards -- Misha On Fri, Mar 23, 2007 at 10:28:58AM -0400, Jonathan Greene wrote: yeah I was there... my problem is that the device thinks something else is in the way when your app is onscreen, but there's nothing there. I've tried resizing it as a small rectangle on the right side as well as at the bottom... no luck yet. Will have to try again after I update my device with today's release. On 3/23/07, Mikhail Sobolev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Jonathan (I'll put the advices from this thread to the home page when the issue is resolved :)) On Fri, Mar 23, 2007 at 08:57:06AM -0400, Jonathan Greene wrote: I tired installing and setting this up, but I am unable to find a location on my home screen that is not overlapped... though nothing is actually overlapping (or hiding below). Running N800... [ If you feel it's too detailed, please bear with me: I just want to make sure that everything is OK ] After you installed the package, you should go to the menu of Home Application and click 'Select applets...'. You will see a dialog where you should be able to see 'Simple Launcher'. Mark the checkbox next to it and press 'OK' buton. Home application should go to the layout editing mode and the simple launcher is represented by a very small icon (I tried to specify in several places the minimum size, but it works somewhat strangely, I need to figure out how to fix it), try to click and hold on the right bottom corner to resize it. At this point, the minimum size will work and you will see a white rectangle. Now you should be able to move it around. Have you got to this point? Kind Regards -- Misha -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGA+FGMYLUe7XufiwRAvXzAKCJHCnUom3MkeAP/fB6avSnbut46QCfT9X0 6D2LCdgKeebvtl75I+Mebo0= =D0+R -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- Jonathan Greene m 917.560.3000 AIM / iChat - atmasphere gtalk / jabber - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gizmo - JonathanGreene blogs - http://www.atmasphere.net/wp / http://www.maemoapps.com ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: man command?
On Sun, Mar 04, 2007 at 12:54:11PM +0100, Andrea Trentini wrote: I've searched on maemo.org but didn't find references to a man command for N800... can you help? Could you please describe a bit better what you want? An installable man application so you could read man pages on the device? -- Misha signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Canola: other apps won't start
Hi On Tue, Dec 05, 2006 at 08:59:34PM +0100, Zrz wrote: I installed Canola (great app btw) and noticed that other apps won't start anymore, even when there is enough swap space available. For example: I have Opera and the mail client runing and want to launch a third app. I see a high cpu load which fades away after some seconds but the app will not start. I have not tried Canola yet :) However from what I saw on the web, it could be the applet that takes a lot of memory. Try removing it from home and see if it helps. Hope this helps -- Misha signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] fbreader broken with 0.7.4j-2?
Hi Simon [ A more appropriate forum for FBReader questions is http://groups.google.com/group/fbreader ] On Wed, Oct 04, 2006 at 02:46:17PM +0200, Simon Oosthoek wrote: recently I upgraded maemo-fbreader (I'm not sure if I picked up version 0.7.4j-1 as well), but now it doesn't start anymore, I tried removing and re-installing, but it doesn't help. Any ideas how I can fix it, or at least debug the problem? As for debugging, the only thing I could recommend is to install xterm, ro run it and to try $ run-standalone.sh FBReader and see if anything interesting pops up. I'm running OS2006 btw Could you please give the exact version of your OS? (Control Panel/Device) -- Misha signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] link local and adhoc networks...
Hi Larry On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 08:51:04PM -0700, Larry Melman wrote: Some networks the 770 will connect with a 'link local' message but return an error when the browser attempts to access a web site. Conversely, my laptop computer negotiates these networks fine. What is my laptop able to do that the 770 is not? Could you please tell what laptop you have? :) And could you please describe a bit better what web site you are trying to access? Is it on the same network? Is it an Internet website? -- Misha signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] a bricked 770 ?
Hi Mathieue On Sat, Jun 10, 2006 at 04:35:29PM +0200, Mathieu Lacage wrote: I don't know I managed to screw up my last firmware upgrade (maybe the usb cable was not very well connected or whatnot) but I got this: [EMAIL PROTECTED] maemo]# ./flasher --fiasco [ ... ] USB device found found at bus 002, device address 006 Unsupported board (id = 0x) [EMAIL PROTECTED] maemo]# I'd suggest using new flasher (flasher-2.0) as described at http://maemo.org/maemowiki/HOWTO_FlashLatestNokiaImageWithLinux Do not forget to make it executable. -- Misha signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Ebook reader which runs on real 770 ?
On Wed, Oct 05, 2005 at 08:38:45AM +0200, Jose Manrique Lopez de la Fuente wrote: At least FBReader[1] and Plucker[2] appear in a Google search. [1] http://only.mawhrin.net/~mss/thingies/maemo/ FBReader cannot be installed on real 770 (i.e. using Application Installer). -- Misha signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
