Re: [ANN] Simple Launcher -- Home applet to launch your apps
Hi, Misha and all, For configuration purposes, I would suggest a graphic directory browser component which would allow the user to navigate from the desktop to the executable and thus build up the path string. Then, use the path string to create a link to the app, which could be activated by a speed-button on your launcher. Alternatively, a button on your launcher could just be programmed with the xterm command sequence required to launch the app and the xterm output piped to a desktop window opened for the purpose of running the app from and on the desktop. The purpose of such an extension to your app launcher is to provide a GUI front-end for bringing all those xterm command-shell apps to the desktop. Cheers, Paule - Original Message - From: Mikhail Sobolev [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Maemo-users@maemo.org Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 1:31 PM Subject: Re: [ANN] Simple Launcher -- Home applet to launch your apps ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Q: connecting to non-broadcast wifi?
Hi, Kalle and all, Deleting other IAP's as I have already found out doesn't explicitly select the remaining IAP as default. That remains to be done by the user. How this is done remains unknown as does how Nokia engineers envisaged DHCP-based IP address assignment via WLAN IAP connections. I wonder whether there is a status flag to set for an already detected WLAN IAP which would designate it as the one to connect to by default. In the negotiation of a newly-found IAP, some revision-invariant bug in ITOS 2005/2006 and all their respective sub-versions causes the DHCP cycle to time out. The DHCP would require some inquiry on the part of ITOS to get a newly-assigned IP address and, hence, a default IAP does not imply avoiding the DHCP cycle, where a useful (external) IP address is not assigned. So, a default IAP might not solve the DHCP time-out problem, but there may be more to being a default IAP than just what I have described, and among these additional implications of the default IAP designation might be something that enables viable IP address assignment by DHCP to Nokia 770 running the ITOS 2006. Cheers, Paule - Original Message - From: Kalle Valo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Paule Ecimovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: maemo-users@maemo.org Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 9:30 AM Subject: Re: Q: connecting to non-broadcast wifi? Paule Ecimovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In ITOS 2006, how do I set a specific WLAN connection as default so that when a connection is dial without asking, that particular WLAN connection is dialed? I think you can't do that. They only way I can think of would be to keep only one WLAN IAP saved. -- Kalle Valo ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Default WLAN AP Setting and the Connecting via Local IP Address Error in the Nokia 770 ITOS 2005/2006
Hi all, Has anyone received connecting via Local-IP errors on a Nokia 770 running either version of ITOS while attempting to connect to a non-default WLAN internet access point? If so, how does one specify the default WLAN internet access point so as to avoid this error and get viable WLAN internet connections by default (given sufficient signal strength of the connection to the WLAN AP and an active internet connectivity)? This is yet another crack at a persistent problem leading to unreliable performance of the 770 in its feature application area: hassle-free broadband internet surfing at the drop of a hat. Cheers, Paule ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Booting from MMC as a de-bricking method
Hi, Zorane Great just-in-time suggestion. Do tell me more. Where are these files? Do I have to gainroot first to access them for rw? Is all this doable without flashing methods? If so, let me in on it. This sounds like a good in-road to sysadmin which leaves the integrity of the system in takt. Cheers, Paule P.S. Would it be useful to develop a GUI-based sysadmin tool that gives you fields in a tabbed-forms interface to the relevant files, much like the System folder in Win-land and that of M'c OS-X. - Original Message - From: Zoran Kolic [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: maemo-users@maemo.org Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2007 7:48 AM Subject: Re: Booting from MMC as a de-bricking method the bricking scenarios resulting from flashing a 770 to set it into RD mode, where the 770 sometimes bricks after rebooting. Wouldn't it be sometimes easier to change options simply editing files by the hand? I.e. what to change to get usb host mode, without using flasher? Zoran ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Booting from MMC as a de-bricking method
Hi, Frantisek, Thanks for your answer. Cheers, Paule - Original Message - From: Frantisek Dufka [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Paule Ecimovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: maemo-users@maemo.org Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 9:38 PM Subject: Re: [maemo-users] Booting from MMC as a de-bricking method Paule Ecimovic wrote: I am most concerned about the bricking scenarios resulting from flashing a 770 to set it into RD mode, where the 770 sometimes bricks after rebooting. Never hear of this, is this real? What you see on the screen when it boots? How many seconds exactly boot takes since poweron before it reboots again (i.e. in which step mentioned below it stops)? Are there bricking scenarios in this reboot situation which involve corruption beyond MMC reboot? I'm not sure what you mean by this (and was not answered already). Let's explain how device boots: 1. bootloader (probably at least two of them, one loads another) initializes some hardware, checks if flasher is connected and finally loads linux kernel from /dev/mtd2. Some small bootloader is stored either in masked ROM or NOR flash directly on OMAP chip, the second one is stored in (NAND) flash - /dev/mtd0 2. linux kernel starts, initializes hardware and runs linuxrc from initfs partition (/dev/mtd3) 3. initfs (uclibc based system) starts dsme and bme, loads wlan and bt firmware, checks root device name stored in flash (=config partition /dev/mtd1)mounts it and continues boot from that device (via pivot_root [1]). This is where bootmenu modification lives too, it simply allows you to select different root device then stored by flasher. 4. /sbin/init starts from the root device and normal linux system boots via rc scripts This means that if bootloader (/dev/mtd0) or kernel (/dev/mtd2) is corrupted or maybe even config partition (bootloader probably uses it too to store some data - MAC address? list of bad flash blocks? partition layout?) then the device is 'bricked' and bootmenu cannot help since it has no chance to run. Only reflash over usb (or serial) can help. But normal bricking done by most users and mentioned in previous mail means corrupting rootfs (/dev/mtd4) and this can be solved by booting from anything else (=mmc) via bootmenu. Any chance of hard-disk based ITOS for Nokia Internet Tablet's. Harddisk would not solve anything. Same like when you corrupt your bios on PC. but it would allow rebooting in various modes and under various privledge schemes without the threat of irreparable bricking. Harddisk is not any better than mmc, both are lock devices used by linux kernel. Regards, Frantisek 1. http://www.die.net/doc/linux/man/man8/pivot_root.8.html ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Booting from MMC as a de-bricking method
Thanks Frantisek and all for your responses. I am most concerned about the bricking scenarios resulting from flashing a 770 to set it into RD mode, where the 770 sometimes bricks after rebooting. Are there bricking scenarios in this reboot situation which involve corruption beyond MMC reboot? Any chance of hard-disk based ITOS for Nokia Internet Tablet's. I know this would require more power and possibly a larger footprint and many architectural modifications which might defeat the (nascent niche) purpose, but it would allow rebooting in various modes and under various privledge schemes without the threat of irreparable bricking. Cheers, Paule - Original Message - From: Frantisek Dufka [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Paule Ecimovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: maemo-users@maemo.org Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 3:07 PM Subject: Re: [maemo-users] Booting from MMC as a de-bricking method Paule Ecimovic wrote: Hi, all Is it possible to boot from MMC (assuming one sets up this booting option by cloning the 770 on a suitably-large MMC and installing the alternate boot loader and all the rest) to recover from a bricking flash? Boot from mmc can help you only when the problem is in rootfs partition i.e. (a bit simplistic explanation) when booting the device blue progressbar on the bottom starts. I'm not sure what you mean by 'bricking flash' but any device reflash with full firmware image removes modified initfs with boot menu and then you cannot boot from mmc at all (without reflashing modified initfs back). But this is not big problem because booting from mmc allows you to stop fixing problems with your device by reflashing. Instead of reflashing you can boot clean system and either mount broken system and fix it (if you know how) or save data from it and clone your clean system to mmc and start again. Are there bricking scenarios from which it is not possible to recover via booting from MMC? Definitely yes but most things that can normally go wrong happen in rootfs. Examples: - you install bad/incompatible package - you try apt-get upgrade - you are trying to hack startup sequence - device reboots in wrong moment and some system files get lost or become corrupted (yes this really happens sometimes if you are unlucky) Frantisek ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
[maemo-users] USB Host Power injectors as retrofit USB phone chargers driven to run in reverse
Hi, all On the question of power injector implementation to enable host mode USB OTG on the Nokia 770, has anyone tried running a USB phone charger for phones that weren't designed to be charged by USB out-of-the-box (OTB .|,) and plugging in a 9V battery in a casing with a stereo mini-plug port or smaller and the USB end into a USB hub then the hub via a USB A/MtoUSB-mini converter into the Nokia 770 mini USB port. The hub should give a number of free USB A/F ports for plugging in devices minus whatever splicing arrangement one prefers for connecting the charger-turn-injector into the hub. I suspect one would have to chose a hub that allows (against pre-USB-OTG specs) to feed additional power to the host to support host mode functionality. Power adapters in pre-OTG specs are supposed only to feed power to higher-demand devices, not to their host. Also, it would be nice not to be tied to an external wall plug, hence the battery in some web-posted designs makes sense. Another thing to charge, but what's new. Edison won out in devices, Tesla in efficient long-distance power distribution. Home is where you charge your batteries all the OTG devices of your e-life: get one, it's really fun. Cheers, Paule No virus found in this outgoing message Checked by PC Tools AntiVirus (3.1.0.10 - 9.059.005). http://www.pctools.com/anti-virus/ ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] gcc compiler suite, linker, and make for ARM on ITOS2006
Hi, Larry Thanks for this link to the Maemo 2.1 SDK. This is full of useful programming examples, although I am looking for gcc to run from the Nokia 770 itself from within an osso-xterm in order to be able to compile, link, and run programs right from and on the device, just like on a desktop linux box. I would like to skip the external linux box though. Cheers, Paule - Original Message - From: Larry Battraw [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Paule Ecimovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: maemo-users@maemo.org Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 11:36 PM Subject: Re: [maemo-users] gcc compiler suite, linker, and make for ARM on ITOS2006 On 1/23/07, Paule Ecimovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, all Is there a port of the current gcc compiler suite, linker, and the make utility for ARM running ITOS 2006, i.e., Nokia 770? I would like to compile programs for the Nokia 770 directly from source distributions and link them with platform-specific libraries to produce stand-alone executables and launch them from an x-term. Indeed. Please check out maemo.org and download the Maemo 2.1 SDK which includes all of the above and a great deal more. Here's a good starting point: http://maemo.org/platform/docs/tutorials/Maemo_tutorial.html Larry No virus found in this incoming message Checked by PC Tools AntiVirus (3.1.0.10 - 9.058.011). http://www.pctools.com/anti-virus/ No virus found in this outgoing message Checked by PC Tools AntiVirus (3.1.0.10 - 9.058.011). http://www.pctools.com/anti-virus/ ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Connect to WLAN from command line
Does anyone know of various causes of the Connected to ssid via local IP link message in attempting to connect to the internet via WIFI on Nokia 770 with the latest ITOS 2006 although this also happened with ITOS 2005 in all subversions? - Original Message - From: Kalle Valo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ext Michael Stepanov [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: maemo-users@maemo.org Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 8:42 AM Subject: Re: [maemo-users] Connect to WLAN from command line ext Michael Stepanov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ifconfig wlan0 up iwconfig wlan0 enc MY_KEY mode managed essid MY_ESSID channel 6 But I didn't see that IP address was assigned to wlan0 interface. You didn't run the DHCP client: udhcpc -i wlan0 -- Kalle Valo ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users No virus found in this incoming message Checked by PC Tools AntiVirus (3.1.0.10 - 9.057.001). http://www.pctools.com/anti-virus/ No virus found in this outgoing message Checked by PC Tools AntiVirus (3.1.0.10 - 9.057.001). http://www.pctools.com/anti-virus/ ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Connect to WLAN from command line
Hi, Marius and all Is there a way to figure out why the 770 is timing out on the DHCP request, when, for example, my Window XP laptop with WIFI isnt. Moreover, is there a known remedy to this 770 timing-out behaviour apart from terminating the connection and re-connecting? Is there a power-up latency for the wifi subsystem of about 20 minutes after which it (mysteriously) starts connecting on time? Whats up with this recurring and nagging problem? Cheers, Paule - Original Message - From: Marius Gedminas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: maemo-users@maemo.org Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 5:08 Pc Subject: Re: [maemo-users] Connect to WLAN from command line ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users No virus found in this outgoing message Checked by PC Tools AntiVirus (3.1.0.10 - 9.057.001). http://www.pctools.com/anti-virus/ ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: RE: [maemo-users] 770 on the way
Hi, all This entire thread seems to be referring to the Nokia N770 as a phone, which it is certainly not unless one considers GoogleTalk a phone feature of the like of GSM and UMTS phones. The N770 is a pocket computer first and foremost. It does come from a company that, among other things, is well known for phones. B.R. - Original Message - From: Mathias Uebelacker To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: maemo-users@maemo.org Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 7:24 PM Subject: Aw: RE: [maemo-users] 770 on the way Hello there are several stores in germany which sell the device with contracts, expes. with upgrades that meens that the customers have a mobile and gget the device cheaper. - Ursprüngliche Mitteilung - Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] An: maemo-users@maemo.org Gesendet: Mo., 4. Dez. 2006 12:24:05 CET Betreff: RE: [maemo-users] 770 on the way That was sort of my *point* :-) I was attempting (badly!) to make the point that the usual product pattern for Nokia/SE/whoever - where they release some new, interesting device and then release incremental/facelift upgrades that'll support themselves through the artificially buoyed up market of telco contracts - may not be very well suited to the full-price, no-contract-available 770 upgrade. Are you from US? Because most people around me (and I guess generally in Europe) buy their phones themselves and not from mobile operator. Operators offer phones too, yes, but they are generally overpriced, outdated and the choice is limited. Maybe companies use this but for average person it does not make sense. Phones and cellular operators are different things. Or do you buy TV from your cable/TV operator? Also majority of people here (70%) use prepaid cards without contract and even have more such cards from different operators and swap them in one phone. Maybe mobile market is more competitive in Europe (or in my country)? I remember phones bought from operators were blocked in firmware to prevent using with other cellular networks but this is history too (maybe noone bought such phones?). So to sum it up I don't think such artifical market exist here or is too important and manufacturers can produce crappy phones because of this. Frantisek As far as I know, here, in France, most of the phones are sold by operators with contracts. Well, I guess the N770, since it can't be sold with contracts, doesn't fit their needs. Anyway It would be cool if it could be sold in stores instead of nokia's internet shop only. If people could try it before buying it, there'd be many more sales. Everybody who put a hand on mine felt in love with it. Joel Hi there, The internet shop is not the only point of sale. Nokia 770 does sell in several retail chains, for example El Corte Ingles used to have them, CompUSA seems to have them too and I even saw them on sale at airport in Venice;-) However they are not on offer in the usual mobile operator stores, with the notable exception of the Nokia Flagship Stores (AFAIK). Br, --jakub Attachment: -- ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
[maemo-users] To the Maemo-Users List Manager: Setting the default reply to: for this list
How about setting the default reply-to for the maemo-users list to maemo-users rather than to each individual list contributer. This way, replies would be posted back to the list by default rather than being sent to the one person to whose point/question/comment one is immediately replying. B.R., ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
[maemo-users] N770 Wifi subsystem, drivers and applets
Hi all, After finally flashing my N770 with the latest revision of ITOS 2006, I was able to connect to my Linksys WIFI internet router with the same touch-and-go reliability I had experienced with ITOS 2005, which is much better than the no connectivity at all I experienced with the first ITOS 2006 that became available. That said, could someone point me to documents describing the WIFI hardware subsystem of the N770 and the driver support for it built into the current revision of ITOS 2006, because it seems that the WIFI circuits need quite some time after power up and initial program load to start accepting DCHP IP addresses from every open (not password protected) WIFI internet router with which I have used my N770. I wonder what is causing this long delay in accepting dynamically-assigned IP addresses without responding with local loop-back IP addresses instead. In other words, would this happen if I were using a USB WIFI dongle with suitable drivers written for and installed in ITOS 2006 as kernel modules? Another related question is why isn't one wifi connection always on and spawned when ITOS 2006 loads in such a way that all programs requiring internet access can detect this open connection and use it? T.I.A. and B.R., Paule ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
[maemo-users] DOSEMU for ITOS2006
Hi, all Does anyone know of a port of DOSEMU to Internet Tablet OS 2006? It would be useful for running Visual Basic 1.0 for DOS or Quick BASIC 4.5 for DOS on the N770. B.R. Paule ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
[maemo-users] Avoiding loopback local IP address mode in WIFI connections using Internet Tablet OS 2006
Hi all, Ever since I switched to Internet Tablet OS (ITOS) 2006, I keep on getting WIFI connections set to LOOPBACK, i.e., without dynamically-assigned IP addresses from the WIFI Internet Routers both at home and public wifi hotspots followed by a message of the form Connecting to SSID using local IP address with SSID being a given WIFI connection ID, followed in turn by a red question mark covering the WIFI connection icon. Does anyone know how to overcome this problem and get a usable WIFI connection with a dynamically-assigned IP address in ITOS 2006? Cheers, Paule ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
[maemo-users] Solving the connecting to wifi via local-ip address error problem
Hi, all When I connect to the internet on my N770internet tablet running internet tablet os 2006, I get a message "Connecting to linksys with local IP Address" followed by a red questionmark over the connection icon. Such a connection is unusable with any internet service (e-mail, radio, web, rss, etc). I get the same behaviour at publicopen WIFI hotspots.In ITOS 2005, I could connect to my linksys internet router typically after one or two tries. Is there a kernel patch to ITOS 2006 which addresses this problem or some other remedy? Cheers, Paule ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
