Re: [maemo-users] Premium eBooks?

2007-01-26 Thread Kahlil Johnson

I would curse the day it gets implemented. I'll rather see that effort
being pushed to better open standard applications like a good OGG
Vorbis / Theora playback. Maybe even LaTex and OpenDocuments.

On 1/26/07, Jonathan Greene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

What are the chances we'll be able to get the ability to read DRM'd
books from either Mobipocket or eReader?  I really miss this ability
and while I know there is no actual DRM on the device -- and believe
me I don't really want it either -- I would like to read some more
current books or journals on my Nokia tablet.

I've got accounts with both Mobipocket and eReader from my Palm
days... We can get music from iTunes to MP3... Perhaps there's a
conversion technique we might be able to share?

Thanks,
JG


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Re: [maemo-users] Premium eBooks?

2007-01-26 Thread Adilson Oliveira
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Jonathan Greene escreveu:
 What are the chances we'll be able to get the ability to read DRM'd
 books from either Mobipocket or eReader?  I really miss this ability
 and while I know there is no actual DRM on the device -- and believe
 me I don't really want it either -- I would like to read some more
 current books or journals on my Nokia tablet.
 
 I've got accounts with both Mobipocket and eReader from my Palm
 days... We can get music from iTunes to MP3... Perhaps there's a
 conversion technique we might be able to share?

I'm not being very active on the maemo efforts (I'm working on a remote
access system but will take some time to be able to release it) but if
my opinion count to anything, I hope we *never* have this kind of crap
anywhere near.
I understand your need Jonathan but I think DRM stuff should rot in hell
or, at least, remains only attached to proprietary OSs, which is close
enough ;)

[]s

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Re: [maemo-users] Premium eBooks?

2007-01-26 Thread Jonathan Greene

Clearly I've touched a nerve here - I hate DRM as well guys...

I just want to be able to use my Tablet to read more than web, email
and RSS.  Classic public domain works of literature and the Hacker
Crackdown are not doing it for me.

On 1/26/07, Adilson Oliveira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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Jonathan Greene escreveu:
 What are the chances we'll be able to get the ability to read DRM'd
 books from either Mobipocket or eReader?  I really miss this ability
 and while I know there is no actual DRM on the device -- and believe
 me I don't really want it either -- I would like to read some more
 current books or journals on my Nokia tablet.

 I've got accounts with both Mobipocket and eReader from my Palm
 days... We can get music from iTunes to MP3... Perhaps there's a
 conversion technique we might be able to share?

I'm not being very active on the maemo efforts (I'm working on a remote
access system but will take some time to be able to release it) but if
my opinion count to anything, I hope we *never* have this kind of crap
anywhere near.
I understand your need Jonathan but I think DRM stuff should rot in hell
or, at least, remains only attached to proprietary OSs, which is close
enough ;)

[]s

Adilson.
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Re: [maemo-users] Premium eBooks?

2007-01-26 Thread Adilson Oliveira
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Jonathan Greene escreveu:
 Clearly I've touched a nerve here - I hate DRM as well guys...
 
 I just want to be able to use my Tablet to read more than web, email
 and RSS.  Classic public domain works of literature and the Hacker
 Crackdown are not doing it for me.

As I said, I perfectly understand your point but I think we should stay
clear of some things and DRM is one of those things.

[]s from Brazil.

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Re: [maemo-users] Premium eBooks?

2007-01-26 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Fri, Jan 26, 2007 at 11:07:52AM -0500, Jonathan Greene wrote:
 Clearly I've touched a nerve here - I hate DRM as well guys...
 
 I just want to be able to use my Tablet to read more than web, email
 and RSS.  Classic public domain works of literature and the Hacker
 Crackdown are not doing it for me.

http://webscription.net sells non-DRMed books in free formats.  There's
also Baen Free Library where you can get free non-DRMed books (many of
those are first books in a series, so if you get hooked up, you'll buy
the rest).

When you buy DRM, you get what you deserve.

Marius Gedminas
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Re: [maemo-users] Premium eBooks?

2007-01-26 Thread Michael P. Lococo
 Clearly I've touched a nerve here - I hate DRM as well guys...

I think you've also gotten a lack of useful responses because you're
asking in the wrong forum.  MobiPocket and eReader need to release their
software for the 770, there's nothing that Nokia can do to facilitate
that.

Thanks,
Mike

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Re: [maemo-users] Premium eBooks?

2007-01-26 Thread Jonathan Greene

Fair enough - was just wondering what others were doing.  Seems
there's an app that you can run on Windows which will let you actually
strip the DRM from .pdb files, and given that you have to enter your
username and credit card in the command to strip, it seems like it's
on the good side of the fair use argument... As usual with this stuff
users just want to use the content how they want -- suppose that's why
we are all in violent agreement about not using DRM to begin with.

I don't have much hope that eReader or Mobipocket will come through
for us until we can show there's a substantial market - or offer
services to port the client.

Assume people have used ManyBooks.net for FBReader?  What's the best
format for our friend the tablet -- best to read from I as I know
there are quite a few that actually work.

Thanks,
JG



On 1/26/07, Michael P. Lococo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Clearly I've touched a nerve here - I hate DRM as well guys...

I think you've also gotten a lack of useful responses because you're
asking in the wrong forum.  MobiPocket and eReader need to release their
software for the 770, there's nothing that Nokia can do to facilitate
that.

Thanks,
Mike

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Re: [maemo-users] Premium eBooks?

2007-01-26 Thread Mike Lococo

Jonathan,


Fair enough - was just wondering what others were doing.


I think the consensus is that we're getting content from any one of the 
many sources that do not encumber it with copy protection.  Obviously 
this does limit choice of content, but the alternative is having limited 
choice of reading platforms (or finding unsupported ways of stripping 
the DRM, as you noted in your last message).


My favorite content sources are:
http://gutenberg.org/
http://podiobooks.com/ (audio books instead of text, contemporary work)
http://librivox.org/ (audio books, classic out of copyright work)
http://archive.org/ (all kinds of stuff, including classic movies)

I would also reinforce the importance of asking for 770 ports from your 
favorite eBook stores.  I think the 770 is the best reading device on 
the market, and I find it odd that it hasn't gotten more support from 
the commercial eBook folks.


Thanks,
Mike
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