Re: Idea: Route Finder Service

2007-10-19 Thread Lars Persson Fink 
Hi,

The excellent maemo mapper application can use both Google and 
OpenStreetMap as well as Microsoft Virtual Earth, possibly others. It 
also has a possibility to ask a web-service for a route between two 
locations. I see meamo mapper as a potential source of routes for the 
Route Finder Service.

Regards,
Lars

Jonathan Greene skrev:
> Please don't hate for suggesting non-open source ideas ... ;)
>
> If we had a native google maps application it would take of quite a 
> few of these needs... The new native app on Symbian is really 
> excellent and integrates really nicely in the N95.  I wonder if there 
> are any lurkers here from Google...
>
> On 10/19/07, *Henri Bergius* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > wrote:
>
> On 10/19/07, Lars Persson Fink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > wrote:
> > My thought was that it would be possible to supply the service
> with a
> > source and a destination address and have respond with a route and
> > information about the route, for instance the estimated time.
> The Route
> > Finder Service could then ask Google (or some other web-service)
> OR the
> > GPS to calculate the route.
>
> An interesting optional backend would be using the OpenStreetMap data
> for route calculation. This would allow downloading the whole OSM data
> file (currently 900MB) to the device and making routes (and possibly
> generating maemo mapper map tiles!) without need for internet
> connection.
>
> OSM data files:
> http://planet.openstreetmap.org/
>
> Some points about OSM-based route calculation:
> 
> http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/notes_from_the_state_of_the_map_conference.html#b3a9ee267eb9b35a1f048755da38
>
> > /Lars
>
> /Henri
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Re: Idea: Route Finder Service

2007-10-19 Thread Jonathan Greene 
Please don't hate for suggesting non-open source ideas ... ;)

If we had a native google maps application it would take of quite a few of
these needs... The new native app on Symbian is really excellent and
integrates really nicely in the N95.  I wonder if there are any lurkers here
from Google...

On 10/19/07, Henri Bergius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On 10/19/07, Lars Persson Fink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > My thought was that it would be possible to supply the service with a
> > source and a destination address and have respond with a route and
> > information about the route, for instance the estimated time. The Route
> > Finder Service could then ask Google (or some other web-service) OR the
> > GPS to calculate the route.
>
> An interesting optional backend would be using the OpenStreetMap data
> for route calculation. This would allow downloading the whole OSM data
> file (currently 900MB) to the device and making routes (and possibly
> generating maemo mapper map tiles!) without need for internet
> connection.
>
> OSM data files:
> http://planet.openstreetmap.org/
>
> Some points about OSM-based route calculation:
>
> http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/notes_from_the_state_of_the_map_conference.html#b3a9ee267eb9b35a1f048755da38
>
> > /Lars
>
> /Henri
>
> --
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> http://bergie.iki.fi/
>
> Skype: henribergius
> Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Jaiku: http://bergie.jaiku.com/
>



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Re: Idea: Route Finder Service

2007-10-19 Thread Henri Bergius 
On 10/19/07, Lars Persson Fink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My thought was that it would be possible to supply the service with a
> source and a destination address and have respond with a route and
> information about the route, for instance the estimated time. The Route
> Finder Service could then ask Google (or some other web-service) OR the
> GPS to calculate the route.

An interesting optional backend would be using the OpenStreetMap data
for route calculation. This would allow downloading the whole OSM data
file (currently 900MB) to the device and making routes (and possibly
generating maemo mapper map tiles!) without need for internet
connection.

OSM data files:
http://planet.openstreetmap.org/

Some points about OSM-based route calculation:
http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/notes_from_the_state_of_the_map_conference.html#b3a9ee267eb9b35a1f048755da38

> /Lars

/Henri

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Re: Idea: Route Finder Service

2007-10-19 Thread Lars Persson Fink 
Jonathan, glad you like my idea. 

Hopefully we can get some developer to like it too. :-) 

Yes, the Route Finder Service would be available through an API (via
dbus) to all the system, but it would not be dependent on a GPS. 

My thought was that it would be possible to supply the service with a
source and a destination address and have respond with a route and
information about the route, for instance the estimated time. The Route
Finder Service could then ask Google (or some other web-service) OR the
GPS to calculate the route. 

/Lars
 

fre 2007-10-19 klockan 02:09 -0400 skrev Jonathan Greene:
> very cool ... as I understand it the location service is available to
> the entire system and there's an API for this... (I'm not a developer
> either).  The N800 will also support this via Bluetooth GPS... with
> the new 2008 OS. 
> 
> On 10/19/07, Lars Persson Fink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I (like most others) saw the news of the N810, with built in
> GPS.
> Someone suggested that the maemo community could work for more
> location
> aware applications, that got me thinking about the idea of the
> Route 
> Finder Service.
> 
> Unfortunately I do not have the time or competence needed in
> order to
> actually implement this, so I am posting it in the hope that
> someone
> else may do it.
> 
> I believe it would be nice to have a service that other
> applications can 
> ask for routes, not IP-routes but routes between locations.
> This service
> could then utilize other route providing services (GPS,
> google, MS
> virtual earth, local subway webpage etc) to find the actual
> routes.
> 
> I think it would be useful if the service provided some
> "plugin"
> functionality, preferably through some scripting language, so
> it would
> be easy to extend it towards different route providing
> services. For 
> instance I believe most Subways have a web-page that you can
> ask to get
> information about trips, but they are all different, so the
> service
> would have to be adapted.
> 
> Some examples:
> 1. If I select an address in my address book I could ask the
> application 
> to give me directions on how to go there.
> 
> 2. My calendar could check the location of my next appointment
> and get
> my current location from the GPS to send off an alarm a couple
> of
> minutes before I need to leave, based on the Route Finder
> service 
> estimation of the travel time.
> 
> Best Regards,
> Lars Persson Fink
> 
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Re: Idea: Route Finder Service

2007-10-18 Thread Jonathan Greene 
very cool ... as I understand it the location service is available to the
entire system and there's an API for this... (I'm not a developer either).
The N800 will also support this via Bluetooth GPS... with the new 2008 OS.

On 10/19/07, Lars Persson Fink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I (like most others) saw the news of the N810, with built in GPS.
> Someone suggested that the maemo community could work for more location
> aware applications, that got me thinking about the idea of the Route
> Finder Service.
>
> Unfortunately I do not have the time or competence needed in order to
> actually implement this, so I am posting it in the hope that someone
> else may do it.
>
> I believe it would be nice to have a service that other applications can
> ask for routes, not IP-routes but routes between locations. This service
> could then utilize other route providing services (GPS, google, MS
> virtual earth, local subway webpage etc) to find the actual routes.
>
> I think it would be useful if the service provided some "plugin"
> functionality, preferably through some scripting language, so it would
> be easy to extend it towards different route providing services. For
> instance I believe most Subways have a web-page that you can ask to get
> information about trips, but they are all different, so the service
> would have to be adapted.
>
> Some examples:
> 1. If I select an address in my address book I could ask the application
> to give me directions on how to go there.
>
> 2. My calendar could check the location of my next appointment and get
> my current location from the GPS to send off an alarm a couple of
> minutes before I need to leave, based on the Route Finder service
> estimation of the travel time.
>
> Best Regards,
> Lars Persson Fink
>
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