Re: Steve's Ranty Review #1: N800 ogg support and the repository question
On Fri, Oct 19, 2007 at 04:30:50PM +, Steve Greenland wrote: Probably the easiest workable solution is something like the Debian unstable/testing process, whereby packages are uploaded to unstable, and migrate to testing after meeting certain criteria (no new serious bugs, installs with only other testing packages, etc.) I'd like to point one [obvious] thing: Debian uses single bug tracking system for all its packages, hence checking whether a package is having serious problems is very easy. For packages in extras{,-testing} repository this might not be the case. Cheers -- Misha signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Steve's Ranty Review #1: N800 ogg support and the repository question
According to Mikhail Sobolev [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Fri, Oct 19, 2007 at 04:30:50PM +, Steve Greenland wrote: Probably the easiest workable solution is something like the Debian unstable/testing process, whereby packages are uploaded to unstable, and migrate to testing after meeting certain criteria (no new serious bugs, installs with only other testing packages, etc.) I'd like to point one [obvious] thing: Debian uses single bug tracking system for all its packages, hence checking whether a package is having serious problems is very easy. For packages in extras{,-testing} repository this might not be the case. Well, that just means that there would need to be a single BTS for the extra repository, which would be a good thing. Expecting users to track down package specific bug trackers is absurd. I understand Nokia need to keep a separate repo and BTS for official, corporately supported, anything-else-will-make-your-tablet-explode packages. So the community needs a seperate repo and BTS. But there needs to be only one of these. By only one, I don't mean to limit categorization such as bora vs. mistral or (possibly) tested vs. unstable. But we don't need a doesn't different websites with a dozen different BTS and three dozen different variants of libgtk. Of course, nobody is forced to use this hypothetical central repo. But the current situation is not what I'd call user friendly. Steve -- Steve Greenland The irony is that Bill Gates claims to be making a stable operating system and Linus Torvalds claims to be trying to take over the world. -- seen on the net ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Steve's Ranty Review #1: N800 ogg support and the repository question
On Friday 19 October 2007 09:30:50 Steve Greenland wrote: According to Krischan Keitsch [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The optimum may be between the two - meaning we need some kind of a quality management for the community efforts. To approve that just verified and checked apps are in the official and universe repositories. So that Jill Random and ourselves can benefit from rock solid high quality apps. What do you think? Who is going to do the testing and certification? It's a lot of work, and not particularly rewarding. And I can guarantee that sooner or later some developers will feel personally maltreated by any such group. Probably the easiest workable solution is something like the Debian unstable/testing process, whereby packages are uploaded to unstable, and migrate to testing after meeting certain criteria (no new serious bugs, installs with only other testing packages, etc.) But I'd settle for just getting people to use one repo, rather than setting up there own. Regards, Steve Heck I'm hoping for an agreement on how to spell Utilities (Ok cheap shot meant to be humorous not mean.) But case sensitive does yield fun in this area. James ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Steve's Ranty Review #1: N800 ogg support and the repository question
According to Krischan Keitsch [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The optimum may be between the two - meaning we need some kind of a quality management for the community efforts. To approve that just verified and checked apps are in the official and universe repositories. So that Jill Random and ourselves can benefit from rock solid high quality apps. What do you think? Who is going to do the testing and certification? It's a lot of work, and not particularly rewarding. And I can guarantee that sooner or later some developers will feel personally maltreated by any such group. Probably the easiest workable solution is something like the Debian unstable/testing process, whereby packages are uploaded to unstable, and migrate to testing after meeting certain criteria (no new serious bugs, installs with only other testing packages, etc.) But I'd settle for just getting people to use one repo, rather than setting up there own. Regards, Steve -- Steve Greenland The irony is that Bill Gates claims to be making a stable operating system and Linus Torvalds claims to be trying to take over the world. -- seen on the net ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users