Re: Which SDHC is which when using backup.

2008-10-06 Thread Marius Vollmer
ext Hendrik Boom [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 So I ask -- which is which?

They should have different icons... the one where only the upper right
quarter of the card is exposed is the internal one.
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Re: Which SDHC is which when using backup.

2008-10-06 Thread Marius Vollmer
Marius Vollmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 ext Hendrik Boom [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 So I ask -- which is which?

 They should have different icons... the one where only the upper right
 quarter of the card is exposed is the internal one.

Ahh, sorry, didn't see the backup qualification.  They have different
icons in the File manager, but no icons in the Backup/Restore
application.  Could be fixed...
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Re: Which SDHC is which when using backup.

2008-10-06 Thread kenneth marken
On Monday 06 October 2008 13:25:29 Marius Vollmer wrote:
 Marius Vollmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  ext Hendrik Boom [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  So I ask -- which is which?
 
  They should have different icons... the one where only the upper right
  quarter of the card is exposed is the internal one.

 Ahh, sorry, didn't see the backup qualification.  They have different
 icons in the File manager, but no icons in the Backup/Restore
 application.  Could be fixed...

two suggestions.

1. erase the filesystem name of the cards, this makes the tablets call 
them internal/external memory card by default.

2. give them recognicable names so that you can tell one from the other.
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Re: Which SDHC is which when using backup.

2008-10-05 Thread Dave Neary
Hi Mark, list,

Mark wrote:
 Yeah, it's not at all obvious, and in fact it's counter-intuitive: the
 external slot is mmc1 and the internal is mmc2. (So in your case
 Kingson is probably the external card and Kingston (2) is probably
 the internal card.) I solved the problem by changing the volume
 labels, but the built-in file manager doesn't have that capability. I
 used a USB reader and labeled my cards with my desktop machine. I
 labeled mine 8gbinternal and 8gbexternal and made sure I put them
 in the respective slots.

snip

This is great information - and I'm wondering what's the best way to
ensure that future people with this type of question find it - is the
search feature on maemo.org which includes mailing list posts (I
believe) sufficient, or do you think that it would be useful to extract
answers like this (and Tuuka's follow-up) into a wiki page to make the
information more easily accessible?

Cheers,
Dave.
-- 
maemo.org docsmaster
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Re: Which SDHC is which when using backup.

2008-10-03 Thread Tuukka Tolvanen
On 03.10.2008 22:40, Hendrik Boom wrote:
 I just put two Kingston 8G SDHC's into my n800, one in the internal stol
 and one in the external one.

 I started the backup program, and after determining what I wanted to back
 up, it asked me where to do it.  It gave me two choices:
   Kingston
 or
   Kingston (2)

 Before when I had just the one Nokia provided with my machine, it would
 offer me the External SD card (Or some other words like this).

 So I ask -- which is which?  Is there some way of marking the cards
 electronically?  It seems to give different messages trot the Kingston
 and Nokia cards, so there must be some kind of label.  Or is there a way

Select the card in the file manager's left pane; menu - file - rename. 
...of course you'll have to find out which one is which for that ;)

If the volume label is empty, you get the Internal/External Card 
strings. Looks like the file manager rename can't remove a label to 
achieve that, though.

't.
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Re: Which SDHC is which when using backup.

2008-10-03 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Fri, 03 Oct 2008 14:55:59 -0600, Mark wrote:

 Yeah, it's not at all obvious, and in fact it's counter-intuitive: the
 external slot is mmc1 and the internal is mmc2. (So in your case
 Kingson is probably the external card and Kingston (2) is probably
 the internal card.)

Yes, that was right.

 I solved the problem by changing the volume labels,
 but the built-in file manager doesn't have that capability. I used a USB
 reader and labeled my cards with my desktop machine. I labeled mine
 8gbinternal and 8gbexternal and made sure I put them in the
 respective slots.
 
 Be careful using Windows to label your cards, especially if they are
 identical. I had a heck of a time sorting them out that way and ended up
 using Linux instead.

How do you do that on Linux?  As for a card reader, can I use the N800 
for that when it's plugged into my computer's USB port?

-- hendrik


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Re: Which SDHC is which when using backup.

2008-10-03 Thread Tuukka Tolvanen
On 04.10.2008 00:21, Hendrik Boom wrote:
 On Fri, 03 Oct 2008 14:55:59 -0600, Mark wrote:

 Yeah, it's not at all obvious, and in fact it's counter-intuitive: the
 external slot is mmc1 and the internal is mmc2. (So in your case
 Kingson is probably the external card and Kingston (2) is probably
 the internal card.)

 Yes, that was right.

 I solved the problem by changing the volume labels,
 but the built-in file manager doesn't have that capability. I used a USB
 reader and labeled my cards with my desktop machine. I labeled mine
 8gbinternal and 8gbexternal and made sure I put them in the
 respective slots.

 Be careful using Windows to label your cards, especially if they are
 identical. I had a heck of a time sorting them out that way and ended up
 using Linux instead.

 How do you do that on Linux?  As for a card reader, can I use the N800
 for that when it's plugged into my computer's USB port?

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RenameUSBDrive and yes.

't.
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Re: Which SDHC is which when using backup.

2008-10-03 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sat, 04 Oct 2008 00:19:29 +0300, Tuukka Tolvanen wrote:

 
 Select the card in the file manager's left pane; menu - file - rename.

It worked.  Thanks.  That was easy.

 ...of course you'll have to find out which one is which for that ;)

Bootstrapped the identity question by taking one out.

 
 If the volume label is empty, you get the Internal/External Card
 strings. Looks like the file manager rename can't remove a label to
 achieve that, though.

And that explains it all.

 
 't.


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Re: Which SDHC is which when using backup.

2008-10-03 Thread Mark
On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 3:21 PM, Hendrik Boom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 How do you do that on Linux?  As for a card reader, can I use the N800
 for that when it's plugged into my computer's USB port?

 -- hendrik


Looks like all the questions have been answered, but I want to
emphasize the point that if you use the N800 for a reader with your
desktop, there's still going to be confusion as to which card is which
unless you take one card out first.

Mark
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