Re: [Mageia-dev] Tainted Software - once more
Le jeudi 14 avril 2011 à 17:47 +0200, Romain d'Alverny a écrit : > On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 16:02, Frank Griffin wrote: > > On 04/14/2011 07:28 AM, Tux99 wrote: > >> > >> Does anyone know what the status of the buildsystem with regards to > >> building dual core/tainted packages from a single source rpm is? > > Not done yet. It's in sysadmin team's TODO (the usual "sysadmin team > members welcomes people to help" is still valid). People can just subscribe to https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=338 -- Michael Scherer
Re: [Mageia-dev] Tainted Software - once more
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 16:02, Frank Griffin wrote: > On 04/14/2011 07:28 AM, Tux99 wrote: >> >> Does anyone know what the status of the buildsystem with regards to >> building dual core/tainted packages from a single source rpm is? Not done yet. It's in sysadmin team's TODO (the usual "sysadmin team members welcomes people to help" is still valid). > And to re-ask a related question that was never resolved: is "tainted" > supposed to be a replacement for PLF, or will PLF still be required for > those who want/need packages with legal limitations ? We still need to improve on that yes (would it be only for Tier2 mirrors). To be discussed at the next Council? Anyway, there's no general rule for that, further than: what goes here is: - what is either free software or not (could go in core or nonfree), - but that may not be redistributable in some areas (because of software patents or other issues). Defining what is the valid reference area to allow redistribution is not done yet, but we can aim at Europe/France (this is where the primary mirror is) - the only main threat I can see here is the coming European Patent initiative, however I am not sure what stance this one will take regarding the possibility of software patents. That in turn doesn't mean that redistribution of tainted _is_ forbidden out of this reference area. But it means that software that could be forbidden, may be included in tainted. Others may confirm that this will cover most of what PLF provides already - but that there will be some packages left anyway. For all the rest (stuff we can't, for certain, legally distribute within EU/France), you'll need a separate repository Mageia.Org can't Now, what the precise list of packages in tainted is... depends on packagers. See current: http://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/Mageia/distrib/cauldron/i586/media/tainted/release/ However, for sure, there should be a list maintained somewhere of the list of software that cannot be added in tainted, and for what reason (and what the resolution of it would need to be). So that each request for a potential package in tainted gets documented. Romain
Re: [Mageia-dev] Tainted Software - once more
On 04/14/2011 07:28 AM, Tux99 wrote: Does anyone know what the status of the buildsystem with regards to building dual core/tainted packages from a single source rpm is? And to re-ask a related question that was never resolved: is "tainted" supposed to be a replacement for PLF, or will PLF still be required for those who want/need packages with legal limitations ?
Re: [Mageia-dev] Tainted Software - once more
Quote: Oliver Burger wrote on Mon, 28 March 2011 10:17 > What about packages, we need twice, once in core, once in > tainted (media player come to mind)? > Will the buildsystem be able to create both out of one single > src.rpm? If not, how else to do it? Does anyone know what the status of the buildsystem with regards to building dual core/tainted packages from a single source rpm is? Is it now possible to build mplayer, gstreamer, vlc, xine with support for 'tainted' codecs? Is this planned for Mageia1 or are 'tainted' codecs (for example h.264) not considered important for Mageia1? -- Mageia ML Forum Gateway: http://mageia.linuxtech.net/forum/
Re: [Mageia-dev] Tainted Software - once more
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 10:17, Oliver Burger wrote: > What is our policy about "tainted packages"? It's quite clear we have to check > every one of them, if they can be distributed by us, but do we have any > guidlines? The guidelines should be progressive: what goes into core, what goes into nonfree, what goes into tainted, and the rest (if there is). I guess that's what's needed? As for guidelines regarding tainted, there's this draft relative to sw patents that did not make a lot of progress so far: http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=software_patents_policy . As a more general guideline, I'd suggest to wait at least for this evening meeting since we will discuss/clear out the issue regarding core/nonfree (and hopefully of their respective inclusion on some of our releases ISOs). Romain
[Mageia-dev] Tainted Software - once more
Hi, since the package version freeze is coming nearer (April, 20th), perhaps we should discuss the "tainted" issue once more. What is our policy about "tainted packages"? It's quite clear we have to check every one of them, if they can be distributed by us, but do we have any guidlines? What about packages, we need twice, once in core, once in tainted (media player come to mind)? Will the buildsystem be able to create both out of one single src.rpm? If not, how else to do it? Oliver
