Re: [Mailman-Developers] OT: Re: user table in Mailman3 with PostgreSQL
Thanks, it all makes sense now! On Wednesday, July 16, 2014 7:20 PM, Barry Warsaw wrote: On Jul 16, 2014, at 08:20 AM, 'ML mail' via barry wrote: >Thanks for the details but actually I was now only asking in which table are >stored the e-mail addresses of a mailing's list subscribers? I thought they >would be stored in the "user" table but I can't see any e-mail addresses >there, neither in the member table. Correct. It's useful to understand the model. http://pythonhosted.org//mailman/src/mailman/docs/8-miles-high.html#user-model Users have an id and a display name. Addresses are separate objects linked to at most one user. A user can be linked to many addresses. Members associate an address/user with a mailing list[*] under a specific role. Rosters are "magical" objects which perform queries to answer questions like "all the regular delivery members of a mailing list" or "all of the list's moderators". So the information you're looking for isn't captured in a single table. You'll have to do a query to get the email addresses of a mailing list's subscribers. Take a look at the roster implementations for details. Cheers, -Barry [*] A member links a user only if that user has a preferred address. ___ Mailman-Developers mailing list Mailman-Developers@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-developers Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-developers%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-developers/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Developers] OT: Re: user table in Mailman3 with PostgreSQL
Thanks, it all makes sense now! On Wednesday, July 16, 2014 7:20 PM, Barry Warsaw wrote: On Jul 16, 2014, at 08:20 AM, 'ML mail' via barry wrote: >Thanks for the details but actually I was now only asking in which table are >stored the e-mail addresses of a mailing's list subscribers? I thought they >would be stored in the "user" table but I can't see any e-mail addresses >there, neither in the member table. Correct. It's useful to understand the model. http://pythonhosted.org//mailman/src/mailman/docs/8-miles-high.html#user-model Users have an id and a display name. Addresses are separate objects linked to at most one user. A user can be linked to many addresses. Members associate an address/user with a mailing list[*] under a specific role. Rosters are "magical" objects which perform queries to answer questions like "all the regular delivery members of a mailing list" or "all of the list's moderators". So the information you're looking for isn't captured in a single table. You'll have to do a query to get the email addresses of a mailing list's subscribers. Take a look at the roster implementations for details. Cheers, -Barry [*] A member links a user only if that user has a preferred address. ___ Mailman-Developers mailing list Mailman-Developers@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-developers Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-developers%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-developers/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Developers] OT: Re: user table in Mailman3 with PostgreSQL
On Jul 16, 2014, at 08:20 AM, 'ML mail' via barry wrote: >Thanks for the details but actually I was now only asking in which table are >stored the e-mail addresses of a mailing's list subscribers? I thought they >would be stored in the "user" table but I can't see any e-mail addresses >there, neither in the member table. Correct. It's useful to understand the model. http://pythonhosted.org//mailman/src/mailman/docs/8-miles-high.html#user-model Users have an id and a display name. Addresses are separate objects linked to at most one user. A user can be linked to many addresses. Members associate an address/user with a mailing list[*] under a specific role. Rosters are "magical" objects which perform queries to answer questions like "all the regular delivery members of a mailing list" or "all of the list's moderators". So the information you're looking for isn't captured in a single table. You'll have to do a query to get the email addresses of a mailing list's subscribers. Take a look at the roster implementations for details. Cheers, -Barry [*] A member links a user only if that user has a preferred address. ___ Mailman-Developers mailing list Mailman-Developers@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-developers Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-developers%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-developers/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Developers] OT: Re: user table in Mailman3 with PostgreSQL
Thanks for the details but actually I was now only asking in which table are stored the e-mail addresses of a mailing's list subscribers? I thought they would be stored in the "user" table but I can't see any e-mail addresses there, neither in the member table. On Wednesday, July 16, 2014 4:58 PM, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote: On 07/16/2014 10:34 AM, ML mail wrote: > Thanks for the trick with the double quotes to escape reserved keywords. It's probably worth reading the PostgreSQL documentation for this sort of thing: http://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.3/static/sql-syntax-lexical.html#SQL-SYNTAX-IDENTIFIERS > Actually I wanted to display the content of the user table to find out in > which table are the subscribers of any mailing list recorded. Do you have any > idea? You already know how to find the content of the table: select * from "tablename" If you're asking about inspecting the table structure from the psql command line, you probably want \d "tablename" or one of its variants. If you're not familiar with the psql command line, you probably want to know about the two main help commands: \? and \h. For further questions about postgresql, you should ask on a psql-specific mailing list. The current list is for discussing mailman, so we are increasingly off-topic. You can find a good set of postgresql mailing lists here: http://www.postgresql.org/list/ Regards, --dkg ___ Mailman-Developers mailing list Mailman-Developers@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-developers Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-developers%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-developers/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Developers] OT: Re: user table in Mailman3 with PostgreSQL
On 07/16/2014 10:34 AM, ML mail wrote: > Thanks for the trick with the double quotes to escape reserved keywords. It's probably worth reading the PostgreSQL documentation for this sort of thing: http://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.3/static/sql-syntax-lexical.html#SQL-SYNTAX-IDENTIFIERS > Actually I wanted to display the content of the user table to find out in > which table are the subscribers of any mailing list recorded. Do you have any > idea? You already know how to find the content of the table: select * from "tablename" If you're asking about inspecting the table structure from the psql command line, you probably want \d "tablename" or one of its variants. If you're not familiar with the psql command line, you probably want to know about the two main help commands: \? and \h. For further questions about postgresql, you should ask on a psql-specific mailing list. The current list is for discussing mailman, so we are increasingly off-topic. You can find a good set of postgresql mailing lists here: http://www.postgresql.org/list/ Regards, --dkg signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Mailman-Developers mailing list Mailman-Developers@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-developers Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-developers%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-developers/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
