Re: [Mailman-Developers] GSOC - Dashboard for Admins/Owners/Moderators

2015-03-17 Thread Yash Mehrotra
Thank you all for your feedback.
Previously, what I was going for was a multipage dashboard with varying
functionality.
I will now change my design, which will be something of a single page
dashboard allowing the admin to do his daily tasks with ease and other
tasks such as creating new lists etc.
Also Stephen mentioned that somethings are a part of mailman core. If it is
required, I can work on mailman core ( I am experienced in python )
I also showed Abhilash a rough mock-up of my idea. I will make appropriate
changes to the mock-up and show it to you.

To florian -
The bug thing was kind of my fault, I submitted a patch and wanted to know
any mentor's opinion on that, and then I would have sent a merge request.

To all -
I ,now ,basically have a much better idea and understanding on how to
implement this.Thank you all.

One last thing though,
Is there anything else left to be discussed in dashboard idea ( something
obvious that I may have missed out) ?

Yash Mehrotra
yashmehrotr...@gmail.com

On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 11:15 PM, Florian Fuchs f...@florianfuchs.com wrote:

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 Am 13.03.2015 um 12:20 schrieb Yash Mehrotra:
  5. We also also give each list its individual page, so the admin
  can do list specific functions like, say change settings , ban user
  etc.

 That's probably out of the scope of this project. The lists already
 have moderation/settings pages. No need to redo this. If something can
 be improved on that end, it's probably part of a separate effort.

  *Bug Fixes* I have also submitted a patch for a bug in postorius (
  waiting for some to look at it) and am also working on a bug in
  Mailman core.

 I can't see a merge proposal from you for postorius, could you check
 if your bugfix branch is proposed for merging? Oh, and don't forget to
 add a link to the MP to your application.

 Florian

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Re: [Mailman-Developers] Regarding Subscriber profile pages project

2015-03-17 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Ashish Kumar writes:

  1. Use of different email addresses - so called aliases - for sending
  emails: This is a good point as a user perspective. We will give user an
  option to save an email address and out of the entered email address we
  will ask which email address he/she want to use for sending email. I think
  we can extend this feature for moderators and owners too.

I don't see how you plan to do this.  Picking the right alias is a MUA
function, not a list function.  Please be more specific about the
workflow you have in mind.  Have aliases sounds good, but what does
this mean for the user's actions and the system's responses?  If you
just mean multiple subscriptions under different addresses, Mailman
has always allowed that (it's impossible to prevent), and made it
convenient by providing a no mail flag for the address.

  2. Dynamic list: It is also another idea for subscribers.

This is a separate project.

  3. There is also a feature about essay. The essay feature can be enabled by
  the list creator when creating the list, and at the same time the list
  creator can choose which questions to ask. The default when enabling this
  feature are the questions used for the Systers maillist but by simply
  editing the field with the questions the list creator can choose to have
  other questions instead. [ Reference : Above link]

I think you'll find that editing is not so simple.  Users will not do
this right.  Many cannot handle simple formatting rules like
reStructuredText or Markdown.  So you will need to provide an
interface that automatically numbers the questions, allows the user
to insert, delete, edit, and reorder questions, and cleans the
question (eg stripping leading and trailing whitespace) as well as
allowing an optional/required setting per question.  Bonus points for
a device that allows the questions asked to depend on previous
answers.  Perhaps content length constraints (maximum for most
questions, minimum for essay) per question.  Image uploads (must be
able to validate!!)  All answers must be validated.

  I have a doubt if essay feature can be part of subscriber's profile
  page.

Yes, it should be.  Systers has been a good citizen in our community,
it would be bad if we borrowed some of their ideas but didn't provide
a pretty complete set of their features and they had to continue their
fork just to get basic features.

Barry also has dreams of making Mailman a community center that
obsoletes web fora and maybe even Facebook.  Even though we were just
joking when we talked about that, I think these features make a lot of
sense for many communities, not just Systers.

Please submit a proposal on Melange, addressing most of the points
above.  If you're still not sure this is the project you want to do,
check GSoC but I believe you're allowed to submit up to 5 proposals
total and no rule against more than one to same org.  If you feel very
unsure  about it, say so, but putting it in Melange makes it a lot
easier to manage because it's a single design and plan.  ML
discussions without such a focus don't work well.

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Re: [Mailman-Developers] Student proposal under the idea Better handling of list styles

2015-03-17 Thread Abhilash Raj
Hi,

We suggest that you post all your queries about Google Summer of Code to
mailman-developers@python.org mailing list.


On Tuesday 17 March 2015 07:33 PM, Mallem Nagapurnika wrote:
 I am M. Naga Purnika, second year undergraduate student at B.V.R.I.T
 Hyderabad College of Engineering for Women.
 
 I have learning experience in python and HTML5(CSS, JavaScript).
 
 As part of my project I have an idea of developing a mailing list with an
 interactive interface that can support many features apart from handling
 the mails.
 
 My Senior Mentor has advised me to refer mailman which is an open source
 platform to develop and better handling of mailing lists.
 
 I have gone through it and tried to build a sample mailing list but
 couldn't complete it successfully due to inconvenient interface which is
 difficult for beginners like me.
 
 Later I have found that GSOC 2015 has opened a project on Mailman which is
 similar to my project. So I would like to be a part of the project headed
 under Better handling of list styles.  I would be privileged in
 contributing my ideas that could be helpful to improve the management of
 list styles.

There has been previous discussion on this topic on this list, please
browse through the archives of this list and you would have lots of
stuff to get started. We need something more than I am interested in
this project idea to help you. Also please read Ideas Page carefully.

 My Current Status:
 Created virtual environments for Postorious and Mailman-Core
 Started creating a sample mailing list and currently working on it
 
 May i get any help regarding to proceed further.
 
 thanks
 Purnika
 

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thanks,
Abhilash



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