[Mailman-Users] HTML formatting in digests

[marina]

Will the formatting of email messages in digests be fixed in 2.1?

The reason I'm asking is that, even though I do have access to a 
competent Python programmer, we manage a large mailing list on a 
server that we do not have admin access to. We get daily complaints 
from Internet users about the formatting of the digests.

For those who have never seen this digest problem, I include an 
excerpt from yesterday's digest for the Mailman-user group (no 
criticism of the poster, btw - this is a common problem).

Thanks,

marina



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  >Content-Type: text/html;
  > charset="iso-8859-1"
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  >
  >
  >RE: [Mailman-Users] Point directly to listinfo
  >
  >
  >
  >Thanks for the suggestion, but I am  not sure 
of the exact meaning of your solution.
  >
  >
  >Here's what Ii understand:
  >
  >
  >I checked my /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf file and 
yes it says:
  >
  >
  >LoadModule rewrite_module 
modules/mod_rewrite.so
  >
  >
  >in the file.
  >
  >
  >Then I copied the lines you suggest in that file (I 
placed them right after the ScriptAlias lines)
  >I restarted the httpd daemon (killall -HUP httpd) 
and accessed my site. Same page as before. Am I missing a step?
  >
  >
  >Thanks
  >
  >
  >MGL
  >
  >
  >> -Original Message-
  >> From: Richard Barrett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]";>mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  >> Sent: February 6, 2002 12:33 PM
  >> To: Lafleur Maurice; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  >> Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Point directly 
to listinfo
  >> 
  >> 
  >> At 11:45 06/02/2002 -0500, Lafleur Maurice 
wrote:
  >> 
  >> >The list server I am setting up is only 
used for lists. I 
  >> want the default 
  >> >page from apache to be 
my.server.org/mailman/listinfo 
  >> directly. I tried to 
  >> >make a symlink between 
/var/www/html/index.html and 
  >> >/home/mailmna/cgi-bin/listinfo :
  >> >
  >> >ln -s /home/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo 
/var/www/html/index.html
  >> 
  >> This will not work as you are trying to link 
a static page to 
  >> a cgi script. 
  >> The link is fine but Apache cannot interpret 
this as you want.
  >> 
  >> Asdsuming you have mod_rewrite installed, the 
following 
  >> Apache re-write 
  >> rules will work to "transparently" 
redirect the URI '/' and 
  >> '/index.html' 
  >> to the cgi-script
  >> 
  >> RewriteRule ^/$ /mailman/listinfo [PT]
  >> RewriteRule ^/index.html$ /mailman/listinfo [PT]
  >> 
  >> Whether you will get any knock-on problems 
with the browser 
  >> interpreting 
  >> relative links on the pages returned 
incorrectly is another 
  >> issue. If that 
  >> happens your may want to use the rewrite 
rules to redirect / 
  >> and /index.html:
  >> 
  >> RewriteRule ^/$ /mailman/listinfo [R,L]
  >> RewriteRule ^/index.html$ /mailman/listinfo 
[R,L]
  >> 
  >> 
  >> >but I get a Mailman CGI error page when I 
browse my server.
  >> >
  >> >If I access 
  >> >http://my.server.org/mailman/listinfo>http://my.server.org/m"; 
TARGET="_blank">http://my.server.org/m
  >ailman/listinfo 
  >>directly it works fine.
  >>
  >>I know it is something real simple and obvious 
but I can't seem to think 
  >>strait today.
  >>
  >>Thanks
  >>
  >>MGL
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Re: [Mailman-Users] question

[Stephen J. Turnbull]

> "Jon" == Jon Carnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Jon> It would involve adding a preprocessor to the mailing list.
Jon> For some folks that is easily accomplished (do-able in about
Jon> four hours), but for folks who have never done it before, it
Jon> can be a real time-sink to get up and running.

And some list managers are not site admins.

I've been waiting since October for my sysadmin to set up a way for me
to maintain an /etc/procmail/my_list, which would make things a lot
cleaner than relaying through my (otherwise unused for mail) personal
account.  But many list managers won't have either of those options.


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[Mailman-Users] Possible to change $DATE$ display format?

[Ed Reiss]

I'd like to change the format with which $DATE$ is displayed in the
general (by date) archive from:

Wed, 6 Feb 2002 16:13:10 -0700 (MST)
to
Wed, Feb 6 2002 16:13:10 -0700 (MST)

Thanks for any help.

Regards,
Ed Reiss


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[Mailman-Users] Relay access denied

[Morgan Fletcher]

I'm trying to run mailman 2.0.8 on NetBSD 1.5.1 with postfix. When I create
a list and it tries to send mail to a valid external address (for the list
owner), postfix doesn't send the message and I see this in maillog:

  Recipient address rejected: Relay access denied

I've created user and group mailman, mailman. User mailman is in group
mailman.

As another user, I've done './configure --with-mail-gid=mailman', then
'sudo make DIRSETGID=: install', then 'chown -R mailman *' in
/home/mailman. (ref: README.BSD)

I've added a local alias map to /etc/postfix/main.cf:

  alias_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/aliases, hash:/home/mailman/aliases

The file /home/mailman/aliases looks like this:

  ## test mailing list
  ## created: 06-Feb-2002 mailman
  test: "|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper post test"
  test-admin:   "|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper mailowner test"
  test-request: "|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper mailcmd test"
  test-owner:   test-admin

If I do 'praliases -f aliases' as mailman I see my aliases.

The command 'hostname' reports 'www.ourdomain.com', and 
'/usr/sbin/postconf | grep ourd' reports:

  mydomain = ourdomain.com
  myhostname = mail.ourdomain.com

The mailman account can directly email the external address that is the
owner of the 'test' list and the mail is delivered.

I'm at a loss. Can you help me out? 

Morgan

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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman and postfix

[Rodolfo Pilas]

El mié, 06-02-2002 a las 16:46, Nadeem Hasan escribió:
> Hi all,
> 
> I am trying to use mailman with postfix. I recompiled mailman as
> described in /usr/share/doc/packages/mailman/README.SuSE by using:
> 
> --with-cgi-gid=$NOGROUPGID --with-mail-gid=$NOGROUPGID
> 
> $NOGROUPGID expands to "nogroup" (gid 65534). Now, I get the following
> error from mailman wrapper when I try to test:
> 
> WANTED gid 65534, GOT gid 28.  (Reconfigure to take 28?)
> 
> Where gid 28 is "mdom". Did I miss anything here? What more do
> I have to do to make it work so that I don't make postfix any less
> secure?

Try with --with-mail-gid=mdom 

However, I suggest you to uninstall SuSE's mailman package, download the
package from MM site and 

./configure --prefix=/usr/lib/mailman
--with-var-prefix=/var/spool/mailman --with-mail-gid=mailman
--with-cgi-gid=nogroup

make install

cd /usr/lib/mailman

bin/check_perms 

bin/mailmanctl start


The above directories of $PREFIX are the original SuSE's mailman
installation.

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[Mailman-Users] Lists transfer

[David Lin]

Hi,

New to Linux + Mailman.  I have a Red Hat 6.2 with Mailman 2.0beta2 and
going to build a Red Hat 7.2 with Mailman 2.0.8.  I have three list on the
old box where I need to transfer to the new one.  Can someone please direct
me a way?  thanks.

David


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Default password

[Jon Carnes]

Mailman assigns a random password.  You can use various tools such as
~mailman/bin/dbdump to examine the database and see the password that each
user has.  You will also find several scripts for playing with users
passwords in the FAQ (check out the Apache htaccess link to mailman
passwords).

Jon Carnes
- Original Message -
From: "Fernando Maquiaveli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 1:51 PM
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Default password


> Hi
>
> When a user is added using membership management (mass subscripion members
> option), what is the default password for new members.
> Tank you.
>
> Fernando Maquiaveli
> Ativa S/A Corretora de títulos e valores
> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Fone: 55 11 3168-5088
> Fax:  55 11 3168-4001
>
>
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Re: [Mailman-Users] What do you think of this idea to keep external people from subscribing?

[Jon Carnes]

Try it, it should work fine.  Your users will be stuck using the web, but
that's not so bad.

- Original Message -
From: "Jessica Koeppel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 9:06 PM
Subject: [Mailman-Users] What do you think of this idea to keep external
people from subscribing?


>
> I've got a bunch of lists which I want to have set so that anyone can
> subscribe themselves very easily.
>
> However - I want only people on my internal network to be able to do this.
>
> The web interface is accessible only internally, so that's easy.
>
> But [EMAIL PROTECTED] is still there - random outsiders could
> email that and get subscribed.
>
> Would I lose anything *important* if I simply removed the listname-request
> alias from my aliases, disabling that way of subscribing?
>
> --jessica
>
>
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Default url.

[Jon Carnes]

web-admin
  general options page
"Base URL... "

Be careful, and get it right or you'll have to restore the list from the
config.db.last

Jon Carnes
- Original Message -
From: "John Culleton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 2:14 PM
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Default url.


> I use Mailman on my home system, which is known locally as localhost
> but on the internet as publish.wexfordpress.net.
>
> When I create a mailing list it uses localhost. This is embedded in a
> config.db file.
>
> 1. How do I change the url in an existing list.
>
> 2. How do I set up mailman to always use publish.wexfordpress.net as the
url?
>
> Thanks,
>
> John culleton
>
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Stupid question:

[Jon Carnes]

First off, this is not a mailman question... but there are a lot of savvy
folks on the list, so you just might find what your looking for.

Second, I do a lot of things via email-triggers.  It is very simple to do,
but then of course I use one of the greatest MTA's ever: Sendmail!  .

Normally I send the email directly to a specific address on the server and
use the aliases file to parse the mail via a script.  Something like this:
  restart_vpn:  |"/usr/local/sbin/mail_restart_vpn"

when mail comes into my server addressed to "restart_vpn" it sends the mail
to the script /usr/local/sbin/mail_restart_vpn.  The script parses the
subject line looking for the proper password (and its just as easy to parse
the body of the email) and then reacts as I've instructed it.

Take a look at "man bash" and spend the night in front of your monitor
reading...

If you want to kick off scripts based on email that comes directly to your
account, then you might want to use a preprocessor like Procmail.  Your
system may already use procmail, in which case you can have it redirect mail
based on many different criteria, or even have it kick off scripts for you.

Failing all that, you might want to simply use "grep" and "cut" to isolate
data out of your mailbox and then feed that isolated data into your
programs.

Good luck, and have fun learning -

Jon Carnes
- Original Message -
From: "SA products" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 4:03 PM
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Stupid question:


>
> I would like to write a program to capture mail (on a system using
> IMAP and Exim) and
> parse the email to administer a database- I have so far got my mail
> parsing etc working fine
> and I am reading the email using the c-client  library.  This has not
> proved great as the c-client
> library is throwing "unknown" errors "at random" (ie I can say when or
> why it does this and it
> does not seem to be related to the input).
>
>
> So I am looking for another way to read the email from my IMAP inbox so
> I can parse it, act on it,
> save it somewhere and then delete it.
>
>
> Any hints?- where would you start looking in mailman to extract these
> features
>
>
> Thanks matt
>
>
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Re: [Mailman-Users] question

[Jon Carnes]

Your harried list manager is telling you the truth.  Now leave him alone!

Okay, he's telling the truth but he is leaving out that there are ways to
enforce text only emails on a list.  It would involve adding a preprocessor
to the mailing list.  For some folks that is easily accomplished (do-able in
about  four hours), but for folks who have never done it before, it can be a
real time-sink to get up and running.

You could, of course do the research for him... Pop on to www.google.com and
start searching for MTA add-ons like mimedefang.

Jon Carnes

- Original Message -
From: "Diana H. Bloomfield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 1:27 PM
Subject: [Mailman-Users] question


> I've written a couple of people about this, and I get conflicting
> answers.  Here's my question.  I belong(ed) to a discussion group for a
> couple of years.  Because the posts were so frequent, I opted for the
> digest version.  If people don't send in their e-mail in plain text, all
> the HTML coding and MIME junk comes across.  In the last few months
> especially, this became intolerable, with most of the digests filling an
> entire page with this stuff.
>
> I asked the list moderator to do something.  He didn't write in to the
> list at all, until someone else did, reminding everyone to send in
> e-mails in plain text.  Only then did he write something reminding
> everyone.  That works for about a day.  I waited a few weeks and asked
> again if there was nothing he could do to filter this mess out.  He said
> he "worked all day," had not time to spend on it, suggested I start my
> own list, and said his server would not allow him any filtering
> capabilities.  He uses Mailman 2.0.  Is this true?  He said he would
> have to moderate each e-mail individually and manually bounce each one
> back to the sender.
>
> I have read up on Mailman, and from what I can tell, Mailman does have
> the capability to do the automatic filtering (or whatever you call it).
> So is the list manager a liar, just stupid, or incompetent?  Is there
> any scenario that would not allow Mailman 2.0 to accomplish this task
> and this list manager to implement this?
>
> Thanks for your answer.  I ended up unsubscribing, because the junk was
> so intolerable.  I was getting more junk than messages.
>
> --D. Bloomfield
>
>
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[Mailman-Users] Stupid question:

[SA products]

I would like to write a program to capture mail (on a system using
IMAP and Exim) and
parse the email to administer a database- I have so far got my mail
parsing etc working fine
and I am reading the email using the c-client  library.  This has not
proved great as the c-client
library is throwing "unknown" errors "at random" (ie I can say when or
why it does this and it
does not seem to be related to the input).


So I am looking for another way to read the email from my IMAP inbox so
I can parse it, act on it,
save it somewhere and then delete it.


Any hints?- where would you start looking in mailman to extract these
features


Thanks matt


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[Mailman-Users] question

[Diana H. Bloomfield]

I've written a couple of people about this, and I get conflicting
answers.  Here's my question.  I belong(ed) to a discussion group for a
couple of years.  Because the posts were so frequent, I opted for the
digest version.  If people don't send in their e-mail in plain text, all
the HTML coding and MIME junk comes across.  In the last few months
especially, this became intolerable, with most of the digests filling an
entire page with this stuff.

I asked the list moderator to do something.  He didn't write in to the
list at all, until someone else did, reminding everyone to send in
e-mails in plain text.  Only then did he write something reminding
everyone.  That works for about a day.  I waited a few weeks and asked
again if there was nothing he could do to filter this mess out.  He said
he "worked all day," had not time to spend on it, suggested I start my
own list, and said his server would not allow him any filtering
capabilities.  He uses Mailman 2.0.  Is this true?  He said he would
have to moderate each e-mail individually and manually bounce each one
back to the sender.

I have read up on Mailman, and from what I can tell, Mailman does have
the capability to do the automatic filtering (or whatever you call it).
So is the list manager a liar, just stupid, or incompetent?  Is there
any scenario that would not allow Mailman 2.0 to accomplish this task
and this list manager to implement this?

Thanks for your answer.  I ended up unsubscribing, because the junk was
so intolerable.  I was getting more junk than messages.

--D. Bloomfield


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[Mailman-Users] Default password

[Fernando Maquiaveli]

Hi

When a user is added using membership management (mass subscripion members
option), what is the default password for new members.
Tank you.

Fernando Maquiaveli
Ativa S/A Corretora de títulos e valores
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fone: 55 11 3168-5088
Fax:  55 11 3168-4001



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[Mailman-Users] mailman + LDAP

[Francois PHILIPPO]

hi,

I 've just read an article about mailman and ldap. I'm interrested in.
I need to manage mailing via an LDAP (store all mailing information - quota 
- users ... in an LDAP)
- is it possible with mailman ?
- where could I find documentation about this ?


thanx


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[Mailman-Users] Default url.

[John Culleton]

I use Mailman on my home system, which is known locally as localhost
but on the internet as publish.wexfordpress.net. 

When I create a mailing list it uses localhost. This is embedded in a 
config.db file.

1. How do I change the url in an existing list.

2. How do I set up mailman to always use publish.wexfordpress.net as the url?

Thanks,

John culleton

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[Mailman-Users] What do you think of this idea to keep external people from subscribing?

[Jessica Koeppel]

I've got a bunch of lists which I want to have set so that anyone can
subscribe themselves very easily.

However - I want only people on my internal network to be able to do this.

The web interface is accessible only internally, so that's easy.

But [EMAIL PROTECTED] is still there - random outsiders could
email that and get subscribed.

Would I lose anything *important* if I simply removed the listname-request
alias from my aliases, disabling that way of subscribing?

--jessica


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[Mailman-Users] Re: [SM-USERS] Bug against Mozilla?

[Chris Hilts]

On Sun, Feb 03, 2002 at 11:07:47AM -0800, Ivan F. Poddubny wrote:
> This is well-known Mozilla 0.9.7 bug. Check buglist on Mozilla.org for
> more information. Workarond -- downgrade to 0.9.6 or use Opera/IE.

IMHO, downgrading to 0.9.6 is a non-option.  Downloading the most recent nightly build 
is probably better in
this case.

Chris Hilts
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[Mailman-Users] Returned mail to list

[Homeport - The USNA Alumni Online Community]

My mailman installation seems to be working fine but when I send mail to 
the list I get this response:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]; Action: Failed; Status: 5.1.1 (bad destination 
mailbox address)
Remote MTA usnaweb.org: SMTP diagnostic: 550 5.1.1 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... User unknown

Do I have to establish an explicit user for each mailing list?
If so, how do I pipe mail to Mailman?

If not, what am I doing wrong?

Thanks, 

--Ray

Ray Trygstad
Editor, http://homeport.usnaweb.org/



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[Mailman-Users] Re: [SM-USERS] Bug against Mozilla?

[Konstantin Riabitsev]

On Tue, 2002-02-05 at 09:24, Chris Hilts wrote:
> IMHO, downgrading to 0.9.6 is a non-option.  Downloading the most recent nightly 
>build is probably better in
> this case.

Or, you can grab a fresh 0.9.8. ;)

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[Mailman-Users] RHL 7.2 and mailman-2.0.8-1.i386.rpm problems

[Richard Cardona]

I apologize if this has been covered somewhere, but I haven't been able to
find it.

I installed the rpm and followed all the instructions in the
/usr/share/doc/mailman-2.0.8/README.REDHAT file.

In a nutshell, it instructs the user to run
mmsitepass
enable sendmail to accept outside connections
add configurations to httpd (ScriptAlias /mailman/ /var/mailman/cgi-bin/
--etc)

I've done that.

I can create lists, use the web interface (http://myserver/mailman/admin)

etc...

I can subscribe users, they get a welcome message, all seems to work up to
this point.

***

If I send mail to the list from myserver, I get a message bounced back to
me:

The original message was received at Tue, 5 Feb 2002 18:35:47 -0500
from rcardona@localhost

   - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(reason: 550 5.1.1 User unknown)

   - Transcript of session follows -
550 5.1.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] User unknown


If I send mail to the list from another server, it disappears.

***

Any suggestions?


Thanks

Rich Cardona


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[Mailman-Users] never get instructions on how to visit the list

[Donna Hanlon]

Hi,

After installing mailman-2.0.6 on Linux RedHat 7.1, I ran newlist test
and added the resulting aliases to /etc/asiases and ran newaliases.  I
never get the email explaining how to visit the list.  Here are the
lines from /var/log/maillog:

Feb  5 09:17:47 myhost sendmail[1664]: g15FHlB01664: tcpwrappers myhost,
127.0.0.1) rejection
Feb  5 09:17:47 myhost sendmail[1664]: NOQUEUE: myhost [127.0.0.1] did
not issue MAIL/EXPN/VRFY/ETRN during connection to MTA

Here are log files from /usr/local/mailman/logs:

sh-2.04$ for file in * ; do echo "---$file---" ; cat $file ; done
---bounce---
Feb 05 09:17:47 2002 (1663) Test: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - first
---error---
---post---
Feb 05 09:17:47 2002 (1663) post to test from mailman-owner@pulvinar,
size=1280, 1 failures
---smtp---
Feb 05 09:17:47 2002 (1663) All recipients refused: (550, '5.0.0 Access
denied', 'test-admin@pulvinar')
Feb 05 09:17:47 2002 (1663) smtp for 1 recips, completed in 0.042
seconds

I'm guessing I don't have sendmail configured properly.

Donna

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[Mailman-Users] Re: [SM-USERS] Bug against Mozilla?

[Chris Hilts]

On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 09:36:23AM -0500, Konstantin Riabitsev wrote:
> Or, you can grab a fresh 0.9.8. ;)

Whoopsie.  My bad - I didn't realize 0.9.8 was out. Thanks Konstantin.
(Now I guess I should upgrade and see if they have an announcement list)

Chris





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[Mailman-Users] mailman and postfix on SuSE

[Nadeem Hasan]

Hi all,

I am trying to use mailman with postfix. I recompiled mailman as
described in /usr/share/doc/packages/mailman/README.SuSE by using:

--with-cgi-gid=$NOGROUPGID --with-mail-gid=$NOGROUPGID

$NOGROUPGID expands to "nogroup" (gid 65534). Now, I get the following
error from mailman wrapper when I try to test:

WANTED gid 65534, GOT gid 28.  (Reconfigure to take 28?)

Where gid 28 is "mdom". Did I miss anything here? What more do
I have to do to make it work so that I don't make postfix any less
secure?

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[Mailman-Users] Mailman as autoresponder

[Pieter Bothma]

Hi

Any documentation on how to use Mailman as autoresponder?

Thanks a mil.

Pieter

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[Mailman-Users] Hotmail

[Joe Mizzi]

All hotmail address do not recieve anything from my mailing 
list. All other domains work. Why is this?

Re: [Mailman-Users] email address datastore

[Dan Mick]

So you want to "rename a list".  That's not easy.  Barry posted
a procedure last August for doing this, in message ID
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; check out the archives
for that message, and see if it works for you.  If so, we could
perhaps add it to the Mailman FAQ.

It may be easier just to dump the subscriber list, create a new
list, and restore it.  You'll lose user options and archives
(at least without some extra manual work), but perhaps that's
acceptable.

The reason you can't just change it is that directories are named
based on the list name, among other reasons.

> Upon more investigating, I need to change the value of "_internal_name":
> 
> 
> root@corvette /home/mailman/bin> python -i withlist Jack_domainname.com
> Loading list: jack_domainname.com (unlocked)
> >>> print m.GetListEmail()
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> print m._internal_name
> jack_domainname.com
> 
> 
> However, the following seems to work, but doesn't save permanently:
> 
> ---
> root@corvette /home/mailman/bin> python -i withlist Jack_domainname.com
> Loading list: jack_domainname.com (unlocked)
> >>> m.Lock()
> >>> print m._internal_name
> jack_domainname.com
> >>> m._internal_name = "jack"
> >>> print m._internal_name
> jack
> >>> print m.GetListEmail()
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> m.Save()
> >>>
> Unlocking (but not saving) list: jack
> Finalizing
> ---
> 
>  The next time I run the withlist script, the old values are still there.
> 
> Anyone know how to get that value to save permanently?  I haven't touched
> python until today, so am limping along.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Ryan LeBlanc
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Dan Mick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 10:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] email address datastore
> 
> 
> > Hint: it's not in a "file" per se; that information is part of the
> > MailList object, which is stored in the marshal 'config.db' in
> > the list data directory.
> >
> > But surely you can change this with web commands.  Figure out
> > what you want to change, and there's certainly going to be
> > a web admin interface to change it (in 90% of cases).
> >
> > > I am continuing my work on getting mailman working, and need to figure
> out
> > > where some data is stored.  For example:
> > >
> > > When I run the following on list Jack_domainname.com:
> > >
> > > 
> > > root@porsche /home/mailman/bin> python -i withlist Jack_domainname.com
> > > Loading list: jack_analoghost.com (unlocked)
> > > >>> print m.GetListEmail()
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >>>
> > > Finalizing
> > >
> > > -
> > >
> > > What file is it pulling that information from?  I can't seem to find it
> with
> > > grep in the mailman home dir.  Once I do find it, I need to change it
> ;o)
> > >
> > > Thanks for you help
> > >
> > > Ryan LeBlanc
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
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> >
> >
> >
> 
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[Mailman-Users] on behalf of

[Tom Warfield]

How do I get mailman just to put the persons email address instead of
saying [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Sender Name
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

I just want it to state only [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the from field.

Thanks!
Tom 


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[Mailman-Users] .signature to posts

[Clark Cooper]

Is there a way in Mailman to append text to 
each posts as done with a .signature file?
 
Thank you,
Clark Cooper

[Mailman-Users] mailman and postfix

[Nadeem Hasan]

Hi all,

I am trying to use mailman with postfix. I recompiled mailman as
described in /usr/share/doc/packages/mailman/README.SuSE by using:

--with-cgi-gid=$NOGROUPGID --with-mail-gid=$NOGROUPGID

$NOGROUPGID expands to "nogroup" (gid 65534). Now, I get the following
error from mailman wrapper when I try to test:

WANTED gid 65534, GOT gid 28.  (Reconfigure to take 28?)

Where gid 28 is "mdom". Did I miss anything here? What more do
I have to do to make it work so that I don't make postfix any less
secure?

Cheers,
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RE: [Mailman-Users] Point directly to listinfo

[Lafleur Maurice]

Title: RE: [Mailman-Users] Point directly to listinfo





Thanks for the suggestion, but I am  not sure of the exact meaning of your solution.


Here's what Ii understand:


I checked my /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf file and yes it says:


LoadModule rewrite_module modules/mod_rewrite.so


in the file.


Then I copied the lines you suggest in that file (I placed them right after the ScriptAlias lines)
I restarted the httpd daemon (killall -HUP httpd) and accessed my site. Same page as before. Am I missing a step?


Thanks


MGL


> -Original Message-
> From: Richard Barrett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: February 6, 2002 12:33 PM
> To: Lafleur Maurice; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Point directly to listinfo
> 
> 
> At 11:45 06/02/2002 -0500, Lafleur Maurice wrote:
> 
> >The list server I am setting up is only used for lists. I 
> want the default 
> >page from apache to be my.server.org/mailman/listinfo 
> directly. I tried to 
> >make a symlink between /var/www/html/index.html and 
> >/home/mailmna/cgi-bin/listinfo :
> >
> >ln -s /home/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo /var/www/html/index.html
> 
> This will not work as you are trying to link a static page to 
> a cgi script. 
> The link is fine but Apache cannot interpret this as you want.
> 
> Asdsuming you have mod_rewrite installed, the following 
> Apache re-write 
> rules will work to "transparently" redirect the URI '/' and 
> '/index.html' 
> to the cgi-script
> 
> RewriteRule ^/$ /mailman/listinfo [PT]
> RewriteRule ^/index.html$ /mailman/listinfo [PT]
> 
> Whether you will get any knock-on problems with the browser 
> interpreting 
> relative links on the pages returned incorrectly is another 
> issue. If that 
> happens your may want to use the rewrite rules to redirect / 
> and /index.html:
> 
> RewriteRule ^/$ /mailman/listinfo [R,L]
> RewriteRule ^/index.html$ /mailman/listinfo [R,L]
> 
> 
> >but I get a Mailman CGI error page when I browse my server.
> >
> >If I access 
> >http://my.server.org/m
ailman/listinfo 
>directly it works fine.
>
>I know it is something real simple and obvious but I can't seem to think 
>strait today.
>
>Thanks
>
>MGL
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[Mailman-Users] customizing HTML in archive and admin interface

[Robert Smith]

Does anyone know of a way to customize the archive and administrative 
interfaces for a particular list?  I've figured out everything else, 
and even had the archives customized somewhat, but when I ran arch to 
make sure they wouldn't be overwritten they were...of 
course...overwritten.

Thanks for the help that anybody can provide on this!

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Web page design

[Chuq Von Rospach]

On 2/6/02 7:56 AM, "Margaret Levine Young" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Here's my first cut at a redesign:
> 
>   http://www.uua.org/mailman/listinfo/uua-list-owners-discuss

Not at all bad. You might also look at
 to see what I've done. A
number of us have hacked the listinfo pages, and I've sent my changes back
to Barry as well...


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Point directly to listinfo

[Richard Barrett]

At 11:45 06/02/2002 -0500, Lafleur Maurice wrote:

>The list server I am setting up is only used for lists. I want the default 
>page from apache to be my.server.org/mailman/listinfo directly. I tried to 
>make a symlink between /var/www/html/index.html and 
>/home/mailmna/cgi-bin/listinfo :
>
>ln -s /home/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo /var/www/html/index.html

This will not work as you are trying to link a static page to a cgi script. 
The link is fine but Apache cannot interpret this as you want.

Asdsuming you have mod_rewrite installed, the following Apache re-write 
rules will work to "transparently" redirect the URI '/' and '/index.html' 
to the cgi-script

RewriteRule ^/$ /mailman/listinfo [PT]
RewriteRule ^/index.html$ /mailman/listinfo [PT]

Whether you will get any knock-on problems with the browser interpreting 
relative links on the pages returned incorrectly is another issue. If that 
happens your may want to use the rewrite rules to redirect / and /index.html:

RewriteRule ^/$ /mailman/listinfo [R,L]
RewriteRule ^/index.html$ /mailman/listinfo [R,L]


>but I get a Mailman CGI error page when I browse my server.
>
>If I access 
>http://my.server.org/mailman/listinfo 
>directly it works fine.
>
>I know it is something real simple and obvious but I can't seem to think 
>strait today.
>
>Thanks
>
>MGL
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Re: [Mailman-Users] All recipients refused: (501, '5.0.0 Invalid domain name')

[Caleb Epstein]

On Wed, Feb 06, 2002 at 12:07:58PM -0500, Jon Carnes wrote:

> If this isn't in the FAQ, it is certainly discussed widely in the
> archives...
> 
> >> I am a bit new to RH 7.2 I usually install 6.2. Is there some sort of
> >> a new twist to make sendmail work under RH 7.2 ?
> >
> > Yes, read the release notes.  RH7.x has sendmail default to only
> > listen on 127.0.0.1 (localhost), and refuse any other connection.
> > You need to reconfigure your sendmail.cf to allow for external
> > connections.
> 
> Good Luck

FWIW, sendmail is an exceedingly poor MTA when it comes to
Mailman.  The only way to get it to have reasonable throughput
seems to be to put it in DeliveryMode=defer, which makes it
hard to get posts out the door quickly.  They will get held up
until the next queue run, and that can take a long time if
there are DNS resolution problems or connection delays.
Putting sendmail into defer mode seems to be the only way to
stop it doing DNS resolution on every "RCPT TO:"
that it gets.

I HIGHLY recommend using any other MTA besides sendmail.  Exim
is my MTA of choice, but I understand qmail and postfix are
also good.

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[Mailman-Users] Err: setting Admin-Password on one Mailmanlist

[Robert Einsle]

Hello all

I'va a Problem I don't understand. 

I'm using mailman 2.0.8 on my system. When i go with the side-Password
to one of my Lists, and i set the Admin-Password new, i cannot login
with this newly set password to the list. I can only connect via the
side-password-list. I've looked about the rights on 
/var/lib/mailman/lists/afu-kurs (afu-kurs is the name of the List with
the password-Prob), but i cannot see an difference to other Lists.
This Prob is only one of my Mailman-Lists.

Where can i look for my Prob

Thanks very lot.

Regards

Robert Einsle

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Re: [Mailman-Users] All recipients refused: (501, '5.0.0 Invalid domain name')

[Jon Carnes]

If this isn't in the FAQ, it is certainly discussed widely in the
archives...

>> I am a bit new to RH 7.2 I usually install 6.2. Is there some sort of
>> a new twist to make sendmail work under RH 7.2 ?
>
> Yes, read the release notes.  RH7.x has sendmail default to only
> listen on 127.0.0.1 (localhost), and refuse any other connection.
> You need to reconfigure your sendmail.cf to allow for external
> connections.

Good Luck
- Original Message -
From: "Simon, imagine media" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 10:43 AM
Subject: [Mailman-Users] All recipients refused: (501, '5.0.0 Invalid domain
name')


> No mail is being sent to any list members since moving to new server
(redhat
> 7.1). I am getting "All recipients refused: (501, '5.0.0 Invalid domain
> name')" in logs/smtp. I know this is some thing to do with sendmail/dns
> settings, but cannot set the Dj option in sendmail.cf as this is a virtual
> hosting server with hundreds of domains/emails. What other options /
configs
> should I test. All help appreciated as I am losing sleep!!
>
> Simon
>
>
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[Mailman-Users] Point directly to listinfo

[Lafleur Maurice]

Title: Point directly to listinfo





The list server I am setting up is only used for lists. I want the default page from apache to be my.server.org/mailman/listinfo directly. I tried to make a symlink between /var/www/html/index.html and /home/mailmna/cgi-bin/listinfo :

ln -s /home/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo /var/www/html/index.html


but I get a Mailman CGI error page when I browse my server.


If I access http://my.server.org/mailman/listinfo directly it works fine. 


I know it is something real simple and obvious but I can't seem to think strait today.


Thanks


MGL
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mail to list returned

[Homeport]

I found my own answer in the documentation: 

"Create a test list
Create a list named test. To do so, run the program $prefix/bin/newlist. 
You will be prompted for the name of the list, as well as the email 
address of the person running the list. Put your own email address as the 
list administrator's address. 
Running newlist will generate a list of aliases that must be added to the 
system. If you are running Sendmail, you may add the lines output directly 
to the file /etc/aliases. You may need to run the command newaliases (all 
as root). Now the mailing address for your list as well as its 
administrative addresses will be set up. If you are not running Sendmail, 
consult your MTA's documentation for information on adding aliases."

The list of aliases that is created is only displayed to the screen. How 
hard would it be to have the newlist command place a file with the alias 
information in the directory created under /var/mailman/lists?

Just a thought.

Thanks,

--Ray

Ray Trygstad
Editor, http://homeport.usnaweb.org/


On Tue, 5 Feb 2002, Homeport wrote:

> My mailman installation seems to be working fine but when I send mail to 
> the list I get this response:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Action: Failed; Status: 5.1.1 (bad destination mailbox 
>address)
> Remote MTA usnaweb.org: SMTP diagnostic: 550 5.1.1 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... User unknown
> 
> Do I have to establish an explicit user for each mailing list?
> If so, how do I pipe mail to Mailman?
> 
> If not, what am I doing wrong?
> 
> Thanks, 
> 
> --Ray
> 
> Ray Trygstad
> Editor, http://homeport.usnaweb.org/
> 
> 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Web page design

[Margaret Levine Young]

> You can modify the HTML template for the listinfo pages at
> http://yourserver/mailman/edithtml/listname

Yes, I know, and we're doing that, but I'm suggesting that in the next rev, 
the default pages should start out better.

> Take a look at http://mail.etree.org/mailman/listinfo/announce
> for an example of what the results might look like.  Not
> saying this is a design paragon, just an example of what you
> can do.

Here's my first cut at a redesign:

http://www.uua.org/mailman/listinfo/uua-list-owners-discuss


Margy Levine Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Coauthor of "The Internet For Dummies"  and "Poor
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[Mailman-Users] All recipients refused: (501, '5.0.0 Invalid domain name')

[Simon, imagine media]

No mail is being sent to any list members since moving to new server (redhat
7.1). I am getting "All recipients refused: (501, '5.0.0 Invalid domain
name')" in logs/smtp. I know this is some thing to do with sendmail/dns
settings, but cannot set the Dj option in sendmail.cf as this is a virtual
hosting server with hundreds of domains/emails. What other options / configs
should I test. All help appreciated as I am losing sleep!!

Simon


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Web page design

[Caleb Epstein]

On Wed, Feb 06, 2002 at 10:14:40AM -0500, Margaret Levine Young wrote:

> For example, the listinfo page (e.g.,
> ) doesn't
> have a heading "How to Unsubscribe," which is one of the two main
> reasons that people go there. Unsubscription info is there, but it's
> buried at the bottom of the page.

You can modify the HTML template for the listinfo pages at
http://yourserver/mailman/edithtml/listname

Take a look at http://mail.etree.org/mailman/listinfo/announce
for an example of what the results might look like.  Not
saying this is a design paragon, just an example of what you
can do.

I do agree, though, that "UNSUBSCRIBE HERE!" should be
available someplace obvious.  It is far and away the biggest
source of admin requests.  People are often not
willing (capable?) of reading an entire web page to figure it
out for themselves, so they end up emailing the admins.
Making it prominent on the page is a big help on cutting down
on useless requests.

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[Mailman-Users] Web page design

[Margaret Levine Young]

We just moved abotu 150 lists to Mailman, and overall we're loving it (see 
www.uua.org/mailman/listinfo for the lists). However, our subscribers are 
consistently confused by the web pages and messages that Mailman sends. For 
the next version, would you be open to a redesign of the default pages that 
subscribers see? I know we can change them, but I think that Mailman should 
ship with clearer default pages.

For example, the listinfo page (e.g., 
) doesn't have a 
heading "How to Unsubscribe," which is one of the two main reasons that 
people go there. Unsubscription info is there, but it's buried at the 
bottom of the page.

Margy Levine Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Coauthor of "The Internet For Dummies"  and "Poor
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Monthly password reminder is always sent twice?

[Jon Carnes]

Check the cron entry for the password reminder:

  su mailman
  crontab -e

#
# 5 AM on the first of each month, mail out password reminders.
0 5 1 * * /usr/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/mailpasswds
#

Check for more than one entry that mails out the passwords, or a cron timing
value to active it twice in the same month.  The above cronjob will run at
"0" minutes past the "5"th hour on the "1"st day of the month, for every
month, no matter what day of the week it is (Sun, Mon, ... Sat).  It will
run Python loading the script: /home/mailman/cron/mailpasswds.

Jon Carnes
- Original Message -
From: "Dean Waldow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 1:59 AM
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Monthly password reminder is always sent twice?


> Hi,
>
> Sorry if this is a simple one but all of my email lists seem to be
> sending out the monthly reminder twice to each user.  Is there a simple
> way to understand why this is happening and how to fix it?
>
> Thanks for any suggestions!
>
> Dean Waldow
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> Department of Chemistry   (253) 536-5055 (FAX)
> Pacific Lutheran University   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> 
> CIRRUS  -- Chem 
> 
>
>
>
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[Mailman-Users] Announce only list?

[Molly Cliborne]

Hello out there--  I'm new to Mailman and would like to know if it's
possible to create read-only announcement type list using this software.  If
there is an FAQ, I apologize but I could not find it.  Would appreciate any
assistance out there.  Best wishes--

Molly

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Re: [Mailman-Users] email address datastore

[Ryan LeBlanc]

Upon more investigating, I need to change the value of "_internal_name":


root@corvette /home/mailman/bin> python -i withlist Jack_domainname.com
Loading list: jack_domainname.com (unlocked)
>>> print m.GetListEmail()
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> print m._internal_name
jack_domainname.com


However, the following seems to work, but doesn't save permanently:

---
root@corvette /home/mailman/bin> python -i withlist Jack_domainname.com
Loading list: jack_domainname.com (unlocked)
>>> m.Lock()
>>> print m._internal_name
jack_domainname.com
>>> m._internal_name = "jack"
>>> print m._internal_name
jack
>>> print m.GetListEmail()
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> m.Save()
>>>
Unlocking (but not saving) list: jack
Finalizing
---

 The next time I run the withlist script, the old values are still there.

Anyone know how to get that value to save permanently?  I haven't touched
python until today, so am limping along.

Thanks!

Ryan LeBlanc
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

- Original Message -
From: "Dan Mick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 10:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] email address datastore


> Hint: it's not in a "file" per se; that information is part of the
> MailList object, which is stored in the marshal 'config.db' in
> the list data directory.
>
> But surely you can change this with web commands.  Figure out
> what you want to change, and there's certainly going to be
> a web admin interface to change it (in 90% of cases).
>
> > I am continuing my work on getting mailman working, and need to figure
out
> > where some data is stored.  For example:
> >
> > When I run the following on list Jack_domainname.com:
> >
> > 
> > root@porsche /home/mailman/bin> python -i withlist Jack_domainname.com
> > Loading list: jack_analoghost.com (unlocked)
> > >>> print m.GetListEmail()
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >>>
> > Finalizing
> >
> > -
> >
> > What file is it pulling that information from?  I can't seem to find it
with
> > grep in the mailman home dir.  Once I do find it, I need to change it
;o)
> >
> > Thanks for you help
> >
> > Ryan LeBlanc
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
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