Re: [Mailman-Users] AOL SMTP_MAX_RCPTS
On Tue, 2002-02-12 at 00:01, Rene Churchill wrote: I'm getting what I think is an odd response from AOL. My client is sending a large (too bloody large) HTML email newsletter out. It runs 40-50k each week. If I attempt to set SMTP_MAX_RCPTS to anything higher than one, AOL appears to discard the newsletter. The performance stinks with SMTP_MAX_RCPTS set that low. Has anybody else run into this problem? Try talking to the AOL folks and see if they have a spamtrap whitelist they can add you to. Alternatively, I'd tackle this by modding the MTA configuration - in exim use the max_rcpts option on the smtp transport and set it down to one for AOL (not sure if its an expandable option, if not you need to peel AOL off in a different router and pass them to their own special smtp transport). It still sucks your bandwidth but the list split is done elsewhere. Nigel. -- [ Nigel Metheringham [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [ Phone: +44 1423 85 Fax +44 1423 858866 ] [ - Comments in this message are my own and not ITO opinion/policy - ] -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] [Beginner] Moving a mailing list to another machine
[Warning: I begin with Mailman but I've read the documentation.] I'm trying to move many lists from one machine to another. Is it sufficient to move /var/lib/mailman/lists and /var/lib/mailman/archives and the aliases file or are there other things I should take care of? I noticed in the Site Administrator Documentation the script move_file but without explanations of the way to use it. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] value of Sender: field for outgoing member postings
Hi, I would like to set the Sender field for outgoing messages to Sender: owner-listname@some.domain instead of Sender: listname[EMAIL PROTECTED] How can this be accomplished ? What kind of problems will I have to face (if any) ? Heiko BTW: Mailman version 2.0.8 -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] DOS security issue.
This is probably the wrong place to raise this, sorry, but I wonder if anybody else has had the same trouble we've just had. We're running 2.0.8 with exim and recently a user sent a message with the following sort of To: header.. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Notice the trailing '' character. Mailman processed this message just fine and sent it out to several hundred subscribers. A small group of these messages failed with 550 result codes from the remote SMTP servers, mostly from one fairly large ISP. Putting aside the issue of whether or not this is a valid reason for returning a 550 result code, a malicious user could (a) use this technique to exclude users from a discussion or (b) bump these users from the list by sending a flurry of messages that result in their subscriptions being disabled or revoked. Clearly mailman cannot parse and validate all message headers, but those that it examines (such as To:) should probably be rejected if they contain syntax errors. What do other list server owners think? -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Install Question
On Tue, Jan 08, 2002 at 12:45:30AM -0600, Tim Legg wrote: FreeBSD 4.4, Postfix I am preparing to install mailman-2.0.8 on my system according to my INSTALL document. In step 1, I was told to create user and group mailman by modifying the /etc/passwd and /etc/group files. Is it good enough to create these accounts/groups by placing them alone on a single line, or should I fill in the other atributes? In FreeBSD, /etc/passwd and /etc/group have the fields delimited by colons. I am not entirely clear on what each of these fields represent, but should I know what to enter for the shell path, home dir path, real name, et cetera? What's wrong with using standard tools like useradd and groupadd? Should be available on FreeBSD too, I guess? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.belnet.be -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] Search the archives?
Are the Mailman generated archives searchable? I've looked through the list.org site and don't see any reference, and the Mailman list I'm on doesn't have that feature. Can it be added? Second, the list I'd like to move to Mailman is a group at Yahoo, at least half the list uses the web interface to send and receive messages to the list, is there a webmail interface for Mailman? Thanks from a Mailman newbie, Damon Linkous, MCIWD Memphis Tennessee http://www.TailoredWebDesign.com Web Design That Fits -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] auto-rejecting non-subscriber posts
[[This is so irritating (after a while) that I can't believe it's not a more popular gripe. Feel free to rub my nose in the obvious solution.]] I help run a very low volume mailing list. Most days, there are no postings. Sometimes weeks can go by with no postings. Every day, though, we get lots of spam. On weekends, it's at least a couple dozen a day. All of this spam gets trapped by the members only list option. So far, so good. It's sort of tedious to go through the web interface to clear out 50-100 spams. Click, scroll, click, scroll, ... fall asleep, click, scroll, I wish one of these things were available: 1. A configuration setting that would automatically reject non-member postings, just as if I had gone through the web interface and selected reject for each message. (We don't want to automatically discard non-member posts because we do get the occasional legit non-member posting. That's the same reason we don't run a spam filter that silently discards traffic.) -or- 2. A configuration setting that would automatically mark non-member postings as reject instead of defer in the web interface. That way, we'd just have to do one submit to clear out the crap and then could easily see if there was something interesting in the queue. So, is there anything like either of those in some place I haven't looked? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] (WJCarpenter)PGP 0x91865119 38 95 1B 69 C9 C6 3D 2573 46 32 04 69 D6 ED F3 -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] wrapper seems to not be sgid'ing..
Title: wrapper seems to not be sgid'ing.. Am trying to run mailman v2.0.8 with postfix on SuSE v7.2. Am getting the error at the bottom of the page. I've rebuilt, installed and configured mailman. I built it using the correct gid values for mail and cgi. I ran the check_perms and when it's set to what it ideally wants, wrapper is mail.mail and sgid. Even if I chgrp postfix wrapper and leave it sgid, I get the same error. It's like the sgid is failing. I can use some help... Everything associated with mailman seems to be ready, just can't mail to it. All users that aren't mailing-list related can send and receive mail just fine. This seems to be specific to wrapper not sgid'ing.. Gid name Comment == 51 postfix mail runs as this 65534 nogroup web runs as this Feb 12 11:21:34 thedr postfix/local[5508]: 254ED15E733: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], relay=local, delay=0, status=bounced (Command died with status 2: /home/mailman/mail/wrapper post testing. Command output: Failure to exec script. WANTED gid 51, GOT gid 65534. (Reconfigure to take 65534?) )
Re: [Mailman-Users] goodbye_msg problem?
On 26 Shevat 5762, Charles Sebold wrote: When one of our lists has the following as goodbye_msg, it breaks the unsubscribe message. Some of the headers are inserted _after_ the goodbye message. Any ideas? Running Debian's Mailman 2.0.8 from woody. No responses from the list, but I found a workaround for now, until I learn enough Python to prepare a patch. (Thank heaven for free software! Without the source I wouldn't have had any idea where to start.) For goodbye messages to work, start the goodbye message with two blank lines. The web interface appears to drop one of them, and you are left with one. Then goodbye messages will work. I guess the algorithm that determines where to put the headers in the final outgoing email gets confused, since wrapping the goodbye_msg removes the starting CR? Maybe I'm confused but I think I'm on the right track. -- Charles Sebold 30th of Shevat, 5762 LCMS - Office of Information Systemshttp://unix.ois.org/ *** Opinions expressed herein are not necessarily *** *** those of the Lutheran Church - Missouri Synod *** -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] wrapper seems to not be sgid'ing..
On Tue, 12 Feb 2002, Mark Ash wrote: Am trying to run mailman v2.0.8 with postfix on SuSE v7.2. Am getting the error at the bottom of the page. I've rebuilt, installed and configured mailman. I built it using the correct gid values for mail and cgi. I ran the check_perms and when it's set to what it ideally wants, wrapper is mail.mail and sgid. Even if I chgrp postfix wrapper and leave it sgid, I get the same error. It's like the sgid is failing. I can use some help... Everything associated with mailman seems to be ready, just can't mail to it. All users that aren't mailing-list related can send and receive mail just fine. This seems to be specific to wrapper not sgid'ing.. Try to upgrade to a newer package of mailman for SuSE Linux. In /etc/mailman.cgi-group and /etc/mailman.mail-group specify the UIDs that are used by the appropriate subsystem: If you use Sendmail: /etc/mailman.mail-group: 2 If Postfix: /etc/mailman.mail-group: 65534 Heiko -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] goodbye_msg problem?
On Tue, 12 Feb 2002, Charles Sebold wrote: On 26 Shevat 5762, Charles Sebold wrote: When one of our lists has the following as goodbye_msg, it breaks the unsubscribe message. Some of the headers are inserted _after_ the goodbye message. Any ideas? Running Debian's Mailman 2.0.8 from woody. No responses from the list, but I found a workaround for now, until I learn enough Python to prepare a patch. (Thank heaven for free software! Without the source I wouldn't have had any idea where to start.) For goodbye messages to work, start the goodbye message with two blank lines. The web interface appears to drop one of them, and you are left with one. Then goodbye messages will work. I guess the algorithm that determines where to put the headers in the final outgoing email gets confused, since wrapping the goodbye_msg removes the starting CR? Maybe I'm confused but I think I'm on the right track. Sound to me as there is a concurrency between buffered and unbuffered output, i.e. on faster systems two blank linkes may not be sufficient. Maybe I'm wrong ... Heiko -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Search the archives?
On Tue, 12 Feb 2002, Damon Linkous wrote: Are the Mailman generated archives searchable? I've looked through the list.org site and don't see any reference, and the Mailman list I'm on doesn't have that feature. Can it be added? Second, the list I'd like to move to Mailman is a group at Yahoo, at least half the list uses the web interface to send and receive messages to the list, is there a webmail interface for Mailman? Thanks from a Mailman newbie, What about using MHonArc http://www.oac.uci.edu/indiv/ehood/mhonarc.html#whatis ? Heiko -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Search the archives?
Heiko Rommel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What about using MHonArc http://www.oac.uci.edu/indiv/ehood/mhonarc.html#whatis MHonArc just archives. Wilma wraps MHonArc and Glimpse to get you search-able archives: http://www.hpc.uh.edu/majordomo/#wilma I have set up a large archive that is indexed and search-able by wilma. It's OK, but the search syntax required by glimpse isn't for everyone, and I found that after about the 400MB mark, glimpse would corrupt its own indices when doing nightly incremental updates. I'm going to try the pipermail-htdig integration patches when we switch the list to mailman, soon. Morgan -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] Mailman
I've just had a number of sites migrated to a new server using the Mailman list software. The new software has a lot of nice features, but I'd like a more basic list program. I just need for people to be able to subscribe and unsubscribe. I'd like the list administrator to be the ONLY one to be able to email the list, reaching all the list subscribers and the admin. being the only one who can read the list and make changes to subscribers. Subscribers areNOT allowed to postto the list. This would now be a discussion list or even a forum,with the admin. being able to control the postings. This is too much. I need a simple list program on this new server. Can you help? Do you have stripped-down version? Can I tweak the current version of Mailman (2.0.8)on this server? Thank you. Eric-iMountain Inc.www.iMountainDesign.com970-870-6625
[Mailman-Users] Error decoding authorization cookie
Every time I try to admin the site I receive "Error decoding authorization cookie" Any suggestions on how to fix this. Martin Gnyp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Search the archives?
On Tue, 12 Feb 2002, Morgan Fletcher wrote: Heiko Rommel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What about using MHonArc http://www.oac.uci.edu/indiv/ehood/mhonarc.html#whatis MHonArc just archives. Wilma wraps MHonArc and Glimpse to get you search-able archives: http://www.hpc.uh.edu/majordomo/#wilma I have set up a large archive that is indexed and search-able by wilma. It's OK, but the search syntax required by glimpse isn't for everyone, and I found that after about the 400MB mark, glimpse would corrupt its own indices when doing nightly incremental updates. I built a searchable archive using Windows 2000, Index Server, and Windows SMTP Server. I can share the code for this if anyone is interested... The index is automatically updated as new messages are found, so there is no nightly run of anything. Messages are generally searchable within a minute of having been posted to the list. It isn't Mailman specific, and I'm hosting archives for lists that use other products as well as my Mailman lists. To the mailing list system the archiver simply looks like another subscriber. http://search.bikelist.org is the user interface for it. My current archive has 341,509 messages (1.5gb) and the catalog file is 340megs. alex -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] Mailman and qmail and vpopmail, oh my..
Fast question: Can I configure mailman to recognize two mail UIDs? Long version: I'm running qmail and vpopmail. vpopmail is a virtual domain system that works with qmail. Both programs have their own UIDs: Qmail uses 1012, vpopmail uses 89. Both interact with Mailman. Obviously this causes a problem: Feb 12 15:41:42 server1 Mailman mail-wrapper: Failure to exec script. WANTED gid 89, GOT gid 1012. (Reconfigure to take 1012?) I'm not yet up to speed enough with Python to go mucking around in the scripts.. are there any other vpopmail users running Mailman who have solved this problem? Thanks, Robbie -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] changing to plain text
I hope you can help. we're using mailman for two lists for greyhound rescue and adoption. we would like to have the lists only accept plain text but we can't seem to make it work that way. there is an option to check for plain text in the membership options and everyone has that checked - we're still getting html formatted messages which make the digests look terrible. Is there a way to strip the html formatting before it reaches the list? I can't seem to find that option in the faq. tech support at my isp don't have a clue. So, if I go to the FAQ and search for HTML, I get a bunch of hits; the third one is 1.8 How do I turn off HTML messages/attachments? which is surely your man. Upshot: only with external programs in MM 2.0.x. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] changing to plain text
I hope you can help. we're using mailman for two lists for greyhound rescue and adoption. we would like to have the lists only accept plain text but we can't seem to make it work that way. there is an option to check for plain text in the membership options and everyone has that checked - we're still getting html formatted messages which make the digests look terrible. Is there a way to strip the html formatting before it reaches the list? I can't seem to find that option in the faq. tech support at my isp don't have a clue. thanks for any help you can give us. cathy munro -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Feature requests
It would be nice to search the membership list for a text string, to find a particular bouncing member. 1) find_member does that from the command line 2) 2.1 has a feature like that on the web page (regexp, in fact) It would be nice to be able to download the mailing list. You mean the subscriber roster? There's list_members (but not through the web interface AFAIK). -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] Feature requests
It would be nice to search the membership list for a text string, to find a particular bouncing member. It would be nice to be able to download the mailing list. -- Zolera Systems, http://www.zolera.com Information Integrity, XML Security -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] Mailman Newbie Questions
I'm new to Mailman and I couldn't find answers to these questions easily in the documentation: (1) I'm concerned about mailstorms. What storm prevention mechanisms are in place? I can see that if we checked not metoo for every subscriber, that would prevent mailstorms. I have the sense, though, that people like getting copies of what they post so they can be sure it was posted. Is there something else that addresses the mailstorm issue? 2) One of the lists I've been asked to set up is more of a newsletter than a list. They want to be able to send messages to subscribers, but don't want them to be able to talk back (other than to quit the list). Will mailman let us do that? Is there some other place I should be looking for answers to these type of questions? Steve -- Steve Gray Legal Services Technology Network Ann Arbor, Michigan 734.998.6100 x.25 http://www.lstech.org -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Enforcing ASCII in a list
Content-Type: .*multipart Content-Type: .*mixed Content-Type: .*rich I want to look at your solution, but in the meantime, what could be placed in the Hold posts with area to stop HTML and attachments?? -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] moderated list and administrator
At 11:11 11.02.02 +0100, Solignani Tiziano wrote: How come in moderated list posts from administrator needs approval from the administrator itself? Do you know if there is a workaround for this? I have a list which I would like to use for announcement only, so that I set it to moderated (each post requires approval), but every time I post something I have to get on line and to approve my own post... Is there a wat to define an email address which never requires approval? Or to let mailman recognize the administrator's address? Thank you for your attention. But you accept, that EVERYONE could then fake your adress and send e-mail to that list? Reg. Matthias Jänichen (IT-Security Engineer, MSc) --- F-Secure Certified Support Center (Data Fellows) Certified Anti-Virus Center Mimesweeper Certified Distributor ** perComp-Verlag GmbH Tel.: +49/40/696 28 16-0 Holzmuehlenstr. 84 Fax:+49/40/696 28 16-9 D-22041 Hamburg E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WEB:www.percomp.de F-SECURE-Support: [EMAIL PROTECTED] +49/40/696 28 16-16 --- CeBIT 2002 13.-20. Mar. 2002 Halle 11/F37 -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] new list now shown in admin list
Dear all, I have created a new mailing list but it is not listed in the admin interface. But typing in the mailing lists directory name in the URL works fine. So the list exists, we are even using it for two weeks now, but it simply doesn´t show up in the admin interface. Help would be appriciated. Greetinx, Thomas We are using Mailman on 2.0.5 on RedHat 6.2 61 rue de Trèves 1040 Brussels Belgium Tel: 0032 2 790 7553 Fax: 0032 2 790 7585 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.eun.org - -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] Minor Mailman problem
I received the monthly reminder from mailman earlier this month regarding the two mailing lists that I administer. I noted an error in the message, as follows: If you have questions, problems, comments, etc, send them to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks! ^ There's no problem with the domain name anywhere else. Messages get through to the lists and the admin stuff is dealt with correctly. I'm running 2.0.8-1 on RedHat Linux 7.2/kernel 2.4.9. Any help in pinpointing the problem will be appreciated...thanks! -- Bob -- Bob Sully - Simi Valley, California, USA http://www.malibyte.net The weather is here - wish you were beautiful. - J. Buffett -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Error decoding authorization cookie
That's a browser specific problem. What browser are you using? Also, I have seen this problem with some IE installs where the standard security is properly set (note, it is NOT set too high). To get IE to work in this circumstance you will have to mark the site as a trusted site in your browser. Jon Carnes - Original Message - From: Martin To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 11:34 AM Subject: [Mailman-Users] Error decoding authorization cookie Every time I try to admin the site I receive "Error decoding authorization cookie" Any suggestions on how to fix this. Martin Gnyp
Re: [Mailman-Users] auto-rejecting non-subscriber posts
Interesting. That wouldn't be too hard to write up... For my purposes I just toss anything that gets held and I like that setup, but I can see your point. Still the real solution here is to stop spam from entering your site period. You should look at using the RBL and a few other anti-spaming tools. These are all part of your MTA. And really that is where anti-spam measure really should be taken... Jon Carnes (just one man's opinion...) - Original Message - From: WJCarpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 1:23 PM Subject: [Mailman-Users] auto-rejecting non-subscriber posts [[This is so irritating (after a while) that I can't believe it's not a more popular gripe. Feel free to rub my nose in the obvious solution.]] I help run a very low volume mailing list. Most days, there are no postings. Sometimes weeks can go by with no postings. Every day, though, we get lots of spam. On weekends, it's at least a couple dozen a day. All of this spam gets trapped by the members only list option. So far, so good. It's sort of tedious to go through the web interface to clear out 50-100 spams. Click, scroll, click, scroll, ... fall asleep, click, scroll, I wish one of these things were available: 1. A configuration setting that would automatically reject non-member postings, just as if I had gone through the web interface and selected reject for each message. (We don't want to automatically discard non-member posts because we do get the occasional legit non-member posting. That's the same reason we don't run a spam filter that silently discards traffic.) -or- 2. A configuration setting that would automatically mark non-member postings as reject instead of defer in the web interface. That way, we'd just have to do one submit to clear out the crap and then could easily see if there was something interesting in the queue. So, is there anything like either of those in some place I haven't looked? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] (WJCarpenter)PGP 0x91865119 38 95 1B 69 C9 C6 3D 2573 46 32 04 69 D6 ED F3 -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] admin features via email vs web
Can an admin do mailman functions via email, like approve emails on a moderated list, instead of using the web? Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY Netlyncs -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
