[Mailman-Users] Converting majordomo archives to pipermail

2002-02-15 Thread Morgan Fletcher

I've got 360MB of ASCII majordomo archives, all files in the form
listname.MM. I'd like to grandfather them into the pipermail archives
our list will be creating, once it's run by mailman.

How do the monthly text archives from majordomo correspond to the files
down in archives/private?

I tried concatenating the first six months of majordomo archives into
archives/private/listname.mbox/listname.mbox, then running 'bin/arch
listname'. It looked like it worked, but it's slow. I had to iterate the
process a couple times, because some old messages were misinterpreted as
very recent. (February 2002, instead of late 1996)

Is the mbox file just one giant text file that keeps growing?

Did I do it the right way? Is there any documentation for the version of
pipermail that comes with mailman?

Morgan

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman Setup

2002-02-15 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer

On Fri, Feb 15, 2002 at 07:21:38AM +1100,
 Greg Rees [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote 
 a message of 14 lines which said:

 OK via the web page but no confirmation email is sent and they are not added
 to the list. The only email received by the user is an error message.

Forwarding it on the list would have been a good idea...
  
 Any ideas on what I may have not carried out during the installation.

Check $MAILMAN/logs/error.

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[Mailman-Users] privacy/posters

2002-02-15 Thread Christian Westgaard

Why is privacy/posters not a (regexps) like privacy/acceptable_aliases?

 This would enable me to set all from my domain as posters even
 though they are not members.

 all-departments
  sub-department-1 (with some members)
  sub-department-2 (with some members)
  sub-department-3 (with some members)

 all-departments is privacy/member_posting_only
 I don't want to list all members of sub1, 2 and 3 as posters to all-dep...


When on list is (child) member of another list, you get multiple footers, any idea?

Also where did umbrella settings go?

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[Mailman-Users] subscribers counter

2002-02-15 Thread Daniel Zeiss

Hello,

I would like to put a counter on a website with how many people are actually 
subscribed to one mailinglist using mailman.

How is that possible?

bye
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[Mailman-Users] use mailman db with php?

2002-02-15 Thread Daniel Zeiss

Hi,

is it possible to manipulate a mailman mailing list with php scripts, where I 
have no root access to the machine? (using my ISP)

The trouble is, that I want to make my own subscription form which is parsed 
by a php script for storing data in a database and afterwards subscribing to 
the mailman list.

bye
Daniel

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[Mailman-Users] no HTML mail

2002-02-15 Thread Daniel Zeiss

Hello

is it somehow possible to tell mailman to stop or convert HTML mails to plain 
text mails?

If not, how could I do it anyway? (other programs, procmail??)

bye 
Daniel

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Re: [Mailman-Users] subscribers counter

2002-02-15 Thread Don Marti

begin Daniel Zeiss quotation of Fri, Feb 15, 2002 at 02:55:49PM +0100:

 I would like to put a counter on a website with how many people are actually 
 subscribed to one mailinglist using mailman.

You can do:

~mailman/bin/list_members $LISTNAME  $WEBDIR/subscriber-count.txt

in your crontab, and include the subscriber-count.txt file in your
page with a server-side include.  (substute your list name and web
site directory for $LISTNAME and $WEBDIR)

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Re: [Mailman-Users] subscribers counter

2002-02-15 Thread Daniel Zeiss

Hi,

 You can do:
 ~mailman/bin/list_members $LISTNAME  $WEBDIR/subscriber-count.txt
 in your crontab, and include the subscriber-count.txt file in your

No, that wont work.

IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: 
'/usr/local/mailman/lists/medizin/config.db'

because I am not root at the machine. (ISP)

Also this would give me the actual list of subscribers, I just wont the 
number, something like:

1092 people subscribed 

where 1092 is the actual number of subscribers.

bye
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[Mailman-Users] localization

2002-02-15 Thread Daniel Zeiss

Hi,

is it possible to localize each list?
That means making one list spanish, the other english ...
without only editing HTML code, but also have welcome message etc in this 
language?

bye
Daniel

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Re: [Mailman-Users] subscribers counter

2002-02-15 Thread Matthew Thompson

On Friday, February 15, 2002, at 02:54 PM, Daniel Zeiss wrote:

 Hi,

 You can do:
 ~mailman/bin/list_members $LISTNAME  $WEBDIR/subscriber-count.txt
 in your crontab, and include the subscriber-count.txt file in your

 No, that wont work.

 IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied:
 '/usr/local/mailman/lists/medizin/config.db'

Have you considered a little php script that runs under cron and reads in 
the number of lines in your members file. It could be written to output 
the number of lines to a small text file that could be read back in.

www.php.net has all the code snippets for reading files - it's quite easy.

M@t :o)

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Re: [Mailman-Users] subscribers counter

2002-02-15 Thread Daniel Zeiss

Hi,

 
  IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied:
  '/usr/local/mailman/lists/medizin/config.db'

 Have you considered a little php script that runs under cron and reads in
 the number of lines in your members file. It could be written to output
 the number of lines to a small text file that could be read back in.

Yes, I have, ..
...but I can not run the mailman programs because I have no root account. And 
it seems that my mailman password is not good enough to give it as parameter 
to the programs to open the db.
I just can edit my lists from the webinterface. So I was wondering if there 
is some sort of webfunction from mailman that I could include into my 
webpages.
The problem with cron is also, that I would have to run it every 10 minutes 
to have a more or less actual number but this drains ressources my ISP is 
perhaps not willing to give me. On the otherhand, if it is something which is 
just called when the webpages are visited it is less ressources. (based on a 
low traffic website)

bye
Daniel

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Re: [Mailman-Users] use mailman db with php?

2002-02-15 Thread Oliver Egginger

 is it possible to manipulate a mailman mailing list with php scripts, where
 I have no root access to the machine? (using my ISP)

Hopefully not ...



 The trouble is, that I want to make my own subscription form which is

Use mailmans mail-interface.


- oliver 

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Re: [Mailman-Users] subscribers counter

2002-02-15 Thread Nigel Metheringham

On Fri, 2002-02-15 at 15:03, Matthew Thompson wrote:
 Have you considered a little php script that runs under cron and reads in 
 the number of lines in your members file. It could be written to output 
 the number of lines to a small text file that could be read back in.

Nice idea, but Mailman has no members file or analog of it - everything
is in config.db (for Mailman 2.0.x - Mailman 2.1 is different).

Nigel.



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Re: [Mailman-Users] use mailman db with php?

2002-02-15 Thread Norbert Bollow

 is it possible to manipulate a mailman mailing list with php
 scripts, where I have no root access to the machine? (using my
 ISP)
 
 The trouble is, that I want to make my own subscription form which is parsed 
 by a php script for storing data in a database and afterwards subscribing to 
 the mailman list.

Your php script could make HTTP POSTs to the Mailman admin pages.

Greetings, Norbert.

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[Mailman-Users] Privacy Settings in the Administrative Interface

2002-02-15 Thread David Kleber

I've been running my first mail list with version 2.0.8 for about 8 months
and I'm having a hard time understanding the proper privacy settings.

Here's the way I need to have my list set up:

I only want to give a few people posting privileges to my list WITHOUT the
messages being held for approval.  I want the rest of the list subscribers
to be
able to post, but I DO want their posts to be held for approval.

Could someone please tell me what the proper combination of settings would
be in the General Posting Filter section under the Privacy Settings in the
Administrative Interface?

- Must posts be approved by an administrator? [yes or no]

- Restrict posting privilege to list members? [yes or no]

- And of course I understand that I will need to list the specific
e-mail addresses in the Addresses of members accepted for posting to this
list without implicit approval requirement field.

Thanks in advance for any help you might be able to provide.

-Dave Kleber, KB3FXI
www.PA-SitRep.com
http://pa-sitrep.com/mailman/listinfo/pa_pa-sitrep.com



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Re: [Mailman-Users] subscribers counter

2002-02-15 Thread Jon Carnes

On Friday 15 February 2002 08:55 am, Daniel Zeiss wrote:
 Hello,

 I would like to put a counter on a website with how many people are
 actually subscribed to one mailinglist using mailman.

 How is that possible?

 bye
   Daniel

Setup a cron job to dump out the member list and then count it and dump it to 
a file:
  ~mailman/bin/list_members list-name |wc -l  filename

The script can also easily build a web page with the information

Good Luck!

Jon Carnes

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[Mailman-Users] Posts require approval when this option is not set

2002-02-15 Thread Maurice Lafleur

Hi again,

Here's a difficulty I am facing with two of the 4 lists I set up under MM:

All posts going to the list are held for approval by an admin when this option is NOT 
activated in the setup of the lists. I checked my 
admin pages and compared the broken lists with the working ones and I see no 
difference. Any point as to where and what to look for?

Regards,

MGL


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[Mailman-Users] Failure in bin/arch

2002-02-15 Thread Morgan Fletcher

I have a 360MB listname.mbox file, which is concatenated from six years of
majordomo archives. I tried archiving the mbox using bin/arch (via the
built-in pipermail), and got this:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File bin/arch, line 129, in ?
main()
  File bin/arch, line 118, in main
archiver.processUnixMailbox(fp, Article)
  File /home/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/pipermail.py, line 526, in processUnixMa
ilbox
a = articleClass(m, self.sequence)
  File /home/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/HyperArch.py, line 207, in __init__
self.__super_init(message, sequence, keepHeaders)
  File /home/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/pipermail.py, line 175, in __init__
self._set_date(message)
  File /home/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/HyperArch.py, line 419, in _set_date
self.__super_set_date(message)
  File /home/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/pipermail.py, line 228, in _set_date
date = message.getdate_tz('Date')
  File /usr/pkg/lib/python2.0/rfc822.py, line 371, in getdate_tz
return parsedate_tz(data)
  File /usr/pkg/lib/python2.0/rfc822.py, line 828, in parsedate_tz
if data[0][-1] in (',', '.') or string.lower(data[0]) in _daynames:
IndexError: list index out of range

The sourceforge site is down right now, I'll report this when its up.

I'm running Mailman 2.0.8 on Python 2.0, NetBSD 1.5.1. I've applied these
patches:

  mailman-2.0.8-plaintext-0.16.patch
  indexing-2.0.6.patch
  htdig-2.0.8-0.1.patch

The mbox has some older messages for which pipermail apparently punts,
setting their date to February 2002. I will look into a work-around which
splits and then rebuilds the mbox with better date formatting. Not sure how
to go about that..

The list has been served by majordomo for six years, with the archives
parsed and displayed by mhonarc and searchable by glimpse via wilma. We're
switching to mailman, and I'd like to try pipermail+htdig.

Can pipermail be expected to parse such a large archive? The machine has
lots of CPU, RAM and disk space.

Any advice?

Morgan



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[Mailman-Users] Import Majordomo Archives

2002-02-15 Thread Maurice Lafleur

Hi everyone,

I have my MM installation almost all under control except for a quirk that I'll ask 
about later, but for now I need to know if there is a way to 
import old MJ archive files into the MM archives created and maintained by MM?

Thanks,

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[Mailman-Users] filtering with procmail

2002-02-15 Thread Dave Stern - Former Rocket Scientist

Anyone have any experience filtering with procmail with mailman2.0.8? The FAQ 
gives hints but seems to be incomplete.

Given a list called test, with entries in aliases as
test:|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper post test
test-admin:  |/home/mailman/mail/wrapper mailowner test
test-request:|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper mailcmd test
test-owner:  test-admin

the FAQ says to just modify test to be 
test:|/usr/local/bin/procmail -m MAILMAN=test /etc/procmailrc-mailman

What about the other entries?

does /etc/procmailrc-mailman need any special permissions?

TIA





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[Mailman-Users] Multiple host name problem

2002-02-15 Thread Michael Bray

I've just set up Mailman, and things look pretty good...  But I am
having a problem with different results being returned for different
host names that I want to use the same list configuration.   For
example, I want 'http://www.xyz.com/mailman/listinfo' and
'http://xyz.com/mailman/listinfo' to both go to the same list
information.  (I do have the correct settings in DNS to provide the IP
address for 'xyz.com', which is the same IP as for 'www.xyz.com'.)  When
my users go to the 'xyz.com' site, they see the lists correctly.  When
they go to the 'www.xyz.com' site, mailman says that there are no
publicly accessible lists on this server.
 
Is there a configuration setting I can use in one of the mailman files
to tell it that 'www.xyz.com' and 'xyz.com' should be treated as the
same site?  Alternatively, is there something in Apache configuration
that I can use to accomplish this?
 
Thanks for any help you can provide...
 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] messages stuck and not going out...

2002-02-15 Thread Bob Sully


Be careful!!  This is an invitation to some significant 
headaches.  A friend of mine found his mail server was being used 
as a relay by most of the People's Republic of China (literally 
about 10,000 messages per hour through his little Pentium-200 
mail server) until he shut this option OFF.

YMMV - Good luck - Bob


On Fri, 15 Feb 2002, aaron wrote:

 The solution to my problem was to make the following changes to sendmail:
 
 - turn on accept_unresolvable_domains.
 
 once I did this, mailman released all of the messages it has been holding
 for days...

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Multiple host name problem

2002-02-15 Thread Morgan Fletcher

Michael Bray [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 I am having a problem with different results being returned for different
 host names that I want to use the same list configuration.  For example,
 I want 'http://www.xyz.com/mailman/listinfo' and
 'http://xyz.com/mailman/listinfo' to both go to the same list
 information.  (I do have the correct settings in DNS to provide the IP
 address for 'xyz.com', which is the same IP as for 'www.xyz.com'.)  When
 my users go to the 'xyz.com' site, they see the lists correctly.  When
 they go to the 'www.xyz.com' site, mailman says that there are no
 publicly accessible lists on this server.

I had to make this change to my apache.conf, so that
http://www.ourdomain.com/mailman and http://domain.com/mailman were equally
available.

*** 1023,1031 
  /VirtualHost
  
  VirtualHost nnn.nnn.nnn.nnn
! ServerName www.ourdomain.com
  Documentroot /some/dir/ourdmain/htdocs
  ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ /some/dir/ourdmain/cgi-bin/
  ErrorLog /var/log/httpd/ourdomain/http_error.log
  CustomLog /var/log/httpd/ourdomain/http_access.log common
  /VirtualHost
--- 1023,1033 
  /VirtualHost
  
  VirtualHost nnn.nnn.nnn.nnn
! ServerName ourdomain.com
! ServerAlias *.ourdomain.com
  Documentroot /some/dir/ourdomain/htdocs
  ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ /some/dir/ourdomain/cgi-bin/
+ ScriptAlias /mailman/ /home/mailman/cgi-bin/
  ErrorLog /var/log/httpd/ourdomain/http_error.log
  CustomLog /var/log/httpd/ourdomain/http_access.log common
  /VirtualHost

(Actually, it's broader than Mailman - without this change
http://ourdomain.com wasn't handled properly.)

I've got the Host name this list prefers. set to 'ourdomain.com' and
Base URL for Mailman web interface. The URL must end in a single /. See
also the details for an important warning when changing this value. set to
'http://www.ourdomain.com/mailman/'.

Morgan

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[Mailman-Users] incremental updating of pipermail?

2002-02-15 Thread Morgan Fletcher

Is there a way to build out pipermail's archives incrementally, with older
archives?

Could I sequentially add month-long chunks of majordomo archives to
listname.mbox, updating pipermail as I go?

I'm trying to get around bin/arch, and I can't edit a 360MB file...

Morgan


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[Mailman-Users] Help Installing Mailman

2002-02-15 Thread Bodnyk, Bruce W

Hi,

I'm attempting to install Mailman 2.0.8 on Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 and am
having problems.
The install seemed to go smoothly up until I created the test list. That
seemed to go ok
and I got an email from mail-owner about the new list including the URLs of
the two web
pages. However when I try and go to them I'm told that the page is not
found.

When I try and send a help command to
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I get the message shown below. I'm rather new to Linux. It seemed
like the Apache install went OK because I can get to the standard
info page.

Any help would be appreciated!

Thanks!
Bruce

---

This message was created automatically by mail delivery software.

A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its
recipients. The following address(es) failed:

  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
generated |/home/mailman/mail/wrapper mailcmd test:
Child process of address_pipe transport returned 2 from command:
/home/mailman/mail/wrapper

The following text was generated during the delivery attempt:

-- |/home/mailman/mail/wrapper mailcmd test --

Failure to exec script. WANTED gid 8, GOT gid 31.  (Reconfigure to take 31?)




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Re: [Mailman-Users] Import Majordomo Archives

2002-02-15 Thread Maurice Lafleur

The archives are simply flat files (no HTML at all). All I want to do is add them 
(gzipped) to the list of available archives.

Regards,

(BTW I have no idea what MHonArc are...)

 Assuming that the archives are MHonArc archives then you can just take
 the 'dump' file which is in mbox format and put in the private archive
 directory for pipermail and then bin/arch the archive. Both Archivers
 use the same format of spoolfile because they are both email to HTML
 converters. 
 
 Mike
 
 On Fri, Feb 15, 2002 at 08:52:50AM -0800, Maurice  Lafleur wrote:
  Hi everyone,
  
  I have my MM installation almost all under control except for a quirk that I'll 
ask about later, but for now I need to know if there is a 
way to 
  import old MJ archive files into the MM archives created and maintained by MM?
  
  Thanks,
  
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[Mailman-Users] Mailman + multiple instalations + qmail = help needed

2002-02-15 Thread Rodrigo Borges Pereira

Hi all!

I'm having a weird problem here, need some help.

I have two installations of Mailman on my system, one for each domain
(let's say lists.domain1 and lists.domain2).

I'm using a directory structure like /var/mailman/domain. Qmail is
configured to point lists.domain1 to user 'mailman' and lists.domain2 to
user 'mailman1'.

I then user qmail-to-mailman.py.

Each compilation was properly configured to reflect the path and uid.

Problem:

lists.domain1 works fine but lists.domain2 does not. 

I have a 'test' list created, that appears on the web and on the file
structure (/var/mailman/domain2/lists/test). 

But everytime a mail is sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED], qmail-to-mailman.py
bounces.

I took a look at the code, and the ideia i got is that
qmail-to-mailman.py bounces if 'test' is not found under directory
'lists'. So, for some reason that i can't see, 'test' isn't found, but
it's there!

I already tried everything i could remember.. The installations seem
correct to me (at least one is working, i can't spot the difference
between them.

Any help will be appreciated.

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[Mailman-Users] Unsubscribe without knowing the password?

2002-02-15 Thread Amit Shanker



Hello,

I am new to Mailman. I am trying to setupthe 
list for a Newsletter where I would be subscribing (mass subscribing) people 
from an existing database.
I do not plan to send them a welcome message ( and 
therefore the password does not reach them)

I want to allow the members to unsubscribe from the 
list if they send the "unsubscribe" mail to the list.
I am able to dothis butthat option 
requires the members to know the password also and therefore they have to send a 
mail with subject like:
unsubscribe password

I do not want them to work with passwords. ie. If 
they send a mail from their mail account with "unsubscribe" or "remove" in the 
subject it should work.
Iplan to add the following line in the footer 
of the mail message
To unsubscribe : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe

Please let me know how I can do this.

Thankyou
Amit

PS: I do not want the members to go to website and 
first request the password.




[Mailman-Users] still confused

2002-02-15 Thread GINSINS

Hey,
My host provider supplies us with python email. I'm proud of myself, because 
I  was actually able to install names in my mail list (a year after I started 
my site!).  But where do I learn HTML code?  Is it standard for every server? 
In other words, if I borrow what I see in letters coming to me, will that 
work?
GInger
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[Mailman-Users] how to set up a read-only list?

2002-02-15 Thread Jonas Meurer

Hello,

How can I set up a read-only list? So that I can add/del subscribers,
the subscribers can del themselfs, and the world can subscribe for
reading only.

Thanks
   Jonas

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[Mailman-Users] Problems with mailman header regexps

2002-02-15 Thread Russell King

Hi,

Please CC: me with any responses; I'm not subscribed to these mailman
lists.

I'm desperately trying to get mailman to filter HTML-encoded email
from my mailing lists.  The problem is no matter what I try it still
gets through.

It appears that some of my regexps work, but some don't; this has been
annoying me for some time now, and I'm now at the point of considering
dropping mailman unless a solution to this problem can be found.

The message in question had the following headers:

 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 From: ³×Æ®¿öÅ© [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [±¤°í]¼Õ½¬¿î »ç¾÷¹× ºÎ¾÷À» ¼Ò°³ÇÕ´Ï´Ù
 Mime-Version: 1.0
 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ks_c_5601-1987
 X-User: 2.62-figjdliv-lilkhn-Ddigq
 Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

We've had all of the following in bounce matching headers:

Content-type: \(text\/html\|multipart\/alternative\)
Content-type: \(text/html\|multipart/alternative\)
Content-type \(text/html\|multipart/alternative\)

(the last is definitely wrong; mailman complains in the config log).
None of these have worked.  The full regexp list is currently:

Subject: \(xxx\|ndn:\|RCPT:\|Delivery Confirmation\|NON-DELIVERY of\|Undeliverable 
message\|Receipt Confirmation\|\(Failed\|Returned\|unable to deliver\|away from my\) 
mail\|autoreply\|millionaire\|money\|ADV\|=?ISO-20220JP?\|Snowhite and the Seven 
Dwarfs\|China-diesel\|invitation\|really works for me\|DVD Movies\|Tax 
Free\|Rated\|Credit\|\$\|MobiCam\)
Content-type: \(text\/html\|multipart\/alternative\)
Date: ..\s...\s..\s.*:..:..\s..\s*$
Date: .*=\?.*\?=
X-Mailer: eMerge
X-EM-Registration: .*
X-Mailman-Version: .*
To: linux-\(arm\|arm-announce\)\@lists.arm.linux.org.uk
CC: linux-\(arm\|arm-announce\)\@lists.arm.linux.org.uk

Note that the last two definitely have worked.

This is mailman 2.0.8.

Also, I'm pretty concerned that mailman developers don't take bug reports
seriously.  I have a bug report in the system against mailman that has sat
there since April 7th 2001 - 414502.  The nature of this bug is such that
mail content can cause mailman's queue runner to stop processing mail
(because it dies each time it hits this particular message).  If mail
content can crash mailman, maybe mail content can be used to exploit
mailman?  Well, I've had nothing back, apart from soneone else confirming
the problem.

Does anyone actually process any mailman bug reports?

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[Mailman-Users] Setup mailman restuctions

2002-02-15 Thread Peter Blajev

Hi

how can I setup a read-only list?
I need a list like Mailman-announce where very few people can post.
Please advice.

Thanks
Peter

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[Mailman-Users] Mailman and NFS

2002-02-15 Thread c9707044

I there :)

I´ve installed mailman in my MTA machine and I exported it by nfs to my 
webserver (so I have a mailman link in my document root t o/home/net/mailman)
everything looked fine until i noticed that the pipermail archive didn´t work. 
So when I went looking for the problem, I noticed that the link inside public 
archives was red (meaning that wasn´t liking anything).
Is this beacause of nfs exporting or because when trying to make the aliases 
the file that it should update is not the one on the webserver but the one on 
the MTA machine. I really don´t understand how this should be done, because I 
must have to separated machines!

So, anyone can help me?

Thanks 
Pedro  

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[Mailman-Users] Mailman + Mohnarc

2002-02-15 Thread Mike Goins

I'm not to fond of Mailman's archiving system and would like
to use Mohnarc (which I am already familiar with) instead.
Has anyone used both these together? If so, how?

Thanks

(searching the usual places did not yield anything(


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[Mailman-Users] Mailman Wishlist

2002-02-15 Thread Neal E. Coombes

I was looking over the Mailman website and came across this page:
http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/MM21/todo.html

I noticed that in every section of the todo list it actually repeats the
entire todo list from the very beginning to the end of that section...
as opposed to from the beginning of the section to the end of the
section.  Take a look and I think you'll see what I mean.

I've taken the liberty to correct the issue myself and attached is the
html file.  Please note that I didn't actually make any changes of the
items in the todo, I just changed the format so that it didn't repeat
the same thing over and over.  It's still the 11 July 2001 list.

Feel free to contact me for any other help.

Take care,

Neal E. Coombes
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 Please also see the Mailman design notes wiki at
 http://www.zope.org/Members/bwarsaw/MailmanDesignNotes/FrontPage

 Email Handling


 Use VERP or DSN for address tracing, perhaps tied to the monthly password reminders, or VERPing the occasional regular message.

 Re-implement bulk mailer the Right Way: an asynchat/asyncore server to do DNS lookups and remote MTA delivery directly
 (optional).


 Documentation


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 A user's guide
 A site-admin's guide
 A list-admin's guide
 More on-line documentation and UI help
 A developer's guide w/ architecture and API information
 manpages for the scripts in bin and cron
 Integrate Christopher Kolar's documentation

 General Web UI


 NO DEAD ENDS and every web page is reachable.
 All web UI must be configurable so that it more easily integrates into an existing site's design.  Probably means using
 a template language/system like Zope's Presentation Templates,
 Quixote, or PHP.

 Default UI should add a navigation sidebar to all web pages.
 Web pages should never mention disabled features.

 List Administration


 Allow the moderator to edit posts being held for approval (make it evident, either through a header or other means that the
 message was edited by the moderator).

 Allow the list-admin to require approvals for unsubs
 Allow the admin to disable option settings by users
 Ability to set defaults for the various user settings from the "Membership Management" page.

 Allow admins to control and set individual headers, adding, removing, or overriding those in the original message (sometimes
 very useful, but could be dangerous!)

 New moderation choice: archive but don't send to list.
 New moderation choice: annotate and send to author for resubmittal.
 Make it easier for an admin who manages multiple lists to handling pending requests sitting on all those lists.

 Ability to ban specific troublesome users (from posting, subscribing, etc).  Posts from banned users would be discarded.

 Better integration with moderated newsgroups (and allow some addresses to bypass even that moderation and be delivered to a
 secondary channel, like [EMAIL PROTECTED]).

 Add an option to include Reply-To: header in the membership test for a members-only list posting


 List Membership


 Allow the user to be excluded from postings if they're getting them in the to: or cc: headers.  Be smarter about filtering out
 duplicate deliveries.

 Have one account per user per site, with multiple email addresses and fallbacks.  Allow them to subscribe whichever
 address they want to whichever list, with different options per
 subscription.

 Allow the user to get BOTH normal and digested delivery (but I still don't understand why someone would want this)

 More flexible digests: index digests (subject and authors only, with URLs to retrieve the article)

 Timed vacations, allowing a user to postpone or discard email for a certain number of days or weeks.


 Site Administration


 Allow the site admin to define list styles or themes, and list admins 

[Mailman-Users] Mailman configuration problems

2002-02-15 Thread Satheesh Kolathur

I have a problem with configuring Mailman.

I am installing Mailman 1.1 because I do not have the latest version of
Python and there is a ripple effect if i need to upgrade the software.

So I decided to go with Mailman 1.1 with a compatible version of
Python. 

I need support for virtual hosts. I was wondering if Mailman 1.1
supports it.

Also, I successfully installed Mailman and created a test list.
I got an email to my account with a link to the mailman administrator
site.
When i check the link http://www.openmp.org/mailman/admin/satheeshtest
it says 

Internal Server Error
The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was
unable to complete your request...

Mu suexec_log is as below
-
[2002-02-15 12:05:55]: info: (target/actual) uid: (ompweb/ompweb) gid:
(ompweb/ompweb) cmd: index.cgi
[2002-02-15 12:06:14]: info: (target/actual) uid: (ompweb/ompweb) gid:
(ompweb/ompweb) cmd: index.cgi
[2002-02-15 12:06:57]: info: (target/actual) uid: (ompweb/ompweb) gid:
(ompweb/ompweb) cmd: index.cgi
-

I have no idea whats has gone wrong. But I do not find the directory
mailman/admin/satheeshtest in www.openmp.org. Who creates it?
It is a named virtual host.

Any help on this would be appreciated.

Thanks  Regards
Satheesh

PS: Do you think Hypermail is any easier to install/configure ??


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[Mailman-Users] Prevent non-company email entries

2002-02-15 Thread Flipp Moutt

I'm looking at the bounce_matching_headers variable and it works great, 
but what I want to do is to reject all email that does not contain 
'.*@company.com'
What is the NOT regex for that?
I've tried
From: ! .*@company.comand
! From: .*@company.comand a bunch others like that.

I'm running out of ideas..

Thanks
Jim


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[Mailman-Users] Mail error

2002-02-15 Thread James O'Brien

Greetings. I have a problem and I really need some help! I receive the
following error when I try to access
http://obrienpc.net/mailman/admin/alert_obrienpc.net either through the
administrative interface or though my website.

Bug in Mailman version 2.0.1

We're sorry, we hit a bug!
Please inform the webmaster for this site of this problem. Printing of
traceback and other system information has been explicitly inhibited, but
the webmaster can find this information in the Mailman error logs.


I don't know much about this system and could use some helpful
troubleshooting advice.


Thank you!

James O'Brien
www.obrienpc.net


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[Mailman-Users] Problems Installing Mailman

2002-02-15 Thread Bodnyk, Bruce W

Hi,

I'm attempting to install Mailman 2.0.8 on Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 and am
having problems.
The install seemed to go smoothly up until I created the test list. That
seemed to go ok
and I got an email from mail-owner about the new list including the URLs of
the two web
pages. However when I try and go to them I'm told that the page is not
found.

When I try and send a help command to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
I get the message shown below. I'm rather new to Linux. It seemed
like the Apache install went OK because I can get to the standard
info page.

Any help would be appreciated!

Thanks!
Bruce

---

This message was created automatically by mail delivery software.

A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its
recipients. The following address(es) failed:

  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
generated |/home/mailman/mail/wrapper mailcmd test:
Child process of address_pipe transport returned 2 from command:
/home/mailman/mail/wrapper

The following text was generated during the delivery attempt:

-- |/home/mailman/mail/wrapper mailcmd test --

Failure to exec script. WANTED gid 8, GOT gid 31.  (Reconfigure to take 31?)



Bruce W. Bodnyk
Staff Engineer, CAE Development
FCI Electronics
825 Old Trail Road
Etters, PA 17319-9351

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[Mailman-Users] md5 passwords

2002-02-15 Thread Greg Harris

Hi, I'm trying to locate where mailman stores the md5 password hashes for 
the subscribers to the list so I can use the list to authenticate other 
tasks (share the same password hash file).  Could you tell me where it 
is?  Thanks

Greg


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Re: [Mailman-Users] still confused

2002-02-15 Thread Dan Wilder

HTML is a standard protocol, interpreted by browsers.  Basic
HTML takes me about a half-hour to teach a beginner, with another
half-hour session covering additional topics needed for elementary
website maintenance.

Try keying

learn html

into 

http://www.google.com

for pointers to several tutorials.


On Thu, Feb 14, 2002 at 09:36:36AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hey,
 My host provider supplies us with python email. I'm proud of myself, because 
 I  was actually able to install names in my mail list (a year after I started 
 my site!).  But where do I learn HTML code?  Is it standard for every server? 
 In other words, if I borrow what I see in letters coming to me, will that 
 work?
 GInger
 TastyFaith.com
 
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RE: [Mailman-Users] still confused

2002-02-15 Thread Michael Johnson

Here's one for him. I don't know how good it is. 

A Beginner's Guide to HTML 

http://archive.ncsa.uiuc.edu/General/Internet/WWW/HTMLPrimer.html

I would search google more specifically: 'html tutorial'. 

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dan Wilder
 Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 4:31 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] still confused
 
 
 HTML is a standard protocol, interpreted by browsers.  Basic
 HTML takes me about a half-hour to teach a beginner, with another
 half-hour session covering additional topics needed for elementary
 website maintenance.
 
 Try keying
 
 learn html
 
 into 
 
 http://www.google.com
 
 for pointers to several tutorials.
 
 
 On Thu, Feb 14, 2002 at 09:36:36AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hey,
  My host provider supplies us with python email. I'm proud of 
 myself, because 
  I  was actually able to install names in my mail list (a year 
 after I started 
  my site!).  But where do I learn HTML code?  Is it standard for 
 every server? 
  In other words, if I borrow what I see in letters coming to me, 
 will that 
  work?
  GInger
  TastyFaith.com
  
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[Mailman-Users] news-mail gateway not working

2002-02-15 Thread Kervin Pierre

Hi,

I have got mailman to post the mail-news messages but any messages that 
are sent to the newsgroup do not get posted to the mailing list.

The cron job returns this message...

Subject: Cron mailman@gloria /usr/bin/python -S
 /home/mailman/cron/gate_news

Traceback (innermost last):
   File /home/mailman/cron/gate_news, line 222, in ?
 main()
   File /home/mailman/cron/gate_news, line 203, in main
 process_lists(lock)
   File /home/mailman/cron/gate_news, line 148, in process_lists
 conn, first, last = open_newsgroup(mlist)
   File /home/mailman/cron/gate_news, line 78, in open_newsgroup
 r,c,f,l,n = conn.group(mlist.linked_newsgroup)
   File /home/mailman/Mailman/pythonlib/nntplib.py, line 260, in group
 resp = self.shortcmd('GROUP ' + name)
   File /home/mailman/Mailman/pythonlib/nntplib.py, line 210, in shortcmd
 return self.getresp()
   File /home/mailman/Mailman/pythonlib/nntplib.py, line 184, in getresp
 raise NNTPTemporaryError(resp)
Mailman.pythonlib.nntplib.NNTPTemporaryError: 411 No such group flt.acm

But I know for a fact that the newsgroup works, and plus mail-news *is* 
working fine.  What can be wrong with the news-mail part?

The newsgroup has no user restrictions.

Thanks,
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