[Mailman-Users] problems with MM 2.1
I had been running MM 2.0.13 for some time now. I upgraded to 2.1 on my test system, RH 8 running Postfix 2 and had no problems. SO I upgraded my production system, RH 7.1 with Postfix 1.1.11 and am now unable to send messages to the lists. I have tried running configure with -prefixes that I thought made sense, and have included the most recent config right here: ./configure --with-python=/usr/local/bin/python --exec-prefix=/usr/local/bin/ --with-cgi-gid=apache --prefix=/home/mailman --with-mail-gid=postfix I have also tried --with-mail-gid=mailman and nobody. Currently the error in the Postfix maillog file: Jan 3 04:05:37 tulku postfix/local[6680]: DBB7C3EF1: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], relay=local, delay=30, status=bounced (Command died with status 1: /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post test) and I am unable to get any messages to my lists. I would appreciate any suggestions you could provide. Thanks. Sent via the WebMail system at mandala-designs.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Mailman on Mac OS X?
Is anyone here using Mailman on OS X? I've followed the instructions put together by Kathleen Webb at http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/msg12599.html but keep getting this when I try to create a 'test' list: [ibb-80:~] mailman% /Applications/mailman/bin/newlist Enter the name of the list: test Enter the email of the person running the list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Initial test password: Traceback (most recent call last): File /Applications/mailman/bin/newlist, line 220, in ? main() File /Applications/mailman/bin/newlist, line 169, in main mlist.Create(listname, owner_mail, pw) File /Applications/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py, line 782, in Create Utils.MakeDirTree(os.path.join(mm_cfg.LIST_DATA_DIR, name)) File /Applications/mailman/Mailman/Utils.py, line 265, in MakeDirTree os.mkdir(made_part, perms) OSError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/Applications/mailman/lists/test' [ibb-80:~] mailman% I could sure use some hints on what might be wrong. Thanks. bw --- Bill Whitacre [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Problem when starting mailmanctl (Cannot importrunner module xxx)
Hi, * Barry A. Warsaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Start by upgrading to Python 2.1.3. I'm not sure that's your problem, but I just tested it with that version and it worked for me: thank you! Yes, that was the problem. btw, the futures in the new Version are very nice - good work! --Sebastian -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] aliases in README.QMAIL
Stanton Schell wrote: Illegal_command:_mailowner/. I changed the aliases for the list to use the commands request and owner instead of mailcmd and mailowner and that fixed things. So you changed this line inside .qmail-list-* : |preline /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman mailcmd listname ^^^ with the request and owner command? I'll try to do. What about normal posting? Does it work properly? -- Bazzmann Labs(c) - Accessibilita', usabilita', webdesign e standard W3C ::::-:: http://www.bazzmann.it | Il sito ufficiale di Bazzmann Labs. http://www.bazzmann.com | La risorsa per informare e aggiornare. http://www.dev2dev.it | Elemento D2D002 -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Personalization in 2.1
Just installed 2.1 over the top of 2.1rc3. No problems. However am looking for the personalization parameter in the web interface, but can't find it. Cheers Brian Brian J Read www.abandonmicrosoft.co.uk www.theonlineorganiser.com www.thepersonalknowledgebase.com Mitel SMEserver Contributions and Howtos: www.abandonmicrosoft.co.uk/abandon/links.html +44 1695 723723 -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Archive and web link problems with 2.1
On Thu, 2 Jan 2003 23:09:15 -0500, Barry A. Warsaw wrote: JS == John Swartzentruber [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: JS 1. When I go to the private archive for a list at JS http://mcswartz.org.swartz/mailman/private/listname, I see the ---^^^ Wow, I wasn't aware that swartz was a new TLD. :) Well, you learn something new every day :-) JS Is this a problem in Mailman, or is my configuration wrong JS somehow? I installed Mailman 2.1 from source into the default JS location. I'm running RedHat7.3, so this was not the location JS where Mailman 2.0.13 was installed. After everything was JS installed, I moved my lists to the new location (from JS /var/mailman/lists to /usr/local/mailman/lists). Check your Defaults.py and mm_cfg.py files to see if things like PUBLIC_ARCHIVE_URL make sense. It has the default value in Default.py, and I haven't overridden it in mm_cfg.py. It is: PUBLIC_ARCHIVE_URL = 'http://%(hostname)s/pipermail/%(listname)s' It seems that if this value were bad, it would not get me to the main archives page. As it is, I can get there fine, but the links on that page are incorrect. I don't know Python (I'm pretty much 100% C++ for the last 12 years), but if you give me some pointers, I could try to snoop around a bit. Actually, I just found something interesting. It might be an Apache configuration problem. If so and someone has a clue, I'd appreciate hearing about it. When I use this URL: http://mcswartz.org.swartz/mailman/private/listname The links (which I see are relative), leave out the listname part. But when I use this URL: http://mcswartz.org.swartz/mailman/private/listname/ The links include the listname part and work correctly. JS My problem is that on some of the administration pages, some JS links link to http://mcswartz.org.swartz/mailman/... and JS other's link to http://www.mcswartz.org/mailman/... JS For example, from JS http://mcswartz.org.swartz/mailman/admin/listname/members, I JS can access all of the configuration categories correctly, JS but I cannot Go to list archives. Even more annoying, I can JS only see the A's that are subscribed to my list because all of JS the other letters link to the www.mcswartz.org URLs, which I JS cannot access internally. I don't think Mailman's gong to work to well this way. Basically, you can't give lists multiple personalities. You'll probably have to do some fancy redirections with Apache to make this work. Couldn't Mailman produce the URLs more consistently? For example, when I look at the HTML, some of the links start with ../../../admin/, and some of them start with http://www.mcswartz.org/mailman/admin/;. The relative URLs work fine for me, but the absolute ones don't. Thanks for your help. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Passwords of members UPDATE
What are you using for Password authentication on your system? Are you using PAMs? What does your /etc/nsswitch.conf file look like (are you using NIS)? NIS is used, but the mailman user account info is local to the web server. Mailman's home directory, though, is shared between the web server and the mail server. Some nsswitch.conf entries: passwd: compat group: files nis hosts: dns nis [NOTFOUND=return] files netgroup: nis automount: files nis aliases:files nis But again, I never had the list-admin authentication problem until I upgraded the Apache server. Whether the mailman list config databases before the apache upgrade had the nobody user set, I do not know. What could have changed from doing the apache upgrade? The user that CGI scripts get run by? Our cgi-scripts are working ok. Steve Rifkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] mm2.1 - message is unparsable
On Thursday, January 2, 2003, at 11:24 PM, Barry A. Warsaw wrote: This is normal, and no, you don't need to worry about the lost data files. In fact, once you get comfortable that the only bad messages are spam, you can set QRUNNER_SAVE_BAD_MESSAGES=0 in your mm_cfg.py to just discard them. I'd be comfortable discarding them now if the error logs had a little more information - the From: address at least - so I can find where mail is going if someone somehow manages to create a broken message that's legit. Never say never when there are an Internet full of users involved. ;) Bryan -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Re: upgrading plaintext patched 2.0.13 to 2.1
Dan Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I located if self.data_version = mm_cfg.DATA_FILE_VERSION: at line 611 of the /Mailman/MailList.py file. Is this what needs to be altered? Do I just make the change to that file then run ./configure? Dan: I ran into this exact problem in an early beta of MM 2.1 ... you are correct, basically change the DATA_FILE_VERSION statement back to DATA_FILE_VERSION = 21, configure, and reinstall, and it should be corrected. david -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Personalization in 2.1
I am using 2.1b5 and I needed to set OWNERS_CAN_ENABLE_PERSONALIZATION to 1 in /Mailman/Default.py After doing this, I had a new option in nondigest section On Fri, 03 Jan 2003 11:45:56 + Brian Read [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just installed 2.1 over the top of 2.1rc3. No problems. However am looking for the personalization parameter in the web interface, but can't find it. Cheers Brian Brian J Read www.abandonmicrosoft.co.uk www.theonlineorganiser.com www.thepersonalknowledgebase.com Mitel SMEserver Contributions and Howtos: www.abandonmicrosoft.co.uk/abandon/links.html +44 1695 723723 -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/g.duteil%40alsim.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] not getting emails
Mailman is part of my hosting plan and I am accessing it through cpanel at my admin site. I am configuring my list and have gotten pretty far except for the following: subscribed myself-got confirmation email-sent reply to confirm, but reply email came back demon saying account no longer accepts mail. also sending posts to my list and i get no emails and nothing shows in archives. im no programmer, faqs havent helped. i need explicit instructions. please help Ricco "Out of my mind, back in 5 minutes." -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Personalization in 2.1
On Friday, January 3, 2003, at 11:11 AM, Guillaume Duteil wrote: I am using 2.1b5 and I needed to set OWNERS_CAN_ENABLE_PERSONALIZATION to 1 in /Mailman/Default.py Humm, this is the right setting, but you know you should not be changing Mailman/Defaults.py, right? From Defaults.py: # NEVER make site configuration changes to this file. ALWAYS make them in # mm_cfg.py instead, in the designated area. See the comments in that file # for details. Bryan -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Converting 2.0 to 2.1
KR == Kyle Rhorer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
KR This might be a good opportunity to remind folks that prudent
KR system administration practice dictates one make not only
KR frequent, scheduled backups, but also a one-off backup before
KR upgrading software. I'm sure we all know that already, but
KR it's easy to become complacent.
Good reminder Kyle.
BTW, for those of you upgrading a list at a time, what I do first is
create a tarball in 2.0.13 before moving the directories over to 2.1.
E.g.
% cd /usr/local/mailman20
% tar zcvf SAFETIES/mylist.tgz lists/mylist archives/private/mylist{.mbox,}
-Barry
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Converting 2.0 to 2.1
On Thursday 02 January 2003 21:40, Barry A. Warsaw wrote: MJ 2.) can we switch back to 2.0.13 easily in case we encounter a MJ problem or do the DBs get converted somehow? Yes, of course they do! No, you cannot easily downgrade, so I'd suggest making backups first if you're concerned. This might be a good opportunity to remind folks that prudent system administration practice dictates one make not only frequent, scheduled backups, but also a one-off backup before upgrading software. I'm sure we all know that already, but it's easy to become complacent. Kyle -- Since the general civilizations of mankind, I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations. -James Madison -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman on OS X?
It WORKS! I'm ELATED! I'm not sure what exactly I did, except meticulously go through Kathleen's instructions ONE MORE TIME! One hint: if you get as far as successfully creating the 'test' list but can't connect to the web portion try two things: 1) make sure you have around the your ScriptAlias statements in httpd.conf: Kathleen has: ScriptAlias /mailman/ /Applications/mailman/cgi-bin/ Should be : ScriptAlias /mailman/ /Applications/mailman/cgi-bin/ 2) make sure you stop/start Apache in the Sharing System Pref -- so simple, yet so deadly! I want to thank everyone one both the web-development and mailmanusers lists for all your help and Kathleen for some really great instructions! Now, is there a way to SEARCH on mailman archives? I don't see it as an option in pipermail ... I'll bet there's a FAQ about this though so I'm going to Google it. Enjoy! bw --- On Friday, January 3, 2003, at 05:37 AM, Bill Whitacre wrote: Is anyone here using Mailman on OS X? I've followed the instructions put together by Kathleen Webb at http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/msg12599.html but keep getting this when I try to create a 'test' list: [ibb-80:~] mailman% /Applications/mailman/bin/newlist Enter the name of the list: test Enter the email of the person running the list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Initial test password: Traceback (most recent call last): File /Applications/mailman/bin/newlist, line 220, in ? main() File /Applications/mailman/bin/newlist, line 169, in main mlist.Create(listname, owner_mail, pw) File /Applications/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py, line 782, in Create Utils.MakeDirTree(os.path.join(mm_cfg.LIST_DATA_DIR, name)) File /Applications/mailman/Mailman/Utils.py, line 265, in MakeDirTree os.mkdir(made_part, perms) OSError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/Applications/mailman/lists/test' [ibb-80:~] mailman% I could sure use some hints on what might be wrong. Thanks. bw --- Bill Whitacre [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ web-development mailing list | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Help/Unsubscribe/Archives: http://www.lists.apple.com/mailman/listinfo/web-development Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. --- Bill Whitacre [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman on Mac OS X?
* Bill Whitacre ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Is anyone here using Mailman on OS X? I've followed the instructions put together by Kathleen Webb at http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/msg12599.html but keep getting this when I try to create a 'test' list: [ibb-80:~] mailman% /Applications/mailman/bin/newlist Enter the name of the list: test Enter the email of the person running the list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Initial test password: Traceback (most recent call last): File /Applications/mailman/bin/newlist, line 220, in ? main() File /Applications/mailman/bin/newlist, line 169, in main mlist.Create(listname, owner_mail, pw) File /Applications/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py, line 782, in Create Utils.MakeDirTree(os.path.join(mm_cfg.LIST_DATA_DIR, name)) File /Applications/mailman/Mailman/Utils.py, line 265, in MakeDirTree os.mkdir(made_part, perms) OSError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/Applications/mailman/lists/test' [ibb-80:~] mailman% Did you run check_perms? -- | Matthew Davis /\ http://dogpound.vnet.net/ | || | Friday, January 03, 2003 / 01:36PM | -- Machine independent code isn't. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Cpanel 5
Anyone using Cpanel 5 to administer Mailman? The GUI is totally different then the programming and I need help on some basics. I am a first time user that is about 90% done but I'm stuck on a few things. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Re: Getting hostname...
Ashley M. Kirchner wrote: How can I get the list hostname in MTA/Utils.py ? I'm hacking the _makealiases routines and I need to get the list hostname to add it. Nevermind. Got it from mm_cfg.DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST (once defined) -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Getting hostname...
How can I get the list hostname in MTA/Utils.py ? I'm hacking the _makealiases routines and I need to get the list hostname to add it. -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: upgrading plaintext patched 2.0.13 to 2.1
At 16:03 03/01/2003, David Gibbs wrote: Dan Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I located if self.data_version = mm_cfg.DATA_FILE_VERSION: at line 611 of the /Mailman/MailList.py file. Is this what needs to be altered? Do I just make the change to that file then run ./configure? Dan: I ran into this exact problem in an early beta of MM 2.1 ... you are correct, basically change the DATA_FILE_VERSION statement back to DATA_FILE_VERSION = 21, configure, and reinstall, and it should be corrected. david And if you look in the UPGRADING file in the MM 2.1 distribution you'll find Barry has referenced a patch which you can apply to MM 2.1 source to deal with the problem: quote - If you've applied patch #413752 (coerce to plaintext), then your upgraded will not go smoothly. Take a look at patch #651406 for an unofficial solution. http://sf.net/tracker/?group_id=103atid=300103func=detailaid=413752 http://sf.net/tracker/?group_id=103atid=300103func=detailaid=651406 /quote -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Passwords of members UPDATE
Just did another reinstall of 2.0.13. Again, installed with no problems. Check_perm ran fine... again And, the list ownerships for the config.db file for my test list is: -rw-rw 1 mailman mailman 3169 Jan 03 11:57 config.db (owned and group-owned by mailman) Then, I log into the list as the site admin, and change the lists's admin's password. When I do, the config.db file now has these attributes: -rw-rw 1 nobody mailman 3169 Jan 03 14:35 config.db Yes, nobody has replaced mailman as owner again And the list admin gets an authentication error trying to log in to its list. If, as site admin, I once again change the list admin's pwd (this time to a longer password, so that hopefully, config.db would change size) and log out, the config.db file remains the same size with the updated timestamp. -rw-rw 1 nobody mailman 3169 Jan 03 14:36 config.db Still owned by nobody! (yet, still group-owned by mailman) And still not allowing list admin's to log in... onl log in... only site admin and users can log in. (and this happens to all of our lists). Running check_perms again (now that nobody is the owner and mailman is the group owner of the config.db files), I still receive No problems found Since the only signs of error are 1) the Authentication failed error for the list admins, and 2) config.db doesn't looks as if it is updated [comparing the size of the of current and previous config.db files]... ...is there any way to do a trace of what is happening? Can python be used for this? It's almost as if the list admin password being changed by the site admin never really updates the config.db file. Oh, I even tried the setup using the mailman group consisting of mailman and nobody. Steve Rifkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] upgrade: 2.0.13 to 2.1, searchable archives?
Howdy, I successfully upgraded from 2.0.13 to 2.1 today, with minimal fuss and pain. Some comments: a) I can no longer get sync_members to work. It always gives the following error: Traceback (most recent call last): File /opt/mailman/bin/sync_members, line 286, in ? main() File /opt/mailman/bin/sync_members, line 258, in main s = email.Utils.formataddr((name, addr)).encode(enc, 'replace') UnboundLocalError: local variable 'enc' referenced before assignment I really miss sync_members... b) The ability to turn off RFC2369 mail headers on a per-list basis is a huge win for me, for a few cranky list-owners that hated seeing the list management stuff in Eudora. Thank you, thank you. c) The ability to turn off subscribe/unsubscribe passwords and/or list-owner confirmation on a per-list basis would also be a help. After converting from majordomo to Mailman, some of my old list-owners hate the password thing, and so are less than happy with Mailman (I am however). Question: How to I get searchable archives? Like http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ for my own mailing-list archives? How come this doesn't come as a part of Mailman? --- Jeff Earickson -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Mistake
I signed up for mailman user by mistake. I need to know how to unsubscribe. Please Help! -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] sync_members now works great
At 10:58 PM 01/02/2003 -0500, Barry A. Warsaw wrote: NWC == NOW Website Coordinator [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: NWC I upgraded to the very latest release of 2.1 and I still NWC can't get sync_members to work. Dumb bugs on my part. Here's a patch. -Barry Thanks for the patch! All is well (at least after I dug in to the Unix tr command and got rid of those commas in the weird list I'd been given -- it's sometimes used just to put addresses in the BCC field, so it's a list with a comma after every address, and of course one address has two addresses on a line). Thanks for everything, including 2.1. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mistake
On Fri, 3 Jan 2003 16:06:09 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I signed up for mailman user by mistake. I need to know how to unsubscribe. Please Help! I don't suppose you'd consider looking at the bottom of every post that comes from the list? -- Raquel We gain strength, and courage, and confidence by each experience in which we really stop to look fear in the face... we must do that which we cannot. --Eleanor Roosevelt -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Question about fixing an install..
I am still running 2.1b5, and would like to upgrade to 2.1RC1... but I'd like to resolve this one eetsy problem. I had failed to create the mailman list as the first list in my install. I have since done so--but I still get the cron error: Site list is missing: mailman So I figure, hey.. I want to upgrade to RC1... is there a way I can make this a smooth transition and fix this error? Can I back up my old lists, then back up my mailman directory, install the new version, create the mailman list, and finally import all the settings and such into the new install? Will this cause any of my list owners grief? Thanks! Glenn --- The original portions of this message are the copyright of the author (c)1998-2002 Glenn E. Sieb.ICQ UIN: 300395IRC Nick: Rainbear Religion is for those who do what they are told regardless of what is right. Spirituality is for those who do what is right regardless of what they are told. -- unattributed -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] upgrade: 2.0.13 to 2.1, searchable archives?
At 21:03 03/01/2003, Jeff A. Earickson wrote: Howdy, I successfully upgraded from 2.0.13 to 2.1 today, with minimal fuss and pain. Some comments: a) I can no longer get sync_members to work. It always gives the following error: Traceback (most recent call last): File /opt/mailman/bin/sync_members, line 286, in ? main() File /opt/mailman/bin/sync_members, line 258, in main s = email.Utils.formataddr((name, addr)).encode(enc, 'replace') UnboundLocalError: local variable 'enc' referenced before assignment I really miss sync_members... b) The ability to turn off RFC2369 mail headers on a per-list basis is a huge win for me, for a few cranky list-owners that hated seeing the list management stuff in Eudora. Thank you, thank you. c) The ability to turn off subscribe/unsubscribe passwords and/or list-owner confirmation on a per-list basis would also be a help. After converting from majordomo to Mailman, some of my old list-owners hate the password thing, and so are less than happy with Mailman (I am however). Question: How to I get searchable archives? Like http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ for my own mailing-list archives? How come this doesn't come as a part of Mailman? The www.mail-archive.com site use the htdig search engine which is available from http://htdig.org and is also included in several Linux distributions. However, that site uses the MHonArc archiving software rather than MM's builtin Pipermail archiver. One approach to integrating builtin-Pipermail-archiver constructed MM archives with htdig is to apply the following patches in the order given to a MM 2.1 build directory: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=661138group_id=103atid=300103 http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=444879group_id=103atid=300103 http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=444884group_id=103atid=300103 You will find a comprehensive INSTALL.htdig-mm document is available in the MM build directory after applying patch #444884 You might also like to check out other options with the MM FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq01.011.htp Note that the extra #661138 patch needed with MM 2.1 hasn't made it into the FAQ yet. --- Jeff Earickson -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Question about fixing an install..
GS == Glenn Sieb [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: GS I am still running 2.1b5, and would like to upgrade to GS 2.1RC1... but I'd like to resolve this one eetsy problem. GS I had failed to create the mailman list as the first list in GS my install. I have since done so--but I still get the cron GS error: GS Site list is missing: mailman It would be worth investigating why you still get this. You shouldn't! You cd to /usr/local/mailman and type bin/list_lists. Does the mailman list show up there? It should. GS So I figure, hey.. I want to upgrade to RC1... is there a way GS I can make this a smooth transition and fix this error? Can I GS back up my old lists, then back up my mailman directory, GS install the new version, create the mailman list, and finally GS import all the settings and such into the new install? Will GS this cause any of my list owners grief? The databases for 2.1b5, 2.1rc1, and 2.1final are completely identical so your files should work just fine in any of those versions, although of course I'll recommend moving to 2.1 final instead of messing with betas or release candidates. I don't think any of those will have any effect on your site-list problem. -Barry -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] upgrade: 2.0.13 to 2.1, searchable archives?
JAE == Jeff A Earickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: JAE I successfully upgraded from 2.0.13 to 2.1 today, with JAE minimal fuss and pain. Some comments: JAE a) I can no longer get sync_members to work. It always gives JAE the following error: Yep, known bug. I posted a patch for this a few days ago. Alternatively, you can grab the whole file from: http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/mailman/mailman/bin/sync_members?rev=HEADcontent-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup Drop this in your source directory, run config.status, and re-install. JAE b) The ability to turn off RFC2369 mail headers on a per-list JAE basis is a huge win for me, for a few cranky list-owners that JAE hated seeing the list management stuff in Eudora. Thank you, JAE thank you. You're welcome! JAE c) The ability to turn off subscribe/unsubscribe passwords JAE and/or list-owner confirmation on a per-list basis would also JAE be a help. After converting from majordomo to Mailman, some JAE of my old list-owners hate the password thing, and so are JAE less than happy with Mailman (I am however). You know that you don't really /need/ the passwords much for subscribes and unsubscribes. Mailman will use mailback confirmations for these actions if no password is given. If users never want to modify their options, they don't need to know their password. I'm not sure what list-owner confirmation means. Do you mean the Approve option under the Privacy category for subscribe_policy? JAE Question: How to I get searchable archives? Like JAE http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ JAE for my own mailing-list archives? You can try the htdig patches on SourceForge. This is not officially supported right now. JAE How come this doesn't come as a part of Mailman? I'd prefer a Pythonic solution integrated with Pipermail. Lacking that, eventually some kind of third party hook for external indexers will likely become official. I don't have any plans to distribute or bundle something like htdig. -Barry -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] not getting emails
You should talk to your hosting folks about this. I'm not familiar with CPanel but does it have a switch you need to toggle after creating a group (something that re-initializes your local mail aliases)? Good Luck - Jon Carnes On Fri, 2003-01-03 at 11:42, Swytchcraft Audio wrote: Mailman is part of my hosting plan and I am accessing it through cpanel at my admin site. I am configuring my list and have gotten pretty far except for the following: subscribed myself-got confirmation email-sent reply to confirm, but reply email came back demon saying account no longer accepts mail. also sending posts to my list and i get no emails and nothing shows in archives. im no programmer, faqs havent helped. i need explicit instructions. please help Ricco Out of my mind, back in 5 minutes. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/jonc%40nc.rr.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] problem running Mailman 2.1 on RH 7.1
Don't quote me, but doesn't status 1 mean, that it couldn't locate (or run) the alias? Does /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman exist as an executable program? What happens if you try to run that command by hand (su as the user postfix first)? Good Luck - Jon Carnes On Fri, 2003-01-03 at 12:35, ljacobs wrote: Folks -- In my previous note I mentioned that I had been running Mailman 2.0.13 on a RH 7.1 server. Upon upgrading to Mailman 2.1, and upgrading to python 2.2.2 and Postfix 1.1.11, I am now unable to get messages delivered. Does anyone else have experience in resolving this Postfix maillog error: === Jan 3 04:05:37 tulku postfix/local[6680]: DBB7C3EF1: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], relay=local, delay=30, status=bounced (Command died with status 1: /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post test) === I would appreciate any suggestions you could provide. Thanks. Sent via the WebMail system at mandala-designs.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/jonc%40nc.rr.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Question about fixing an install..
At 06:46 PM 1/3/2003 -0500, Barry A. Warsaw posted the following... It would be worth investigating why you still get this. You shouldn't! I'm in full agreement with you on this :) You cd to /usr/local/mailman and type bin/list_lists. Does the mailman list show up there? It should. (Stuff deleted for privacy) Mailman - [no description available] Test2 - A test list for Glenn to play with. Yup it's there... :) The databases for 2.1b5, 2.1rc1, and 2.1final are completely identical so your files should work just fine in any of those versions, although of course I'll recommend moving to 2.1 final instead of messing with betas or release candidates. I don't think any of those will have any effect on your site-list problem. Ok cool.. I'll hang out on 2.1b5 then until 2.1 final comes out... So, what do I need to post in order to help figure out what's going on here? :-/ Thanks! Glenn --- The original portions of this message are the copyright of the author (c)1998-2002 Glenn E. Sieb.ICQ UIN: 300395IRC Nick: Rainbear Religion is for those who do what they are told regardless of what is right. Spirituality is for those who do what is right regardless of what they are told. -- unattributed -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Qrunner wrong path
I have a problem with mailman, When I send mail to the list this message is coming back: - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors - [EMAIL PROTECTED] (reason: 554 5.4.6 Too many hops) - Transcript of session follows - 554 5.4.6 Too many hops 26 (25 max): from [EMAIL PROTECTED] via someone.com, to general-request@www. some_groups.com I think I found the problem, The error message I found is: usr/bin/python: can't open file '/home/mailman/cron/qrunner' and that is correct because the qrunner path must be : /home/virtual/site2/fst/usr/share/mailman/cron/qrunner The only problem is for me to find out where to change that ;-) Does anybody know where or how?? Friendly Rob Stolk Deze email is voor het verzenden gescanned op virussen door NORTON 2003 -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Question about fixing an install..
Glenn Sieb wrote: Ok cool.. I'll hang out on 2.1b5 then until 2.1 final comes out... 2.1 final is out. -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Question about fixing an install..
At 05:34 PM 1/3/2003 -0700, Ashley M. Kirchner posted the following... 2.1 final is out. D'oh.. I guess I missed the announcement.. thanks :) Glenn --- The original portions of this message are the copyright of the author (c)1998-2002 Glenn E. Sieb.ICQ UIN: 300395IRC Nick: Rainbear Religion is for those who do what they are told regardless of what is right. Spirituality is for those who do what is right regardless of what they are told. -- unattributed -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Answer about fixing an install
*sigh* *puts on dunce cap* *sits in corner* Mailman's crontab was pointing to /usr/local/mailman2.1 instead of /usr/local/mailman (2.1 was a test I did at one point, which ended up being rolled into /usr/local/mailman Can someone pass me the sugar-free Red Bull? My brain needs a boost LOL Thanks everyone :) Glenn --- The original portions of this message are the copyright of the author (c)1998-2002 Glenn E. Sieb.ICQ UIN: 300395IRC Nick: Rainbear Religion is for those who do what they are told regardless of what is right. Spirituality is for those who do what is right regardless of what they are told. -- unattributed -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] upgrade: 2.0.13 to 2.1, searchable archives?
At 11:43 PM 1/3/2003 +, Richard Barrett wrote: At 21:03 03/01/2003, Jeff A. Earickson wrote: Question: How to I get searchable archives? Like http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ for my own mailing-list archives? How come this doesn't come as a part of Mailman? The www.mail-archive.com site use the htdig search engine which is available from http://htdig.org and is also included in several Linux distributions. However, that site uses the MHonArc archiving software rather than MM's builtin Pipermail archiver. One approach to integrating builtin-Pipermail-archiver constructed MM archives with htdig is to apply the following patches in the order given to a MM 2.1 build directory: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=661138group_id=103atid=300103 http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=444879group_id=103atid=300103 http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=444884group_id=103atid=300103 My worry about doing this is what happens when I want to upgrade MM afterward? If I have a non-standard installation what kind of nightmare am I setting myself up for down the road? reb -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] upgrade: 2.0.13 to 2.1, searchable archives?
On Friday, January 3, 2003, at 06:39 PM, Phydeaux wrote: My worry about doing this is what happens when I want to upgrade MM afterward? If I have a non-standard installation what kind of nightmare am I setting myself up for down the road? my approach is to not use pipermail. My archives are (will be...) set up using a combination of a custom tool, and mharc, which combines mhonarc and an integrated search engine. (http://www.mhonarc.org/mharc/) that way, each piece (archives and list server) are independent, so you don't have to worry about re-integrating every update. to me, it's cleaner than trying to add stuff to pipermail I'd have to maintain. given my free time, noot a good sitaution. -- Chuq Von Rospach, Architech [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://www.plaidworks.com/chuqui/blog/ But when that last guitar's been packed away You know that I still want to play So just make sure you got it all set to go Before you come for my piano -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Hmm.. trying to get patch 444884 (htdig integration)
I'm getting a blank page (this page has no data) consistently from three different ISPs Is there another source to get the patches from? Thanks in advance, Glenn --- The original portions of this message are the copyright of the author (c)1998-2002 Glenn E. Sieb.ICQ UIN: 300395IRC Nick: Rainbear Religion is for those who do what they are told regardless of what is right. Spirituality is for those who do what is right regardless of what they are told. -- unattributed -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] MM2.1 digest headers
I recently upgraded to 2.1 from 2.0.13. A number of my users are complaining about extra headers being placed in the digests. I'm using the default setting for DEFAULT_DIGEST_PLAIN_KEEP_HEADERS which is: DEFAULT_PLAIN_DIGEST_KEEP_HEADERS = ['message', 'date', 'from', 'subject', 'to', 'cc', 'reply-to', 'organization'] However I'm getting many more headers. Here is an example from a digest that went out today: Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2003 16:41:54 -0800 From: Andrejs Ozolins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Promoting Moultons Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: 00a201c2b343$8f46ae70$95836418@Home References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 8 I'm not asking for Message-ID, References, Content-Type, MIME-Version, or Precedence...where are they coming from? Also, in 2.0.13 the subject for a digest listed the number of messages contained in the digest. Is there a way to turn that back on? alex -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] 2.1 Install Issues
DL On most directories, each file to be installed is enumerated DL and installed within a loop, however, for the icons directory, DL the Makefile seems to rely on wildcard matching. That may not DL be a valid assumption. Could be a GNU Make-ism. Maybe Solaris's make doesn't do wildcarding? (It's been too long since I've been on Solaris and I'm too tired right now to look it up. ;). DL On the line that installs the template subdirectories, the DL 'install-sh -c' line has '-m 644 instead of '-m 664', so that DL may also be a Makefile issue. That's correct for the files inside the template subdirs. DL As for the messages subdirectories, those appear to be created DL with simple calls to mkdir rather than install and they don't DL appear to have permissions being set at all. Actually, both should be created by the mkinstalldirs script in the top level source directory. I'll have to try to find some time to build Mailman on the Solaris box in the SF compile farm. -Barry -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Race condition with summary moderation screen?
DS == David Shaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: DS I just upgraded to 2.1 and noticed an interesting race DS condition with the summary version of the moderation page. DS Take this timeline: DS 1) [EMAIL PROTECTED] sends 3 messages to the list 2) moderator DS visits summary moderation page and sees the 3 messages 3) DS [EMAIL PROTECTED] sends another message to the list 4) DS moderator clicks discard and submits DS The end result is that Mailman discards 4 messages, including DS the latest one that the moderator did not get to see. DS This does not happen with the old-style details version of DS the moderation page. Please submit a SourceForge bug report so this one doesn't get lost. I haven't verified it, but it seems reasonable. I don't have a fix readily available, but if you submit the bug report, I'll fix this one for 2.1.1. Thanks, -Barry -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] problems with MM 2.1
l == ljacobs [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: l I had been running MM 2.0.13 for some time now. I upgraded to l 2.1 on my test system, RH 8 running Postfix 2 and had no l problems. SO I upgraded my production system, RH 7.1 with l Postfix 1.1.11 and am now unable to send messages to the lists. l I have tried running configure with -prefixes that I thought l made sense, and have included the most recent config right l here: ./configure --with-python=/usr/local/bin/python l --exec-prefix=/usr/local/bin/ --with-cgi-gid=apache l --prefix=/home/mailman --with-mail-gid=postfix You probably don't want to have a separate --prefix and --exec-prefix. That just makes your life more complicated and should only be used in special circumstances (if you don't know what those are, you probably don't need it. ;). Try building w/o the --exec-prefix option. -Barry -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Personalization in 2.1
At 16:55 03/01/2003, Bryan Fullerton wrote: On Friday, January 3, 2003, at 11:11 AM, Guillaume Duteil wrote: I am using 2.1b5 and I needed to set OWNERS_CAN_ENABLE_PERSONALIZATION to 1 in /Mailman/Default.py Humm, this is the right setting, but you know you should not be changing Mailman/Defaults.py, right? From Defaults.py: # NEVER make site configuration changes to this file. ALWAYS make them in # mm_cfg.py instead, in the designated area. See the comments in that file # for details. Thanks chaps, I'll have a go at that. Cheers Brian -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Passwords of members UPDATE
The ownership issue is a red-herring. As long as it's group owned by
mailman and it's g+rw you should be fine.
I'm guessing somewhere along the way Python got upgraded and the
status of the crypt libraries changed (either they were there before
and not now, or vice versa). Try setting USE_CRYPT=0 in your
mm_cfg.py file.
A better solution would be to upgrade to MM2.1. It uses sha1 hashing,
which will always be available.
BTW, a debugging tool I use quite often (or the Python literate here),
is to sprinkle the code with lines like:
syslog('debug', 'some value: %s', somevalue)
which puts the output in errors/debug. You may need to add
from Mailman.Logging.Syslog import syslog
at the top of the file, if it isn't already there.
-Barry
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Re: [Mailman-Users] 2.1 Install Issues
Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 02:00:46 -0500 To: David LeVine [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] 2.1 Install Issues From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Barry A. Warsaw) DL On most directories, each file to be installed is enumerated DL and installed within a loop, however, for the icons directory, DL the Makefile seems to rely on wildcard matching. That may not DL be a valid assumption. Could be a GNU Make-ism. Maybe Solaris's make doesn't do wildcarding? (It's been too long since I've been on Solaris and I'm too tired right now to look it up. ;). I think the Solaris make does support wildcarding, perhaps with slightly different syntax...:^) DL On the line that installs the template subdirectories, the DL 'install-sh -c' line has '-m 644 instead of '-m 664', so that DL may also be a Makefile issue. That's correct for the files inside the template subdirs. DL As for the messages subdirectories, those appear to be created DL with simple calls to mkdir rather than install and they don't DL appear to have permissions being set at all. Actually, both should be created by the mkinstalldirs script in the top level source directory. I'll have to try to find some time to build Mailman on the Solaris box in the SF compile farm. Thanks for the time and the support... -Barry David -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
