[Mailman-Users] Two lists: info@domain1.tld and info@domain2.tld
Hi, I want to use Mailman 2.1 for two lists: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] As far as I understand, this is not posible with mailman. Or is there a way to do it (e.g.modify aliases or Mailman List Database?). Has anybody mad experiments with this? If this is not posible, I want to run several Mailmans (e.g. for each Domain one), but not serverall qrunner Jobs. Is it posible to start qrunner from cron like in Mailman 2.0? Best regards Sven -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] odd problems with mailman
Hi there I have 2 problems with mailman. first: when clicking on tend to pending moderator requests I get: snip Bug in Mailman version 2.1 We're sorry, we hit a bug! If you would like to help us identify the problem, please email a copy of this page to the webmaster for this site with a description of what happened. Thanks! Traceback: Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/local/mailman/scripts/driver, line 87, in run_main main() File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admindb.py, line 226, in main num = show_pending_subs(mlist, form) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admindb.py, line 287, in show_pending_subs time, addr, fullname, passwd, digest, lang = mlist.GetRecord(id) ValueError: unpack tuple of wrong size /snip and the 2nd (possibly related) problem: every time when I run check-perms, it finds (and when used with -f, fixes) the private archive files for my lists. for example: directory permissions must be 02775: /usr/local/mailman/archives/private/support/attachments/20030208 the permissions are: drwxrwxr-x 3 mailman mailman 512 Feb 8 11:17 20030208 and it's contents: drwxrwsr-x 2 mailman mailman 512 Feb 8 11:17 cff5ee1f are these permissions correct? any assistance appreciated. thanks --Rob -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Two lists: info@domain1.tld and info@domain2.tld
Am Montag, 10. Februar 2003 11:00 schrieben Sie: Hi, I want to use Mailman 2.1 for two lists: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] As far as I understand, this is not posible with mailman. Well, I've been using Mailman 2.0.x with listname@domain.(tld1|tld2|tld3) so it should be possible to do it for listname@(domain1|domain2).tld too. :-) Or is there a way to do it (e.g.modify aliases or Mailman List Database?). I'm assuming you already set up the list for one domain? Next you should in indeed make sure that your mailserver sends the emails for the list addresses at both domains to the necessary aliases. This will however depend on your mailserver. After you've done that mail should go to the list. However, you might now notice that the list is only working at one address and keeping or bouncing the mail at the other address. To fix this you have to visit mailman/admin/listname/privacy/recipient On that page you will find a box for acceptable_aliases, described as Alias names (regexps) which qualify as explicit to or cc destination names for this list.. Just put in the listaddress at the second domain (or for both domains), in there, and you should be on the go. Hm, think this does not help: I do not want to use ONE list for two domains, but TWO List with the same name before the @. If I create the 1st list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), and then create a 2nd ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), I get an error message that the list allready exists. Sven -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Two lists: info@domain1.tld and info@domain2.tld
10-Feb-03 at 11:14, Sven Anders ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote : I do not want to use ONE list for two domains, but TWO List with the same name before the @. If I create the 1st list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), and then create a 2nd ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), I get an error message that the list allready exists. create another list (info2) - you can alias the user info2 from [EMAIL PROTECTED], and change the list subject header so that it looks like 2 info lists. My solution, personally, would be to avoid the hassle with lists named info, and [EMAIL PROTECTED] or similar, and maybe alias [EMAIL PROTECTED] to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or similar. -- [Simon White. vim/mutt. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Folding@home no log script yet...] If you don't like what is going on in Palestine, or are curious, look: http://www.inminds.com/boycott-israel.html I am not anti-jewish. I am against the Israeli régime headed by Sharon. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Two lists: info@domain1.tld and info@domain2.tld
10-Feb-03 at 11:14, Sven Anders ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote : I do not want to use ONE list for two domains, but TWO List with the same name before the @. If I create the 1st list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), and then create a 2nd ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), I get an error message that the list allready exists. Oopss I should read first before tying to be of help. Sorry my mistake... In this case I would indeed go with Simon White's solution. My apologies, Regards, Guido -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Trapping Out-of-office Messages
Is there a way, or can somebody recommend a technique, to trap/delete Out-of-office messages. They do have a defined syntax (actually several). Thanks! --Warren _|_|_| Warren Hoffman - Organization Improvement Consultant _|_|_| 208 Jackson Blvd., Wilmington, DE 19803 _|_|_| Phone/Fax: 302-658-7508 _|_|_| [EMAIL PROTECTED] _|_|_| http://www.whoffman.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] odd problems with mailman
* fingers ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Bug in Mailman version 2.1 ValueError: unpack tuple of wrong size This has been fixed in mailman 2.1.1 directory permissions must be 02775: /usr/local/mailman/archives/private/support/attachments/20030208 the permissions are: drwxrwxr-x 3 mailman mailman 512 Feb 8 11:17 20030208 and it's contents: drwxrwsr-x 2 mailman mailman 512 Feb 8 11:17 cff5ee1f are these permissions correct? Thats the permissions on my system. drwxrwsr-x3 mailman mailman2 4096 Feb 7 18:27 20030207 $ ls -al 20030207 drwxrwsr-x2 mailman mailman2 4096 Feb 7 18:27 ee4b244b $ ls -al 20030207/ee4b244b/ -rw-rw-r--1 mailman mailman2 1514 Feb 7 18:27 attachment.htm Don't ask about the user and group names Its too painful. -- Matthew Davis http://dogpound.vnet.net/ System halted. There is NOTHING you can do. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Changing subscribe message for individual lists?
Hello, Please CC replies to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - I am not subscribed :) I was wondering if it was possible to change the text in the welcome e-mail sent to users after subscribing, but just for certain lists. I have some lists which are announcement lists and are set to moderator approval required to stop anyone posting except the list manager. However, when you subscribe to theses lists, you still get this in the welcome mail: To post to this list, send your email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Which I dont want users to see for the announce lists but do for the normal lists. Is this possible? Thanks! --ian -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] install question
Can mailman be installed on a virtual host without root access? I don't run my own server, just using a web hosting service. Can't I just put it in my cgi-bin? And, how large is the untarred directory? thanks! -- ** Paul Mozell Webmaster: AMC Boston Chapter [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.amcboston.org -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Two lists: info@domain1.tld and info@domain2.tld
Sven Anders wrote: Hi, I want to use Mailman 2.1 for two lists: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] As far as I understand, this is not posible with mailman. Yes, and no. I've ran 2.0.11n for a long time with this exact setup, and now with 2.1 I'm still doing it. However, I run multiple setups of mailman. I installed mailman for each domain I needed it to manage. While this is a large overhead (of having it installed x-amount of times), it is a lot easier to manage. -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Mailman-Users] newsgroup interface problems
Thanks we have spotted a problem with gate_news not being in cron. I don't know where the mailman error log resides or have access to it but I'm sure Stefan does. We don't get any error emails probably because it isn't running. I assume error emails would go to list admin's email address which includes me, or do you mean the root mail box? Our news server news.annexcafe.com allows anyone to read messages. Thanks again for your help. David -Original Message- From: Ron Jarrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 09 February 2003 19:26 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] newsgroup interface problems At 03:43 PM 2/6/03 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Our mailman interface to a newsgroup and was working fine now it only sends mails to the newsgroup, it has stopped receiving newsgroups posts and sending them out as mails. Both newsgroup and mailman servers have been changed recently which makes investigation difficult. Well, obviously, check the mailman error log. Is the gate_news job still running in your news users cron? Are you getting error emails from it? (Make sure email to that user actually *goes* somewhere people read). Your news server, unless you've otherwise configured mailman, has to allow a random anonymous connection to read all the newsgroups that have a feed set up into mailman. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] moving mailman?
In order to move mailman to a new server..it seems that (assuming your new server has a working mailman config) the only files neccesary to move over are ~\archives\private\ ~\archives\public\ ~\lists\ is this it?? Of course, again, assuming your config is correct, file permissions, etc etc. thx Matt -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Puzzled; Selective no-archive patch.
There is a header you can add to the mail that tells the archives to skip the message. It would be simpler for you to write a small handler that inserts that header into an email that has been marked via the web-admin as No Archive. Good luck - Jon Carnes On Sun, 2003-02-09 at 23:36, Jon Earle wrote: NOTE: I tried to post this to the development list earlier today, but for some reason, I can't seem to post there and the list admin hasn't responded to my inquiry. I figured I'd try this list instead on the assumption that some of the developers may be subscribed to both lists and can perhaps also offer a suggestion as to why I'm not able to post to that list. === Working on a patch to MM 2.1 (easily patches 2.1.1 too), that will selectively not archive messages but am having trouble getting them to not go into the archive. Link to patch is here: http://kronos.honk.org/~jearle/files/noarchive.patch Essentially, I run a list where the members like to email pics and other funnies to each other. This is fine with me, but I'd rather they not go into the archive for obvious reasons. I made a change to the moderation screen to add a checkbox to not archive the particular message, or in the message list screen, to not archive all of them. Obviously, the approval of the moderator would be required to make the noarchive option work. I think I've got the various pieces in place in the admin screen, and I have the message metadata including a 'noarchive' entry. I then theorized that my next step would be to fiddle with Handlers/ToArchive.py (part of the qrunner?). I thought that by adding a check for the 'noarchive' entry in msgdata nr the top of the process method would do the trick, but no. Did a slight mod to Approve.py and still no luck. Not sure what do now and would appreciate any advice given. I've worked with C for a few years, learned Perl last Nov and this is my first foray into Python. Cheers! Jon --- Jon Earle SAVE FARSCAPE http://www.savefarscape.com/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/jonc%40nc.rr.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] mailman-htdig integration patch update
I have posted on sourceforge revisions of these two patches for application to MM 2.1.1. There are no functional changes and the changes is only to stop warnings about offsets in files when the 2.1 versions of the patches are applied Patch #444879: Improved archiver indexcontrol Patch #444884: Mailman/htdig integration The following two precursor patches have not been updated and the 2.1 final versions of them should not generate any warning when being applied to MM 2.1.1: Patch #661138: Corrects HTML template defects Patch #668685: Corrects an error in SystemExit exception handling by $prefix/script/driver -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Changing subscribe message for individual lists?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ian Chilton wrote: Please CC replies to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - I am not subscribed :) You're using mutt, check out the followup_to and lists settings, they can help with this. I was wondering if it was possible to change the text in the welcome e-mail sent to users after subscribing, but just for certain lists. You don't mention if you're using MM 2.0 or 2.1. The answer depends on the version. 2.0 can't (without a patch) and 2.1 can. If you have control over your list server, upgrading is highly recommended. The Mailman crew have done a great job of adding useful features. With 2.1, copy subscribeack.txt from ~mailman/templates/LANG/ to ~mailman/lists/LISTNAME/LANG, replace LISTNAME and LANG as appropriate. Then edit to taste. I patched MM 2.0 for this while I was using it, based on things I learned on this very mailing lists' (searchable) archives. I don't even know much python and it wasn't too difficult. If you end up being stuck with 2.0 for some reason, I can send you the patch I used. Of course, if you have the ability to patch mailman, you should also have the ability to upgrade. :) - -- Todd OpenPGP - KeyID: 0xD654075A | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp What a terrible thing to have lost one's mind. Or not to have a mind at all. How true that is. -- Dan Quayle, speaking to the United Negro College Fund -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: When crypto is outlawed bayl bhgynjf jvyy unir cevinpl. iD8DBQE+R87ruv+09NZUB1oRAgd/AJ9mrA+LHM4abCn1A4eeKy0cLU5WWgCfX6KS Ic5bJ583I7w33HQaYfzN+UY= =+Haq -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Trapping Out-of-office Messages
The archives contain several clever ideas for this. My favorite is to front-end the mailing lists with a procmail script. In the script look for drivel that indicates the response is from a clueless fellow and then redirect it to the admin (me) for a good stern warning note about how-to setup an out of office message! I liked another fellows approach; he already runs all his incoming mail through spam-assassin so he added a few rules to trap these as spam. I have to say that I agree with him that 99.9% of these messages are completely unnecessary. Jon Carnes On Mon, 2003-02-10 at 06:25, Warren Hoffman wrote: Is there a way, or can somebody recommend a technique, to trap/delete Out-of-office messages. They do have a defined syntax (actually several). Thanks! --Warren _|_|_| Warren Hoffman - Organization Improvement Consultant _|_|_| 208 Jackson Blvd., Wilmington, DE 19803 _|_|_| Phone/Fax: 302-658-7508 _|_|_| [EMAIL PROTECTED] _|_|_| http://www.whoffman.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/jonc%40nc.rr.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] moving mailman?
That will indeed get your archives and all the configurations for your list. It miss out on some minor stuff like held requests, but that's trivial stuff. Once you move the lists over, you will need to reset the URL's and Mailing addresses for each list. Failure to do this will make the lists inaccessible and non-functioning. Good Luck on the move. On Mon, 2003-02-10 at 10:55, Matt Kehler wrote: In order to move mailman to a new server..it seems that (assuming your new server has a working mailman config) the only files neccesary to move over are ~\archives\private\ ~\archives\public\ ~\lists\ is this it?? Of course, again, assuming your config is correct, file permissions, etc etc. thx Matt -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/jonc%40nc.rr.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Keeping subscription info in sync across servers
Ian, What mail software are you using? If you are going to build redundancy into your list server you might want to think more about building redundancy into your mail server.. That is more than one mail server that accesses a central LDAP store or similar. A few months back I posted a sol'n that ties mailman 2.0.x into iPlanet Messenger (assuming you have that sort of budget). It should also be possible to plug it into sendmail, qmail or the like running off a central LDAP store.. For example, what I'm geting at is that with iMS you can multiple servers working off the same LDAP store.. it is, of course, a pricey solution. Attempting to keep mailman's backend text files synced between servers is sure to prove tricky.. I don't believe mailman has any built-in redundancy. -morgan On Mon, Feb 10, 2003 at 04:41:32PM +, Ian Chilton wrote: | Hello, | | Please cc replies to [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | I was wondering if there was an easy way to keep subscription info in | sync across multiple list servers. | | What I want to do is setup a backup list server which will still | deliver list mail if the main box is down. So, I only need a single way | replication, i.e all changes are made on the main server and the 2nd | server just has to stay in sync. | | I was thinking an easy way to do this would be to have a function in | mailman which made it automatically sent an e-mail or made a socket | connection to the other server when any options or subscriptions were | changed. | | Is such a thing possible? | | | Thanks! | | --ian | | -- | Mailman-Users mailing list | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users | Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py | Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ | | This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Unsubscribe or change your options at | http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/mjones6%40commnav.com | -- Morgan Jones -- CommNav, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.commnav.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Usenet news gated to list as attachment with v2.1.1
Hi people, I'm new to this list, so please be kind to me... :) I searched the archives of this list back for a few months, but did not find anything on the topic. Last weekend I upgraded from Mailman v2.0.13 to v2.1.1. Almost everything went smoothly, except for this little problem: Whenever a message from a newsgroup gets gated to the list, it is being sent as an attachment. Is this a bug or a feature? When using 2.0.13 the messages were gated as plain text. I'd like to have that behaviour back. Attached you will find: news_onserver.txt the message as is on the newsserver news_gatedtolist.txtthe message as being sent by Mailman Thanks in advance. -- Evert Jan van Ramselaar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Van Ramselaar Info Tech http://www.vanramselaar.nl Path: amstwist00!amsnews01.chello.com!amstwist00.POSTED!support From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (chello support) Newsgroups: chello.nl.announce Subject: Nieuwe portal www.chello.nl (10 februari 2003) Followup-To: chello.nl.support Approved: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: slrn/0.9.6.2 (Linux) Lines: 8 Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 13:33:21 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 212.187.93.151 X-Complaints-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Trace: amstwist00 1044884001 212.187.93.151 (Mon, 10 Feb 2003 14:33:21 MET) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 14:33:21 MET Xref: amsnews01.chello.com chello.nl.announce:781 X-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 14:33:21 MET (amstwist00) Vanaf vandaag is de chello portal in een nieuw jasje gestoken. Zie voor meer informatie http://www.chello.nl -- Met vriendelijke groet, chello, UPC Nederland From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Feb 10 14:36:55 2003 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from ram1.vanramselaar.local (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vanramselaar.nl (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h1ADZRd21705; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 14:35:27 +0100 Path: amstwist00!amsnews01.chello.com!amstwist00.POSTED!support From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (chello support) Newsgroups: chello.nl.announce Followup-To: chello.nl.support Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: slrn/0.9.6.2 (Linux) Lines: 8 Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 13:33:21 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 212.187.93.151 X-Complaints-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Trace: amstwist00 1044884001 212.187.93.151 (Mon, 10 Feb 2003 14:33:21 MET) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 14:33:21 MET Xref: amsnews01.chello.com chello.nl.announce:781 X-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 14:33:21 MET (amstwist00) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [chello-announce] Nieuwe portal www.chello.nl (10 februari 2003) X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: chello.nl.announce mailinglist chello-announce.vanramselaar.nl List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=help List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://mail.vanramselaar.nl/mailman/listinfo/chello-announce, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=subscribe List-Archive: http://ram1.vanramselaar.local/pipermail/chello-announce List-Unsubscribe: http://mail.vanramselaar.nl/mailman/listinfo/chello-announce, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary4424303611563265== Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 479 --===4424303611563265== Vanaf vandaag is de chello portal in een nieuw jasje gestoken. Zie voor meer informatie http://www.chello.nl -- Met vriendelijke groet, chello, UPC Nederland --===4424303611563265== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline ___ Een mirror van de statuspagina is te vinden op http://www.vanramselaar.nl/linemonitor/chellostatus.php ___ chello.nl.announce mailinglist http://mail.vanramselaar.nl/mailman/listinfo/chello-announce Hosted by Van Ramselaar Info Tech http://www.vanramselaar.nl --===4424303611563265==-- -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Keeping subscription info in sync across servers
Hello, Please cc replies to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I was wondering if there was an easy way to keep subscription info in sync across multiple list servers. What I want to do is setup a backup list server which will still deliver list mail if the main box is down. So, I only need a single way replication, i.e all changes are made on the main server and the 2nd server just has to stay in sync. I was thinking an easy way to do this would be to have a function in mailman which made it automatically sent an e-mail or made a socket connection to the other server when any options or subscriptions were changed. Is such a thing possible? Thanks! --ian -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] backing up mailman lists on commercial servers
I rent space on a commercial Web site that uses cpanel for site management. Mailman comes installed and ready to use. Question: In an arrangement like this, where I do not have direct access to installation and related files, how do I back up my mailing list addresses and archive? The mailman FAQ suggests a shell script but I'm unfamiliar with how I would determine the required paths. Also, I would only want to back up my lists. Any help would be appreciated. TIA John Hughes -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Keeping subscription info in sync across servers
At 16:41 10/02/2003, Ian Chilton wrote: Hello, Please cc replies to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I was wondering if there was an easy way to keep subscription info in sync across multiple list servers. What I want to do is setup a backup list server which will still deliver list mail if the main box is down. So, I only need a single way replication, i.e all changes are made on the main server and the 2nd server just has to stay in sync. I was thinking an easy way to do this would be to have a function in mailman which made it automatically sent an e-mail or made a socket connection to the other server when any options or subscriptions were changed. Is such a thing possible? Thanks! --ian Just an idea of how we do things but it may not suit your needs/equipment configuration. Faced with the problem of mailing list server resilience and redundancy we turned to NFS and keep almost all of MM's $prefix subtree (all except the stuff in $exec-prefix) on shared storage. I do have the advantage of a high uptime file server, with all the data security features to act as NFS server for this. I run a live server with a backup server as hot standby, that is, the secondary sits there until the primary server breaks and we initiate the switchover. This involves a minimal manual intervention. Basically we switch the MAC address of the machines known as primary-mailman-server.our.domain and secondary-mailman-server.our.domain in the DHCP config. A brief pause, shutdown the old primary and reboot the erstwhile secondary which now comes up with the primary IP number. A little conditionality in some of the start scripts means that coming up with the primary server IP's number is all that is needed for the new primary server to run as such. A slight pause for the switchover period is OK for us; incoming mail just backs up on the MTA's trying to deliver to the Mailman server until the switchover completes. It is a bit crude but it works; had the internal hard drive on the primary die a few weeks back and switched over with less than 15 minutes interruption in service and no lost mail. The secondary server does not lie fallow. It has its own MX record and I can run test lists on it. I use it (not mounting NFS but using its local hard drive for MM's $prefix tree) for checking out new MM software releases and getting the wrinkles out before upgrading the primary server in the NFS space; the stress when doing a major upgrade to the primary server is much reduced having already done it for real as a rehearsal on the secondary machine first. The secondary is also used for other non-critical tasks that can be suspended if we have to perform a switchover. If you have other ideas for providing low-cost resilience and redundancy for a Mailman server then I would like to hear them. Cheers Richard -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Keeping subscription info in sync acrossservers
On Mon, 2003-02-10 at 08:53, Morgan Jones wrote: Attempting to keep mailman's backend text files synced between servers is sure to prove tricky.. I don't believe mailman has any built-in redundancy. I don't think it's all that tricky, especially for 1 way. On Mon, Feb 10, 2003 at 04:41:32PM +, Ian Chilton wrote: | | I was wondering if there was an easy way to keep subscription info in | sync across multiple list servers. | | What I want to do is setup a backup list server which will still | deliver list mail if the main box is down. So, I only need a single way | replication, i.e all changes are made on the main server and the 2nd | server just has to stay in sync. | | I was thinking an easy way to do this would be to have a function in | mailman which made it automatically sent an e-mail or made a socket | connection to the other server when any options or subscriptions were | changed. | I'm sure you could dig around in Mailman to find a place to hook some sort of trigger for a script, and the people on Mailman-Developers can certainly help you find it. Much easier is to write a simple script that runs from cron. Could be as simple as: #!/bin/bash /usr/local/mailman/bin/list_members listname | mail -s listname update [EMAIL PROTECTED] Then, on the other server, set up an email address that dumps the message to another script. This script (in the language of your choice) should parse the message to make sure it comes from the other server (don't want people from anywhere else screwing with your membership list!), extracts the body of the message, and pipes it to /usr/local/mailman/bin/sync_members listname (or wherever your environment is). You can also set up a web service to do basically the same thing, though the email route might be a little more reliable (because MTAs usually manage to deliver the message, even if the connection is out for a while.) If you're looking for a chance to learn about web services, it would be a great sample project. Lots of ways to make this more sophisticated, if you need to keep track of who's on digest, etc. Hope that helps... Cheers -- John Locke Owner, Freelock, LLC http://freelock.com Just launched: http://teamcheckin.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Error message from the web admin
I just installed mailman 2.1.1 and everything is working except that when I create a new list via the web browser I get the following: Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/local/mailman/scripts/driver, line 87, in run_main main() File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/create.py, line 55, in main process_request(doc, cgidata) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/create.py, line 217, in process_request sys.modules[modname].create(mlist, cgi=1) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MTA/Postfix.py, line 226, in create _update_maps() File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MTA/Postfix.py, line 47, in _update_maps raise RuntimeError, msg % (acmd, status, errstr) RuntimeError: command failed: /usr/sbin/postalias /usr/local/mailman/data/aliases (status: 1, Operation not permitted) However, the list is created and it works fine. Any suggestions? Ashley Horn -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] cron files?
The mailman install that comes with RedHat 7.3 doesn't seem to have any crontab files. what is the proper/preferred way to put these back? thx Matt -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] cron files?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Matt Kehler wrote: The mailman install that comes with RedHat 7.3 doesn't seem to have any crontab files. what is the proper/preferred way to put these back? The gpg signed RedHat 7.3 RPM (and the subsequent update) I have does indeed come with crontab files and they are installed by the rpm's post script, like so: if [ ! -f /var/spool/cron/mailman ]; then crontab -u mailman /var/mailman/cron/crontab.in fi If crontab -l -u mailman doesn't show the right output, just run the crontab command from the rpm output above. - -- Todd OpenPGP - KeyID: 0xD654075A | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp I'm not fat. I am a nutritional overachiever. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: When crypto is outlawed bayl bhgynjf jvyy unir cevinpl. iD8DBQE+R/2Zuv+09NZUB1oRAuNiAKD3sGVyJWEdBVtP9xrkZk1m5h8HtQCg1dsI Tgda+eoH4KHhuXeUVWnCNtw= =5C8c -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Trapping Out-of-office Messages
WH == Warren Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: WH Is there a way, or can somebody recommend a technique, to trap/delete WH Out-of-office messages. They do have a defined syntax (actually several). No, it is generally impossible because there are so many ways to do it, and there are so many bad programmers out there that do it wrong... And many of them repeat the mistakes of the ones who figured it out before... If you have specific patterns to catch, then do it via procmail or some such before handing it off to mailman. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Error: Incorrect padding?
Yesterday we upgraded from Mailman 2.0.x to 2.1.1. All of the lists except for one transfered over flawlessly, but any mail sent to that one particular list causes errors like this to be dumped into ~mailman/logs/error: Feb 10 17:05:20 2003 (453) Uncaught runner exception: Incorrect padding Feb 10 17:05:20 2003 (453) Traceback (most recent call last): File /home/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 105, in _oneloop self._onefile(msg, msgdata) File /home/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 155, in _onefile keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata) File /home/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py, line 130, in _dispose more = self._dopipeline(mlist, msg, msgdata, pipeline) File /home/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py, line 153, in _dopipeline sys.modules[modname].process(mlist, msg, msgdata) File /home/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py, line 82, in process send_digests(mlist, mboxfp) File /home/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py, line 123, in send_digests send_i18n_digests(mlist, mboxfp) File /home/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py, line 295, in send_i18n_dige sts msg = scrubber(mlist, msg) File /home/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/Scrubber.py, line 252, in process payload = part.get_payload(decode=1) File /home/mailman/pythonlib/email/Message.py, line 189, in get_payload return Utils._bdecode(payload) File /home/mailman/pythonlib/email/Utils.py, line 75, in _bdecode value = base64.decodestring(s) File /usr/local/lib/python2.2/base64.py, line 44, in decodestring return binascii.a2b_base64(s) Error: Incorrect padding Feb 10 17:05:20 2003 (453) SHUNTING: 1044925519.00936+54468b31b755be1a7fa62d057b d3f51581aece72 This problem also comes up when the digests are generated. Any suggestions? This is 2.1.1 built from source on Immunix Linux 7 with Postfix and python 2.2. -- Matt Barringer WireX Communications, Inc. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Cc: to cc: weirdness
We've recently upgraded to Mailman2.1 and have noticed that Mailman is now changing our Cc: headers and doing some RFC 2822 non-compliant business with them. The original header might be: Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] when the message comes through to the list, the header has been altered to: cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Can anyone help me out? -- Erik Walum personal [EMAIL PROTECTED] work [EMAIL PROTECTED] 503.780.7492 -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Error message from the web admin
Have you checked the rights on the ~mailman/data/aliases and ~mailman/data/aliases.db files: -rw-rw-r--1 mailman mailman 4210 Feb 1 22:52 aliases -rw-rw-r--1 mailman mailman 12288 Feb 1 22:52 aliases.db On Mon, 2003-02-10 at 13:41, Ashley Horn wrote: I just installed mailman 2.1.1 and everything is working except that when I create a new list via the web browser I get the following: Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/local/mailman/scripts/driver, line 87, in run_main main() File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/create.py, line 55, in main process_request(doc, cgidata) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/create.py, line 217, in process_request sys.modules[modname].create(mlist, cgi=1) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MTA/Postfix.py, line 226, in create _update_maps() File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MTA/Postfix.py, line 47, in _update_maps raise RuntimeError, msg % (acmd, status, errstr) RuntimeError: command failed: /usr/sbin/postalias /usr/local/mailman/data/aliases (status: 1, Operation not permitted) However, the list is created and it works fine. Any suggestions? Ashley Horn -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/jonc%40nc.rr.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Configuring mailman for a future domain name
What you say is correct but won't that put a legacy URL into Default.py whereas if I used the (undocumented?) parameters below, would it build Default.py with the correct URLs and therefore eliminate the necessity to add the entry to mm_cfg.py? I suppose I should just shut-up and try it and see what happens... At 9:23 PM -0500 2/9/03, Matthew Davis wrote: After installation look at the DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST section in Mailman/Defaults.py But as the top of the file says, don't make changes there, make them to mm_cfg.py. So you might want to add this to your mm_cfg.py DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = lists.domain But read on in that file and see if there are anymore option of interest to you. * Paul Kleeberg ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I am installing Mailman on my production machine. I want it to install with the same name as another machine where my lists are currently running with listproc. In other words I am installing it on www.domain but I want the Mailman pages to be known as (and return the name) lists.domain which currently exists on a different box. How do I do this? Do I define it when running configure? I do not see that as an option in the INSTALL file but I see --with-urlhost and --with-mailhost in the configure file. -- Matthew Davis http://dogpound.vnet.net/ Truck Pulls: for people who cannot understand the WWF -- Paul Kleeberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Configuring mailman for a future domain name
* Paul Kleeberg ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: What you say is correct but won't that put a legacy URL into Default.py whereas if I used the (undocumented?) parameters below, would it build Default.py with the correct URLs and therefore eliminate the necessity to add the entry to mm_cfg.py? I suppose I should just shut-up and try it and see what happens... That's correct. By not modifing Defaults.py you put a 'legacy' url in there so its posed to confuse the next admin that takes your place (heaven forbid...). But I believe thoes are there for example purporses, and your not lucky enough to have the 'defaults' work. You can edit Defaults.py, I personally see no harm in it other than it'll break future source patches and maybe you'll forget working syntex's if you mess something up. But that's nothing that can't be solved by refering back to the Defaults.py in the tarball. Take it for what its worth, it was free... -- Matthew Davis http://dogpound.vnet.net/ Interstellar Matter is a Gas -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] install question
* Paul Mozell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Can mailman be installed on a virtual host without root access? I don't run my own server, just using a web hosting service. Can't I just put it in my cgi-bin? There are certain commands that root needs to execute. For example on when you create the mailing list aliases, root needs to rebuild the aliases (at least on sendmail you do, no experience with exim and i just installed postfix so i'm learning it now). Apache conf files need to be modified as well. So its not very possiable to install it without root, but once installed, root isn't needed much. You can always setup a mailman alias file which sendmail reads from ~mailman which would cut down the root intervention. But if someone else out there has successfully installed a non-root mailman installation do let the world know. And, how large is the untarred directory? Stock untarred dirs with no patches/configuration. mailman 2.0.13 [Mon Feb 10 - 22:57:08] (mailman@dogpound ~/mailman-2.0.13) $ du -s -c 2200. 2200total mailman 2.1.1 [Mon Feb 10 - 22:56:30] (mailman2@dogpound ~/mailman-2.1.1) $ du -s -c 18412 . 18412 total -- Matthew Davis http://dogpound.vnet.net/ This is your brain. Postscript on brain your is This. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] backing up mailman lists on commercial servers
If your Hosting company will not do back-ups for you, then you can always use the Web-Admin tool and save the source pages. If you use a Linux workstation (or cygwin on a Windows box) then you can easily automate this task using Links. Good Luck - Jon Carnes On Mon, 2003-02-10 at 12:26, John Hughes wrote: I rent space on a commercial Web site that uses cpanel for site management. Mailman comes installed and ready to use. Question: In an arrangement like this, where I do not have direct access to installation and related files, how do I back up my mailing list addresses and archive? The mailman FAQ suggests a shell script but I'm unfamiliar with how I would determine the required paths. Also, I would only want to back up my lists. Any help would be appreciated. TIA John Hughes -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/jonc%40nc.rr.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] mass subscribe using script or cut/paste?
I have 3,000 emails I need to get into a new Mailman mailing list. Do you think I can cut and paste into the admin membership- management interface? I have no clue what it can handle. I searched the archives but did not find anything similar to my question. The box I am using is remote and I only have ssh access to it along with the web management page of course. I suppose I could use wget, ftp, or maybe scp to get the file to the remote box to use the add_members script. At this time I am not too comfortable and confident doing something like that file transfer. Has anyone pasted that many into the admin membership-management page? How did it work? Thanks, Andy -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] mass subscribe using script or cut/paste?
* Andy Firman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I have 3,000 emails I need to get into a new Mailman mailing list. Do you think I can cut and paste into the admin membership- management interface? I have no clue what it can handle. I searched the archives but did not find anything similar to my question. My guess is it'll take a while to process that large amount of addresses. The box I am using is remote and I only have ssh access to it along with the web management page of course. I suppose I could use wget, ftp, or maybe scp to get the file to the remote box to use the add_members script. At this time I am not too comfortable and confident doing something like that file transfer. This would be the easiest way to accomplish your goal. You could even email that file as an attachment then handle the file on that box. If you need help with the other transfer commands (scp/ftp/wget) I can give pointers there if necessary. Then adding the users would be as easy as # add_members --regular-members-file=textfile listtoaddto -- Matthew Davis http://dogpound.vnet.net/ Book never written: Dog training. by Wille Bite -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] mass subscribe using script or cut/paste?
At 11:08 PM 2/10/2003, Andy Firman wrote: I have 3,000 emails I need to get into a new Mailman mailing list. Do you think I can cut and paste into the admin membership- management interface? I have no clue what it can handle. I searched the archives but did not find anything similar to my question. The box I am using is remote and I only have ssh access to it along with the web management page of course. I suppose I could use wget, ftp, or maybe scp to get the file to the remote box to use the add_members script. At this time I am not too comfortable and confident doing something like that file transfer. Has anyone pasted that many into the admin membership-management page? How did it work? I've not done that many, but Mailman 2.1.1 a file upload option that I used to incorporate a fairly large list of names. It didn't seem to have any problem with the list. For your own sanity, you may want to break the list down into several smaller files, and import them one at a time so you can more easily review the Error subscribing list of addresses. I had the text file set up with address on a separate line in the format of: First Last [EMAIL PROTECTED] Larry Thanks, Andy -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mass Subscription - setting digest as default
T == Todd [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: T Let me preface this by saying that I am *not* a python hacker T nor do I know Mailman all that well... but I was curious. Don't underestimate yourself! Your patch was perfect; now applied to cvs. Thanks, -Barry P.S. Give me a full name for the ACKKNOWLEDGEMENTS file. :) -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] configuring Mailman
JH == Jim Hodson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: JH Hello, I am working on setting up a Mailman mailing list for JH our web site at http://www.jenniferonsunday.com. We are a JH band and already have many people on an exisiting list (done JH manually), which we want to migrate to Mailman. Our site is JH hosted by Webanimotion, and they have Mailman on their server JH for us. Jim, I've been going through some back email, and I came across this message. Talk about interesting coincidences: You guys are from the DC area, and if I'm not mistaken, recently did some work at Recording Arts w/ Marco Delmar? I saw your flier on the wall there a week or so ago, if I'm not mistaken. I've worked with Marco on two projects now, one with the Nancy Dougherty Band, and another just recently with Billy Coulter. Awesome producer, and great guy. Another weird coincidence -- my main band is the Cravin' Dogs, whose last record was called Root Rock Paper Scissors. :) You're also playing many of our haunts. Dang, I see I missed your CD release party at IOTA. Great venue, huh? Hope the show went well. We should definitely hook up musically some time. Okay, back to Mailman... As to your mailing list questions, well, I run the Dog's list and Nancy's list off my own servers, on Mailman of course. So it can definitely be done. Here are some hopefully useful answers. JH We want a very simple mailing list system, and Mailman can do JH a lot more than we need. I'm trying to find out how to best JH configure Mailman for our needs. Here is what we want to do: JH 1. Send e-mail news updates to our list. We do not want users JH to be able to send to the list. Yep, that's how we do it. JH 2. Users subscribe from our JH website. Currently they enter their e-mail address on the JH site, and click Join, which sends the appropriate e-mail. Yep, although most of the joining we see is still us entering email addresses gathered from gigs. JH 3. Users UNsubscribe as well. Yep. JH The problem I've run into seems to revolve around the JH password, and the Welcome E-mail. The Welcome E-mail has a JH lot more information in it than we need. For instance, that JH e-mail tells users that they can post to the list, which I do JH not want them to be able to do. I know I can turn off the JH feature about sending them the Welcome E-mail, but then they JH won't have their password. In Mailman 2.1.x the way to customize the welcome message is to create a directory lists/yourlist/en (assuming English :) and copy templates/subscribeack.txt to this directory. Then edit the file for your specific wording. Mailman will always this specialized template for the English welcome messages. JH Also, when I migrate our current users to our Mailman list, I JH don't want them to know about the migration. However, if they JH don't get a Welcome E-mail, they also will not have a JH password, and will be unable to unsubscribe automatically. In that case, I'd turn on personalization. For the Cravin' Dogs lists, I've disabled monthly password reminders, but I've turned on personalization, so at least people get a message with their options page in every footer. It's probably still a good idea to manually run the reminders once in a while if just to help cull the dead addresses. JH Is there a way to modify the Welcome E-mail (besides just the JH introduction to it)? Is there a way to avoid having to use a JH password to unsubscribe? While not totally avoiding the use of a password, most unsubs won't need them. The easiest instructions are to send a message to yourlist[EMAIL PROTECTED], and then simply reply to the confirmation message. They never need to know their password. JH Thanks for any help you can provide. We really just want a JH simple mailing list to get information to our fans. Hope that helps, -Barry -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] mass subscribe using script or cut/paste?
I've not done that many, but Mailman 2.1.1 a file upload option that I used to incorporate a fairly large list of names. It didn't seem to have any problem with the list. For your own sanity, you may want to break the list down into several smaller files, and import them one at a time so you can more easily review the Error subscribing list of addresses. I had the text file set up with address on a separate line in the format of: First Last [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks for the comments everyone! I just added the subs through the web interface in 6 groups of 500 each. The software didn't even flinch. Very nice. Thanks to the developers of this Mailman software. It is awesome!!! Andy -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Removing To post to this list . . . from confirmation e-mail
I'm trying to set up Mailman to use as a vehicle for distributing a newsletter. I don't want anyone to think they can post messages to the list address. I have figured out how to modify the HTML for the public list pages. How do I remove the To post to this list, send your email to... from the registration confirmation e-mail? -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Solved! (Selective no archive message option)
* Jon Earle ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: http://kronos.honk.org/~jearle/files/mailman-noarchive.patch It's built for v2.1, but applies (with a few offset hunks) against 2.1.1). What this does is allow you to approve a message that has been held for moderation (msg exceeds size limit for example) so it can be delivered, but preventing it from being archived if the noarchive checkbox is checked, thus saving disk space. This would be good for others to have. Submit a patch on sourceforge (http://sf.net/projects/mailman) -- Matthew Davis http://dogpound.vnet.net/ ... Clinton Economics: If 1+2=3 then 4+5=6. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Removing To post to this list . . . fromconfirmation e-mail
On Monday 10 February 2003 22:15, John Hughes wrote: I'm trying to set up Mailman to use as a vehicle for distributing a newsletter. I don't want anyone to think they can post messages to the list address. I have figured out how to modify the HTML for the public list pages. How do I remove the To post to this list, send your email to... from the registration confirmation e-mail? Ooohhh. I know! Ask me. :-) I just spent 2 days setting up a kick-a$$ newsletter for thousands of people. First thing is to edit the html page for the general list info page. Take out the section where it says to post to the list send email here...etc... I think you got that covered. Next edit your footers. Comment out the second line and say something like subscribe/unsubscribe here: and the next line is the main info page where they go to sign up. You do this through the admin pages. Third: Do NOT send welcome messages. If you do they will see a comment on how to post to the list. You don't want that. They will just get a simple conf. message with a number when they sign up. Try it on a test list. You will see what I am talking about. If you want a nice welcome message then I can't help you out there. Fourth: Make it a moderated list AND make it so only members can post. But if you set it up right NOONE will see how to post. But if they do then you will be the moderator and you can kill the post. Fifth: Can't remember...its late. But you will figure it out. Just study the admin pages and read every single part of it and you will lock it down. andy -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
