Re: [Mailman-Users] Unique web interface for all the lists
On Tuesday, March 4, 2003, at 06:27 AM, Jose Antonio Gómez Muñoz wrote: I have a lot of users, and the most of them will subscribe to some diferent lists. I would like a unique web interface with check buttons and a submit button to subscribe in only one time to some different lists. All lists are moderated. Ideas? Is there a application for this? If I understand you correctly, you want one w3 [web] page that lists all mailman mailing lists, with an empty checkbox next to each list. The user would type in their e.mail address at the top of the w3 page and checkmark each list they want to subscribe to, and then click a submit button to subscribe to a bunch of lists all at the same time. What you would need to do is create a separate w3 page that contained a form. Using the checkbox form element, you would assign a mailto: command for each list [eg: if you have a list: [EMAIL PROTECTED], the form would send a subscribe request to the proper subscribe address for that list if a checkbox was filled out]. If you created this form, there are some safety issues to consider: 1) without using javascript, make sure that the form is completely filled in - make sure that the person filling out the form has put their address in the form. 2) make sure all lists are set to 'confirm' when a subscribe request has been made. Otherwise some trouble maker will put their friend's e.mail address on the form, and checkmark all the lists to subscribe his friend to a ton of lists. Mailman has a setting that allows this to not happen - each subscription request, using the 'confirm' setting, is sent back to the requestor asking them to reply to the message to confirm that the user wants to subscribe. If the user replies to the confirm message, then and only then are they subscribed. To create a form like I describe above, I would use PHP [though perl and python would work too - i just use PHP for most of my w3 programming, so i am a bit biased]. I can send you and/or the list a small sample of how I would create the above form, if you're interested. /vjl/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Mailman-Users] Unique web interface for all the lists
I'd like to see that sample PHP code too if you wouldn't mind. :) Jim Hale --- 'The OS Tells The PC What To Do With Itself - Me,1990 --- Visit Our Personal Website at http://hale.dyndns.org, Our Forums at http://haleforum.dyndns.org or Our Photo Galleries at http://halegallery.dyndns.org. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vince LaMonica Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 2:02 AM To: Jose Antonio Gómez Muñoz Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Unique web interface for all the lists On Tuesday, March 4, 2003, at 06:27 AM, Jose Antonio Gómez Muñoz wrote: I have a lot of users, and the most of them will subscribe to some diferent lists. I would like a unique web interface with check buttons and a submit button to subscribe in only one time to some different lists. All lists are moderated. Ideas? Is there a application for this? If I understand you correctly, you want one w3 [web] page that lists all mailman mailing lists, with an empty checkbox next to each list. The user would type in their e.mail address at the top of the w3 page and checkmark each list they want to subscribe to, and then click a submit button to subscribe to a bunch of lists all at the same time. What you would need to do is create a separate w3 page that contained a form. Using the checkbox form element, you would assign a mailto: command for each list [eg: if you have a list: [EMAIL PROTECTED], the form would send a subscribe request to the proper subscribe address for that list if a checkbox was filled out]. If you created this form, there are some safety issues to consider: 1) without using javascript, make sure that the form is completely filled in - make sure that the person filling out the form has put their address in the form. 2) make sure all lists are set to 'confirm' when a subscribe request has been made. Otherwise some trouble maker will put their friend's e.mail address on the form, and checkmark all the lists to subscribe his friend to a ton of lists. Mailman has a setting that allows this to not happen - each subscription request, using the 'confirm' setting, is sent back to the requestor asking them to reply to the message to confirm that the user wants to subscribe. If the user replies to the confirm message, then and only then are they subscribed. To create a form like I describe above, I would use PHP [though perl and python would work too - i just use PHP for most of my w3 programming, so i am a bit biased]. I can send you and/or the list a small sample of how I would create the above form, if you're interested. /vjl/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/jim-ml2%40halemail. dyndns.org -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and home pages
On Tue, 4 Mar 2003, Brian W. Kinne wrote: Greetings; This may be more apache related, but am hoping someone else has already succeeded at this. I'm trying to set up mailman so that the listinfo page is the default homepage for the virtual server. The closest I've come is displaying listinfo as a binary. I'm running redhat 8, apache 2.0.40, and mailman 2.1.1. One way is a redirect. goto your ServerRoot as defined in httpd.conf create an index.html containing something like html META HTTP-EQUIV=refresh CONTENT=1;URL=http://lists.domain/mailman/admin/; /html =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- generated by /dev/dave -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= David SternUniversity of Maryland Institute for Advanced Computer Studies -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Mailman hosting requirements
Hello, I know this is one of those questions where the real answer is it depends. However, I will ask it anyway, in case someone has done something similar enough. I have been running two small lists with Mailman, several hundred users, and average of 2 messages a day per list. The impact has really been minimal on my Linux machine. Now I have been asked to help with a proposal to set up a server dedicated to running Mailman for 50-100 lists. They would all probably have an average of 2-300 users, probably at most 5 messages per day on average. Should I propose a modern machine (Intel-based, 2+ GHz, 512+ MB RAM, 40+ GB storage)? Or if I suggested a used machine (3-400 MHz, upgrade RAM to at least 256 MB, upgrade disk to 40+ GB) at a cost of around $400 or less, would that be foolish? Thanks. -- John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman hosting requirements
If all the lists are similar to yours then that setup would work fine. If the lists are going to be more like this one (with a lot of messages per day) then you should go with at least a 600Mhz box, and go for the 512Mb RAM so that you can run some Spam filtering on the box as well. Good Luck - Jon Carnes On Wed, 2003-03-05 at 08:36, John DeCarlo wrote: Hello, I know this is one of those questions where the real answer is it depends. However, I will ask it anyway, in case someone has done something similar enough. I have been running two small lists with Mailman, several hundred users, and average of 2 messages a day per list. The impact has really been minimal on my Linux machine. Now I have been asked to help with a proposal to set up a server dedicated to running Mailman for 50-100 lists. They would all probably have an average of 2-300 users, probably at most 5 messages per day on average. Should I propose a modern machine (Intel-based, 2+ GHz, 512+ MB RAM, 40+ GB storage)? Or if I suggested a used machine (3-400 MHz, upgrade RAM to at least 256 MB, upgrade disk to 40+ GB) at a cost of around $400 or less, would that be foolish? Thanks. -- John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/jonc%40nc.rr.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] How do I ...
I am using MailMan 2.06. How can I change the text messages sent with a rejected post, non-member posts, etc. Where is the code that produces these messages? What is the process to implement the changes? thanks, Paul L. Schumacher Winona State University Computer Science Department -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] restricted unsubscribe not working with 2.1.1
I have a basic fresh install of 2.1.1. I have a list, and under privacy: Is the list moderator's approval required for unsubscription requests? (No is recommended) - YES I then subscribe a test email address, verify it's listed under membership management. I use the web interface to initiate an unsubscribe request for said address. A confirmation email is sent to the test address, and I paste the unsubscribe url into my web browser and confirm the unsubscription. The request is processed, and the email address is no longer listed under member management. No email was sent to a moderator or administrator for approval. As such, restricted unsubscribe does not appear to function. I checked the archives saw nobody else with the problem. Am I doing something wrong, am I the first person to actually try and use this feature, or is some moon phase causing weird problems that're specific to my site? Please CC replies, and thanks for listening. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Changing list name - any scripts or utilities?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Heather J. Lubinsky wrote: Has anyone written a script that will go through and change a name in the archives (ie look for a certain string like a link to the information page) and change it to the new name. Wouldn't running ~mailman/bin/arch to recreate the archives from the lists mbox work? The mbox file should be in ~mailman/archives/private/listname.mbox - -- Todd OpenPGP - KeyID: 0xD654075A | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp If you know the reason for the rule, know you are breaking it, and know why the rule does not apply, go ahead and break it. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: When crypto is outlawed bayl bhgynjf jvyy unir cevinpl. iD8DBQE+Zkpvuv+09NZUB1oRAp7OAKDQGwGGedFdGuSOtRCRjJSNd8dOCgCfaBFm X5Dfb9SGkWnbAXefVysyWeE= =2Kd5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and home pages
On Wed, 5 Mar 2003, Dave Stern - Former Rocket Scientist wrote: } One way is a redirect. } goto your ServerRoot as defined in httpd.conf } create an index.html containing something like } } html } META HTTP-EQUIV=refresh CONTENT=1;URL=http://lists.domain/mailman/admin/; } /html Even better would be to use something like this in your httpd.conf file: Redirect permanent /index.html http://www.domain.com/mailman/listinfo/ /vjl/ -- Vince LaMonica UC Irvine, School of Social Ecology W3 Developer * 116 Social Ecology I, Irvine, CA 92697 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.seweb.uci.edu/techsupport Microsoft asks you where you want to go. UNIX gets you there. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] log file for sent digests
Does anyone know what has replaced the logs/digest file in version 2.1? In other words, how do I see when and what number of a digest has been sent for a list in v2.1? -Rich -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Changing list name - any scripts or utilities?
On Wed, 2003-03-05 at 14:05, Todd wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Heather J. Lubinsky wrote: Has anyone written a script that will go through and change a name in the archives (ie look for a certain string like a link to the information page) and change it to the new name. Wouldn't running ~mailman/bin/arch to recreate the archives from the lists mbox work? The mbox file should be in ~mailman/archives/private/listname.mbox That should work, although you would still have the problem that list archive links referenced from Google and other web pages would be messed up. I'd consider adding RewriteRule's to the web server to force all references to the old lists to switch to the new list name. --Jeremy -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Error: You are not authorized to create new mailing lists
Just installed Mailman 2.1.1 and get the following error when trying to create a new list. Error: You are not authorized to create new mailing lists The authentication password that I'm using is the same one as let's me administer mailman itself. I've seen nothing in the FAQ that covers this, and I'm sure I've done something silly. Any clues? Sean -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Changing list name - any scripts or utilities?
The only thing it doesn't seem to change is the more info on this list link I don't have any problems with google and such because everything is private and there are no links. Anyone have any ideas how to change the more info on this list link other than edited EVERY html archive file? Heather - Original Message - From: Jeremy Portzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mailman-users [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 12:11 PM Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Changing list name - any scripts or utilities? On Wed, 2003-03-05 at 14:05, Todd wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Heather J. Lubinsky wrote: Has anyone written a script that will go through and change a name in the archives (ie look for a certain string like a link to the information page) and change it to the new name. Wouldn't running ~mailman/bin/arch to recreate the archives from the lists mbox work? The mbox file should be in ~mailman/archives/private/listname.mbox That should work, although you would still have the problem that list archive links referenced from Google and other web pages would be messed up. I'd consider adding RewriteRule's to the web server to force all references to the old lists to switch to the new list name. --Jeremy -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/heather%40pcgal.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Changing list name - any scripts or utilities?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Heather J. Lubinsky wrote: The only thing it doesn't seem to change is the more info on this list link I just tried this and it worked fine for me. I'll detail the steps I took and perhaps you'll notice something you have done differently that would account for the different behavior you're getting. $ ~mailman/bin/newlist newname [EMAIL PROTECTED] password $ cd ~mailman/archives/private $ cp oldname.mbox/oldname.mbox newname.mbox/newname.mbox $ ~mailman/bin/arch newname I then checked the list archive page and the link appears to be correct. Anyone have any ideas how to change the more info on this list link other than edited EVERY html archive file? Even this wouldn't be a big deal. You could use a quick perl command to do this: $ cd ~mailman/archives/private/newname $ perl -pi -e 's|listinfo/oldname|listinfo/newname|g' `find . -name '*.html'` I don't know though if you do this whether or not subsequent archives will get created right or not. Something like the method above would be better. Of course, it would be handy to wrap all of this into a quick script to rename a list. Surely someone else has already done this. Anyone have a pointer to the archives where this might have already been answered? :) - -- Todd OpenPGP - KeyID: 0xD654075A | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp Relying on government to protect your privacy is like asking a peeping tom to install your window blinds. -- John Barlow, co-founder of EFF -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: When crypto is outlawed bayl bhgynjf jvyy unir cevinpl. iD8DBQE+ZnSjuv+09NZUB1oRAkDaAKC6YcabX1KE/T2FdqOmIiLt4kiuuQCfZRHo GAk3GT6/0Z6YALqsGFzRU6o= =zQIO -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Installing Mailman with EIMS Mail Server - OS X
I'm a UNIX newbie so please go easy on me ... I have installed Mailman and it is running. Likewise - I was able to get SendMail turned off and have EIMS now running on my OS X machine (10.2.4). Can anyone give me a quick hint as to how I get the two of these products to communicate with each other on the same server? I presume that I will need to route mail from EIMS to Mailman - but what is the destination IP/Port? Likewise - MailMan is not sending messages out so I presume it needs to connect to EIMS somehow. Thanks for your help! Dean -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Installing Mailman with EIMS Mail Server - OS X
I've never heard of EIMS but if it is Sendmail compliant then it should work with Mailman. Check to make sure that EIMS answers an SMTP call to localhost: telnet localhost 25 If that command just stares back at your blankly and doesn't respond, then your MTA (EIMS) is not listening on localhost for mail delivery. If it responds back then you might be in good shape. Now look for how to setup Aliases in EIMS, specifically Aliases that will run an executable. EIMS will need to know that when mail for [EMAIL PROTECTED] comes in, that it needs to be delivered to the Mailman wrapper program. Aside: when you create a list using the ~mailman/bin/newlist command, it will print out a list of aliases that need to be setup in your MTA. If that is working, then you need to make sure that Mailman is setup correctly to interpret what system Group ID EIMS is running as (some MTA's run as root, some as mail, others don't use a GID). Mailman has some built in security that checks the GID for anyone calling the wrapper program. The wrapper executable will only run if it is being run by someone (or something) with the proper Group ID. If this is a problem you will usually find an error in the MTA's log files indicating that wrapper refused to run and gave an error that the GID was incorrect. Hope that shines some light onto your quest. Good Luck - Jon Carnes - Original Message - From: Dean Suhr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mailman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 8:53 PM Subject: [Mailman-Users] Installing Mailman with EIMS Mail Server - OS X I'm a UNIX newbie so please go easy on me ... I have installed Mailman and it is running. Likewise - I was able to get SendMail turned off and have EIMS now running on my OS X machine (10.2.4). Can anyone give me a quick hint as to how I get the two of these products to communicate with each other on the same server? I presume that I will need to route mail from EIMS to Mailman - but what is the destination IP/Port? Likewise - MailMan is not sending messages out so I presume it needs to connect to EIMS somehow. Thanks for your help! Dean -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/jonc%40nc.rr.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
