[Mailman-Users] Upgraded to 2.1.2, old lists work, new do not
The question is mainly in the subject, but I will re-say it. The group I am with has a dedicated server that comes with Mailman, version 2.0.3. I downloaded 2.1.2 and installed it to the directory that 2.0.3 was in. Install went fine. When I go to the control panel for the pre-2.1.2 lists everything works. However, when I go to the control panel for the new lists I made I get page can not be displayed errors and the links are all screwed up. Instead of being: mydomain.com/mailman/whatever, I get servername.hostingcompany.com/mailman/whatever. Is there a config file we can change that with? Scott -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Pending requests not being sent out.
Hello, I recently let my debian-sarge machine upgrade mailman to 2.1.2-2. I did most of the manual stuff that was required to move from 2.0 to 2.1 and the lists seem to be working fine. The one problem that I just noticed is that I'm no longer getting the pending moderation requests either by e-mail or in the web interface. I see the held messages in the data directory: galileo:/var/lib/mailman# ls -l data total 3280 -rw-r-1 root list 13 Mar 25 2002 adm.pw -rw-rw-r--1 list list 1658521 Jul 6 18:00 heldmsg-test-2.pck -rw-rw-r--1 list list 1658521 Jul 6 18:14 heldmsg-test-3.pck -rw-rw-r--1 root list 10 Jun 27 10:49 last_mailman_version -rw-rw1 list list6 Jul 6 17:54 master-qrunner.pid -rw-rw1 list list 629 Jul 6 18:14 pending.pck -rw-r--r--1 root list14110 Jun 12 19:11 sitelist.cfg and I also see files in qfiles/shunt galileo:/var/lib/mailman# ls -l qfiles/shunt/ total 1628 -rw-rw1 list list 465 Jul 6 18:14 1057527595.853397+c4a366a03d157ce69ec8c6857f88ec45c18eddc7.db -rw-rw1 list list 1658523 Jul 6 18:14 1057527595.853397+c4a366a03d157ce69ec8c6857f88ec45c18eddc7.pck I'm running mailman 2.1.2-2 on debian-sarge x86. The MTA is qmail, which complicates things further... I've got the following aliases setup for this test list: .qmail-test .qmail-test-admin .qmail-test-bounces .qmail-test-confirm .qmail-test-join .qmail-test-leave .qmail-test-owner .qmail-test-request .qmail-test-subscribe .qmail-test-unsubscribe which were made by the script in the documentation. Mail to the list works fine, but if it's held for approval I never get the approval message. any ideas would be appreciated. thanks mh -- Martin Hicks || [EMAIL PROTECTED] || PGP/GnuPG: 0x4C7F2BEE plato up 25 days, 22:16, 17 users, load average: 0.54, 0.39, 0.30 There are 10 different kinds of people in the world: those who understand binary and those who don't. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] So far, I'm very disappointed with Mailman
S == SysAdmin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: S Anyone have a better mailing list tool than Mailman that you can S recommend? I'd like to have something that I don't have to babysit so S much. As much as I hate to do it, I might just have to go back to S Majordomo (it has much better documentation, too). Sigh. I don't baby sit my Mailman. Ever. It just runs and runs. It was trivial to set up (using the FreeBSD ports for both Mailman and Postfix). Lyris was also that way, but it is WY expensive and really not worth the money compared with what you can get with Mailman, IMO. But if you're having trouble setting it up, then perhaps Lyris is worth a look... -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Pending requests not being sent out.
I meant to mention that I also thought I'd try to unshunt the messages, and I got the following. I was thinking that maybe I'm missing a config file option somewhere galileo:/var/lib/mailman/bin# ./unshunt galileo:/var/lib/mailman/bin# Jul 06 18:00:26 2003 (14459) Uncaught runner exception: __init__() got an unexpected keyword argument 'errors' Jul 06 18:00:26 2003 (14459) Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 105, in _oneloop self._onefile(msg, msgdata) File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 155, in _onefile keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata) File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py, line 130, in _dispose more = self._dopipeline(mlist, msg, msgdata, pipeline) File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py, line 153, in _dopipeline sys.modules[modname].process(mlist, msg, msgdata) File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/Hold.py, line 181, in process MessageTooBig(bodylen, mlist.max_message_size)) File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/Hold.py, line 236, in hold_for_approval nmsg = Message.UserNotification(sender, adminaddr, subject, text, lang) File /var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Message.py, line 206, in __init__ errors='replace') TypeError: __init__() got an unexpected keyword argument 'errors' Jul 06 18:00:26 2003 (14459) SHUNTING: 1057266419.6515059+023844ebfc7fbd4d7e419c1d5cbe8c16f73c7717 Jul 06 18:00:26 2003 (14459) lost data files for filebase: 1057416089.232456+3cf8b750d17f79a8e2a01c17b859495cce1f3b1f Jul 06 18:00:27 2003 (14459) Uncaught runner exception: __init__() got an unexpected keyword argument 'errors' Jul 06 18:00:27 2003 (14459) Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 105, in _oneloop self._onefile(msg, msgdata) File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 155, in _onefile keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata) File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py, line 130, in _dispose more = self._dopipeline(mlist, msg, msgdata, pipeline) File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py, line 153, in _dopipeline sys.modules[modname].process(mlist, msg, msgdata) File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/Hold.py, line 181, in process MessageTooBig(bodylen, mlist.max_message_size)) File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/Hold.py, line 236, in hold_for_approval nmsg = Message.UserNotification(sender, adminaddr, subject, text, lang) File /var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Message.py, line 206, in __init__ errors='replace') TypeError: __init__() got an unexpected keyword argument 'errors' Jul 06 18:00:27 2003 (14459) SHUNTING: 1057527595.853397+16a2d336f846ef17e1786ce37e94c51d54d0eb3e thanks mh -- Martin Hicks || [EMAIL PROTECTED] || PGP/GnuPG: 0x4C7F2BEE plato up 26 days, 1:50, 16 users, load average: 0.12, 0.07, 0.20 Beer: So much more than just a breakfast drink. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] 2 Questions
Thanks so much for your reply - that fixed my url problem wonderfully. Not being much of a Linux guru i didn't really want to patch and hack every new version available, MM works now, and i don't really want to go breaking it, which is what is likely to happen if i start trying to upgrade it etc (it lives at a remote site also). Sendmail is also a relay for a couple of other machines on the network. I just thought if sendmail could do something as useful as this, or if MM could write to the alias file then we would have a user friendly system, but if we cant then i will get a test machine going and try your method or get postfix working. I want to keep it as simple as possible. To me it seems like, if MM can write to an email and send the new alias entries, surely it could append a few lines to the aliases file and run the newalias command? Maybe this is a security concern? So maybe this could be an at your own risk additional module type thing - seems to be a fairly massive lacking in MM in my opinion. Means that you MUST have a system admin handy to create new lists, to ammend the aliases file Thanks so much for your help Pete Richard Barrett [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Peter Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] fo.co.ukcc: Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] 2 Questions 04/07/2003 02:43 AM At 02:35 03/07/2003, Peter Russell wrote: 1. When i setup the mailman box on the private network i used the private IP at the hostname etc - now i have gone back in and replaced everywqhere i can find with the FQDN You should only have had to change, in mm_cfg.py, the applicable MM config variables described in Defaults.py. Typically something like what follows, at the end of your mm_cfg.py, will do the trick: DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'your.mailhostname.tld' DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'your.webhostname.tld' VIRTUAL_HOSTS.clear() add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST) Having done that, the $prefix/bin/withlist script $prefix/bin/fix_url.py is your friend. Just run fix_url.py to get its usage. If you are using the MM pipermail archiver with HTML archives, you might also need to run $prefix/bin/arch if there is archived email with attachments that have been extracted with links to the attachments left in the email. These links seem to have the web_page_url of the list concerned at the time the email was added to the archive backed in. Running arch rebuilds these links. - but still in responses to mailman-request the original private IP appears - see below - where exactly can i change this? The results of your email command are provided below. Attached is your original message. - Results: help Help for Mailman mailing list: This is email command help for version 2.1 of the Mailman list manager. The following describes commands you can send to get information about and control your subscription to Mailman lists at this site. A command can be in the subject line or in the body of the message. Note that much of the following can also be accomplished via the World Wide Web, at: http://10.1.10.224/mailman/listinfo/mailman 2. IS there a way of using the postfix style auto generated and update aliases with sendmail? I have postfix on my test machine and it works a treat, but i can see no option of doing this with sendmail. You could take a look at $MMbuild/contrib/mm-handler which is a Sendmail mailer inplemented in Perl which obviates the need for maintaining the list aliases but subject to some fairly serious constraints. There is a Python implementation of a Sendmail mailer with the same constraints as mm_mailer (which are basically Sendmail constraints) but which is more closely integrated with MM and which, I believe, is a more robust solution; being the author of it I would think that. See: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailaid=644810group_id=103atid=300103 For preference you should use MM 2.1.2 and download the
RE: [Mailman-Users] So far, I'm very disappointed with Mailman
:S Anyone have a better mailing list tool than Mailman that you can :S recommend? I'd like to have something that I don't have to babysit so :S much. As much as I hate to do it, I might just have to go back to :S Majordomo (it has much better documentation, too). Sigh. Is it possible your needs might be better met with an outsourced mailing list solution? While we have the in-house expertise to manage Mailman, my cost analyses have demonstrated this is not a good use of our limited programming time. Perhaps you can find a provider who offers Mailman at a reasonable rate. I tested Lyris for a year (outsourced solution, from Sparklist) and I was unimpressed. Karen G. Schneider -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Install question
Hi List, I have RedHat9, Postfix 2.0.13, and Mailman 2.1.2 ... I've installed it per all the readme's and I can send mail to the list and receive mail from the list. However ! My server is listx.somedom.tld and all of my lists [ for now ] will be [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... There are A and MX records pointing at this server and they resolve to listx.somedom.tld ... My problem is that Mailman always responds as and provides a return address as listname [ or command name ] @ somedom.tld ... It totally ignores the listx part of the address ... I configured it in the mm_cfg.py properly for both the default_url_host and default_email host and it generates the links properly in the emails BUT the return address is always wrong ! Help ! It's got to be something simple I'm sure ;-) TIA --Ed World-Class Web Hosting and Development http://www.easent.net -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Permissions weirdness?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I've got postfix/mailman set up on Solaris 9 (after working through the python issues that related to that), and when I try to create a list, I get this: Bug in Mailman version 2.1.2 We're sorry, we hit a bug! If you would like to help us identify the problem, please email a copy of this page to the webmaster for this site with a description of what happened. Thanks! Traceback: Traceback (most recent call last): ~ File /usr/local/mailman/scripts/driver, line 87, in run_main ~main() ~ File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/create.py, line 55, in main ~process_request(doc, cgidata) ~ File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/create.py, line 217, in process_request ~sys.modules[modname].create(mlist, cgi=1) ~ File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MTA/Postfix.py, line 232, in create ~_update_maps() ~ File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MTA/Postfix.py, line 60, in _update_maps ~raise RuntimeError, msg % (vcmd, status, errstr) RuntimeError: command failed: /usr/sbin/postmap /usr/local/mailman/data/virtual-mailman (status: 1, Not owner) Now, if I setuid root the postfix stuff, everything is peachy, but this isn't something I'm particularly keen on doing, for obvious reasons. I compiled mailman with --with-mail-gid set to the postfix gid, but the master postfix process runs as root. Can someone tell me what I screwed up here? Do I need to rebuild with - --with-mail-gid set to 0? that doesn't sound like something I want to do. Any help is muchly appreciated. - -Ian -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (MingW32) iD8DBQE/CQTMRGycTB/It0gRApExAKDp4d+5XGj7bM5O2YdDwlYWiGIBIACgsfn4 4tj7fobyWgY4alSJRqNRee8= =7nAE -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
