[Mailman-Users] mailman 2.1.1 - 2.1.2
Hi, I have modified quite a bit of mailman, especially templates and added CSS support within HTML pages. I was wondering if I upgraded from mailman 2.1.1 to 2.1.2, what actually changes, and will my site get messed up, even just a little. This is an live server running for a large customer. I know I can (and should) test it on another server first, but I wanted other peoples experiences first. Thanks, Anthony Carter -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman 2.1.1 - 2.1.2
On Tuesday, July 22, 2003, at 07:52 AM, CARTER Anthony wrote: Hi, I have modified quite a bit of mailman, especially templates and added CSS support within HTML pages. I was wondering if I upgraded from mailman 2.1.1 to 2.1.2, what actually changes, and will my site get messed up, even just a little. In general upgrading from 2.1.1 to 2.1.2 should be pain free. If you have patched your 2.1.1 installation then you need to check if there are revised version of the patches for 2.1.2 and use them instead. You will have problems if you have edited stuff in the wrong places. For instance, if you have edited $prefix/Mailman/Defaults.py instead of putting site-specific changes in $prefix/Mailman/mm_cfg.py you will find those changes are lost. You can recover this situation by moving your changes into mm_cfg.py before doing the upgrade. On the templates front, if you have been editing template files in $prefix/templates/language directories, instead of putting your revised versions in $prefix/templates/site/language directories, you will have problems. The files under $prefix/templates are replaced during the upgrade. You can recover this situation by moving your revised files under $prefix/templates/site before doing the upgrade. This is an live server running for a large customer. I know I can (and should) test it on another server first, but I wanted other peoples experiences first. Thanks, Anthony Carter -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] After installing mailman under Gentoo linux,I get...
Are you using the alias files autogenerated for postfix?
I had to chown the {MAILMAN ROOT}/data/aliases and {MAILMAN
ROOT}data/aliases.db files to nobody.nobody and everything seems to work
ok.
On a side note, the /etc/mail/aliases seems to take precedence over the
mailman aliases, so if you need to temporarily divert mail you don't need
to edit the auto-generated aliases file.
I did follow all the instructions in the README.gentoo.gz document, but
still get the following error...
What did I miss?
Greetings,
Evert Meulie
http://evert.meulie.net/ * email : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
===This
is the Postfix program at host linux.meulie.net.
I'm sorry to have to inform you that the message returned
below could not be delivered to one or more destinations.
For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster
If you do so, please include this problem report. You can delete your own
text from the message returned below.
The Postfix program
[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Command died with status 2:
/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman request mailman. Command output:
Group
mismatch error. Mailman expected the mail wrapper script to be
executed
as
group daemon, but the system's mail server executed the mail script
as
group nobody. Try tweaking the mail server to run the script as
group
daemon, or re-run configure, providing the command line option
`--with-mail-gid=nobody'.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Path info. No list -2- error
Richard Barrett writes: These files are actually created from the template file $prefix/templates/en/htdig_conf.txt If that file has been corrupted then all per-list htdig conf files subsequently created would also be damaged. That file is OK. I wondered what the 5 lists with good htdig conf files might have in common and decided to compare list creation dates with the date of mailman upgrade (Jun 1): these 5 lists were created or recreated after the upgrade! I wrote before that I tried the same procedure with 2 other lists (one old, the other created recently) and again search pages started to work. and looked more closely now at this 'created recently' list: it was, actually, created *before* the upgrade. I've upgraded mailman umpteen times and usually without any problems, but it looks to me like the problem was caused by a glitch during my installation of mailman/htdig under 2.1.2, in that older lists have retained htdig conf files from 2.1.1 release. Does it sound right? Thanks much for your help! Kaja -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] How to show name in the subscriber list mailman2.1.2 ?
Rob, Did you try ./list_members -a listname? This is just another command line script, used by humans or their scripts, but which is not used by Mailman AFAIK. I have to admit I don't know exactly what you mean by gone to one of my mailing lists. It sounds like maybe you want to change the web interface or something else? Rob Brandt wrote: John; This interests me too; thanks for this. But how do you make it work? I've copied your file into the /bin directory and renamed it as list_members, then gone to one of my mailing lists to view the member list, but it still only lists the member's email address. I suspect that I have to modify another script somewhere, but where? Rob -- John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: How to show name in the subscriber listmailman 2.1.2 ?
Paul, 1) The instructions are wrong, as you noticed. The only difference between -a/--all and nothing is the full name of the user being included and the email address in . The regular/digest and nomail option are displayed either way. I suppose if there are no full names input (say you uploaded the list with just email addresses), it may well output the same either way. 2) I don't know the difference between commaaddr and formataddr, but it works fine for me with commaaddr. Paul H Byerly wrote: John DeCarlo wrote: My Python programming skills are crude and self taught. However, I modified list_members to include more information by default, as well as adding a -a option to list the full name of the user. I have attached it here. I keep it a separate name so that it doesn't get overwritten when I upgrade. Maybe someone with more time and skill than I can use some of this to upgrade Mailman. Feel free to use it as you wish. CLOCHARD Nicolas wrote: Got some errors when I ran it. Changed commaaddr to formataddr in three places is now it seems to work, although I get the same output with and without the -a switch. Is that a version change issue? (I'm 2.1.2). I especially like the fact that bounce errors show up, very nice. -- John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Path info. No list -2- error
On Tuesday, July 22, 2003, at 01:12 PM, Kaja P. Christiansen wrote: Richard Barrett writes: These files are actually created from the template file $prefix/templates/en/htdig_conf.txt If that file has been corrupted then all per-list htdig conf files subsequently created would also be damaged. That file is OK. I wondered what the 5 lists with good htdig conf files might have in common and decided to compare list creation dates with the date of mailman upgrade (Jun 1): these 5 lists were created or recreated after the upgrade! I wrote before that I tried the same procedure with 2 other lists (one old, the other created recently) and again search pages started to work. and looked more closely now at this 'created recently' list: it was, actually, created *before* the upgrade. I've upgraded mailman umpteen times and usually without any problems, but it looks to me like the problem was caused by a glitch during my installation of mailman/htdig under 2.1.2, in that older lists have retained htdig conf files from 2.1.1 release. Does it sound right? As I said, I have not come across this problem before with 2.1.2 or with earlier releases. As long as your list searches are now working and the per-list htdig conf file for any new lists are created correctly I guess the history does not matter. Thanks much for your help! I am pleased the problem appears to have been sorted out for you. Richard -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] passwords, confirmation emails,clunky web interfaces, and my grandmother
Dear All, I'm trying to run a simple mailing list so that people can sign up to receive news related to my career as a musician. I would like it to be simple enough that my grandmother could sign up for it if she wanted to. Right now, it is a mess - the very first person who signed up, who was quite computer literate, made the comment that was a lot of emails!! So here is what I want: = When the user is asked to confirm a subscription, the confirmation message is a five page essay in legalese. It should just say to confirm your subscription, please reply to this message or else _click here_. How do I change it? The admin person at my web host did not know of a way. = After the user is confirmed, there is ANOTHER essay, longer than the first, detailing the web pages and passwords and all sorts of rediculous options they will need to remember in order to get one email once every two months about my music. How do I change that message? = How do I make it so users don't need a password to subscribe/unsubscribe? Or, maybe I can force the computer to assign them all the same password, even when I sign them up? Again, my web admin didn't know of a way. Ideally, a person should be able to go to my website, type in their email address, hit subscribe, confirm by replying to one simple email, and then receive the messages I send them; and then if they want off, they just click a link in any one of those emails. No passwords, no options - just a mailing list, for goodness sake! I hope that's not too much to ask. Keep in mind when you reply that I'm a musician and not a unix guru. Regards, David Hunt http://dnotes.net/ _ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Use of Optional Name Field on 2.1.2
Sorry, if this has been discussed before. I see that I can add a new user singly with an optional name field, but I can not see where it can be done with the mass add function. Is there a way to parse the email address, optional names on a mass add? Thanx, Chuck -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Pine file
Hi I installed the mailman for a big server in my university. the mail server of de university has 1800 accounts. I want to install an imap server with squirrelmail because this have others features and it is posible access with pine. My users use webmail and pine simulteneously. Is posible convert the INBOX, SENT and TRASH directories to standart mail format !?? or to use pine for access the mailman server !? Thanks you. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] please help - big problems
dear mailman-users, i thought mailman is a real stable mailing-list software. though, i switched all the lists of my users from majordomo to mailman caused of security-reasons. now, i do have 2 big problems: 1st - some mails (i do not really found out, wich ones, but i think they are html-mails) of users with big lists seems to irritate mailman, so that mailman don't send any mail, also the mails of the other lists are not sent 2nd - two mailing lists crashed completely, when i try to access them via web i get an error message. cron sends me this one: raceback (most recent call last): File /mailman/cron/senddigests, line 65, in ? main() File /mailman/cron/senddigests, line 40, in main mlist = MailList.MailList(listname, lock=0) File /mailman/Mailman/MailList.py, line 79, in __init__ self.Load() File /mailman/Mailman/MailList.py, line 910, in Load raise Errors.MMCorruptListDatabaseError, e Mailman.Errors.MMCorruptListDatabaseError: bad marshal data these lists also don't work, if i use config.db.last 3rd - sometimes just the approvement-messages aren't send. i'm using mailman 2.0.13 on linux. DO ANYONE have any idea? could upgrading to mailman 2.1.2 help? does anyone know another real stable, safe and secure software? please send your answer as cc to my email address. thanks. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Mailman-Users] Mailman/Sendmail
Jason K. Brandt wrote: Hi, I am having problems getting mailman setup on a server using sendmail as the mail server. This is a Redhat 9 machine, and is pretty much a default install, besides the fix for the bug from the default redhat install. So mailman comes up and runs, I can setup lists, but when sending to the list nothing appears to happen. Currently sendmail is listening on only the address for mail.rcctech.net, and I setup the mailing list on www.rcctech.net http://www.rcctech.net/ , as well as mail.rcctech.net. when running on mail.rcctech.net, I get an unknown user error, and on www.rcctech.net http://www.rcctech.net/ nothing appears to happen at all. Any ideas? Thanks, Jason Jason K. Brandt Network Administrator/Consultant RCC Technologies Phone: 309-693-1985 Fax: 309-693-3083 -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/mhaney%40polk.k12.n c.us Are you certain mailman was running? I have basically the same setup as you, and I could get to the admin page and setup lists, etc, but was getting no mail delivered to my test user. Turns out mailman wasn't running and I couldn't get it to start. I eventually scrapped (at 2 this morning) the RPM version and built it from source. I've not tested it yet, but I'm hoping to do so later today. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Use of Optional Name Field on 2.1.2
Chuck, There are several methods that will work. I just use one: Persons Name First and Last email-address It will pretty much put all the text in front of the email address in the Full Name field. I have several members like John and Sue Johnson that work just fine. Chuck Basford wrote: Sorry, if this has been discussed before. I see that I can add a new user singly with an optional name field, but I can not see where it can be done with the mass add function. Is there a way to parse the email address, optional names on a mass add? -- John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] How to show name in the subscriber lis tmailman2.1.2 ?
sorry, subject missing. resent.
~~
Hi,
thanks John, I have tested your code, but I face with a problem of python.
I didn't know python, I search but I didn't find, here is what happen:
at line 79 (from email.Utils import commaaddr)
this generate an error:
# list_members.DeCarlo test
Traceback (most recent call last):
File list_members.DeCarlo, line 79, in ?
from email.Utils import commaaddr
ImportError: cannot import name commaaddr
I check the documentation of python, but I connot find the function
commaaddr.
You use it 2 times:
232:s = commaaddr((name, addr )).encode(enc, 'replace')
264:s = commaaddr((name, addr )).encode(enc, 'replace')
What does this command do, and it is possible to substitute it with another
known one ? or is it possible to include it as a python module (there is no
trace of such command on the WEB)
I search in the whole distrib. of Mailman 2.0.11 (old version I used) and
Mailman 2.1.2 (the current one), I didn't find any function commaaddr, what
is your mailman version ?
Note: I use python 2.2.1 under Solaris
regards,
Nicolas C.
-Message d'origine-
De : John DeCarlo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Envoyé : lundi 21 juillet 2003 19:22
À : Mailman-Users
Cc : CLOCHARD Nicolas
Objet : Re: [Mailman-Users] How to show name in the subscriber list
mailman 2.1.2 ?
Nicolas,
My Python programming skills are crude and self taught. However, I
modified list_members to include more information by default, as well as
adding a -a option to list the full name of the user.
I have attached it here. I keep it a separate name so that it doesn't
get overwritten when I upgrade.
Maybe someone with more time and skill than I can use some of this to
upgrade Mailman.
Feel free to use it as you wish.
CLOCHARD Nicolas wrote:
Hi,
I search to kown if the display of user name in the subscriber list is
possible under mailman 2.1.2
I parse all the option but I di not find it, nothing is on the FAQ and
nothing on the post of the mailing list.
If this is not possible, may be it can be a feature request for the
futur
version of mailman.
--
John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own
#! /usr/bin/python
#
# Copyright (C) 1998,1999,2000,2001,2002 by the Free Software Foundation, Inc.
#
# This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or
# modify it under the terms of the GNU General Public License
# as published by the Free Software Foundation; either version 2
# of the License, or (at your option) any later version.
#
# This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful,
# but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
# MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the
# GNU General Public License for more details.
#
# You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License
# along with this program; if not, write to the Free Software
# Foundation, Inc., 59 Temple Place - Suite 330, Boston, MA 02111-1307, USA.
#
# added --all or -a to get digest/nodigest and nomail(why) status as well as full name
# John DeCarlo 2003-04-01
#
List all the members of a mailing list.
Usage: %(PROGRAM)s [options] listname
Where:
--output file
-o file
Write output to specified file instead of standard out.
--regular / -r
Print just the regular (non-digest) members.
--digest[=kind] / -d [kind]
Print just the digest members. Optional argument can be mime or
plain which prints just the digest members receiving that kind of
digest.
--nomail[=why] / -n [why]
Print the members that have delivery disabled. Optional argument can
be byadmin, byuser, bybounce, or unknown which prints just the
users who have delivery disabled for that reason. It can also be
enabled which prints just those member for whom delivery is
enabled.
--fullnames / -f
Include the full names in the output.
--all / -a
Include full names, email, digest/regular (mime/plain), nomail (why)
--preserve
-p
Output member addresses case preserved the way they were added to the
list. Otherwise, addresses are printed in all lowercase.
--help
-h
Print this help message and exit.
listname is the name of the mailing list to use.
Note that if neither -r or -d is supplied, both regular members are printed
first, followed by digest members, but no indication is given as to address
status.
import sys
import paths
from Mailman import mm_cfg
from Mailman import MailList
from Mailman import Errors
from Mailman import MemberAdaptor
from Mailman.i18n import _
from email.Utils import commaaddr
PROGRAM = sys.argv[0]
WHYCHOICES = {'enabled' : MemberAdaptor.ENABLED,
'unknown' : MemberAdaptor.UNKNOWN,
'byuser' : MemberAdaptor.BYUSER,
[Mailman-Users] (no subject)
Hi,
thanks John, I have tested your code, but I face with a problem of python.
I didn't know python, I search but I didn't find, here is what happen:
at line 79 (from email.Utils import commaaddr)
this generate an error:
# list_members.DeCarlo test
Traceback (most recent call last):
File list_members.DeCarlo, line 79, in ?
from email.Utils import commaaddr
ImportError: cannot import name commaaddr
I check the documentation of python, but I connot find the function
commaaddr.
You use it 2 times:
232:s = commaaddr((name, addr )).encode(enc, 'replace')
264:s = commaaddr((name, addr )).encode(enc, 'replace')
What does this command do, and it is possible to substitute it with another
known one ? or is it possible to include it as a python module (there is no
trace of such command on the WEB)
I search in the whole distrib. of Mailman 2.0.11 (old version I used) and
Mailman 2.1.2 (the current one), I didn't find any function commaaddr, what
is your mailman version ?
Note: I use python 2.2.1 under Solaris
regards,
Nicolas C.
-Message d'origine-
De : John DeCarlo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Envoyé : lundi 21 juillet 2003 19:22
À : Mailman-Users
Cc : CLOCHARD Nicolas
Objet : Re: [Mailman-Users] How to show name in the subscriber list
mailman 2.1.2 ?
Nicolas,
My Python programming skills are crude and self taught. However, I
modified list_members to include more information by default, as well as
adding a -a option to list the full name of the user.
I have attached it here. I keep it a separate name so that it doesn't
get overwritten when I upgrade.
Maybe someone with more time and skill than I can use some of this to
upgrade Mailman.
Feel free to use it as you wish.
CLOCHARD Nicolas wrote:
Hi,
I search to kown if the display of user name in the subscriber list is
possible under mailman 2.1.2
I parse all the option but I di not find it, nothing is on the FAQ and
nothing on the post of the mailing list.
If this is not possible, may be it can be a feature request for the
futur
version of mailman.
--
John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own
#! /usr/bin/python
#
# Copyright (C) 1998,1999,2000,2001,2002 by the Free Software Foundation, Inc.
#
# This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or
# modify it under the terms of the GNU General Public License
# as published by the Free Software Foundation; either version 2
# of the License, or (at your option) any later version.
#
# This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful,
# but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
# MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the
# GNU General Public License for more details.
#
# You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License
# along with this program; if not, write to the Free Software
# Foundation, Inc., 59 Temple Place - Suite 330, Boston, MA 02111-1307, USA.
#
# added --all or -a to get digest/nodigest and nomail(why) status as well as full name
# John DeCarlo 2003-04-01
#
List all the members of a mailing list.
Usage: %(PROGRAM)s [options] listname
Where:
--output file
-o file
Write output to specified file instead of standard out.
--regular / -r
Print just the regular (non-digest) members.
--digest[=kind] / -d [kind]
Print just the digest members. Optional argument can be mime or
plain which prints just the digest members receiving that kind of
digest.
--nomail[=why] / -n [why]
Print the members that have delivery disabled. Optional argument can
be byadmin, byuser, bybounce, or unknown which prints just the
users who have delivery disabled for that reason. It can also be
enabled which prints just those member for whom delivery is
enabled.
--fullnames / -f
Include the full names in the output.
--all / -a
Include full names, email, digest/regular (mime/plain), nomail (why)
--preserve
-p
Output member addresses case preserved the way they were added to the
list. Otherwise, addresses are printed in all lowercase.
--help
-h
Print this help message and exit.
listname is the name of the mailing list to use.
Note that if neither -r or -d is supplied, both regular members are printed
first, followed by digest members, but no indication is given as to address
status.
import sys
import paths
from Mailman import mm_cfg
from Mailman import MailList
from Mailman import Errors
from Mailman import MemberAdaptor
from Mailman.i18n import _
from email.Utils import commaaddr
PROGRAM = sys.argv[0]
WHYCHOICES = {'enabled' : MemberAdaptor.ENABLED,
'unknown' : MemberAdaptor.UNKNOWN,
'byuser' : MemberAdaptor.BYUSER,
'byadmin' : MemberAdaptor.BYADMIN,
'bybounce':
[Mailman-Users] [Fwd: [Mailman-cabal] Linux Expo UK 2003 - .OrgVillage Free Space for Mailman]
This sounds like an interesting opportunity to get some more Mailman exposure. I won't be able to attend, but if any of our UK or Euro friends are planning to, would you be willing to volunteer a little time at the booth? If so, please let me and Brian know (I don't know what all is involved, other than shouting at the top of your lungs every five minutes: Mailman Rocks! :) -Barry -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] [suggestion] non-member thread subscription
Let me say that i don't manage or host any lists. I am, however, a member of several lists. As a member of mailing lists i have a suggestion for a feature that would, i think, be of benefit to list members an non-members. As a member of several developer/support lists I often see postings from people who have a single question. They don't wish to subscribe to the list, they just want an answer to their question or to be able answer questions that list members may have in response to their suggestion. My sending this idea to the mailman list would would qualify. Their choices are few and problematic. o They can subscribe and then cancel the subscription at a later date -- a hurdle that daunts many and presents the prospect of inundation. o Some poll a list archive -- that causes delays, heavier load on the archive server and follow-ups that break threading. o Some ask list members to CC them in follow-ups -- sporadic compliance at best resulting in their address being dropped from the thread and the user either missing some of the replies or polling the archives. All of these choices reduce effective participation and thereby contribution of those on the perepheri. I have thought of another possibility. I call it non-member thread subscription. When a posting to a list is made by a non-member a record associating that non-member's email address with the thread is created. When follow-up postings are made to the thread they also get sent to the thread subscribers. This way the non-member could communicate with the developer community about their single issue in a fairly transparent manner. This whole process could be done with a supplementary program provided it had access to the subscriber list. This external program would track threads with non-member posters and forward the follups to them. As indicated i am not a member of this list. I put this out there as a suggestion. What you do with it is up to you. In this case i'll not be monitoring the list so if you have a question you want ME to answer regarding my suggestion you will have to CC me. -- J.W. SchultzPegasystems Technologies email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Remember Cernan and Schmitt -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Mailman/Sendmail
Hi, I am having problems getting mailman setup on a server using sendmail as the mail server. This is a Redhat 9 machine, and is pretty much a default install, besides the fix for the bug from the default redhat install. So mailman comes up and runs, I can setup lists, but when sending to the list nothing appears to happen. Currently sendmail is listening on only the address for mail.rcctech.net, and I setup the mailing list on www.rcctech.net http://www.rcctech.net/ , as well as mail.rcctech.net. when running on mail.rcctech.net, I get an unknown user error, and on www.rcctech.net http://www.rcctech.net/ nothing appears to happen at all. Any ideas? Thanks, Jason Jason K. Brandt Network Administrator/Consultant RCC Technologies Phone: 309-693-1985 Fax: 309-693-3083 -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Use of Optional Name Field on 2.1.2
Chuck, There have been discussions on this list about working with a database - you might try going to the archives and searching on MySQL. I believe Barry mentioned that this is part of the plan for Mailman 3. Chuck Basford wrote: Thank you very much John. It worked like a champ! I am running maillists for several of my Lions Club organizations and this helps a bunch. Do you think that Python will ever make other optional fields available like if we wanted to add Club Name, Member Position, Year Joined, etc.?? -- John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] passwords, confirmation emails,clunky web interfaces, and my grandmother
You do not say what version of Mailman you are running. Were you to be running MM 2.1.2 you would find the following list configuration options, which if set as indicated would lead to a user being subscribed without having to respond to or indeed receive any emails except the subsequent normal list traffic. The list admin would have to OK the subscription; being a responsible list admin, you would not want no constraints or checks on who is being subscribed to your list would you? If I recollect, similar options are available on the MM 2.0.13 interface. If you take a look at the mailman-users list archives you may find recipes for password-less unsubscription. I will leave that for you to research. The web hosting admin person you refer to might like to spend some time checking the web admin GUI of Mailman for the options it offers. On General Options page under Notifications: set 'Send monthly password reminder' to No set 'Send welcome message to newly subscribed...' to No On Privacy Options page: set 'What steps are require for subscription' to 'Require approval' As regards the rude tone of your post, you would do well to remember that Mailman is Open Software, you are paying no charge for either the software license or support and that the people you are asking to respond via this list do so because they want to help; not because they are being paid to tolerate your sarcasm. On Sunday, July 20, 2003, at 07:21 PM, David Hunt wrote: Dear All, I'm trying to run a simple mailing list so that people can sign up to receive news related to my career as a musician. I would like it to be simple enough that my grandmother could sign up for it if she wanted to. Right now, it is a mess - the very first person who signed up, who was quite computer literate, made the comment that was a lot of emails!! So here is what I want: = When the user is asked to confirm a subscription, the confirmation message is a five page essay in legalese. It should just say to confirm your subscription, please reply to this message or else _click here_. How do I change it? The admin person at my web host did not know of a way. = After the user is confirmed, there is ANOTHER essay, longer than the first, detailing the web pages and passwords and all sorts of rediculous options they will need to remember in order to get one email once every two months about my music. How do I change that message? = How do I make it so users don't need a password to subscribe/unsubscribe? Or, maybe I can force the computer to assign them all the same password, even when I sign them up? Again, my web admin didn't know of a way. Ideally, a person should be able to go to my website, type in their email address, hit subscribe, confirm by replying to one simple email, and then receive the messages I send them; and then if they want off, they just click a link in any one of those emails. No passwords, no options - just a mailing list, for goodness sake! I hope that's not too much to ask. Keep in mind when you reply that I'm a musician and not a unix guru. Regards, David Hunt http://dnotes.net/ _ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/ r.barrett%40openinfo.co.uk -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] More madness
I caved. Jason Buscema gave me the answer to the problem with the RPM version of mailman. I re-installed it and added the 2 lines to make mailman know what user/group to use. Everything is peachy keen. I have 2 problems. First, in the auto-respond message I get when subscribing as a new user, the confirmation URL is still pointing to http://porky.redhat., etc. In the email itself, the reply-to address is correct. What's the fix to that? I have the DEFAULT_URL_HOST setup in mm_cfg.py. Second, I receive the subscription emails and confirmation emails correctly. But when I post a new message to the list, I don't get the actual posted message sent back to me. It's obvious mailman/sendmail is setup (mostly) correctly, but where's the new message going? Remember, I'm a newbie to mailman, so be gentle. Thanks. Jesus is coming - look busy! Mark Haney Polk County Schools IT Staff/Technical Guru http://www.polk.k12.nc.us -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: How to show name in the subscriberlist mailman 2.1.2 ?
John DeCarlo wrote: 1) The instructions are wrong, as you noticed. The only difference between -a/--all and nothing is the full name of the user being included and the email address in . The regular/digest and nomail option are displayed either way. If I actually read what you wrote rather than skimming it I would have been fine. The list I tried it on has just been moved in a mass transfer, and was e-mail addresses only. On a list with full names it works as advertised. 2) I don't know the difference between commaaddr and formataddr, but it works fine for me with commaaddr. Just posted it in case someone else had the same issue. I'm just impressed that I was able to edit a python program ;-) Paul Duct tape is like the Force. It has a light side and a dark side, and it holds the universe together. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] How to show name in the subscriber listmailman 2.1.2 ?
Yes, I'm sure I misunderstood since I may not have gotten the original question that you answered. I was hoping for a subscriber's list function including names that could be browsed from the listinfo page. I've never really understood why it's not there in the first place; I've never seen the usefulness of showing a subscriber's list on listinfo containing only email addresses. Rob Quoting John DeCarlo [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Rob, Did you try ./list_members -a listname? This is just another command line script, used by humans or their scripts, but which is not used by Mailman AFAIK. I have to admit I don't know exactly what you mean by gone to one of my mailing lists. It sounds like maybe you want to change the web interface or something else? Rob Brandt wrote: John; This interests me too; thanks for this. But how do you make it work? I've copied your file into the /bin directory and renamed it as list_members, then gone to one of my mailing lists to view the member list, but it still only lists the member's email address. I suspect that I have to modify another script somewhere, but where? Rob -- John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Pine file
At 5:30 PM -0500 2003/07/21, Juan Nicolas Bernal Yhama wrote: I installed the mailman for a big server in my university. Great! Glad to hear it! the mail server of de university has 1800 accounts. I want to install an imap server with squirrelmail because this have others features and it is posible access with pine. My users use webmail and pine simulteneously. Is posible convert the INBOX, SENT and TRASH directories to standart mail format !?? or to use pine for access the mailman server !? Unfortunately, what mail server you use for the University is not really relevant to mailman. As a mailing list manager, mailman should be useable with virtually any standards-compliant mail server, and any standards-compliant MUA. The particular IMAP server you install should not be relevant, because the only interface between mailman and the outside world is through the web (mostly user interaction), or through the SMTP protocol (mail servers talking to each other). Mailman does not know anything about the IMAP protocol. I would suggest doing more research on IMAP, and finding an IMAP-related mailing list or newsgroup on which to ask these questions. Myself, I found WU-IMAP (Washington University) to be easy-to-install, and supported a wide variety of mailbox formats, etc However, WU-IMAP does not scale well, and 1800 users may be too much for it. In that case, you may want to consider Courier (a complete mail server package, including an IMAP server) or Courier-IMAP (just the IMAP server part), or perhaps Cyrus. Courier and Courier-IMAP are definitely more difficult to install than WU-IMAP, but they do scale better. However, they do not scale as well as Cyrus (all major commercial IMAP server packages I know of are based on Cyrus), although Cyrus is even more difficult to install. For your site, you may need to choose between Courier/Courier-IMAP and Cyrus, depending on your particular needs. I'd suggest starting big (with Cyrus), and if it turns out to be too difficult for you, step back and try Courier or Courier-IMAP instead. You could use WU-IMAP for a small prototype server, but I fear that it would not handle 1800 users. Trust me -- you don't want to be in a situation where you've chosen a particular package, gotten half way into moving all the users over to it, only to find it can't scale with you and you need to re-do the entire project with a different package. Been there, done that, still have the singed hairs to prove it. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania. GCS/IT d+(-) s:+(++): a C++(+++)$ UMBSHI$ P+++ L+ !E-(---) W+++(--) N+ !w--- O- M++ V PS++(+++) PE- Y+(++) PGP+++ t+(+++) 5++(+++) X++(+++) R+(+++) tv+(+++) b+() DI+() D+(++) G+() e++ h--- r---(+++)* z(+++) -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] How to show name in the subscriber list mailman2.1.2 ?
Rob, I can't help you with the web interface. The cgi-bin programs are not plain text Python. Presumably they are compiled code, binaries. Perhaps you could go to the sourceforge Mailman site and submit this as an enhancement request. Another alternative is to fiddle with the email who command - a script I posted earlier. Then by email you can get subscriber's full names. Rob Brandt wrote: Yes, I'm sure I misunderstood since I may not have gotten the original question that you answered. I was hoping for a subscriber's list function including names that could be browsed from the listinfo page. I've never really understood why it's not there in the first place; I've never seen the usefulness of showing a subscriber's list on listinfo containing only email addresses. -- John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Why won't Mailman send mail?
Okay, I followed the FAQ on why mailman won't send email to users. The big thing I noticed is that in /etc/passwd, the mailman account has a default shell of /bin/false, is that supposed to be? Also, there's no home folder for the mailman user, so I can't check on the cron jobs. Should I assume that, with no cron jobs running, no mail is going out? Aside from that here's a copy of /var/mail/maillog concerning my recent attempt to send an email to the list, is this any help with figuring out why I can't get list mail sent? Jul 22 11:13:31 pcweb sendmail[30892]: h6MFDUrW030892: from=[EMAIL PROTECTED], size=822, class=0, nrcpts=1, msgid=[EMAIL PROTECTED], proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA, relay=bay9-f62.bay9.hotmail.com [64.4.47.62] Jul 22 11:13:32 pcweb sendmail[30893]: h6MFDUrW030892: to=|/var/mailman/mail/mailman post weather, ctladdr=[EMAIL PROTECTED] (8/0), delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:01, mailer=prog, pri=31032, dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent Jul 22 11:13:34 pcweb sendmail[30895]: h6MFDYrW030895: from=[EMAIL PROTECTED], size=1863, class=-30, nrcpts=1, msgid=[EMAIL PROTECTED], proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA, relay=localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1] Jesus is coming - look busy! Mark Haney Polk County Schools IT Staff/Technical Guru http://www.polk.k12.nc.us -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Why won't Mailman send mail?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mark Haney wrote: Okay, I followed the FAQ on why mailman won't send email to users. The big thing I noticed is that in /etc/passwd, the mailman account has a default shell of /bin/false, is that supposed to be? I don't *think* that'll break anything, but then, I'm not using the redhat rpm and my mailman users doesn't have /bin/false as a shell. Also, there's no home folder for the mailman user, so I can't check on the cron jobs. Should I assume that, with no cron jobs running, no mail is going out? 2.1.2 doesn't use the cron jobs for sending mail AFAIK, so even if they weren't setup right, that should affect mail delivery. It would break some other stuff though so you want to check that they are setup. You can do that like so (from an account with sufficient privileges, like root): crontab -u mailman -l Aside from that here's a copy of /var/mail/maillog concerning my recent attempt to send an email to the list, is this any help with figuring out why I can't get list mail sent? Jul 22 11:13:31 pcweb sendmail[30892]: h6MFDUrW030892: from=[EMAIL PROTECTED], size=822, class=0, nrcpts=1, msgid=[EMAIL PROTECTED], proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA, relay=bay9-f62.bay9.hotmail.com [64.4.47.62] Jul 22 11:13:32 pcweb sendmail[30893]: h6MFDUrW030892: to=|/var/mailman/mail/mailman post weather, ctladdr=[EMAIL PROTECTED] (8/0), delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:01, mailer=prog, pri=31032, dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent Jul 22 11:13:34 pcweb sendmail[30895]: h6MFDYrW030895: from=[EMAIL PROTECTED], size=1863, class=-30, nrcpts=1, msgid=[EMAIL PROTECTED], proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA, relay=localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1] That says the mail got passed to mailman OK. You might want to look at the mailman logs to see what errors might have prevented it from going out to the list. I think redhat puts them in /var/log/mailman . - -- Todd OpenPGP - KeyID: 0xD654075A | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp Some people are like Slinkies... not really good for anything, but you still can't help but smile when you see one tumble down the stairs. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: When crypto is outlawed bayl bhgynjf jvyy unir cevinpl. iD8DBQE/HXh3uv+09NZUB1oRAqGvAJ4sUcvwwDpuZ1+LI3RpuLocN6iheQCgmMDf YMkWp+DbcwCXcs15NWJ4KCg= =PhBU -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] More madness
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mark Haney wrote: I caved. D'oh! Good luck with it. :) Jason Buscema gave me the answer to the problem with the RPM version of mailman. I re-installed it and added the 2 lines to make mailman know what user/group to use. Hehe, nothing like having to fix the simple 'do all the setup for you' rpm version. Everything is peachy keen. Well, except for the below, right? I have 2 problems. First, in the auto-respond message I get when subscribing as a new user, the confirmation URL is still pointing to http://porky.redhat., etc. In the email itself, the reply-to address is correct. What's the fix to that? I have the DEFAULT_URL_HOST setup in mm_cfg.py. After you add the DEFAULT_URL_HOST and DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST (and the add_virtualhost call below them), you need to restart the mailman service to make it take effect. And you'll also need to use the fix_url script to correct any lists you created before you made this change, they will still have the bad defaults. If you only have test lists, it might be just as easy to delete them and recreate them if you're unsure of how to use the fix_url script. Second, I receive the subscription emails and confirmation emails correctly. But when I post a new message to the list, I don't get the actual posted message sent back to me. It's obvious mailman/sendmail is setup (mostly) correctly, but where's the new message going? Look at the logs in /var/logs/mailman for clues (I think that's where redhat moves them to). Remember, I'm a newbie to mailman, so be gentle. Thanks. So far, every issue you have is caused by the bad redhat 9 rpm. I hope you don't hold this against mailman. It is really nice software. It's just a shame that the packager of the redhat 9 rpm was on crack when he put the rpm together and unleashed it on the unsuspecting masses. ;-) - -- Todd OpenPGP - KeyID: 0xD654075A | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp The average American family head will be forced to do twenty years' labor to pay taxes in his or her lifetime. -- James Bovard, Lost Rights -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: When crypto is outlawed bayl bhgynjf jvyy unir cevinpl. iD8DBQE/HXrRuv+09NZUB1oRAmJCAKD3+kSzzno6t1EuQNOU94wbFc2GBwCffLHw RZaIQdiCN2nJZX/aVMsPzB8= =rGnL -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] How to show name in the subscriber list mailman2.1.2 ?
On Tuesday, July 22, 2003, at 06:02 PM, John DeCarlo wrote: Rob, I can't help you with the web interface. The cgi-bin programs are not plain text Python. Presumably they are compiled code, binaries. Not quite correct. The actual work of MM CGI programs is done by regular Python scripts located in $prefix/Mailman/Cgi These Python scripts are actually run by compiled C security wrappers launched by the web server but the Python scripts do the work. Only if you want to introduce an additional CGI program do you need to worry about the security wrappers. Perhaps you could go to the sourceforge Mailman site and submit this as an enhancement request. Another alternative is to fiddle with the email who command - a script I posted earlier. Then by email you can get subscriber's full names. Rob Brandt wrote: Yes, I'm sure I misunderstood since I may not have gotten the original question that you answered. I was hoping for a subscriber's list function including names that could be browsed from the listinfo page. I've never really understood why it's not there in the first place; I've never seen the usefulness of showing a subscriber's list on listinfo containing only email addresses. -- John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] mass subscription
I want to mass subscribe people that I have on another list. I want to just send them an email with a link to subscribe( cutting out the confirmation email). These people have already opted in to receive email from me. Also, I noticed that when you mass subscribe a password is assigned. Can I make a static password, rather than having to run the change password script. Any help would be appreciated. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] mass subscription
On Tue, Jul 22, 2003 at 05:03:34PM -0400, Rob Eckerson wrote: I want to mass subscribe people that I have on another list. I want to just send them an email with a link to subscribe( cutting out the confirmation email). These people have already opted in to receive email from me. Since you've already got the list, simply do the following: bin/list_members listname listname.members bin/add_members -r listname.members newlist You've got the option on the add_members to have the welcome message go out or not. The members could easily unbsubscribe based on the welcome message. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] How do I implement Mailman
We want to implement Mailman but we know nothing. What do we need to do to put Mailman into production? Can you point me in the right direction on all the steps necessary to use this great tool? Does GNU have a GUI? HELP! Anne Campbell IT Manager Swets Blackwell, Inc. 160 Ninth Avenue Runnemede, NJ 08078 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 856-312-2150 (Direct) 856-312-2013 (Fax) -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman-Users Digest, Vol 10, Issue 64
'help' Original message Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 17:51:42 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Mailman-Users Digest, Vol 10, Issue 64 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Mailman-Users mailing list submissions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Mailman-Users digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: How to show name in the subscriber list mailman 2.1.2 ? (Rob Brandt) 2. Re: Pine file (Brad Knowles) 3. Re: How to show name in the subscriber list mailman 2.1.2 ? (John DeCarlo) 4. Why won't Mailman send mail? (Mark Haney) 5. Re: Why won't Mailman send mail? (Todd) 6. Re: More madness (Todd) 7. Re: How to show name in the subscriber list mailman 2.1.2 ? (Richard Barrett) 8. mass subscription (Rob Eckerson) 9. How do I implement Mailman (Anne Campbell) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 09:21:01 +0100 From: Rob Brandt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] How to show name in the subscriber list mailman 2.1.2 ? To: John DeCarlo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yes, I'm sure I misunderstood since I may not have gotten the original question that you answered. I was hoping for a subscriber's list function including names that could be browsed from the listinfo page. I've never really understood why it's not there in the first place; I've never seen the usefulness of showing a subscriber's list on listinfo containing only email addresses. Rob Quoting John DeCarlo [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Rob, Did you try ./list_members -a listname? This is just another command line script, used by humans or their scripts, but which is not used by Mailman AFAIK. I have to admit I don't know exactly what you mean by gone to one of my mailing lists. It sounds like maybe you want to change the web interface or something else? Rob Brandt wrote: John; This interests me too; thanks for this. But how do you make it work? I've copied your file into the /bin directory and renamed it as list_members, then gone to one of my mailing lists to view the member list, but it still only lists the member's email address. I suspect that I have to modify another script somewhere, but where? Rob -- John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 17:34:42 +0200 From: Brad Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Pine file To: Juan Nicolas Bernal Yhama [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 5:30 PM -0500 2003/07/21, Juan Nicolas Bernal Yhama wrote: I installed the mailman for a big server in my university. Great! Glad to hear it! the mail server of de university has 1800 accounts. I want to install an imap server with squirrelmail because this have others features and it is posible access with pine. My users use webmail and pine simulteneously. Is posible convert the INBOX, SENT and TRASH directories to standart mail format !?? or to use pine for access the mailman server !? Unfortunately, what mail server you use for the University is not really relevant to mailman. As a mailing list manager, mailman should be useable with virtually any standards-compliant mail server, and any standards-compliant MUA. The particular IMAP server you install should not be relevant, because the only interface between mailman and the outside world is through the web (mostly user interaction), or through the SMTP protocol (mail servers talking to each other). Mailman does not know anything about the IMAP protocol. I would suggest doing more research on IMAP, and finding an IMAP-related mailing list or newsgroup on which to ask these questions. Myself, I found WU-IMAP (Washington University) to be easy-to-install, and supported a wide variety of mailbox formats, etc However, WU-IMAP does not scale well, and 1800 users may be too much for it. In that case, you may want to consider Courier (a complete mail server package, including an IMAP server) or Courier-IMAP (just the IMAP server part), or perhaps Cyrus. Courier and Courier-IMAP are definitely more difficult to install than WU-IMAP, but they do scale better. However, they do not scale as well as Cyrus (all major commercial IMAP server packages I know of are based on Cyrus), although Cyrus is even more difficult to install. For your site, you may need to choose between Courier/Courier-IMAP and Cyrus, depending on your particular needs. I'd suggest starting big (with Cyrus), and if it turns out to be too difficult for you, step back
Re: [Mailman-Users] How do I implement Mailman
On Tuesday, July 22, 2003, at 09:53 PM, Anne Campbell wrote: We want to implement Mailman but we know nothing. What do we need to do to put Mailman into production? 1. A computer running some type of UNIX or UNIX-like (Solaris, Linux, FreeBSD, MacOS X etc) operating system. 2. An MTA (such as Sendmail, Postfix, Qmail, Exim) and a web server (such as Apache) running on that machine. 3. An installation of the Python programming language software (preferably version 2.2) on that machine. With that you are ready to start installing Mailman. If you want to install from source code you will need standard C compilers and such installed on the machine. You can get binary installation packages for Mailman for various flavours of Linux but installation from source is often simpler. If you download and unzip/untar mailman-2.1.2.tgz from http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=103 you will find installation instructions and readme files in the distribution which may clarify matters for you. Can you point me in the right direction on all the steps necessary to use this great tool? Does GNU have a GUI? GNU is a state of mind with many associated software projects, see: http://www.gnu.org/ HELP! Anne Campbell IT Manager Swets Blackwell, Inc. 160 Ninth Avenue Runnemede, NJ 08078 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 856-312-2150 (Direct) 856-312-2013 (Fax) -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] How to show name in the subscriber list mailman2.1.2 ?
--On Tuesday, July 22, 2003 9:21 AM +0100 Rob Brandt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, I'm sure I misunderstood since I may not have gotten the original question that you answered. I was hoping for a subscriber's list function including names that could be browsed from the listinfo page. I've never really understood why it's not there in the first place; I've never seen the usefulness of showing a subscriber's list on listinfo containing only email addresses. To which I reply: Funny, when I go to the Membership Management pages for my lists (MM 2.1.2), the membership list show the names. Is it just that you want to see more at once, or what am I missing? -- Steve Burlingmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Michigan, ICPSRVoice: +1 734 615.3779 330 Packard Street FAX: +1 734 647.8700 Ann Arbor, MI 48104-2910 -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Strangenesses with URLs in the admin/listinfo pages
First, please let me apologise if this topic has been covered here before; I've just discovered this resource. I'm an amateur list/sysadmin; I've got a home web/mail server, but I'm not a pro nor do I have a pro's knowledge. I think I've got my system set up properly (Mailman 2.1.2), but there's one lingering problem. My web server is running on a non-standard port. Thus, any URL I use appends the port number to the host name (http://www.domain.tld:7080). By playing with the URL parameters in the mm_cfg.py file (copied from the Defaults.py file), I've managed to get *most* of the links on the admin and info (etc) pages to display properly. However, the link to the Archives will NOT append that info. Here's what I've got (not the real values): DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'domain.tld' DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'www.domain.tld' DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'http://%s:7080/mailman/' MAILMAN_URL = 'http://www.domain.tld:7080/' VIRTUAL_HOSTS.clear() add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST) The link for the archives consistently shows as: http://www.domain.tld/pipermail/soapbox/ if I edit the DEFAULT_URL_HOST value to include the port number, the Archive link shows properly - as do most of the other links. However, the show all lists on this server link then truncates the port number. If I put the port number on BOTH parameters, then it's doubled for everything except the archives and show all lists. I do run the fix_url script each time. Has anyone run into this before and/or does anyone have any suggestions? BTW, from what I saw when trying to run with 2.1, these two links have been problematic. Before I upgraded and recreated the list, these two links would default to the server 'porky.devel.redhat.com' (yes, I'm running RH9) and nothing I could do would change that. Searching via Google, I found no real info on how to change it, but quite a few sites out there having the same problem. Is this a bug, a consistency problem, or something obvious that I'm missing? -Don Levey -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Write your own (WAS: How to show name in thesubscriber list)
John DeCarlo wrote: Another alternative is to fiddle with the email who command - a script I posted earlier. Then by email you can get subscriber's full names. I you really want it on a web page write the code to do that. The commands can be run with a cron job and output to a file. If you know some basic Linux and some basic html you can put just about any Mailman information onto a web page. I use a lot of virtual includes - a cron job updates the include file, and that updates the web page. I've put together a page that shows all the list I administer. I shows number of members and number of pending messages. It has an alphabet that links to the member list for that letter, and a link to things like the add member form, archives, and so on. Paul, pretty good with html, but a real newbie hack with Linux -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] How to show name in the subscriber listmailman 2.1.2 ?
No, not membership management, Roster page; i.e.: http://domain.com/mailman/roster/listname accesed by regular members (if that option is enabled) from the listinfo page under (listname) Subscribers. Rob Quoting Steve Burling [EMAIL PROTECTED]: --On Tuesday, July 22, 2003 9:21 AM +0100 Rob Brandt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, I'm sure I misunderstood since I may not have gotten the original question that you answered. I was hoping for a subscriber's list function including names that could be browsed from the listinfo page. I've never really understood why it's not there in the first place; I've never seen the usefulness of showing a subscriber's list on listinfo containing only email addresses. To which I reply: Funny, when I go to the Membership Management pages for my lists (MM 2.1.2), the membership list show the names. Is it just that you want to see more at once, or what am I missing? -- Steve Burlingmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Michigan, ICPSRVoice: +1 734 615.3779 330 Packard Street FAX: +1 734 647.8700 Ann Arbor, MI 48104-2910 -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/bronto%40csd-bes.net -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Mailman + Htdig
Hello, I want to install mailman with htdig integration. And I patched mailman source by patches located in Source forge. But after installation an error occuired and I can't create new list. Any help? Thank you, Anar.Ch Enter the email of the person running the list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Initial mailman password: Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/local/mailman/bin/newlist, line 219, in ? main() File /usr/local/mailman/bin/newlist, line 160, in main mlist.Create(listname, owner_mail, pw) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py, line 450, in Create self.InitVars(name, admin, crypted_password) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py, line 368, in InitVars baseclass.InitVars(self) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py, line 116, in InitVars }, mlist=self)) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Utils.py, line 497, in maketext return findtext(templatefile, dict=dict, raw=raw, lang=lang, mlist=mlist)[0] NameError: global name 'findtext' is not defined -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Strangenesses with URLs in the admin/listinfopages
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Don Levey wrote: My web server is running on a non-standard port. Thus, any URL I use appends the port number to the host name (http://www.domain.tld:7080). By playing with the URL parameters in the mm_cfg.py file (copied from the Defaults.py file), I've managed to get *most* of the links on the admin and info (etc) pages to display properly. However, the link to the Archives will NOT append that info. Here's what I've got (not the real values): DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'domain.tld' DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'www.domain.tld' DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'http://%s:7080/mailman/' MAILMAN_URL = 'http://www.domain.tld:7080/' VIRTUAL_HOSTS.clear() add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST) The link for the archives consistently shows as: http://www.domain.tld/pipermail/soapbox/ I think you want to also set PUBLIC_ARCHIVE_URL. See the comment in Defaults.py. I don't know if you have to recreate the archives or anything after changing this. Hopefully someone else will. Or you can try it and see. You should restart the mailman service though, AFAIK. There might be more on this in the archives too, now that you know to search for PUBLIC_ARCHIVE_URL. - -- Todd OpenPGP - KeyID: 0xD654075A | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable. -- John F. Kennedy, 1962 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: When crypto is outlawed bayl bhgynjf jvyy unir cevinpl. iD8DBQE/Hgr2uv+09NZUB1oRAvdyAJ9KeUpnOZ0YJwWH4DgytMeVjltKBACeI28d yQxKUuCsATJBX6NH6gStgV4= =OLxG -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Auto-Responder Question
Hello all, I am a mailman newbie although I have been running mailing lists with majordomo for about five years. I have community website and we run about 30 lists. I have a dedicated RedHat Linux box running cpanel. Recently the cpanel folx upgraded my cpanel and also my mailman (I didn't know about it). Now I am running mailman 2.1.2. I am going to post a few questions I have, but wanted to break them out into individual emails for future searching purposes. Here is my first question. I have my lists set up to send a questionnaire using the auto-respond to -request feature. I noticed that if a potential member clicks on the link provided in the confirm subscribe email they do not receive that questinnaire. They will only receive it if they reply to the email with the confirm+number. Is this how mailman works? Or is this a feature I can change? I want the questionnaire to be sent out if they reply to the confirm subscribe email or if they click on the link. Thanks in advance. Christine -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
