[Mailman-Users] Qrunner with 98% load

2003-10-06 Thread Wim Bonis
Hello List,

I just upgrades my Server to mailman 2.1.3, and it basicly works, but some
messages trigger a 98% load of qrunner.

The messages are in qfiles/out and get renamed more than once in a second.
There is no log entry in logs or syslog.

I already read the archives about the qrunner with over 90% CPU subject.
But in that thread the people blame the MTA reporting a 451. I straced and
tcpdumped the qrunner, and it does not try to contact the MTA.

What else can i try to get more useful debugging output?

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[Mailman-Users] Moderated list issue

2003-10-06 Thread Noah
FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE
OWM 2.1.1


okay mailman is holding a list moderator post. 
their address is added to the moderator email list.  their email addr is a
member of the list and their moderator bit is unset.

here is the mailman vette error:

held: Message has implicit destination


what can I do about this so the message is no longer held?


- Noah


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[Mailman-Users] A www interface to Mailman mbox archives

2003-10-06 Thread Andy Sy
Hi all, I would like to interface a DHTML-based, collapsible
threaded message interface I've developed to GNU Mailman
lists.
THe key technique relies on building an index (ala mail summary
files) of the raw mbox and retrieving messages using an HTTP ranged
request from it on an as-needed basis.
Question for list admins out there is:

Do you find yourselves expunging / compacting the raw mbox?  And
if so, how often?
Once I index the raw mbox, can I count on the present messages in
it to remain in the same positions and only have to check / index
on the new messages appended to the end?
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Moderated list issue

2003-10-06 Thread Richard Barrett
On Monday, October 6, 2003, at 01:11  pm, Noah wrote:

FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE
OWM 2.1.1
okay mailman is holding a list moderator post.
their address is added to the moderator email list.  their email addr 
is a
member of the list and their moderator bit is unset.

here is the mailman vette error:

held: Message has implicit destination

This may be because the list's email address does not appear in the To: 
or Cc: header of the message. If so, it may have nothing to do with who 
is sending the message.

The first two options on the Privacy-Recipient filters web admin GUI 
page for the list may help you deal with this issue.

This issue sometimes arises when the mail address of the list concerned 
is subscribed to another list.

what can I do about this so the message is no longer held?

- Noah
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Re: [Mailman-Users] not allowing mass-subscription (web interface)

2003-10-06 Thread Vivek Khera
 WY == Will Yardley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

WY Lastly, is there a way to get Mailman to record information about
WY confirmation of a subscription (if a link was clicked, from what IP; if
WY via an email message, the headers of the message)? Is there a way to

I've got some consulting money sitting about for someone to write such
a feature into Mailman -- keeping record of the confirmation request
and the confirmation response (either email or clickthrough data).

Please contact me offlist if interested.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] not allowing mass-subscription (web interface)

2003-10-06 Thread Ed Wilts
On Mon, Oct 06, 2003 at 10:34:26AM -0400, Vivek Khera wrote:
  WY == Will Yardley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 WY Lastly, is there a way to get Mailman to record information about
 WY confirmation of a subscription (if a link was clicked, from what IP; if
 WY via an email message, the headers of the message)? Is there a way to
 
 I've got some consulting money sitting about for someone to write such
 a feature into Mailman -- keeping record of the confirmation request
 and the confirmation response (either email or clickthrough data).

Given the new anti-spam law coming into California with the burden of
proof being on the e-mail sender that the user has really opted in, I
don't see how we can avoid having this feature in Mailman.  Some of run
commercial mailing lists and it will be imperative for us to be able to
demonstrate that the user really opted in.

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[Mailman-Users] Mail not sending mail problem

2003-10-06 Thread Mike Alberghini
Last week I upgraded mailman from 2.1.1 to 2.1.3.  Over the weekend mailman
apparently stopped sending mail.  Sunday night it just stopped posting.
I have spent the morning fiddling around with it and here is what I know:

1.  almost 22,000 have built up in mailman/qfiles/in
2.  moving all of these out allowed mail to start flowing again
3.  my error log has countless 'lost data files for filebase' entries
4.  if I move some of the old qfiles back into mailman/qfiles/in, they
don't get sent.

Can anyone give me an idea of how to trace down the cause of this problem?
Is there any way to get the 22,000 old qfiles sent?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] not allowing mass-subscription (web interface)

2003-10-06 Thread Vivek Khera
 EW == Ed Wilts [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I've got some consulting money sitting about for someone to write such
 a feature into Mailman -- keeping record of the confirmation request
 and the confirmation response (either email or clickthrough data).

EW Given the new anti-spam law coming into California with the burden of
EW proof being on the e-mail sender that the user has really opted in, I
EW don't see how we can avoid having this feature in Mailman.  Some of run

Exactly.  And I'm willing to be the one to pay someone to build it in
sooner rather than later.  For similar reasons, I believe the other
request of having a tunable to disable uploads but keep invitations
is also necessary.  I might pay for that too, if it wasn't too much
more.


I know that I can permanently keep all mail logs and web server logs
and mailman logs as proof, but that's just too much unnecessary data.
I want to be able to go in as the admin of the site (NOT the list
owner -- they could see the secret token from the confirmation message
and email/click it themselves) and review that information by pulling
up the record of an individual address.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mail not sending mail problem

2003-10-06 Thread Jon Carnes
have you tried using the ~mailman/bin/unshunt program?  It can take as
input the directory that you moved the qfiles into.

I haven't looked at the shunt/unshunt code, but it's worth a shot!

Jon Carnes

On Mon, 2003-10-06 at 11:17, Mike Alberghini wrote:
 Last week I upgraded mailman from 2.1.1 to 2.1.3.  Over the weekend mailman
 apparently stopped sending mail.  Sunday night it just stopped posting.
 I have spent the morning fiddling around with it and here is what I know:
 
 1.  almost 22,000 have built up in mailman/qfiles/in
 2.  moving all of these out allowed mail to start flowing again
 3.  my error log has countless 'lost data files for filebase' entries
 4.  if I move some of the old qfiles back into mailman/qfiles/in, they
 don't get sent.
 
 Can anyone give me an idea of how to trace down the cause of this problem?
 Is there any way to get the 22,000 old qfiles sent?


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[Mailman-Users] Archiving problem

2003-10-06 Thread Kari Ahveninen
Hi!

When I try to archive (or mailman make archives from list) I will get a 
next error message:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File bin/arch, line 187, in ?
main()
  File bin/arch, line 177, in main
archiver.close()
  File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/pipermail.py, line 306, in 
close
self.write_TOC()
  File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/HyperArch.py, line 1044, 
in write_TOC
toc.write(self.html_TOC())
  File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/HyperArch.py, line 734, in 
html_TOC
accum.append(self.html_TOC_entry(a))
  File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/HyperArch.py, line 759, in 
html_TOC_entry
templ = 'tdA href=%(url)s[ ' + _('Text%(sz)s') + ']/a/td'
  File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/i18n.py, line 89, in _
return tns % dict
ValueError: unsupported format character 'รค' (0xffe4) at index 11

I have gotten it clear that far that I suppose this error be originated 
somehow of local language setting (?) caused by python, but I have no 
idea how to fix it, nor get this to work.

Mailman version is 2.1.3, running on RH 9.0.

I hope that somebody have any clue what should or could be done?

Wishes,

Kari

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[Mailman-Users] I have set up a Mailman mailing list . . ..

2003-10-06 Thread Heart
I can't find any help.  It's great, it's terrific, but . . . .
I can't find a way to make it do the ONE thing I need it to do.

I can't find any place to designate it to sow the archived messages in HTML format so 
the images can be seen and the attachments can be downloaded.

It probably isn't you job to explain the problem to me but maybe you could aim me at 
someone who can help.  The program is installed on my hosting service.
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[Mailman-Users] mailman and sympa

2003-10-06 Thread bouhaddou
hello everyone,
I have a problem.  I have a formed data base on mysql of 1000 users 
(1000 members of a mailing list Sympa).  I want to use Mailman in the 
place of Sympa, but the problem is how to return these 1000 users 
members of a Mailman list. 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Qrunner with 98% load

2003-10-06 Thread Jon Carnes
On Mon, 2003-10-06 at 06:26, Wim Bonis wrote:
 Hello List,
 
 I just upgrades my Server to mailman 2.1.3, and it basicly works, but some
 messages trigger a 98% load of qrunner.
 
 The messages are in qfiles/out and get renamed more than once in a second.
 There is no log entry in logs or syslog.
 
 I already read the archives about the qrunner with over 90% CPU subject.
 But in that thread the people blame the MTA reporting a 451. I straced and
 tcpdumped the qrunner, and it does not try to contact the MTA.
 
 What else can i try to get more useful debugging output?

Look in the log files for both Mailman and your MTA to see what is going
on.

Also, stop Mailmanctl and look at the files in the queue.

Jon Carnes


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mass subscriptions w/names

2003-10-06 Thread John DeCarlo
Allan,

I simply use the format:

First Last email-address

which works very well.  There should also be a message from Barry in the 
mail archives listing several other supported options.

Allan Trick wrote:

Now that I've got 2.1.3 installed, I have that empty name field on every 
record since it didn't exist in the previous version.  My lists can all 
be reloaded, but I'm not sure what format the file should be that I add 
them with should be in.  Where is this documented?  I'm assuming it's 
just tab-delimited, but thought I'd check before I futz around with it.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] All recipients refused

2003-10-06 Thread Jon Carnes
Look in your MTA logs to see what they say. It could be that your
postfix is not setup to allow you to post or relay through it.  This is
probably an MTA issue.

I would say that you should check for Postfix listening on 127.0.0.1,
but if it's working for some lists then Postfix must be doing that
already.

Good luck - Jon Carnes

On Mon, 2003-10-06 at 00:29, ljacobs wrote:
 I just installed Mailman 2.1.3 on a FreeBSD system, migrating from 2.1.1 on RH Linux.
 Apparently I have done something wrong.  Installation went well, check_perms reports 
 no problems however although a small test list delivers fine, when I try to send to 
 my converted (6500 member list) list I see that postfix accepts the message and 
 passes it to the mailman wrapper but then nothing happens.  A check of the mailman 
 log directory reports the following.
 
 post:
 Oct 06 00:13:35 2003 (26522) post to kenwilber from [EMAIL PROTECTED], size=2239, 
 message-id=[EMAIL PROTECTED], 6526 failures
 
 qrunner:
 looks normal.
 
 smtp:
 Oct 06 00:23:40 2003 (26522) All recipients refused: Connection unexpectedly closed
 
 smtp-failure:
 Oct 06 00:26:18 2003 (26522) delivery to [EMAIL PROTECTED] failed with code -1: 
 ignore
 Oct 06 00:26:18 2003 (26522) delivery to [EMAIL PROTECTED] failed with code -1: 
 ignore
 Oct 06 00:26:18 2003 (26522) delivery to [EMAIL PROTECTED] failed with code -1: 
 ignore
 ...
 
 subscribe:
 looks normal.
 
 All my tests lists are working fine so I am puzzled by this failure.
 
 FreeBSD 4.7
 Postfix 2.0.14
 Mailman 2.1.3
 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Qrunner with 98% load

2003-10-06 Thread Wim Bonis
On Mon, 2003-10-06 at 17:46, Jon Carnes wrote:
 On Mon, 2003-10-06 at 06:26, Wim Bonis wrote:
  Hello List,
  
  I just upgrades my Server to mailman 2.1.3, and it basicly works, but some
  messages trigger a 98% load of qrunner.
  
  The messages are in qfiles/out and get renamed more than once in a second.
  There is no log entry in logs or syslog.
  
  I already read the archives about the qrunner with over 90% CPU subject.
  But in that thread the people blame the MTA reporting a 451. I straced and
  tcpdumped the qrunner, and it does not try to contact the MTA.
  
  What else can i try to get more useful debugging output?
 
 Look in the log files for both Mailman and your MTA to see what is going
 on.
 
 Also, stop Mailmanctl and look at the files in the queue.

I did all this already, there is nothing in the logfiles, even if i
start with qrunner -v -o -r Outgoing

There also no traffic/logs for the MTA

The pck files look fine, It is e.g. a message to the normal list
address.

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[Mailman-Users] Mailman puts footer in MIME attachment

2003-10-06 Thread Mark Koek
Hello list,

After I added some lines to the footer of my list run by Mailman 2.1, it 
has started converting the list messages (plain old text only) into 
multipart/mixed MIME messages, with the footer in a separate text/plain 
attachment.

Subscribers are complaining because not all mail clients can handle this 
properly, apparently.

Is there a way to switch off this behaviour? I haven't found anything in 
the web interface.

Mark

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[Mailman-Users] mass subscription with personalization on

2003-10-06 Thread Chris Gozdzik
I have no root access to the server, but have a good host that turned the 
personalization on for me.
I'm trying to move from another script that used subscriber list with first name and e-
mail address - I'd like to use this, but don't know how to enter it in mass 
subscribing. 
I've tried putting the first name in front, separated by coma or without - it wouldn't 
work.
I couldn't find this info in the faq and would really appreciate your help with it.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Qrunner with 98% load

2003-10-06 Thread Jon Carnes
On Mon, 2003-10-06 at 12:01, Wim Bonis wrote:

 I did all this already, there is nothing in the logfiles, even if i
 start with qrunner -v -o -r Outgoing
 
 There also no traffic/logs for the MTA
 
 The pck files look fine, It is e.g. a message to the normal list
 address.

Yet this message hangs out in the queue? Or rather the queue is stalled
out on it?

If you delete this message and send a different message to a different
list what happens?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman and sympa

2003-10-06 Thread Jon Carnes
On Mon, 2003-10-06 at 11:26, bouhaddou wrote:
 hello everyone,
 I have a problem.  I have a formed data base on mysql of 1000 users 
 (1000 members of a mailing list Sympa).  I want to use Mailman in the 
 place of Sympa, but the problem is how to return these 1000 users 
 members of a Mailman list. 
 and thank you.
 
Dump the email addresses out to text file and then use Mailman's tools
to move the addresses into your Mailman list.  Either add_members or
sync_members should work fine.

BTW: I've been keeping an eye on Sympa:
  http://www.sympa.org/

Can you tell us why you've decided to move over to Mailman instead?

Good Luck, and Thanks - Jon Carnes



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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman puts footer in MIME attachment

2003-10-06 Thread Ben Gertzfield
Mark Koek wrote:

Hello list,

After I added some lines to the footer of my list run by Mailman 2.1, 
it has started converting the list messages (plain old text only) into 
multipart/mixed MIME messages, with the footer in a separate 
text/plain attachment.

Subscribers are complaining because not all mail clients can handle 
this properly, apparently.

Is there a way to switch off this behaviour? I haven't found anything 
in the web interface.


This is fast becoming a FAQ.

The reason Mailman does this, is because your list is configured for a 
different character set than the incoming emails.  For example, if it's 
set for German (ISO-8859-1), and someone sends a message in UTF-8, the 
footer cannot be directly added to the message, and needs to be attached 
separately.

There is a patch available that attempts to coerce all emails to Unicode 
so footers can be safely added.

http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=664209group_id=103atid=300103

Ben



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[Mailman-Users] Re: Default conceal from subscriber list

2003-10-06 Thread Paul H Byerly
Todd wrote:
Well, I found one nice problem with it today, that shows how little I
know about python.  If you actually used the -o option to pass in the
value, your list will be broken.
 Had not done that, so did not notice it.  In addition the value is 
based on a total of 511, and it will override some things set other ways, 
so dig up the information in Default.py before going wild with it.

I didn't set the option as an
integer so it was getting written to the config.pck file as a string.
Ooops, that was smart of me.  Change
options = arg
to
options = int(arg)

if you're keeping that script around.  And be careful that there's not
anything else horridly broken about it.
 Done.  Never throw out a good script - especially when the hard drive 
is only 21% full!

 BTW, love the sig file.

Thanks, it's lovingly (an unapologetically) ripped off from many good
sources.
 And I have taken it from you and added it to my collection

 Paul 

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RE: [Mailman-Users] Qrunner with 98% load

2003-10-06 Thread Wim Bonis
  The pck files look fine, It is e.g. a message to the normal list 
  address.
 
 Yet this message hangs out in the queue? Or rather the queue 
 is stalled out on it?
 
 If you delete this message and send a different message to a 
 different list what happens?

Normal messages just go thru.

I looked a little bit more arround, the messages which make the problems, 
are already delivered to the list and have been processed to the other 
members.

But in the .db file they are two emailadresses in the recip-Filed which are 
not resolvable (no MX record for the emaildomain).

So i know now what the main Problem is

But is this the right behavior which mailman shows? I think the way it 
should work is it should try to deliver the messages again to the MTA, and 
Wait for the response from the MTA. (And it should not take all the
CPU-Time)

Is there anything in mailman which can explain this behavior? Does mailman
lookup
DNS/MX entrys before contacting the MTA. Or dos mailman has a internal state
of 
already failed messages?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mail not sending mail problem

2003-10-06 Thread Mike Alberghini
As it turned out, one of the other sysadmins created a list to collect
the bounced mail from our mail servers.  Every bounce going to gsu.edu
was being sent to one mailman list.  In about 12 hours that was over 11000
messages.  

The problem was that the mailman ArchRunner was struggling to keep up.
It was hogging the CPU on the box and keeping anything else from happening.
Mailman was under Denail of Service attack from our own webserver. :)

I just thought I'd let the list know this happened, because someone could
use this to screw up a mailman server rather easily.



On Mon, Oct 06, 2003 at 11:17:56AM -0400, Mike Alberghini wrote:
 Last week I upgraded mailman from 2.1.1 to 2.1.3.  Over the weekend mailman
 apparently stopped sending mail.  Sunday night it just stopped posting.
 I have spent the morning fiddling around with it and here is what I know:
 
 1.  almost 22,000 have built up in mailman/qfiles/in
 2.  moving all of these out allowed mail to start flowing again
 3.  my error log has countless 'lost data files for filebase' entries
 4.  if I move some of the old qfiles back into mailman/qfiles/in, they
 don't get sent.
 
 Can anyone give me an idea of how to trace down the cause of this problem?
 Is there any way to get the 22,000 old qfiles sent?
 
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[Mailman-Users] My own malman.po file

2003-10-06 Thread Christian Schoepplein
Hi!

We use mailman for a community and we want to create our own 
mailman messages, for example when a mail was blocked because of 
attachments etc. I know how to create our own settings by editing the 
mailman.po file and bring it into a binaary message catalog format with 
msgfmt.py.

But what is the best way to use such a own binary message catalog after 
a mailman update? Surely mailman.po changes from time to time and I can't 
use an old .po file with a new mailman version... Are there any chances to 
include an old .po or .mo file after an upgrade?

thanks and best regards,
Schoeppi

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[Mailman-Users] Where are URL's stored?

2003-10-06 Thread Allan Trick
I've hunted all over and haven't found the spot.  I need to fix the way the 
send questions and comments link on our main admin web page is displayed 
(it now says [EMAIL PROTECTED]) and also in the emails the system 
generates, it's telling list owners and new subscribers things like:

  You can configure your mailing list at the following web page:

http://mail.prin.edu/mailman/admin/mailman

That should be www not mail.  I see in the English templates 
directories things like %(listinfo_url)s  - where does it fill that URL in 
from?

Thank you!!

Allan

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Where are URL's stored?

2003-10-06 Thread Richard Barrett
The bones of what you need to solve your problem are explained on this 
page of the Mailman FAQ, although it may not be immediately obvoius 
that this is the case:

http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.029.htp

also check the comments about the referenced MM variables in 
$prefix/Mailman/Defaults.py

The URLs associated with a list are dynamically generated. If the 
virtual host associated with a list is changed per the FAQ, the 
consequence is that the URLs referring to the list/on the list web 
pages are changed. At one level, you question is a non-sequitur as the 
URL's are not stored in the way you may be thinking. That said, the 
web_page_url and host_name attributes of a list are what do the things 
you are thinking about.

On Monday, October 6, 2003, at 09:42  pm, Allan Trick wrote:

I've hunted all over and haven't found the spot.  I need to fix the 
way the send questions and comments link on our main admin web page 
is displayed (it now says [EMAIL PROTECTED]) and also in the 
emails the system generates, it's telling list owners and new 
subscribers things like:

  You can configure your mailing list at the following web page:

http://mail.prin.edu/mailman/admin/mailman

That should be www not mail.  I see in the English templates 
directories things like %(listinfo_url)s  - where does it fill that 
URL in from?

Thank you!!

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[Mailman-Users] Password reminders for virtual hosts...

2003-10-06 Thread David Pieper
I have a question about the monthly password reminders and virtual hosts.

How can I get the monthly password reminders to come from each virtual host?
Everything else is nicely separated. The web sites work fine. Regular 
list messages work fine. It's just the password reminders that throw a 
wrench in it.

 From the FAQ:?

 4.25. What is the purpose of the site-wide mailing list?

 The site-wide mailing list is for errors and warnings generated by
 Mailman. It is also where password reminders appear to come from.
The problem is that the password reminders return path, message-id, 
list-id, etc., have lists.domain.tld all over it, instead of having 
lists.virtual-domain.tld on it. This causes a bunch of mail to come to 
me, rather than to the virtual domains admin.

Is there any way to have a virtual site-wide mailing list so that each 
host can look like they have their own Mailman installation?

I hope that all makes sense.

Enjoy,
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[Mailman-Users] Showing chunks of names

2003-10-06 Thread Allan Trick
In the FAQ, it says:

4.30. How do I configure the admin webpage to show more members per page?

Change the setting in DEFAULT_ADMIN_MEMBER_CHUNKSIZE in mm_cfg.py The 
description is in Defaults.py.
And mine is set for 30 (same as it was in 2.0.x).  But it doesn't look like 
name are displayed in chunks in the new version of MM.  Yet I have users 
asking for that capability, even though they now have much easier ways to 
search for members than they ever had before!

Is that chunksize setting just a remnant of the old version that displayed 
names in chunks?  Any way to display all list members on one page?  (I 
don't think there is, but thought I'd better ask so I can satisfy these 
folks with the right answer!)

Thanks,

Allan

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Showing chunks of names

2003-10-06 Thread Allan Trick
While I haven't found a way to *display* chunks of names any more in the 
new Mailman, I thought I would post in response to my own question that if 
anyone else has the same question, the command sent back to the 
list-request address with who followed by the list password, returns a 
complete list of all the names.  This is going to meet my need

Allan

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