[Mailman-Users] ban_list example?

2003-10-13 Thread David Gibbs
Anyone have a simple example of using a regex in the ban_list setting?

Say I want to ban everyone from xyz.com and [EMAIL PROTECTED] from subscribing?

I tried ...

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
... but got an invalid value error.

I'm using MM 2.1.3

Thanks!

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[Mailman-Users] Outbox Flooded

2003-10-13 Thread Hostmaster
Red Hat 9.0 with Mailman using Postfix as the MTA, we've managed to flood the outbox 
(whatever that is) with thousands of accidental messages that resulted from a series 
of poor choices in the setup.  

A nasty situation is upon us, sending out countless unintened (and unwanted) messages 
in the name of Mailman.

We are despirately trying to discover the origin, queue, or otherwise staging file of 
the messages so we can pre-empt their transfer.

The majority of these are messages generated from automated notifications within 
Mailman.

I have attempted to use a previously recommended prompt command (postsuper -d ALL but 
this seems to only empty the Postfix queue.  The messasges keep coming!  It appears 
they are being genereated and then delivered to Postfix.

Does anyone have an idea where we can terminate the messages before they get to 
Postfix and are sent?


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[Mailman-Users] Mail not getting through to AOL

2003-10-13 Thread Allan Trick
Has anyone worked out problems with getting mail through to AOL users?  I 
have some members of our lists that claim they are not getting our 
messages, but they're also not returning bounced to Mailman.  So I'm not 
sure what to do.  I suspect there are some kind of filtering options in AOL 
and that they have to open up all mail coming in from our domain in order 
to get it (like has to be done with Hotmail).  But I don't have an AOL 
account and can't tell them exactly what to do.  Any guidance on what to 
tell our AOL folks how to receive mail sent through Mailman would be 
appreciated.

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[Mailman-Users] UnpicklingError: unpickling stack underflow

2003-10-13 Thread mjc
Good morning--

Trying to get to mailman this morning, I get a stack trace

   Traceback:

Traceback (most recent call last):
 File /var/mailman/scripts/driver, line 87, in run_main
   main()
 File /var/tmp/mailman-root/var/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/listinfo.py, line 42, in main
 File /var/tmp/mailman-root/var/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/listinfo.py, line 85, in 
listinfo_overview
 File /var/tmp/mailman-root/var/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py, line 101, in __init__
 File /var/tmp/mailman-root/var/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py, line 573, in Load
 File /var/tmp/mailman-root/var/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py, line 546, in __load
UnpicklingError: unpickling stack underflow
I followed the only information I could find and replaced each config.pck 
with config.pck.last, trying to get in after each change.  None of the replacements fixed the
problem and all config.pck 's are now back to the original state.

I don't read python, though I scanned each of the files indicated in the trace. 

Any help would be appreciated

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Re: [Mailman-Users] ban_list example?

2003-10-13 Thread Skip Montanaro

David I tried ...

David [EMAIL PROTECTED]
David [EMAIL PROTECTED]

David ... but got an invalid value error.

Try

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Outbox Flooded

2003-10-13 Thread Jon Carnes
Well if the messages are coming from mailman, then you should stop
Mailmanctl, examine the messages, and then correct the problem.
   service mailman stop

The messages will have the listname that generated them.

Note, that messages could also be generated by cron jobs, so you might
also need to stop cron, or simply comment out all the cron scripts.
  crontab -u mailman -e

Good Luck - Jon Carnes

On Mon, 2003-10-13 at 09:51, Hostmaster wrote:
 Red Hat 9.0 with Mailman using Postfix as the MTA, we've managed to flood the 
 outbox (whatever that is) with thousands of accidental messages that resulted from 
 a series of poor choices in the setup.  
 
 A nasty situation is upon us, sending out countless unintened (and unwanted) 
 messages in the name of Mailman.
 
 We are despirately trying to discover the origin, queue, or otherwise staging file 
 of the messages so we can pre-empt their transfer.
 
 The majority of these are messages generated from automated notifications within 
 Mailman.
 
 I have attempted to use a previously recommended prompt command (postsuper -d ALL 
 but this seems to only empty the Postfix queue.  The messasges keep coming!  It 
 appears they are being genereated and then delivered to Postfix.
 
 Does anyone have an idea where we can terminate the messages before they get to 
 Postfix and are sent?
 
 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] ban_list example?

2003-10-13 Thread Scott Lambert
On Mon, Oct 13, 2003 at 11:31:57AM -0500, Skip Montanaro wrote:
 
 David I tried ...
 
 David [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 David [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 David ... but got an invalid value error.
 
 Try
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Not knowing anything about mailman's use of these values:

The ^.*something regex is equivalent to just something.  

^.* is useless, confusing and should never be used in a regex for the
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mail not getting through to AOL

2003-10-13 Thread Jon Carnes
On Mon, 2003-10-13 at 12:18, Allan Trick wrote:
 Has anyone worked out problems with getting mail through to AOL users?  I 
 have some members of our lists that claim they are not getting our 
 messages, but they're also not returning bounced to Mailman.  So I'm not 
 sure what to do.  I suspect there are some kind of filtering options in AOL 
 and that they have to open up all mail coming in from our domain in order 
 to get it (like has to be done with Hotmail).  But I don't have an AOL 
 account and can't tell them exactly what to do.  Any guidance on what to 
 tell our AOL folks how to receive mail sent through Mailman would be 
 appreciated.
 
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This is covered quite throughly in the archives. Verping your mail will
help, and may solve the problem (look up verp in the FAQ).

The problem *may* be that you have too many aol recipients in one piece
of mail.  You can change this in your MTA or you can try to change this
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SMTP_MAX_RCPTS = 5

Good Luck - and have fun reading the archs!

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[Mailman-Users] Re: ban_list example?

2003-10-13 Thread David Gibbs
Scott Lambert wrote:
Not knowing anything about mailman's use of these values:
Well, that's kind of important, don't you think?

The ^.*something regex is equivalent to just something.  
Since the caret ^ means that this entry in the ban_list setting is a 
regular expression, and not part of the regular express itself, 
.*something means match anything that begins ends in something.

Seems pretty easy to me.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mail not getting through to AOL

2003-10-13 Thread Vivek Khera
 AT == Allan Trick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

AT and that they have to open up all mail coming in from our domain in order 
AT to get it (like has to be done with Hotmail).  But I don't have an AOL 
AT account and can't tell them exactly what to do.  Any guidance on what to 
AT tell our AOL folks how to receive mail sent through Mailman would be 
AT appreciated.

AOL 8 and AOL 9 introduced many new features with regard to blocking
mail.  I'd check that they didn't inadvertently turn on some of those
tools without also allowing your messages through.  Also check out
aol's 'postmaster' web site postmaster.info.aol.com, and see what they
have to say about blocking and filtering.  Check your mail server logs
too for some AOL deliveries and see what they say.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] ban_list example?

2003-10-13 Thread Skip Montanaro

 Try
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Scott Not knowing anything about mailman's use of these values:

Scott The ^.*something regex is equivalent to just something.  

Scott ^.* is useless, confusing and should never be used in a regex
Scott for the regex libraries with which I am familiar.

I realized it was superfluous shortly after posting.  I was focusing on the
missing '.' (really, just about anything) in the OP's post.  @xyz.com
should be sufficient, unless Mailman uses re.match() for this particular
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[Mailman-Users] Not knowing what address is subscribed

2003-10-13 Thread Allan Trick
We're getting some people wanting to check their address in Mailman to see 
how we subscribed them (we seeded lists with extracts from our main 
database), and they don't know what address we used for them.

The only way I can think of is to have them type in one at a time and ask 
for a password to be mailed.  But Mailman is kind of stupid and says it's 
sending a password reminder to whatever address you type in, whether it's 
subscribed or not.

Is there any way for a person to confirm the address they're subscribed 
under?  Or for Mailman to tell them That address is not subscribed if 
they type in one that isn't?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] ban_list example?

2003-10-13 Thread Richard Barrett
On Monday, October 13, 2003, at 06:28  pm, Scott Lambert wrote:

On Mon, Oct 13, 2003 at 11:31:57AM -0500, Skip Montanaro wrote:
David I tried ...

David [EMAIL PROTECTED]
David [EMAIL PROTECTED]
David ... but got an invalid value error.

Try

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Not knowing anything about mailman's use of these values:

The ^.*something regex is equivalent to just something.

^.* is useless, confusing and should never be used in a regex for the
regex libraries with which I am familiar.
The regex says, and will only be true if:

^   match at start of email address string
.*  match any string i.e.any alias
@   match a following @ character
xyz.com match a given mail domain. Actually, this would be better as 
xyz\.com so that a literal period was matched rather than any character 
between the xyz and com substrings matching.

So what is wrong with that.

Personally I would have said the following to tighten up the 
specification but that is just my prejudices:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]@xyz\.com$

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Re: [Mailman-Users] ban_list example?

2003-10-13 Thread Richard Barrett
On Monday, October 13, 2003, at 07:51  pm, Skip Montanaro wrote:


Try

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Scott Not knowing anything about mailman's use of these values:

Scott The ^.*something regex is equivalent to just something.

Scott ^.* is useless, confusing and should never be used in a 
regex
Scott for the regex libraries with which I am familiar.

I realized it was superfluous shortly after posting.  I was focusing 
on the
missing '.' (really, just about anything) in the OP's post.  @xyz.com
should be sufficient, unless Mailman uses re.match() for this 
particular
The ban_list check uses regex and re.search iff the first char is ^ BUT 
the ^ is not removed so regex matching is always effectively anchored 
at the start of the string because it is always a single line.

So you have to match for the local-part before matching for the domain 
even if .* is acceptable.

Without the leading ^ the ban_list comparison done is a simple string 
equality test with no wildcards or such; that's what regular 
expressions are for.

task.

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[Mailman-Users] Site list is missing: mailman

2003-10-13 Thread Michael D. Hensley
With help from this list, I got mailman installed and running on RedHat
GNU/Linux 9.0. I got a list set up, and sent several messages using it
(it's a weekly, announcement-only type list).

Recently, however (probably since I last re-booted the Linux server),
mailman has stopped working.

When I try:

/var/mailman/bin/mailmanctl start

I get:

Site list is missing: mailman

I'm guessing I failed to add something to the system start up process,
but I can't figure out what it could be.

Any suggestions?

I looked at the FAQ, and glanced through the documentation, but didn't
see this message. Even more valuable than just the answer would be a
pointer to where I should have been able to find it.

Much thanks!

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Site list is missing: mailman

2003-10-13 Thread Richard Barrett
On Monday, October 13, 2003, at 09:00  pm, Michael D. Hensley wrote:

With help from this list, I got mailman installed and running on RedHat
GNU/Linux 9.0. I got a list set up, and sent several messages using it
(it's a weekly, announcement-only type list).
Recently, however (probably since I last re-booted the Linux server),
mailman has stopped working.
When I try:

/var/mailman/bin/mailmanctl start

I get:

Site list is missing: mailman

I'm guessing I failed to add something to the system start up process,
but I can't figure out what it could be.
See:

http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq05.005.htp

which basically says create a list called 'mailman' before running 
bin/mailmanctrl start

Any suggestions?

I looked at the FAQ, and glanced through the documentation, but didn't
see this message. Even more valuable than just the answer would be a
pointer to where I should have been able to find it.
Much thanks!

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Not knowing what address is subscribed

2003-10-13 Thread Ed Wilts
On Mon, Oct 13, 2003 at 02:12:32PM -0500, Allan Trick wrote:
 We're getting some people wanting to check their address in Mailman to see 
 how we subscribed them (we seeded lists with extracts from our main 
 database), and they don't know what address we used for them.

That's why personalization is a good idea.  For example, you'll note
that mailman-users is personalized - every message has a footer that
tells you what the address is.
 
 Is there any way for a person to confirm the address they're subscribed 
 under?  Or for Mailman to tell them That address is not subscribed if 
 they type in one that isn't?

The user may be able to figure it out from the headers but my guess is
that if they can't remmeber what address they used, and they forward
from address to address, they're unlikely to have the skills necessary
to look at the headers.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mail not getting through to AOL

2003-10-13 Thread Brad Knowles
At 11:18 AM -0500 2003/10/13, Allan Trick wrote:

 Has anyone worked out problems with getting mail through to AOL users?
 I have some members of our lists that claim they are not getting our
 messages, but they're also not returning bounced to Mailman.  So I'm
 not sure what to do.  I suspect there are some kind of filtering
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 our domain in order to get it (like has to be done with Hotmail).
	AOL definitely has anti-spam filters that can result in mail from 
your server or domain being discarded, if you send them too much mail 
in a given period of time.  And woe betide you if you wind up 
generating too many bounces in a given period of time.

	See http://postmaster.info.aol.com for more info.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Not knowing what address is subscribed

2003-10-13 Thread Skip Montanaro

Allan We're getting some people wanting to check their address in
Allan Mailman to see how we subscribed them (we seeded lists with
Allan extracts from our main database), and they don't know what
Allan address we used for them.

This is kinda techno-nerdy which might not match your user population very
well, but in many/most situations people should be able to look at the
Received: headers (when the personalization footer is absent) and work their
way from bottom to top to see what address of theirs is subscribed based
upon who it's being delivered to.  Here are the Received: headers I got from
your message, numbered for convenience:

7. Received: from localhost [127.0.0.1] by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-6.1.0)
  for [EMAIL PROTECTED] (single-drop); Mon, 13 Oct 2003 14:16:20 -0500 
(CDT)
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3. Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=mail.python.org)
  by mail.python.org with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1A987Y-0005WZ-Ip
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2. Received: from [155.106.252.242] (helo=mail.prin.edu)
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The server running Mailman will probably talk directly to the MX host for
the destination domain.  In this case, [EMAIL PROTECTED] appears in #3 while
the message is still on mail.python.org as well as in #4 once it gets to
dolly1.pobox.com.

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[Mailman-Users] script to view all lists and subscribers in one file

2003-10-13 Thread Merle Reine
I have over 181 mailing lists with numerous users on each list.  I need a 
way to list all the lists and their respective users/admin/list mod in one 
file.

I know there is the : list_lists and list_members, etc.  but one only 
lists lists and no users, the other, list users but I have to run the 
script for each list.

Has anyone found a way/wrote a script to output all of the lists and their 
users for easier management?  If my boss asks me what lists he is on, I 
have to search each list.  I would like to run: ./list_all  all_lists.txt 
and have it output:

381 lists
Abuse
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [list moderator]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
staff
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [list moderator]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
etc.
All in one outputted list for any employee to view via some url I move the 
outputted file to.

Also, If I make the lists not visible via URL, i.e. 
http://domain.com/mailman/listinfo then how can I manage them as an admin 
unless I know all of the list names (381 so far)?

Can I make them not publicly viewable but still be able to view them via 
the web as an admin as a list?

Once not viewable, http://domain.com/mailman/admin does not show the lists 
either.

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[Mailman-Users] How to approve a moderated post via email reply?

2003-10-13 Thread Merle Reine
I have a moderated list of [EMAIL PROTECTED]  When the list moderator 
gets an email to approve/deny a post, I know he gets a url to go to to 
approve/deny the post.  It also talks about replying to the email with an 
Approved subject and password to approve the post via email reply.

Does anyone know the format of the reply?  I have tried Approve 
Approved  with the password etc, in the subject of the reply but none 
work.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Not knowing what address is subscribed

2003-10-13 Thread Allan Trick
At 04:44 PM 10/13/2003, Skip wrote:

This is kinda techno-nerdy which might not match your user population very 
well, but in many/most situations people should be able to look at the 
Received: headers (when the personalization footer is absent) and work 
their way from bottom to top to see what address of theirs is subscribed 
based upon who it's being delivered to.  Here are the Received: headers I 
got from your message, numbered for convenience: . . . .
I did a test and saw my own address in the header.  However, in trying to 
explain to the user over the phone that she could see the addressed 
subscribed, she swore it wasn't there.  So I took her word for 
it.  However, I believe if she was showing full headers, it probably would 
have been there.

I like the suggestion to personalize the footer.  I'm going to do that so 
it'll say what address is subscribed.

Thanks for everyone's help!

Allan

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[Mailman-Users] Mailman, Exim and Wrapper..,

2003-10-13 Thread Brad W. Galiette
I am running Mailman 2.1.3 with Exim 3 on a CPanel environment (Linux).
While I have successfully installed Mailman and have configured my web
server to respond to HTTP requests properly, the actual attempts to send
mail to a list have failed because of a problem with the GID wrapper.  I
have changed this to many values by recompiling and while I have been able
to receive intermittent performance, CPanel is configured in such a way so
that Exim is launches under *many* different GIDs as opposed to a single
such identifier.  Is there any way in which I can disable the wrapper GID
check, modify it so that it operates with CPanel, or obtain a version
(source or binary) of Mailman that does not have this check?

Thank you in advance for your support!

Regards,
Brad Galiette



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Re: [Mailman-Users] script to view all lists and subscribers in one file

2003-10-13 Thread Jon Carnes
~mailman/bin/find_member boss' email address

On Mon, 2003-10-13 at 18:08, Merle Reine wrote:
 I have over 181 mailing lists with numerous users on each list.  I need a 
 way to list all the lists and their respective users/admin/list mod in one 
 file.
 
 I know there is the : list_lists and list_members, etc.  but one only 
 lists lists and no users, the other, list users but I have to run the 
 script for each list.
 
 Has anyone found a way/wrote a script to output all of the lists and their 
 users for easier management?  If my boss asks me what lists he is on, I 
 have to search each list.  I would like to run: ./list_all  all_lists.txt 
 and have it output:
 
 381 lists
 Abuse
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [list moderator]
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 staff
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [list moderator]
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   etc.
 
 All in one outputted list for any employee to view via some url I move the 
 outputted file to.
 
 Also, If I make the lists not visible via URL, i.e. 
 http://domain.com/mailman/listinfo then how can I manage them as an admin 
 unless I know all of the list names (381 so far)?
 
 Can I make them not publicly viewable but still be able to view them via 
 the web as an admin as a list?
 
 Once not viewable, http://domain.com/mailman/admin does not show the lists 
 either.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Rebuild list archives

2003-10-13 Thread Jon Carnes
On Sat, 2003-10-11 at 14:16, Christian Schoepplein wrote:
 Hello!
 
 What do I have to do for rebuild dayly based listarchives into monthly 
 based archs? At the moment I see a link for evry day on my archive page 
 but I want to have a monthly view. I've allready reconfigured the 
 listconfig from dayly to monthly archiving, but after running $bin/arch I 
 have still the links for evry day... :-(
 
 Can someone give me a hint?
 
 Best regards and thanks,
 Schoeppi

Run arch with the --wipe option. That will remove the old archives
first.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman, Exim and Wrapper..,

2003-10-13 Thread Jeffrey Goldberg
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003, Brad W. Galiette wrote:

 CPanel is configured in such a way so that Exim is launches under *many*
 different GIDs as opposed to a single such identifier.  Is there any way
 in which I can disable the wrapper GID check, modify it so that it
 operates with CPanel, or obtain a version (source or binary) of Mailman
 that does not have this check?

Better still, you can modify your exim configure file to have a special
director for the mailman alias which specified the GID that any such
deliveries be run under.

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[Mailman-Users] Re: script to view all lists and subscribers in one file

2003-10-13 Thread Paul H Byerly
Merle Reine wrote:
Can I make them not publicly viewable but still be able to view them via
the web as an admin as a list?
Once not viewable, http://domain.com/mailman/admin does not show the lists
either.
 Write your own admin page with links.  I have one that uses a meta to 
refresh periodically because I have a cron job that lets me know when a 
list has pending messages.  I've attached the top of the table and the per 
list entry for my admin page, with the cron jobs below it.  Every other row 
has no colour set in the tr, to give an easy to read table.
 Note that the member count is not the best way to do it, I just have 
not had time to fix it.

 Paul table border=1 cellpadding=1 cellspacing=2 width=780 
bgcolor=#e3bda3
tr
td align=center width=145Admin/brWeb Site/td
td width=60 align=centerPend/td
td align=center width=70Members/td
td width=230 align=centerMembers/td
td width=60 align=centerArchives/td
td width=40 align=centerInfo Page/td
td width=50 align=centerHTML Pages/td
tdnbsp;/td
/tr

tr bgcolor=#EED5C4
td align=centera 
href=http://foo.bar.com/mailman/admin/listname/generaltarget=_blankTMB 
Main/abr
a 
href=http://www.listname.com/index.shtml target=_blankWebSite/a/td
td align=centera 
href=http://foo.bar.com/mailman/admindb/listname target=_blank
!--#include virtual=/mmcount/listname 
--/a/td
td align=centera 
href=http://foo.bar.com/mailman/admin/listname/members/add target=_blankadd/a
bra 
href=http://foo.bar.com/mailman/admin/listname/members/list target=_blank
 !--#include 
virtual=/mmcount/listnamecount.html --/a/td
td align=center width=230
a href=http://foo.bar.com/mailman/admin/listname/members?letter=1 
target=_blank1/a
a href=http://foo.bar.com/mailman/admin/listname/members?letter=a 
target=_blankA/a
a href=http://foo.bar.com/mailman/admin/listname/members?letter=b 
target=_blankB/a
a href=http://foo.bar.com/mailman/admin/listname/members?letter=c 
target=_blankC/a
a href=http://foo.bar.com/mailman/admin/listname/members?letter=d 
target=_blankD/a
a href=http://foo.bar.com/mailman/admin/listname/members?letter=e 
target=_blankE/a
a href=http://foo.bar.com/mailman/admin/listname/members?letter=f 
target=_blankF/a
a href=http://foo.bar.com/mailman/admin/listname/members?letter=g 
target=_blankG/a
a href=http://foo.bar.com/mailman/admin/listname/members?letter=h 
target=_blankH/a
a href=http://foo.bar.com/mailman/admin/listname/members?letter=i 
target=_blankI/a
a href=http://foo.bar.com/mailman/admin/listname/members?letter=j 
target=_blankJ/a
a href=http://foo.bar.com/mailman/admin/listname/members?letter=k 
target=_blankK/a
a href=http://foo.bar.com/mailman/admin/listname/members?letter=l 
target=_blankL/a
a href=http://foo.bar.com/mailman/admin/listname/members?letter=m 
target=_blankM/a
br
a href=http://foo.bar.com/mailman/admin/listname/members?letter=n 
target=_blankN/a
a href=http://foo.bar.com/mailman/admin/listname/members?letter=o 
target=_blankO/a
a href=http://foo.bar.com/mailman/admin/listname/members?letter=p 
target=_blankP/a
a href=http://foo.bar.com/mailman/admin/listname/members?letter=q 
target=_blankQ/a
a href=http://foo.bar.com/mailman/admin/listname/members?letter=r 
target=_blankR/a
a href=http://foo.bar.com/mailman/admin/listname/members?letter=s 
target=_blankS/a
a href=http://foo.bar.com/mailman/admin/listname/members?letter=t 
target=_blankT/a
a href=http://foo.bar.com/mailman/admin/listname/members?letter=u 
target=_blankU/a
a href=http://foo.bar.com/mailman/admin/listname/members?letter=v 
target=_blankV/a
a href=http://foo.bar.com/mailman/admin/listname/members?letter=w 
target=_blankW/a
a href=http://foo.bar.com/mailman/admin/listname/members?letter=x 
target=_blankX/a
a href=http://foo.bar.com/mailman/admin/listname/members?letter=y 
target=_blankY/a
a href=http://foo.bar.com/mailman/admin/listname/members?letter=z 
target=_blankZ/a
/td
td align=centera 
href=http://foo.bar.com/mailman/private/listname/ target=_blankarchive/a/td
td align=centera 
href=http://foo.bar.com/mailman/listinfo/listname target=_blankinfo/a/td
td align=centera 
href=http://foo.bar.com/mailman/edithtml/listname target=_blankedit/a/td
td align=center/td
/tr