[Mailman-Users] Second post: Admin/ListInfo problem

2003-12-29 Thread Michael Baehr
I've already posted once on this problem here:

http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/msg21418.html

But I thought I'd make a second post as I've quite narrowed down 
exactly what's occurring (and I appear to have misreported the problem 
as well).

When I go to the listinfo or admin panels, any of the global links, 
such as create a new mailing list and the mailing list overview 
page, as well as the mailto (send questions and comments to ... ) are 
broken.  My web server runs on port 312 thanks to my ISP's wise 
decision of blocking port 80, so I went through the necessary steps to 
configure Mailman to function properly with this (searching the 
archives for quite a bit certainly helped).  Here's my mm_cfg.py ( host 
changed to foo.com )

MTA = 'Postfix'
IMAGE_LOGOS = '/icons/'
DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'mail.foo.com'
DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'foo.com'
DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'http://%s:312/mailman/'
PUBLIC_ARCHIVE_URL = 'http://%(hostname)s:312/pipermail/%(listname)s'
add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST)
When I say broken, I mean that these links are using the Hosts: line 
passed to them by apache as (hostname) instead of the one specified as 
DEFAULT_URL_HOST.  When I go to the admin/listinfo pages using 
foo.com:312, I get links such as:

http://foo.com:312:312/mailman/create
http://foo.com:312:312/mailman/listinfo
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:312
Likewise, if I go using 192.168.1.103:312, I get:

http://192.168.1.103:312:312/mailman/create
http://192.168.1.103:312:312/mailman/listinfo
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:312
Links to my lists point correctly, and are obviously using the proper 
base URL.  Likewise, in any list administration/archive/etc.. pages, 
all the links are correctly formed, _except_ for those that point to 
something global, such as Overview of all mail.foo.com mailing lists.

Is there some way I can make mailman _not_ listen to the Hosts: line 
from Apache (which is what it appears to be doing), and instead use the 
base URLs I have specified?

Thanks for your help, and apologies to those who I confused by my 
earlier post.



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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman not sending

2003-12-29 Thread Jamie Penman-Smithson
Hey Michael,

On Mon, 2003-12-29 at 01:07, Michael Sullivan wrote:
 I got mailman to run earlier this evening and I can get to the listinfo
 page on the internet.  I subscribed myself to the list, but I haven't
 gotten any confirmation email or anything from the list.  I've read over
 the mailman FAQ 3.14, but didn't find anything helpful.  I did all the
 tests, but it didn't tell me what to do with the results.  Please
 help!!!

Have you tried running 'mailmanctl start', and check that you have
something like the following processes running:

list  5336  0.0  0.4  7852  236 ?SDec26   0:00
/usr/bin/python ./mailmanctl start
list  5337  0.0  1.6  8416  984 ?SDec26   1:25
/usr/bin/python /var/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=ArchRunner:0:1 -s
list  5338  0.0  1.5  7668  892 ?SDec26   1:13
/usr/bin/python /var/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=BounceRunner:0:1
-s
list  5339  0.0  1.4  7916  832 ?SDec26   0:41
/usr/bin/python /var/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=CommandRunner:0:1
-s
list  5340  0.0  1.6  7956  940 ?SDec26   1:19
/usr/bin/python /var/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=IncomingRunner:0:1
-s
list  5341  0.0  1.3  7708  812 ?SDec26   1:09
/usr/bin/python /var/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=NewsRunner:0:1 -s
list  5342  0.0  1.8  8052 1060 ?SDec26   1:09
/usr/bin/python /var/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=OutgoingRunner:0:1
-s
list  5343  0.0  1.4  7944  840 ?SDec26   0:50
/usr/bin/python /var/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=VirginRunner:0:1
-s
list  5344  0.0  0.7  7684  412 ?SDec26   0:38
/usr/bin/python /var/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=RetryRunner:0:1 -s

I was having the same problem with mailman's mail not being delivered,
and the above solved it. I've been told that it's included in the FAQ
(*makes a new years resolution to read documentation more closely in
future*).

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[Mailman-Users] Hired help

2003-12-29 Thread Adam Boettiger

I know many (most) on this list have full time jobs that make it
difficult to take on project work, but are there folks on this
list who are willing to do installs, upgrades, customizations
etc. of Mailman on a fee basis?  If so, can you contact me
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Thanks

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[Mailman-Users] allowing non members to post to a list

2003-12-29 Thread Michael 'keyser' Vettas AOCAB Director
Hi peoples sorry if this is the wrong list i couldnt get the 'listowners' mailing list 
rego page to work :(

Anyway my question. I have setup various mailing lists all private for various 
heirarchy levels in my organisation, now my question is this i want one of my lists 
specifically the Directors list to be a non member list BUT want the ability for non 
members to send emails to it so all board members receive the email and can reply to 
it via squirelmail using the directors@ email address instead of creating hundreds of 
different pop accounts.

So basically

[EMAIL PROTECTED] sends an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] which gets sent to [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] , [EMAIL PROTECTED] , [EMAIL PROTECTED] etc etc without having it bounce to 
moderator and need approval before its accepted.

So is there a way non members can post to a list but not join a list, reason being 
directors need the list to send info o each other so haivng people able to join the 
list isnt what i would want, i also want to setup other generic bounces through cpanel 
so say [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] or whatever can be emailed and it gets 
sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] without it bouncing.

Thanks in advance im sure its possible and im just missing something.

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[Mailman-Users] better archive support?

2003-12-29 Thread Joris
Hi,

First of all, I'm not subscribed to this list. Please cc me if you feel 
your message should reach me.

After hunting performance troubles for quite a while, I finally found 
the source: mailman's archival of messages in the mbox format.

I have a list getting ~50 mails/day with an attachement, average size 
300kb. No biggy thus. But after 3 months this amounts to an archive over 
a 1GB.

This results in a qrunner process hogging all system resources for 
minutes at the time.

For now I've disabled archival of the list, but I wonder if there's some 
 better option to archive the mails. Eg, rotated mboxes, or Maildirs?

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[Mailman-Users] My subscribers aren't receiving anything!

2003-12-29 Thread Tom
Hello, I could really use some help here...

Other than a handful (and apparently the most recent subscribers) no one is getting my 
ezine.  Could you verify that the list I uploaded is intact and functioning properly?  
The list is:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

thanks for the help.

Going deep...
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Re: [Mailman-Users] new trouble with existing lists

2003-12-29 Thread backdoc
Thank you very much for the help.  The problem was that I didn't have a 
mailman mailing list and I needed to start the mailmanctl daemon.

I wasn't aware of these changes to Mailman.

I have a new question, though.  Where should I put the 
/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/bin/mailmanctl start command in FreeBSD so 
that it starts on boot?

TIA,
Darren
Jon Carnes wrote:
Read FAQ 3.14

It looks like either your cron daemon is not running (for Mailman
versions 2.0.x and below) - or your mailmanctl daemon is not runing (for
Mailman versions 2.1.x and above).
Jon Carnes

On Sun, 2003-12-28 at 10:29, backdoc wrote:

	Problem description:

I can no longer subscribe to or send mail to my lists.

	Here's some detail.

From the standpoint of being able to use the mailing lists (subscribe, 
post messages, etc), the lists had been working for several weeks. 
Then, spontaneously, all of the normal list server tasks quit working 
except for the web interface.  Attempting to subscribe to a mailing list 
results in a page that says a confirmation has been sent   But, I 
never receive that confirmation mail.

I have looked at all of the logs in /mailman/logs to see if I could see 
any references to my attempts to subscribe to the list.  But, I do not. 
   /var/log/messages does not show any references to Mailman either.

My mail server is Postfix.  It seems to operate normally in every way.

	Some possible clues:

I don't really have any strong suspicions that point to a particular 
culprit.  I don't generally muck around with my server except to keep 
the installed software up to date via portupgrade.  I don't really 
remember if the lists not working coorelates to running portupgrade. 
But, I don't think so.

Due to the fact that I own 2 domains and the domain name for the box is 
not the same domain name of the list I have created the lists for, there 
was a minor issue regarding the wrong URL showing up on the web 
interface portion of Mailman.  It was showing the box domain name as 
opposed to the list domain name.  The incorrect URL did not appear to 
have an adverse affect.  But, it was potentially confusing for users. 
So, I made a few attempts to correct it by altering the mm_cfg.py file. 
 In spite of some good suggestions here on the mailman-users list, I 
never resolved that problem.  Again, I can't associate Mailman breaking 
with attempts to fix the URL problem.

	What additional info can I give you to help you help me?

That's about all that I can think of to shed light on the problem.  Not 
seeing anything in the log files, I don't really know how to backtrace 
the problem?  Even though I don't feel like I broke it by editing the 
mm_cfg.py file or running portupgrade, I'm sure that I have somehow 
broken it.

Any suggestions would be very much appreciated.

TIA,
Darren
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Re: [Mailman-Users] new trouble with existing lists

2003-12-29 Thread backdoc
Thanks again.

/usr/local/etc/rc.d/ was the correct place.  There was already a mailman 
script there.  I guess the problem was that I just didn't have a mailman 
mailing list.

Thanks for being so much help.

Darren



Jon Carnes wrote:
You'll probably get a better response on a FreeBSD mailing list... but
(from memory), the proper location for FreeBSD startup script is
/usr/local/etc/rc.d/
If that doesn't work you might try: man rc.conf

Good Luck - Jon Carnes

On Sun, 2003-12-28 at 20:15, backdoc wrote:

Thank you very much for the help.  The problem was that I didn't have a 
mailman mailing list and I needed to start the mailmanctl daemon.

I wasn't aware of these changes to Mailman.

I have a new question, though.  Where should I put the 
/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/bin/mailmanctl start command in FreeBSD so 
that it starts on boot?

TIA,
Darren
Jon Carnes wrote:

Read FAQ 3.14

It looks like either your cron daemon is not running (for Mailman
versions 2.0.x and below) - or your mailmanctl daemon is not runing (for
Mailman versions 2.1.x and above).
Jon Carnes

On Sun, 2003-12-28 at 10:29, backdoc wrote:


	Problem description:

I can no longer subscribe to or send mail to my lists.

	Here's some detail.

From the standpoint of being able to use the mailing lists (subscribe, 
post messages, etc), the lists had been working for several weeks. 
Then, spontaneously, all of the normal list server tasks quit working 
except for the web interface.  Attempting to subscribe to a mailing list 
results in a page that says a confirmation has been sent   But, I 
never receive that confirmation mail.

I have looked at all of the logs in /mailman/logs to see if I could see 
any references to my attempts to subscribe to the list.  But, I do not. 
  /var/log/messages does not show any references to Mailman either.

My mail server is Postfix.  It seems to operate normally in every way.

	Some possible clues:

I don't really have any strong suspicions that point to a particular 
culprit.  I don't generally muck around with my server except to keep 
the installed software up to date via portupgrade.  I don't really 
remember if the lists not working coorelates to running portupgrade. 
But, I don't think so.

Due to the fact that I own 2 domains and the domain name for the box is 
not the same domain name of the list I have created the lists for, there 
was a minor issue regarding the wrong URL showing up on the web 
interface portion of Mailman.  It was showing the box domain name as 
opposed to the list domain name.  The incorrect URL did not appear to 
have an adverse affect.  But, it was potentially confusing for users. 
So, I made a few attempts to correct it by altering the mm_cfg.py file. 
In spite of some good suggestions here on the mailman-users list, I 
never resolved that problem.  Again, I can't associate Mailman breaking 
with attempts to fix the URL problem.

	What additional info can I give you to help you help me?

That's about all that I can think of to shed light on the problem.  Not 
seeing anything in the log files, I don't really know how to backtrace 
the problem?  Even though I don't feel like I broke it by editing the 
mm_cfg.py file or running portupgrade, I'm sure that I have somehow 
broken it.

Any suggestions would be very much appreciated.

TIA,
Darren
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[Mailman-Users] Hello

2003-12-29 Thread Euler Ricardo Rodrigues Ribeiro
I have one problem

When I go start mailmanctl show de message:
Site list is missing: mailman
What I make?

Please help me


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Hello

2003-12-29 Thread Erick Mechler
:: When I go start mailmanctl show de message:
:: Site list is missing: mailman
:: What I make?

Read up on the INSTALL file that comes with the distribution.  It explains 
what the site list is and how to generate one.

Cheers - Erick

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[Mailman-Users] How to add a new Mailman CGI program?

2003-12-29 Thread Christoph Seiler
Hi

I would like to add a new CGI program for Mailman, because the existing 
scripts do not fit my needs. Unfortunately I'm not too familiar with 
Mailman and this seems to be a bit complicated. So I would appreciate 
any help.

Mailman is installed under /usr/lib/mailman/. Am I correct, if I place 
my new CGI program in /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/? I did so and set the 
owner to root and the group to list (like the existing programs).

My problem is, that this script runs, but it has no access to 
/var/lib/mailman/lists/mylist/config.db (or any other file in the 
list-directory). What permissions must be set?

I noticed that the existing CGI scripts are binary files, whereas my 
script is a python-plainscript (with the shebang and all). Is this part 
of the problem? How are these binary files compiled?

CS

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Re: [Mailman-Users] How to add a new Mailman CGI program?

2003-12-29 Thread Jerold Stratton
On Monday, December 29, 2003, at 12:38  PM, Christoph Seiler wrote:
I would like to add a new CGI program for Mailman, because the 
existing scripts do not fit my needs. Unfortunately I'm not too 
familiar with Mailman and this seems to be a bit complicated. So I 
would appreciate any help.

I recently needed to add a 'list all members' function for our list 
admins; I elected to modify the python scripts in the Mailman directory:

1. In Mailman/Gui/Membership.py:
I added:
('listall', _('Listnbsp;All')),
to the function GetConfigSubCategories(self, category)
This had the effect of adding a new option to the 'Membership 
Management' section of Mailman, called 'List All' with an internal code 
of 'listall'.

2. In Mailman/Cgi/admin.py line 488, I changed:
if subcat not in ('list', 'add', 'remove'):
to:
if subcat not in ('list', 'add', 'remove', 'listall'):
This had the effect of not defaulting to the wrong thing when the user 
requests 'listall'.

The rest of it may not help you, as the functionality I needed was 
already there, I just needed access to it. I changed line 814 from:
if len(all)  chunksz:
to:
if len(all)  chunksz  or subcat == 'listall':

Presumably I could have just as well have added an elseif to handle 
that (as I may well do to make it *just* a list of members and not a 
form).

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Re: [Mailman-Users] How to show all members from web?

2003-12-29 Thread wildone
I'll answer my own previous question first: I don't think
MailMan allows removing all members from the web, from what
I can understand in mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admin.py.

My next question: how do I show all members from the web?!?
It seems if there are more than a few members, MailMan
decides to show only 1, and forces me to click on
A, etc., to view the rest. Surely there must be an
easier way to get all members? I'm not looking for
an email interface. I manage dozens of lists, and
need to have a way of dumping out all members of each
list in batch mode. I don't mind wading through HTML
output from the web.

Wild Pete

 How can I remove all members of a MailMan mailing list?
 I know about the remove_members and sync_members scripts,
 but I don't have admin permissions, I can only access
 MailMan via CPanel provided by my ISP. The interface is:
 http://mydomain/mailman/admin/mylist_mydomain/members/remove
 
 Looks like I can give a list of addresses,
 which are passed through the unsubscribees variable.
 Is there some way I can remove all members, without having
 to give a long list?
 
 Wild Pete




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Re: [Mailman-Users] How to show all members from web?

2003-12-29 Thread Todd
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 My next question: how do I show all members from the web?!?  It
 seems if there are more than a few members, MailMan decides to show
 only 1, and forces me to click on A, etc., to view the rest.
 Surely there must be an easier way to get all members? I'm not
 looking for an email interface. I manage dozens of lists, and need
 to have a way of dumping out all members of each list in batch mode.
 I don't mind wading through HTML output from the web.

You can view the subscriber list via the listinfo page for the list.
This is the roster CGI, which IMO, ought to be linked to on the admin
pages.  It will give you a list of regular and digest members, in HTML
format for you to wade through.

If I were trying to automate this, I think I'd prefer the email
interface though, it seems easier to process the addresses in that
output.

None of this beats the output of the list_members command of course.
It'd be great if there was a way to get that output via the web or
email without the assistance of the site admin for those folks stuck
running Mailman on shared hosts.  I don't think there is any way to
that at the moment though.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] How to show all members from web?

2003-12-29 Thread Ed Wilts
On Mon, Dec 29, 2003 at 08:45:27PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'll answer my own previous question first: I don't think
 MailMan allows removing all members from the web, from what
 I can understand in mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admin.py.

This would be a *very* nice feature to see.  sync_members would be
really helpful too!  My list admins need to regularly flush the announce 
lists and repopulate them from an internal database, and right now I'm
flushing them manually.  Giving the list admins an easy way to do this
would save me getting involved.

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[Mailman-Users] Error: Empty module name

2003-12-29 Thread Fernando Barajas
Hi!  I run several lists using Mailman.  With only ONE of my lists I'm 
getting the following error (in log/error) when someone wants to post:

Dec 29 22:01:33 2003 (8451) Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /home/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 105, in _oneloop
self._onefile(msg, msgdata)
  File /home/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 155, in _onefile
keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata)
  File /home/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py, line 130, in _dispose
more = self._dopipeline(mlist, msg, msgdata, pipeline)
  File /home/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py, line 153, in 
_dopipeline
sys.modules[modname].process(mlist, msg, msgdata)
  File /home/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py, line 89, in process
send_digests(mlist, mboxfp)
  File /home/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py, line 130, in send_digests
send_i18n_digests(mlist, mboxfp)
  File /home/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py, line 303, in 
send_i18n_dige
sts
msg = scrubber(mlist, msg)
  File /home/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/Scrubber.py, line 308, in process
t = t.encode(charset, 'replace')
  File 
/var/tmp/python2-2.2.3-root/usr/lib/python2.2/encodings/__init__.py, li
ne 51, in search_function
ValueError: Empty module name

Dec 29 22:01:33 2003 (8451) SHUNTING: 
1072756893.371747+134baf775b7f10339f7b20ec
9c9a412e798bfe11

All of my other lists are working OK.  This list (fc_general) was working 
OK, but it stopped working about 3 days ago.

What can the problem be?

Thanks!

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Error: Empty module name

2003-12-29 Thread Fernando Barajas
At 21:57 29-12-2003, Fernando Barajas wrote:
Hi!  I run several lists using Mailman.  With only ONE of my lists I'm 
getting the following error (in log/error) when someone wants to post:
Forgot to mention:

$ ./version
Using Mailman version: 2.1.2
Thanks again!


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[Mailman-Users] ezmlm to mailman

2003-12-29 Thread Brendan Pratt
Just in the process of moving some lists across to mailman from ezmlm , and 
can't seem to find an easy way of doing it.

I think I've found something that'll bring them in from a .mbox file, but 
these are currently in a Maildir/ format.

Anyone got an easy way to convert them across ?

Thanks !!

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