[Mailman-Users] MM 2.1.3 digests keep failing to go out

2004-01-11 Thread Mark
I have three active Mailman 2.1.3 mailing lists
at my email-hosting provider, http://www.ricochehost.com
The Mailman is on their servers as part of
cPanel, a webhosting control panel interface
( http://www.cpanel.net ).

Every few weeks, the digests simply stop going
out, and the admin there fixes this by reinstalling
Mailman each time.  But I won't have him keep
doing that.  I have been sending the digests
manually as a stopgap, but doing so is tedious.

Does any of you have any idea what might be
causing Mailman to stop sending digests, and
how it might fixed?

Thanks in advance.

Mark in Berkeley















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Re: [Mailman-Users] Modifying Listinfo page for one list

2004-01-11 Thread Ed Greenberg
Many thanks to Dan and Todd. I knew this was hiding somewhere, but couldn't 
figure out where.

/edg

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One of my listowners raises a valid question. She has a list that is used
for publishing a newsletter. No posting is allowed by anybody but the
owner.
When one visits the listinfo page, one sees the usual  to post a message
to all members send an email to  info.
I'd like to create a separate templates/en/listinfo.html for her list.

Is there a good way to do this, other than redefining one of the
languages (or adding a new language)?
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Re: [Mailman-Users] default_member_moderation flag

2004-01-11 Thread Thomas Hochstein
steve wrote:

 The flags' documentation is linked from the admin pages.
 
 Thanks, but, uh, I don't have a site up and running right now.
 I'm looking for features to see if this will be the right choice
 to install or use when I get a new provider.

Ah, I see.

 I appreciate you pasting the doc into your email! I still
 wonder if there is anywhere I can get this level of docs
 short of installing the software?

Sorry, I didn't have the time to google 'til now. Perhaps
http://www.washington.edu/computing/mailman/owners/configuration.html
will help you: it's a list of options and ther meaning.

http://www.washington.edu/computing/mailman/ looks like a quite good
documentation for mailman beginners, even if it is specific for the
University of Washington.

 If not, perhaps the wizards listening will consider putting
 it on the main webpage as an encouragement for new admins to
 adopt Mailman.

Yep, the documentation is a bit ... sparse, as usual for many
open-source projects I encountered. But it's a lot better than the
documentation available for Listar/Ecartis. ;)

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[Mailman-Users] 4 things: conjugation with usenet, archivisation by arriving date, statistics, and link to the archives in archivised posts.

2004-01-11 Thread Andrzej Kasperowicz
1.
Admin of my server moved some time ago one of my lists to Mailman, but 
the other one he did not, because the other one is conjugated with a 
usenet news group, and he said that he can't do that under mailman, 
because in order to conjungate it in direction usenet - list the list 
would have to be open for everyone, or moderator would have to confirm 
every post send from persons not subscribed to the list. 
Is that true?
If yes, then... ok I understand the initial legitimate idea that if 
usenet group is open to everyone then the list should be too, or both 
should be moderated.
The problem is however, that to the mailing list address are coming 
hundreds of spams *per day* (even though spamassassin is installed), so 
it cannot be open. I could not also find silly enough moderator to 
manually delete hundreds of spams daily.
The only solution is to allow private list to be conjugated with an open 
usenet group.
I request to allow it in mailman *as soon as possible*.

2.
I think that there should be an option allowing to archive mails 
according to date of reception of the posts by mailman, and not date set 
by user who sends it. That would prevent dates from the future in the 
archive: 2006, 2011, 2013, 2024 which you can see in this list (mailman-
users) archive:
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/

3.
I also would wish to see in mailman statistics of posts sent by users, 
i.e. how many post were sent from each e-mail address. There is such a 
feature in ver. 6.0d of ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas. It would 
be nice to have it in Mailman, too.

4. 
I think that there should be present a link to the main archive web page 
in every archivised message seen in archive, because at the moment there 
is only link to the subscribtion page (information page), and possibility 
to sort messages differently, but if I read it sorted by thread for 
example, I cannot go back to the begining of the thread or to the main 
archive web page by clicking on a link - there is no such a link, 
unfortunatelly.

Regards
Andy


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[Mailman-Users] How?

2004-01-11 Thread WebMaster
Dear MailMan,

I have made a mailing list in the Cpanel and i don't really know how to send e-mails 
to ppl who i added on the list at the same time using the list?

Can you please help me...?

Best Regards,

Amr Elsherif, WebMaster 

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Re: [Mailman-Users] 4 things: conjugation with usenet, archivisation by arriving date, statistics, and link to the archives in archivised posts.

2004-01-11 Thread Brad Knowles
At 1:35 AM +0100 2004/01/11, Andrzej Kasperowicz wrote:

 Admin of my server moved some time ago one of my lists to Mailman, but
 the other one he did not, because the other one is conjugated with a
 usenet news group, and he said that he can't do that under mailman,
 because in order to conjungate it in direction usenet - list the list
 would have to be open for everyone, or moderator would have to confirm
 every post send from persons not subscribed to the list.
 Is that true?
	No.  The latest version of the mailman will only allow mailing 
list members to post through to the newsgroup.  Newsgroup postings 
will be allowed through without restriction.  Have your admin install 
version 2.1.4.

 I think that there should be an option allowing to archive mails
 according to date of reception of the posts by mailman, and not date set
 by user who sends it. That would prevent dates from the future in the
 archive: 2006, 2011, 2013, 2024 which you can see in this list (mailman-
 users) archive:
 http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/
	The messages are archived in the order in which they are 
received.  The dates shown are those as present in the original 
message.  If the date on the sender's machine is out-of-whack, then 
that's what is displayed.  This could not be reasonably corrected by 
the receiving system, because there would be no way to know what the 
correct date would be -- how long was the message delayed?  What time 
zone was it sent from?  There would be too many questions to answer, 
for which there are no answers.

 I also would wish to see in mailman statistics of posts sent by users,
 i.e. how many post were sent from each e-mail address. There is such a
 feature in ver. 6.0d of ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas. It would
 be nice to have it in Mailman, too.
	That sounds like it would be a nice addition.

 I think that there should be present a link to the main archive web page
 in every archivised message seen in archive, because at the moment there
 is only link to the subscribtion page (information page), and possibility
 to sort messages differently, but if I read it sorted by thread for
 example, I cannot go back to the begining of the thread or to the main
 archive web page by clicking on a link - there is no such a link,
 unfortunatelly.
	Like many open source projects, mailman is written by volunteers. 
Unfortunately, most of these people have limited time available, and 
have to find other ways to pay the bills.  Sometimes even simple 
changes are more than the development team can do, because they're 
way behind and overwhelmed with other work.  If you can provide a 
patch to implement this functionality, I'm sure they'd more than 
welcome your submission.  If you can provide funding to help pay for 
someone else to develop such a feature, I'm sure they'd welcome that.

	If you are unable to help implement this functionality in some 
way, the best that can be hoped for is that this feature request will 
be put in the queue, and someday someone might be able to do it.

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[Mailman-Users] Personalization

2004-01-11 Thread Paulo Dinis
Hi to all,
I´m running a list with 170 members.
I wishes to personalize the email footer with personal information.
I´ve tried to located this info in FAQ arquives, have found some reference
to previous versions,
Any help ?

Non-technical user...

Thank´s !
Paulo Dinis
Portugal



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Subject:[Mailman-Users] How?

Dear MailMan,

I have made a mailing list in the Cpanel and i don't really know how to send
e-mails to ppl who i added on the list at the same time using the list?

Can you please help me...?

Best Regards,

Amr Elsherif, WebMaster

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[Mailman-Users] Mailman stopped working, no changes on machine, with error log output

2004-01-11 Thread Abel Wisman
All of a sudden and with no reference to any error in any other log then
the mailman specific logs, mailman (running several lists) stopped
working.
Went through the entire q 3.14 and all checks out fine, yet this is
found in mailman/error.log:

Jan 12 00:14:01 2004 (1291) Delivery exception: (-2, 'Name or service
not known')
Jan 12 00:14:01 2004 (1291) Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /var/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/HandlerAPI.py, line 82, in
do_pipeline
func(mlist, msg, msgdata)
  File /var/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py, line 121, in process
inject_digest(mlist, digestfile, topicsfile)
  File /var/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py, line 170, in
inject_digest
msg = digest.asMIME()
  File /var/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py, line 242, in asMIME
return self.Present(mime=1)
  File /var/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py, line 254, in Present
envboundary = mimetools.choose_boundary()
  File
/usr/src/build/143041-i386/install/usr/lib/python2.2/mimetools.py,
line 116, in choose_boundary
hostid = socket.gethostbyname(socket.gethostname())
gaierror: (-2, 'Name or service not known')


Any help would be appreciated

Kind regards

A



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[Mailman-Users] Mailman stopped working, no changes on machine, with error log output

2004-01-11 Thread Abel Wisman
Oops forgot important data :)


All of a sudden and with no reference to any error in any other log then
the mailman specific logs, mailman (running several lists) stopped
working. Went through the entire q 3.14 and all checks out fine, yet
this is found in mailman/error.log:

Jan 12 00:14:01 2004 (1291) Delivery exception: (-2, 'Name or service
not known') Jan 12 00:14:01 2004 (1291) Traceback (most recent call
last):
  File /var/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/HandlerAPI.py, line 82, in
do_pipeline
func(mlist, msg, msgdata)
  File /var/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py, line 121, in process
inject_digest(mlist, digestfile, topicsfile)
  File /var/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py, line 170, in
inject_digest
msg = digest.asMIME()
  File /var/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py, line 242, in asMIME
return self.Present(mime=1)
  File /var/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py, line 254, in Present
envboundary = mimetools.choose_boundary()
  File
/usr/src/build/143041-i386/install/usr/lib/python2.2/mimetools.py,
line 116, in choose_boundary
hostid = socket.gethostbyname(socket.gethostname())
gaierror: (-2, 'Name or service not known')

Running: Linux version 2.4.20-20.8 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
(gcc version 3.2 20020903 (Red Hat Linux 8.0 3.2-7)) #1 Mon Aug 18
14:39:22 EDT 2003
Mailman version 2.0.13


Any help would be appreciated

Kind regards

A



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[Mailman-Users] email subscribing users

2004-01-11 Thread Dat Bui
Hi,
I am able to subscribe new users to my list by emailing to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

with subscribe nodigest [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the subject field.

what I want is to put a name, ie. Joe Blow, to that address. How do i do
this?

thanks in anticipation.
Dat



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[Mailman-Users] variable substitution

2004-01-11 Thread Alan Batie
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One of my list owners is using identical message footers in two different
lists, but one is getting expanded and the other isn't.  I'm running
mailman 2.1.3, and thought maybe the personalize setting needed set, but
config_list -o doesn't put in a personalize setting, and -i won't accept
it.  I think personalize might be something beyond basic variable expansion
anyhow.  Any clue to what I'm missing?  Thanks!

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[Mailman-Users] Re: Personalization

2004-01-11 Thread Philip Busey
Paulo, here is a sample footer for the non-digest options (including the
underline).  (I have no idea if these characters will be interpreted
when sent like this the body of a message.)

This is for the South Florida Democrats mailing list at:
http://oursouthflorida.com

Phil

___

South Florida Democrats mailing list - 
%(web_page_url)slistinfo%(cgiext)s/%(_internal_name)s

Courtesy of the Davie-Cooper City Democratic Club
http://daviedemocrats.org or http://coopercitydemocrats.org

Brief, original announcements and comments for the good of the
Democratic Party and the People of South Florida will be lightly
edited and posted periodically, by writing to:
%(real_name)[EMAIL PROTECTED](host_name)s

Do not use this list to publish boring drivel that everyone has already
seen; use a URL link whenever possible.  Do not post admin requests
to the list.  They will be ignored.  Help/Unsubscribe/Update your
Subscription:
%(user_optionsurl)s

This email was sent to %(user_address)s

Paulo Dinis wrote:
 
 Hi to all,
 I´m running a list with 170 members.
 I wishes to personalize the email footer with personal information.
 I´ve tried to located this info in FAQ arquives, have found some reference
 to previous versions,
 Any help ?
 
 Non-technical user...
 
 Thank´s !
 Paulo Dinis
 Portugal
 
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 From:   WebMaster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent:   domingo, 11 de Janeiro de 2004 13:51
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:[Mailman-Users] How?
 
 Dear MailMan,
 
 I have made a mailing list in the Cpanel and i don't really know how to send
 e-mails to ppl who i added on the list at the same time using the list?
 
 Can you please help me...?
 
 Best Regards,
 
 Amr Elsherif, WebMaster
 
 www.arabmp3s.com

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