[Mailman-Users] Member Options Page
Hi I don't know if anyone can help, but when I edit the Member Options HTML page, everything displays fine. For 10 minutes that is. After that, if I go check, it has reverted back to the original page. When I go to the edit page to change it again, it is still how I left it. Then if I click the Submit your changes button, and check the page, it is how I changed it, albeit for only 10 minutes. Any help would be greatly appreciated. PLEEASE!!! Tx Hannes -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Can I set up a user-friendly write-to address?
29-Jan-04 at 23:42, Lee ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote : I was advised by my hosting support to set up a 'dummy' simpler-addressed email account for list subscribers to write-to, which i would then auto-forward to the actual email address of the list. yes, if my list is open to subscribers only, the 'dummy' address would need to be a subscriber of the actual list, but I feel I need to look deeper into this. No. The 'dummy' address is merely a pointer to the real list address. This does not require the 'dummy' address to be a subscriber, because the emails will be passed on (transparently) to the list, and with the original sender still in place of course. The 'dummy' address will be an alias for the real address, nothing more. The important part will be getting messages to go out with the Reply address set correctly. For eg, mailman would send out mail from its 'real' address which I would have to configure in the settings to appear as the 'dummy address' - presumably I would do this by adding the dummy as the explicit reply-to address? You can do that, but some email clients might not obey the Reply-To address correctly, you will be watertight only if you can set the main From address correctly... I can also see issues regarding the dummy email's subscriber 'metoo' and 'no mail' options - I'm assuming they need to be set to not receive any list mails at all, to avoid a mail loop and duplicates? Nope... the 'dummy' address (alias) does not need to be a subscriber. Regards, -- Simon White. Internet Consultant, Linux/Windows Server Administration. email, dns and web servers; php javascript perl asp; MySQL MSSQL Access Bridging the gap between management, HR and the tech team. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Can I set up a user-friendly write-to address?
Simon, thanks for that - I got the feeling my hosting support hadn't really thought it through! lee --- Simon White [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 29-Jan-04 at 23:42, Lee ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote : I was advised by my hosting support to set up a 'dummy' simpler-addressed email account for list subscribers to write-to, which i would then auto-forward to the actual email address of the list. yes, if my list is open to subscribers only, the 'dummy' address would need to be a subscriber of the actual list, but I feel I need to look deeper into this. No. The 'dummy' address is merely a pointer to the real list address. This does not require the 'dummy' address to be a subscriber, because the emails will be passed on (transparently) to the list, and with the original sender still in place of course. The 'dummy' address will be an alias for the real address, nothing more. The important part will be getting messages to go out with the Reply address set correctly. For eg, mailman would send out mail from its 'real' address which I would have to configure in the settings to appear as the 'dummy address' - presumably I would do this by adding the dummy as the explicit reply-to address? You can do that, but some email clients might not obey the Reply-To address correctly, you will be watertight only if you can set the main From address correctly... I can also see issues regarding the dummy email's subscriber 'metoo' and 'no mail' options - I'm assuming they need to be set to not receive any list mails at all, to avoid a mail loop and duplicates? Nope... the 'dummy' address (alias) does not need to be a subscriber. Regards, -- Simon White. Internet Consultant, Linux/Windows Server Administration. email, dns and web servers; php javascript perl asp; MySQL MSSQL Access Bridging the gap between management, HR and the tech team. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/lee_19712003%40yahoo.com ___ BT Yahoo! Broadband - Free modem offer, sign up online today and save £80 http://btyahoo.yahoo.co.uk -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Can I set up a user-friendly write-to address?
30-Jan-04 at 10:34, Lee ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote : thanks for that - I got the feeling my hosting support hadn't really thought it through! They certainly didn't explain it to you properly did they? :-) Regards, -- The mediocre teacher tells. The good teacher explains. The superior teacher demonstrates. The great teacher inspires. William A. Ward -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] re: Member Options Page
hello, I was just thinking about your message - make sure you have (all) cookies enabled in your browser, for your changes to work. lee --- Hi I don't know if anyone can help, but when I edit the Member Options HTML page, everything displays fine. For 10 minutes that is. After that, if I go check, it has reverted back to the original page. When I go to the edit page to change it again, it is still how I left it. Then if I click the Submit your changes button, and check the page, it is how I changed it, albeit for only 10 minutes. Any help would be greatly appreciated. PLEEASE!!! Tx Hannes ___ BT Yahoo! Broadband - Free modem offer, sign up online today and save £80 http://btyahoo.yahoo.co.uk -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] locks
I am very new to all of this including using Mailman, Linux, Sendmail, etc... I have Mialman 2.0.13-1 on Red Hat Linux using Sendmail as the MTA. It has worked a few times, but right now when I send my announcement it fails. Why I don't know but here are some things I can see: There are files in the /var/mailman/locks folder called qrunner.lock and qrunner.lock.www.domain.name. When I delete them and refresh the list I can briefly see listname.lock and listname.lock.www.domain.name and the above, but the listname items disappear after a few minutes. Here is the TOP output. I don't know what else to look for. Nothing is going out anywhere. 20010 root 16 0 696 696 600 S 0.0 0.1 0:00 CROND 20012 mailman 15 0 35840 35M 1612 S 0.0 6.9 0:07 /usr/bin/python -S /var/mailman/cron/qrunner 20114 root 16 0 696 696 600 S 0.0 0.1 0:00 CROND 20115 mailman 15 0 35840 35M 1612 S 0.0 6.9 0:06 /usr/bin/python -S /var/mailman/cron/qrunner 20130 root 16 0 696 696 600 S 0.0 0.1 0:00 CROND 20131 mailman 15 0 35840 35M 1612 S 0.0 6.9 0:06 /usr/bin/python -S /var/mailman/cron/qrunner 20224 root 16 0 2300 2296 1636 S 0.0 0.4 0:00 sendmail: server [xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx] child wait 20225 root 15 0 3060 3056 1664 S 0.0 0.5 0:00 sendmail: i0UDC4e20225 [xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx]: rcpt TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 20279 root 16 0 2300 2296 1636 S 0.0 0.4 0:00 sendmail: server [xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx] child wait 20297 root 16 0 2300 2296 1636 S 0.0 0.4 0:00 sendmail: server [xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx] child wait 20298 root 15 0 2528 2524 1664 S 0.0 0.4 0:00 sendmail: i0UDGfe20298 [xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx]: rcpt TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 20299 root 16 0 2300 2296 1636 S 0.0 0.4 0:00 sendmail: server [xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx] child wait 20300 root 15 0 2564 2560 1664 S 0.0 0.4 0:00 sendmail: i0UDGoe20300 [xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx]: rcpt TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED] xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx is our IP address. I mention this because we are using something else I am unfamiliar with called IPTables to assign the outgoing mail to one of our other IP addresses like so: iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -p tcp --dport 25 -j SNAT --to-source xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx I don't even know enough to know if xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx in TOP should be our IP or the receiving server IP. I do appreciate any hep at all. Brian -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Member Options Page
On Fri, 2004-01-30 at 02:47, Hannes Calitz wrote: Hi I don't know if anyone can help, but when I edit the Member Options HTML page, everything displays fine. For 10 minutes that is. After that, if I go check, it has reverted back to the original page. When I go to the edit page to change it again, it is still how I left it. Then if I click the Submit your changes button, and check the page, it is how I changed it, albeit for only 10 minutes. Any help would be greatly appreciated. PLEEASE!!! Tx Hannes On a Red Hat box: service mailman restart From a scratch build: ~mailman/bin/mailmanctl restart -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] administrivia not working
Hi, I have checked the appropriate box under General Options for the administrivia filter. Is there a trigger word list somewhere to edit? Am I out of sync with another group of settings. perhaps? Thank you in advance. Jane version 2.1.2 __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Error: Unknown virtual host when creating a new list
Hello, I can create a new list using the newlist command (mailman v 2.1.4), but when I go to the web interface with http://mydomain.com/mailman/create, type in all the info, the I have the result as Error: Unknown virtual host: mydomain.com. Could anyone shed some light on this? Thanks a lot! Andrew - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Subscription/UnSubscription withoug a password
Hi, I was wondering if it's ever possible in mailman not to use any password when the user subscribes or unsubscribes? If no, what's the reason for that? I've seen many newsletters subscription that didn't require a password. A confirmation email/click should be just enough to subscribe, same goes for unsubscribe. Thanks, Andrew - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] x.509 cert authentication for web interface?
Hi all. I'm wondering if anybody has devised a way to authenticate to the admin/moderator interfaces in Mailman using browser certificates. We try to use them to authenticate to web services wherever possible, and have a fairly widely deployed PKI at my site. It seems like this should be possible, but I really don't know python and am not very familiar with Mailman's code. We use Apache and mod_ssl, which means that we can make a bunch of environment variables associated with the certificates available to Mailman. In particular, we can find out the email address of the user. It seems like we should be able to look for that email address in the list of admin or moderator addresses and consider the user to be authenticated if it's there. The web server is already doing the necessary work to verify that the certificate is valid, so everything presented to Mailman should be trustworthy. Any help would be much appreciated. noah -- Noah Meyerhans System Administrator MIT Computer Science and Artificial Intelligence Laboratory signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] multiple (virtual) domains
Hello - I seem to be having trouble with my mailman install. We have a single mailman install on a server with multiple domains. When I go into the list admin (general) page for any list on the server, it shows scighera.badgerracing.com for host_name. I've changed this to zaurususergroup.com (for the list that I'd like to have for that site). But when I test subscribing to the site, I don't receive a confirmation email, nor do I see my address in the membership management page. Here's my setup: mailman 2.14 sendmail 8.12.10 slackware 9 I've been reading as much as I can on the FAQs and documentation that I can find. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated! Thanks! -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] postfix + mailman, bounce detection not working?
i have no idea whats going wrong: i have lots of entries in ..mailman/logs/smtp-failure like this: Jan 27 22:26:39 2004 (29932) delivery to [EMAIL PROTECTED] failed with code 450: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Recipient address rejected: Domain not found since weeks now every 15min (!) i am using postfix as MTA. any ideas what may go wrong? is this not a case for bounce processing? i checked, the bounce settings and anything seems to setted correctly. everything else is working perfectly! any hint would be very appreciated... greetings, robert -- / The game, anoraks.2.0.0.tgz, will be \ | available from sunsite until somebody | | responsible notices it and deletes it, | | and shortly from | | ftp.mee.tcd.ie/pub/Brian, though they | | don't know that yet. | || \ -- Brian O'Donnell, [EMAIL PROTECTED]/ \ ^__^ \ (oo)\___ (__)\ )\/\ ||w | || || -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Creating mailing lists
Hi, My name is Amanda Faith and I work for a church that is interested in setting up email lists for different groups in the church. We were wondering about your services and how exactly we'd set up the lists. Also, I would like to know if there is a limit to the number of lists we would be able to set up. Thanks for your help, Amanda Faith All Souls Church Reception Admin. Asst. (918) 743-2363 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] bug in mailman
hi, our mailing lists [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] are on your mailman, and they havebeen up and down for the last week. today we got this message when we accessed the admin page--hope you can help us. josey foo please reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Bug in Mailman version 2.1.3 We're sorry, we hit a bug! If you would like to help us identify the problem, please email a copy of this page to the webmaster for this site with a description of what happened. Thanks! Traceback: Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/scripts/driver, line 223, in ? run_main() File /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/scripts/driver, line 97, in run_main print_traceback(logger) File /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/scripts/driver, line 120, in print_traceback print logfp, '' File /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/Mailman/Logging/StampedLogger.py, line 73, in write Logger.write(self, %s %s % (prefix, msg)) MemoryError _ Python information: Variable Value sys.version 2.2.2 (#1, Feb 24 2003, 19:13:11) [GCC 3.2.2 20030222 (Red Hat Linux 3.2.2-4)] sys.executable /usr/bin/python2 sys.prefix /usr sys.exec_prefix /usr sys.path /usr sys.platform linux2 _ Environment variables: Variable Value HTTP_REFERERhttp://www.sanjuanpeace.org/ SERVER_SOFTWARE Apache/1.3.29 (Unix) mod_auth_passthrough/1.8 mod_log_bytes/1.2 mod_bwlimited/1.4 PHP/4.3.4 FrontPage/5.0.2.2634 mod_ssl/2.8.16 OpenSSL/0.9.7a PYTHONPATH /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman SCRIPT_FILENAME /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo SERVER_ADMIN[EMAIL PROTECTED] SCRIPT_NAME /mailman/listinfo REQUEST_METHOD GET HTTP_HOST sanjuanpeace.org PATH_INFO /messageboard_sanjuanpeace.org SERVER_PROTOCOL HTTP/1.1 QUERY_STRING REQUEST_URI /mailman/listinfo/messageboard_sanjuanpeace.org HTTP_ACCEPT */* HTTP_USER_AGENT Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1) HTTP_CONNECTION Keep-Alive SERVER_NAME www.sanjuanpeace.org REMOTE_ADDR 67.41.7.225 REMOTE_PORT 1540 HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGEen-us PATH_TRANSLATED /home/sanjuanp/public_html/messageboard_sanjuanpeace.org SERVER_PORT 80 GATEWAY_INTERFACE CGI/1.1 HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODINGgzip, deflate SERVER_ADDR 69.10.149.14 DOCUMENT_ROOT /home/sanjuanp/public_html -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Question About Mail Man Bounced emails
How does Mail Man mailing list manager handle bounces? -Nicholas -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] removing members who aren't on the list ???
Hi. I'm the list administrator for a listserv that goes out weekly to about 2000 email addresses. Each week I receive about 15-20 bounced emails. When I try to remove them from the list, the address listed is not subscribed. I assume that this means the listserv email is forwarded to the email address that isn't working. Is there anyway to find out what the original email address is so that I can remove these from the subscribers list? Thanks for your help. Hillary Edwards Program Assistant Center for Civic Ed. and Service Florida State University 850 644-3342 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Cannot get GUI to work
We are setting up Mailman 2.1.4 for testing and review on a Red Hat Linux Enterprise 3.0 system. Mailman installed OK and usr/local/mailman/bin/check_perms produced no errors. So unto Step 4. Final system set-up. However here is where we run into problems. We are trying to interface Mailman with Apache but cannot get the Mailman GUI to run. Per the instructions httpd.conf was edited to include: ScriptAlias /mailman/ /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/ Directory /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin AllowOverride None Options FollowSymLinks ExecCGI Order allow,deny Allow from all /Directory The ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ /var/www/cgi-bin/ and its Directory definition were commented out. The web server was started with apachectl start. Browsing into our machine we get only: Index of / with no files listed. Also DocumentRoot and Directory were experimented with: DocumentRoot /var/www/html was changed to DocumentRoot /usr/local/mailman and Directory /var/www/html was changed to Directory /usr/local/mailman Making this change resulted in the browser to display all the files in /usr/local/mailman. Clicking on the cgi-bin directory resulted in Forbidden Access. A listing of /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin shows the following files. admin admindb confirm create edithtml listinfo options private rmlist roster subscribe We thought there should be .cgi files or an index.html file in there. How do we point to the file that starts the GUI interface? Since we are just new to this environment the answer may right in front of us and we can't see it. Any help from this list would be much appreciated. Thank you, -Bill Mueller William C. Mueller [EMAIL PROTECTED] 608-262-9886 -- Systems Engineering Operations - Customer Application Services University of Wisconsin - Division of Information Technology 5752 Tokay Blvd, Suite 200, Madison, WI 53719 - United States -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Need help diagnosing bounce processing and logging problems
On Thu, Jan 29, 2004 at 10:26:31PM +0100, Thomas Hochstein wrote: Dave Fisher schrieb: From what I can see, Exim simply uses /etc/aliases lines to pipe all admin messages to /var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman on Debian, but I've no idea what Mailman does with them after that. At least on current versions of Mailman, mail is sent with an envelope of [EMAIL PROTECTED]; that means, bounces go back to that adress, and Exim then uses /etc/aliases lines to pipe all bounces to the mailman bounce-processing. It should be possible to change that line to send the mail (the bounce) to you *and* pipe it to mailman. Thanks Thomas, Just after I wrote my original request for help, I realised that I could that and have now done so. I would, however, still like to know what the automatic bounce processing actually does in some detail. I've already noticed a range of different errors. The most common seem to be temporary routing and name lookup problems, so I'd like to find out how I can ensure that exim/mailman tries to re-send the original for longer, i.e. until the temporary problem has gone away. Is there any documentation, or some obvious option that I've overlooked, about this? Dave -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Mailman Setting question
In Mailman 2.1.4, what option do I change to allow members and non-members to post to the list without moderator approval. I want every message sent directly to the list. Rachelle Wheatley __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Mailman Install - Virtuals
Hello, I've just installed mailman and I'm not sure where The web page for users of your mailing list (the link in the email received when creating a new list) is in relationship to the $prefix directory. Also, do I have to create any virtuals for admin web pages or archives or any others? I've read and reread the install doc several times and haven't seen anything indicating that I need to. I have made a few virtuals just to try to narrow it down and check them out from a web page. One to the $prefix/templates, $prefix/lists, and the $prefix/public directory (which has soft links pointing towards the lists in the private directory). In the lists that are in the private directory, each has a config.pck, config.pck.last, or request.db. I'm thinking maybe I'm not browsing the correct directory. Please shed some light. Thanks, Ryan -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Migrate lists from 2.0.5 to 2.1.4
Hi, I'm setting up a new system with newer OS and 2.1.4 version of mailman and need to migrate the old lists to the new server with archive data. I would really appreciate if someone could guide me through how to get this done. I have tried to move the /home/mailman/listls/~/* files and /home/mailman/archive/~/* to the new system and ran update but the old lists are not using the new features of 2.1.4. In other words and lists created on 2.1.4 have different view on the web page than the ones migrated from the old server. Thank you for your in advance. Anandha __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] x.509 cert authentication for web interface?
On Fri, 2004-01-30 at 14:03, Noah Meyerhans wrote: Hi all. I'm wondering if anybody has devised a way to authenticate to the admin/moderator interfaces in Mailman using browser certificates. We try to use them to authenticate to web services wherever possible, and have a fairly widely deployed PKI at my site. It seems like this should be possible, but I really don't know python and am not very familiar with Mailman's code. We use Apache and mod_ssl, which means that we can make a bunch of environment variables associated with the certificates available to Mailman. In particular, we can find out the email address of the user. It seems like we should be able to look for that email address in the list of admin or moderator addresses and consider the user to be authenticated if it's there. The web server is already doing the necessary work to verify that the certificate is valid, so everything presented to Mailman should be trustworthy. Any help would be much appreciated. noah Dude, Just move the script alias inside the ssl part of your httpd.conf. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] 2.1.4 info/html issue
Hi, Does anyone have any last ideas about my issue, described in the thread below? If not, i'll submit a bug. Thanks, Fred On Wed, 28 Jan 2004, Fred Stutzman wrote: Thanks for the advice - unfortunately, that doesn't seem to be the solution. I played around with one of my own lists, and was able to replicate the behavior. You can check that out at: http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/somewhat This list had no html in the info section until I added it this afternoon. Thanks! Fred On 28 Jan 2004, Jon Carnes wrote: On Wed, 2004-01-28 at 17:55, Fred Stutzman wrote: Hi, We recently upgraded to Mailman 2.1.4, and we're encountering an issue that I can't seem to track down. Our user had previously configured their info option to include html information. Until the upgrade, this has always displayed on the list front page as html. The html is now being displayed as text. You can see an example of this by visiting: http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/pbs For example : ! - font size = 5bemPacific Bulb Society Mailing List/em/b/font I've spent a few hours attempting to track this issue down, but I'm running out of options. I've messed with the DEFAULT_CONVERT_HTML_TO_PLAINTEXT options, and re-entered the info information with pure, compliant HTML. I didn't see anything in the NEWS file that would explain why this is happening. Any ideas? Thanks, Fred Login to the Web Admin for that list and then click on: Edit the public HTML pages Then click on: General list information page Looks like the upgrade might have thrown in a pre /pre block around the added text it found there. You should be able to edit it back into the HTML shape it was in. If not, post the source you get for the listinfo page and I'll be happy to take a look at it. Jon Carnes (local Trilugger) -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/fred%40metalab.unc.edu -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] x.509 cert authentication for web interface?
On Fri, Jan 30, 2004 at 03:25:24PM -0500, Jon Carnes wrote: Just move the script alias inside the ssl part of your httpd.conf. I've already got the script alias in the SSL section of Apache's config. That works fine, but it's most definitely not authenticating based on the x509 certificate presented by the browser. It it supposed to? I haven't seen any indication in the documentation that leads me to believe it is. Please point me to whatever docs I'm missing if I am missing something. Or tell me where in mailman's source code I can find that functionality. In case I was not clear in my intentions: If the browser presents an x509 certificate that is properly signed by my Certificate Authority, and the email address associated with the certificate is listed in the admin or moderator fields in Mailman, then the user should be considered authenticated. At no point should they be prompted for a password. noah -- Noah Meyerhans System Administrator MIT Computer Science and Artificial Intelligence Laboratory signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Can I set up a user-friendly write-to address?
thanks John, yes, I can see where you're going with that. I now have mailman and python functionality fixed on my server, so will get to grips with your and Simon's tips soon. lee --- John DeCarlo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lee, Lee wrote: I was advised by my hosting support to set up a 'dummy' simpler-addressed email account for list subscribers to write-to, which i would then auto-forward to the actual email address of the list. Simon described the situation very well. I thought I would add one note, which may or may not affect you. When forwarding one email address to another for Mailman, under some circumstances you have to worry about the implicit address problem. As I understand it, this is when the real address of the list isn't in the To: or CC: This has happened when I moved a list from one machine to another and simply forwarded all mail to the new address. The answer, in this case, is to go to the Privacy - Recipient Filters section and add alternate email addresses users may send to to the list of aliases. Hope this helps. -- John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own ___ BT Yahoo! Broadband - Free modem offer, sign up online today and save £80 http://btyahoo.yahoo.co.uk -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] removing members who aren't on the list ???
At 8:32 AM -0500 2004/01/29, Heather Skojec wrote: When I try to remove them from the list, the address listed is not subscribed. I assume that this means the listserv email is forwarded to the email address that isn't working. Is there anyway to find out what the original email address is so that I can remove these from the subscribers list? See http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq02.002.htp and http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.012.htp. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania. GCS/IT d+(-) s:+(++): a C++(+++)$ UMBSHI$ P+++ L+ !E-(---) W+++(--) N+ !w--- O- M++ V PS++(+++) PE- Y+(++) PGP+++ t+(+++) 5++(+++) X++(+++) R+(+++) tv+(+++) b+() DI+() D+(++) G+() e++ h--- r---(+++)* z(+++) -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Need help diagnosing bounce processing and logging problems
Dave Fisher wrote: I've already noticed a range of different errors. The most common seem to be temporary routing and name lookup problems, so I'd like to find out how I can ensure that exim/mailman tries to re-send the original for longer, i.e. until the temporary problem has gone away. That has nothing to do with mailman, but with your mailserver, i.e. Exim. You may want to have a look at the retry rules in exim.conf (or whatever you have as configuration file); it should be the second last part, IIRC. Is there any documentation, or some obvious option that I've overlooked, about this? You'll have to refer to the documentation of your mail server (MTA), i.e. Exim (which is really good) at http://www.exim.org/. Mailman has completely done its job when the mail is delivered to the MTA. -thh -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] bug in mailman
hello, are you hosted on Sitelutions as I am? I had the exact same trouble; they have also been working on their servers over the past few days. They tell me it is all fixed now. lee --- Josephine Foo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi, our mailing lists [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] are on your mailman, and they havebeen up and down for the last week. today we got this message when we accessed the admin page--hope you can help us. josey foo please reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Bug in Mailman version 2.1.3 We're sorry, we hit a bug! If you would like to help us identify the problem, please email a copy of this page to the webmaster for this site with a description of what happened. Thanks! Traceback: Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/scripts/driver, line 223, in ? run_main() File /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/scripts/driver, line 97, in run_main print_traceback(logger) File /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/scripts/driver, line 120, in print_traceback print logfp, '' File /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/Mailman/Logging/StampedLogger.py, line 73, in write Logger.write(self, %s %s % (prefix, msg)) MemoryError _ Python information: Variable Value sys.version2.2.2 (#1, Feb 24 2003, 19:13:11) [GCC 3.2.2 20030222 (Red Hat Linux 3.2.2-4)] sys.executable /usr/bin/python2 sys.prefix /usr sys.exec_prefix/usr sys.path /usr sys.platform linux2 _ Environment variables: Variable Value HTTP_REFERER http://www.sanjuanpeace.org/ SERVER_SOFTWARE Apache/1.3.29 (Unix) mod_auth_passthrough/1.8 mod_log_bytes/1.2 mod_bwlimited/1.4 PHP/4.3.4 FrontPage/5.0.2.2634 mod_ssl/2.8.16 OpenSSL/0.9.7a PYTHONPATH/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman SCRIPT_FILENAME /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo SERVER_ADMIN [EMAIL PROTECTED] SCRIPT_NAME /mailman/listinfo REQUEST_METHODGET HTTP_HOST sanjuanpeace.org PATH_INFO /messageboard_sanjuanpeace.org SERVER_PROTOCOL HTTP/1.1 QUERY_STRING REQUEST_URI /mailman/listinfo/messageboard_sanjuanpeace.org HTTP_ACCEPT */* HTTP_USER_AGENT Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1) HTTP_CONNECTION Keep-Alive SERVER_NAME www.sanjuanpeace.org REMOTE_ADDR 67.41.7.225 REMOTE_PORT 1540 HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE en-us PATH_TRANSLATED /home/sanjuanp/public_html/messageboard_sanjuanpeace.org SERVER_PORT 80 GATEWAY_INTERFACE CGI/1.1 HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING gzip, deflate SERVER_ADDR 69.10.149.14 DOCUMENT_ROOT /home/sanjuanp/public_html -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/lee_19712003%40yahoo.com ___ BT Yahoo! Broadband - Free modem offer, sign up online today and save £80 http://btyahoo.yahoo.co.uk -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] configuring mailman
Hi guys I want to use mailman without actually using the web interface. Are there any known issues with that or you suggest that I have apache installed in any case? Thanks Os solaris 9 MTA Sendmail Jaskaran Singh University Systems Security Fairleigh Dickinson University 1000 River Road, Mail Stop TBH1-01 Teaneck, NJ 07666 -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] 2.1.4 info/html issue
Fred, If you will just cut and paste the Listinfo source I would be happy to take a look at it for you on my test 2.1.4 install. I'm able to add the html code from your example and it works in my install - of course you have to play with it a bit to get it all to work. Jon Carnes On Fri, 2004-01-30 at 15:44, Fred Stutzman wrote: Hi, Does anyone have any last ideas about my issue, described in the thread below? If not, i'll submit a bug. Thanks, Fred On Wed, 28 Jan 2004, Fred Stutzman wrote: Thanks for the advice - unfortunately, that doesn't seem to be the solution. I played around with one of my own lists, and was able to replicate the behavior. You can check that out at: http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/somewhat This list had no html in the info section until I added it this afternoon. Thanks! Fred On 28 Jan 2004, Jon Carnes wrote: On Wed, 2004-01-28 at 17:55, Fred Stutzman wrote: Hi, We recently upgraded to Mailman 2.1.4, and we're encountering an issue that I can't seem to track down. Our user had previously configured their info option to include html information. Until the upgrade, this has always displayed on the list front page as html. The html is now being displayed as text. You can see an example of this by visiting: http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/pbs For example : ! - font size = 5bemPacific Bulb Society Mailing List/em/b/font I've spent a few hours attempting to track this issue down, but I'm running out of options. I've messed with the DEFAULT_CONVERT_HTML_TO_PLAINTEXT options, and re-entered the info information with pure, compliant HTML. I didn't see anything in the NEWS file that would explain why this is happening. Any ideas? Thanks, Fred Login to the Web Admin for that list and then click on: Edit the public HTML pages Then click on: General list information page Looks like the upgrade might have thrown in a pre /pre block around the added text it found there. You should be able to edit it back into the HTML shape it was in. If not, post the source you get for the listinfo page and I'll be happy to take a look at it. Jon Carnes (local Trilugger) -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/fred%40metalab.unc.edu -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/jonc%40nc.rr.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] x.509 cert authentication for web interface?
You'll need to dive into the code for that. Mailman is totally and blissfully unaware of such authentications. Good Luck - Jon Carnes On Fri, 2004-01-30 at 16:11, Noah Meyerhans wrote: On Fri, Jan 30, 2004 at 03:25:24PM -0500, Jon Carnes wrote: Just move the script alias inside the ssl part of your httpd.conf. I've already got the script alias in the SSL section of Apache's config. That works fine, but it's most definitely not authenticating based on the x509 certificate presented by the browser. It it supposed to? I haven't seen any indication in the documentation that leads me to believe it is. Please point me to whatever docs I'm missing if I am missing something. Or tell me where in mailman's source code I can find that functionality. In case I was not clear in my intentions: If the browser presents an x509 certificate that is properly signed by my Certificate Authority, and the email address associated with the certificate is listed in the admin or moderator fields in Mailman, then the user should be considered authenticated. At no point should they be prompted for a password. noah -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] configuring mailman
On Fri, 2004-01-30 at 17:46, jsingh wrote: Hi guys I want to use mailman without actually using the web interface. Are there any known issues with that or you suggest that I have apache installed in any case? Thanks Os solaris 9 MTA Sendmail The main advantage of Mailman is its web-based interface for dealing with setup, administration, and moderation. There are some things you will NOT be able to do (easily) without at least administrative (local) html access to the Mailman lists. If it's important that you don't have html access at all then consider using Majordomo. Jon Carnes -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org