[Mailman-Users] Member Options Page

2004-01-30 Thread Hannes Calitz
Hi

 

I don't know if anyone can help, but when I edit the Member Options HTML
page, everything displays fine. For 10 minutes that is. After that, if I go
check, it has reverted back to the original page. When I go to the edit page
to change it again, it is still how I left it. Then if I click the Submit
your changes button, and check the page, it is how I changed it, albeit for
only 10 minutes. Any help would be greatly appreciated. PLEEASE!!!

 

Tx

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Can I set up a user-friendly write-to address?

2004-01-30 Thread Simon White
29-Jan-04 at 23:42, Lee ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote :
 I was advised by my hosting support to set up a
 'dummy' simpler-addressed email account for list
 subscribers to write-to, which i would then
 auto-forward to the actual email address of the list.
 
 yes, if my list is open to subscribers only, the
 'dummy' address would need to be a subscriber of the
 actual list, but I feel I need to look deeper into
 this.

No. The 'dummy' address is merely a pointer to the real list address.
This does not require the 'dummy' address to be a subscriber, because
the emails will be passed on (transparently) to the list, and with the
original sender still in place of course.

The 'dummy' address will be an alias for the real address, nothing more.
The important part will be getting messages to go out with the Reply
address set correctly.

 For eg, mailman would send out mail from its 'real'
 address which I would have to configure in the
 settings to appear as the 'dummy address' - presumably
 I would do this by adding the dummy as the explicit
 reply-to address?

You can do that, but some email clients might not obey the Reply-To
address correctly, you will be watertight only if you can set the main
From address correctly...

 I can also see issues regarding the dummy email's 
 subscriber 'metoo' and 'no mail' options - 
 I'm assuming they need to be set to not receive any
 list mails at all, to avoid a mail loop and
 duplicates?

Nope... the 'dummy' address (alias) does not need to be a subscriber.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Can I set up a user-friendly write-to address?

2004-01-30 Thread Lee

Simon,

thanks for that - I got the feeling my hosting support
hadn't really thought it through!


lee

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29-Jan-04 at 23:42, Lee ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
 wrote :
  I was advised by my hosting support to set up a
  'dummy' simpler-addressed email account for list
  subscribers to write-to, which i would then
  auto-forward to the actual email address of the
 list.
  
  yes, if my list is open to subscribers only, the
  'dummy' address would need to be a subscriber of
 the
  actual list, but I feel I need to look deeper into
  this.
 
 No. The 'dummy' address is merely a pointer to the
 real list address.
 This does not require the 'dummy' address to be a
 subscriber, because
 the emails will be passed on (transparently) to the
 list, and with the
 original sender still in place of course.
 
 The 'dummy' address will be an alias for the real
 address, nothing more.
 The important part will be getting messages to go
 out with the Reply
 address set correctly.
 
  For eg, mailman would send out mail from its
 'real'
  address which I would have to configure in the
  settings to appear as the 'dummy address' -
 presumably
  I would do this by adding the dummy as the
 explicit
  reply-to address?
 
 You can do that, but some email clients might not
 obey the Reply-To
 address correctly, you will be watertight only if
 you can set the main
 From address correctly...
 
  I can also see issues regarding the dummy email's 
  subscriber 'metoo' and 'no mail' options - 
  I'm assuming they need to be set to not receive
 any
  list mails at all, to avoid a mail loop and
  duplicates?
 
 Nope... the 'dummy' address (alias) does not need to
 be a subscriber.
 
 Regards,
 
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 Server Administration.
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 MySQL MSSQL Access
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 tech team.
 

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Can I set up a user-friendly write-to address?

2004-01-30 Thread Simon White
30-Jan-04 at 10:34, Lee ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote :
 thanks for that - I got the feeling my hosting support
 hadn't really thought it through!

They certainly didn't explain it to you properly did they?

:-)

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[Mailman-Users] re: Member Options Page

2004-01-30 Thread Lee
hello,

I was just thinking about your message -
make sure you have (all) cookies enabled in your
browser, for your changes to work.

lee
---
Hi

 

I don't know if anyone can help, but when I edit the
Member Options HTML
page, everything displays fine. For 10 minutes that
is. After that, if I go
check, it has reverted back to the original page. When
I go to the edit page
to change it again, it is still how I left it. Then if
I click the Submit
your changes button, and check the page, it is how I
changed it, albeit for
only 10 minutes. Any help would be greatly
appreciated. PLEEASE!!!

 

Tx

Hannes






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[Mailman-Users] locks

2004-01-30 Thread Brian Haines
I am very new to all of this including using Mailman, Linux, Sendmail,
etc...

I have Mialman 2.0.13-1 on Red Hat Linux using Sendmail as the MTA.

It has worked a few times, but right now when I send my announcement it
fails. Why I don't know but here are some things I can see:

There are files in the /var/mailman/locks folder called qrunner.lock and
qrunner.lock.www.domain.name. When I delete them and refresh the list I can
briefly see listname.lock and listname.lock.www.domain.name and the above,
but the listname items disappear after a few minutes.

Here is the TOP output. I don't know what else to look for. Nothing is going
out anywhere.


20010 root  16   0   696  696   600 S 0.0  0.1   0:00 CROND
20012 mailman   15   0 35840  35M  1612 S 0.0  6.9   0:07
/usr/bin/python -S /var/mailman/cron/qrunner
20114 root  16   0   696  696   600 S 0.0  0.1   0:00 CROND
20115 mailman   15   0 35840  35M  1612 S 0.0  6.9   0:06
/usr/bin/python -S /var/mailman/cron/qrunner
20130 root  16   0   696  696   600 S 0.0  0.1   0:00 CROND
20131 mailman   15   0 35840  35M  1612 S 0.0  6.9   0:06
/usr/bin/python -S /var/mailman/cron/qrunner
20224 root  16   0  2300 2296  1636 S 0.0  0.4   0:00 sendmail:
server [xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx] child wait
20225 root  15   0  3060 3056  1664 S 0.0  0.5   0:00 sendmail:
i0UDC4e20225 [xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx]: rcpt TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
20279 root  16   0  2300 2296  1636 S 0.0  0.4   0:00 sendmail:
server [xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx] child wait
20297 root  16   0  2300 2296  1636 S 0.0  0.4   0:00 sendmail:
server [xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx] child wait
20298 root  15   0  2528 2524  1664 S 0.0  0.4   0:00 sendmail:
i0UDGfe20298 [xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx]: rcpt TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
20299 root  16   0  2300 2296  1636 S 0.0  0.4   0:00 sendmail:
server [xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx] child wait
20300 root  15   0  2564 2560  1664 S 0.0  0.4   0:00 sendmail:
i0UDGoe20300 [xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx]: rcpt TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx is our IP address. I mention this because we are using
something else I am unfamiliar with called IPTables to assign the outgoing
mail to one of our other IP addresses like so:

iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -p tcp --dport 25 -j SNAT --to-source
xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx

I don't even know enough to know if xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx in TOP should be our IP
or the receiving server IP.

I do appreciate any hep at all.

Brian


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Member Options Page

2004-01-30 Thread Jon Carnes
On Fri, 2004-01-30 at 02:47, Hannes Calitz wrote:
 Hi
 
  
 
 I don't know if anyone can help, but when I edit the Member Options HTML
 page, everything displays fine. For 10 minutes that is. After that, if I go
 check, it has reverted back to the original page. When I go to the edit page
 to change it again, it is still how I left it. Then if I click the Submit
 your changes button, and check the page, it is how I changed it, albeit for
 only 10 minutes. Any help would be greatly appreciated. PLEEASE!!!
 
  
 
 Tx
 
 Hannes

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  service mailman restart

From a scratch build:
  ~mailman/bin/mailmanctl restart


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[Mailman-Users] administrivia not working

2004-01-30 Thread George Andrews
Hi, 

I have checked the appropriate box under General
Options for the administrivia filter. 

Is there a trigger word list somewhere to edit?

Am I out of sync with another group of settings.
perhaps? 

Thank you in advance.

Jane

version 2.1.2

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[Mailman-Users] Error: Unknown virtual host when creating a new list

2004-01-30 Thread Andrew Stebakov
Hello,
 
I can create a new list using the newlist command (mailman v 2.1.4), but when I go to 
the web interface with http://mydomain.com/mailman/create, type in all the info, the I 
have the result as Error: Unknown virtual host: mydomain.com. Could anyone shed some 
light on this?
 
Thanks a lot!
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[Mailman-Users] Subscription/UnSubscription withoug a password

2004-01-30 Thread Andrew Stebakov
Hi,
I was wondering if it's ever possible in mailman not to use any password when the user 
subscribes or unsubscribes? If no, what's the reason for that? I've seen many 
newsletters subscription that didn't require a password. A confirmation email/click 
should be just enough to subscribe, same goes for unsubscribe.
 
Thanks,
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[Mailman-Users] x.509 cert authentication for web interface?

2004-01-30 Thread Noah Meyerhans
Hi all.  I'm wondering if anybody has devised a way to authenticate to
the admin/moderator interfaces in Mailman using browser certificates.
We try to use them to authenticate to web services wherever possible,
and have a fairly widely deployed PKI at my site.

It seems like this should be possible, but I really don't know python
and am not very familiar with Mailman's code.  We use Apache and
mod_ssl, which means that we can make a bunch of environment variables
associated with the certificates available to Mailman.  In particular,
we can find out the email address of the user.  It seems like we should
be able to look for that email address in the list of admin or moderator
addresses and consider the user to be authenticated if it's there.  The
web server is already doing the necessary work to verify that the
certificate is valid, so everything presented to Mailman should be
trustworthy.

Any help would be much appreciated.

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[Mailman-Users] multiple (virtual) domains

2004-01-30 Thread michael
Hello -

I seem to be having trouble with my mailman install.  We have a single
mailman install on a server with multiple domains.  When I go into the
list admin (general) page for any list on the server, it shows
scighera.badgerracing.com for host_name.  I've changed this to
zaurususergroup.com (for the list that I'd like to have for that site). 
But when I test subscribing to the site, I don't receive a confirmation
email, nor do I see my address in the membership management page.

Here's my setup:
mailman 2.14
sendmail 8.12.10
slackware 9

I've been reading as much as I can on the FAQs and documentation that I
can find.  Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks!

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[Mailman-Users] postfix + mailman, bounce detection not working?

2004-01-30 Thread Robert Breithuber
i have no idea whats going wrong:

i have lots of entries in ..mailman/logs/smtp-failure like this:

Jan 27 22:26:39 2004 (29932) delivery to [EMAIL PROTECTED] failed with code 
450: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Recipient address rejected: Domain not found

since weeks now every 15min (!)

i am using postfix as MTA.

any ideas what may go wrong? is this not a case for bounce processing?
i checked, the bounce settings and anything seems to setted correctly.

everything else is working perfectly!

any hint would be very appreciated...

greetings,
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[Mailman-Users] Creating mailing lists

2004-01-30 Thread Aanda Faith
Hi, 

My  name is Amanda Faith and I work for a church that is interested in setting up 
email lists for different groups in the church.  We were wondering about your services 
and how exactly we'd set up the lists.  Also, I would like to know if there is a limit 
to the  number of lists we would be able to set up.  Thanks for your help, 

Amanda Faith
All Souls Church
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(918) 743-2363
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[Mailman-Users] bug in mailman

2004-01-30 Thread Josephine Foo
 
hi, our mailing lists [EMAIL PROTECTED] and
[EMAIL PROTECTED] are on your mailman, and they havebeen up and down
for the last week.  today we got this message when we accessed the admin
page--hope you can help us.  
 
josey foo
please reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
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Bug in Mailman version 2.1.3



We're sorry, we hit a bug!


If you would like to help us identify the problem, please email a copy
of this page to the webmaster for this site with a description of what
happened. Thanks! 

Traceback:


Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/scripts/driver, line 223, in
?
run_main()
  File /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/scripts/driver, line 97, in
run_main
print_traceback(logger)
  File /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/scripts/driver, line 120, in
print_traceback
print  logfp, ''
  File
/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/Mailman/Logging/StampedLogger.py,
line 73, in write
Logger.write(self, %s %s % (prefix, msg))
MemoryError



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Python information:


Variable Value  
sys.version  2.2.2 (#1, Feb 24 2003, 19:13:11) [GCC 3.2.2 20030222
(Red Hat Linux 3.2.2-4)]
sys.executable   /usr/bin/python2   
sys.prefix   /usr   
sys.exec_prefix  /usr   
sys.path /usr   
sys.platform linux2 

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Environment variables:


Variable Value  
HTTP_REFERERhttp://www.sanjuanpeace.org/
SERVER_SOFTWARE Apache/1.3.29 (Unix) mod_auth_passthrough/1.8
mod_log_bytes/1.2 mod_bwlimited/1.4 PHP/4.3.4 FrontPage/5.0.2.2634
mod_ssl/2.8.16 OpenSSL/0.9.7a   
PYTHONPATH  /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman  
SCRIPT_FILENAME
/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo 
SERVER_ADMIN[EMAIL PROTECTED]   
SCRIPT_NAME /mailman/listinfo   
REQUEST_METHOD  GET 
HTTP_HOST   sanjuanpeace.org
PATH_INFO   /messageboard_sanjuanpeace.org  
SERVER_PROTOCOL HTTP/1.1
QUERY_STRING
REQUEST_URI /mailman/listinfo/messageboard_sanjuanpeace.org 
HTTP_ACCEPT */* 
HTTP_USER_AGENT Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT
5.1)
HTTP_CONNECTION Keep-Alive  
SERVER_NAME www.sanjuanpeace.org
REMOTE_ADDR 67.41.7.225 
REMOTE_PORT 1540
HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGEen-us   
PATH_TRANSLATED
/home/sanjuanp/public_html/messageboard_sanjuanpeace.org
SERVER_PORT 80  
GATEWAY_INTERFACE   CGI/1.1 
HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODINGgzip, deflate   
SERVER_ADDR 69.10.149.14
DOCUMENT_ROOT   /home/sanjuanp/public_html  

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[Mailman-Users] Question About Mail Man Bounced emails

2004-01-30 Thread Nicholas Tritchew
How does Mail Man mailing list manager handle bounces?

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[Mailman-Users] removing members who aren't on the list ???

2004-01-30 Thread Heather Skojec
Hi.

I'm the list administrator for a listserv that goes out weekly to about
2000 email addresses.  Each week I receive about 15-20 bounced emails.
When I try to remove them from the list, the address listed is not
subscribed.  I assume that this means the listserv email is forwarded to
the email address that isn't working.  Is there anyway to find out what
the original email address is so that I can remove these from the
subscribers list?

Thanks for your help.

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Program Assistant
Center for Civic Ed. and Service
Florida State University
850 644-3342
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[Mailman-Users] Cannot get GUI to work

2004-01-30 Thread William C. Mueller
We are setting up Mailman 2.1.4 for testing and review
on a Red Hat Linux Enterprise 3.0 system.
Mailman installed OK and
usr/local/mailman/bin/check_perms produced no errors.
So unto Step 4. Final system set-up.
However here is where we run into problems.
We are trying to interface Mailman with Apache but
cannot get the Mailman GUI to run.
Per the instructions
httpd.conf was edited to include:
ScriptAlias /mailman/ /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/

Directory /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin
AllowOverride None
Options FollowSymLinks ExecCGI
Order allow,deny
Allow from all
/Directory
The ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ /var/www/cgi-bin/
and its Directory definition were commented out.
The web server was started with apachectl start.
Browsing into our machine we get only:
Index of /
with no files listed.
Also DocumentRoot and Directory were experimented with:

 DocumentRoot /var/www/html
 was changed to
 DocumentRoot /usr/local/mailman
 and

 Directory /var/www/html
 was changed to
 Directory /usr/local/mailman
Making this change resulted in the browser to display
all the files in /usr/local/mailman.
Clicking on the cgi-bin directory resulted in Forbidden
Access.
A listing of /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin
shows the following files.
admin
admindb
confirm
create
edithtml
listinfo
options
private
rmlist
roster
subscribe
We thought there should be .cgi files or an index.html
file in there. How do we point to the file that starts
the GUI interface?
Since we are just new to this environment the answer may
right in front of us and we can't see it.
Any help from this list would be much appreciated.

Thank you,
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Need help diagnosing bounce processing and logging problems

2004-01-30 Thread Dave Fisher
On Thu, Jan 29, 2004 at 10:26:31PM +0100, Thomas Hochstein wrote:
 Dave Fisher schrieb:
 
  From what I can see, Exim simply uses /etc/aliases lines to pipe all
  admin messages to /var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman on Debian, but I've no
  idea what Mailman does with them after that.
 
 At least on current versions of Mailman, mail is sent with an envelope
 of [EMAIL PROTECTED]; that means, bounces go back to
 that adress, and Exim then uses /etc/aliases lines to pipe all bounces
 to the mailman bounce-processing. It should be possible to change that
 line to send the mail (the bounce) to you *and* pipe it to mailman.


Thanks Thomas,

Just after I wrote my original request for help, I realised that I could
that and have now done so.

I would, however, still like to know what the automatic bounce
processing actually does in some detail.  

I've already noticed a range of different errors.  The most common seem
to be temporary routing and name lookup problems, so I'd like to find
out how I can ensure that exim/mailman tries to re-send the original for
longer, i.e. until the temporary problem has gone away.

Is there any documentation, or some obvious option that I've overlooked,
about this?

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[Mailman-Users] Mailman Setting question

2004-01-30 Thread Kory Wheatley
In Mailman 2.1.4, what option do  I change to allow
members and non-members to post to the list without
moderator approval. I want every message sent directly
to the list.

Rachelle Wheatley

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[Mailman-Users] Mailman Install - Virtuals

2004-01-30 Thread Ryan
Hello,
 
I've just installed mailman and I'm not sure where The web page for users of your 
mailing list (the link in the email received when creating a new list) is in 
relationship to the $prefix directory. 
 
Also, do I have to create any virtuals for admin web pages or archives or any others? 
I've read and reread the install doc several times and haven't seen anything 
indicating that I need to. 
 
I have made a few virtuals just to try to narrow it down and check them out from a web 
page. One to the $prefix/templates, $prefix/lists, and the $prefix/public directory 
(which has soft links pointing towards the lists in the private directory). In the 
lists that are in the private directory, each has a config.pck, config.pck.last, or 
request.db. I'm thinking maybe I'm not browsing the correct directory.
 
Please shed some light.
 
Thanks,
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[Mailman-Users] Migrate lists from 2.0.5 to 2.1.4

2004-01-30 Thread Anandha Krishnan
Hi,

I'm setting up a new system with newer OS and 2.1.4
version of mailman and need to migrate the old lists
to the new server with archive data. I would really
appreciate if someone could guide me through how to
get this done. I have tried to move the
/home/mailman/listls/~/* files and
/home/mailman/archive/~/* to the new system and ran
update but the old lists are not using the new
features of 2.1.4. In other words and lists created on
2.1.4 have different view on the web page than the
ones migrated from the old server.

Thank you for your in advance.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] x.509 cert authentication for web interface?

2004-01-30 Thread Jon Carnes
On Fri, 2004-01-30 at 14:03, Noah Meyerhans wrote:
 Hi all.  I'm wondering if anybody has devised a way to authenticate to
 the admin/moderator interfaces in Mailman using browser certificates.
 We try to use them to authenticate to web services wherever possible,
 and have a fairly widely deployed PKI at my site.
 
 It seems like this should be possible, but I really don't know python
 and am not very familiar with Mailman's code.  We use Apache and
 mod_ssl, which means that we can make a bunch of environment variables
 associated with the certificates available to Mailman.  In particular,
 we can find out the email address of the user.  It seems like we should
 be able to look for that email address in the list of admin or moderator
 addresses and consider the user to be authenticated if it's there.  The
 web server is already doing the necessary work to verify that the
 certificate is valid, so everything presented to Mailman should be
 trustworthy.
 
 Any help would be much appreciated.
 
 noah

Dude,

Just move the script alias inside the ssl part of your httpd.conf.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] 2.1.4 info/html issue

2004-01-30 Thread Fred Stutzman
Hi,

Does anyone have any last ideas about my issue, described in the thread 
below?  If not, i'll submit a bug.

Thanks,
Fred



On Wed, 28 Jan 2004, Fred Stutzman wrote:

 Thanks for the advice - unfortunately, that doesn't seem to be the 
 solution.  
 
 I played around with one of my own lists, and was able to replicate the
 behavior.  You can check that out at:
 
 http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/somewhat
 
 This list had no html in the info section until I added it this afternoon.  
 
 Thanks!
 Fred
 
 
 On 28 Jan 2004, Jon Carnes wrote:
 
  On Wed, 2004-01-28 at 17:55, Fred Stutzman wrote:
   Hi,
   
   We recently upgraded to Mailman 2.1.4, and we're encountering an issue 
   that I can't seem to track down.
   
   Our user had previously configured their info option to include html
   information.  Until the upgrade, this has always displayed on the list
   front page as html.  The html is now being displayed as text.  You can see
   an example of this by visiting:
   
   http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/pbs
   
   For example : ! - font size = 5bemPacific Bulb Society Mailing 
   List/em/b/font 
   
   I've spent a few hours attempting to track this issue down, but I'm 
   running out of options.  I've messed with the 
   DEFAULT_CONVERT_HTML_TO_PLAINTEXT options, and re-entered the info 
   information with pure, compliant HTML.  I didn't see anything in the NEWS 
   file that would explain why this is happening.
   
   Any ideas?  Thanks, Fred 
   
  Login to the Web Admin for that list and then click on:
Edit the public HTML pages
  
  Then click on:
General list information page
  
  Looks like the upgrade might have thrown in a pre /pre block around
  the added text it found there.  You should be able to edit it back into
  the HTML shape it was in.
  
  If not, post the source you get for the listinfo page and I'll be happy
  to take a look at it.
  
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Re: [Mailman-Users] x.509 cert authentication for web interface?

2004-01-30 Thread Noah Meyerhans
On Fri, Jan 30, 2004 at 03:25:24PM -0500, Jon Carnes wrote:
 
 Just move the script alias inside the ssl part of your httpd.conf.
 

I've already got the script alias in the SSL section of Apache's config.
That works fine, but it's most definitely not authenticating based on
the x509 certificate presented by the browser.  It it supposed to?  I
haven't seen any indication in the documentation that leads me to
believe it is.  Please point me to whatever docs I'm missing if I am
missing something.  Or tell me where in mailman's source code I can find
that functionality.

In case I was not clear in my intentions: If the browser presents an
x509 certificate that is properly signed by my Certificate Authority,
and the email address associated with the certificate is listed in the
admin or moderator fields in Mailman, then the user should be considered
authenticated.  At no point should they be prompted for a password.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Can I set up a user-friendly write-to address?

2004-01-30 Thread Lee

thanks John,

yes, I can see where you're going with that.
I now have mailman and python functionality fixed on
my server, so will get to grips with your and Simon's
tips soon.

lee


 --- John DeCarlo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Lee,
 
 Lee wrote:
 
  I was advised by my hosting support to set up a
  'dummy' simpler-addressed email account for list
  subscribers to write-to, which i would then
  auto-forward to the actual email address of the
 list.
 
 Simon described the situation very well.  I thought
 I would add one 
 note, which may or may not affect you.
 
 When forwarding one email address to another for
 Mailman, under some 
 circumstances you have to worry about the implicit
 address problem. 
 As I understand it, this is when the real address of
 the list isn't in 
 the To: or CC:
 
 This has happened when I moved a list from one
 machine to another and 
 simply forwarded all mail to the new address.
 
 The answer, in this case, is to go to the Privacy -
 Recipient Filters 
 section and add alternate email addresses users may
 send to to the list 
 of aliases.
 
 Hope this helps.
 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] removing members who aren't on the list ???

2004-01-30 Thread Brad Knowles
At 8:32 AM -0500 2004/01/29, Heather Skojec wrote:

 When I try to remove them from the list, the address listed is not
 subscribed.  I assume that this means the listserv email is forwarded to
 the email address that isn't working.  Is there anyway to find out what
 the original email address is so that I can remove these from the
 subscribers list?
	See 
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq02.002.htp 
and 
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.012.htp.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Need help diagnosing bounce processing and logging problems

2004-01-30 Thread Thomas Hochstein
Dave Fisher wrote:
 I've already noticed a range of different errors.  The most common seem
 to be temporary routing and name lookup problems, so I'd like to find
 out how I can ensure that exim/mailman tries to re-send the original for
 longer, i.e. until the temporary problem has gone away.

That has nothing to do with mailman, but with your mailserver, i.e.
Exim. You may want to have a look at the retry rules in exim.conf (or
whatever you have as configuration file); it should be the second last
part, IIRC.

 Is there any documentation, or some obvious option that I've overlooked,
 about this?

You'll have to refer to the documentation of your mail server (MTA),
i.e. Exim (which is really good) at http://www.exim.org/. Mailman
has completely done its job when the mail is delivered to the MTA.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] bug in mailman

2004-01-30 Thread Lee

hello,

are you hosted on Sitelutions as I am?
I had the exact same trouble; they have also been
working on their servers over the past few days.

They tell me it is all fixed now.

lee


 --- Josephine Foo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
 hi, our mailing lists [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 and
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] are on your mailman, and they
 havebeen up and down
 for the last week.  today we got this message when
 we accessed the admin
 page--hope you can help us.  
  
 josey foo
 please reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
   _  
 
 
 Bug in Mailman version 2.1.3
 
 
 
 We're sorry, we hit a bug!
 
 
 If you would like to help us identify the problem,
 please email a copy
 of this page to the webmaster for this site with a
 description of what
 happened. Thanks! 
 
 Traceback:
 
 
 Traceback (most recent call last):
   File
 /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/scripts/driver,
 line 223, in
 ?
 run_main()
   File
 /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/scripts/driver,
 line 97, in
 run_main
 print_traceback(logger)
   File
 /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/scripts/driver,
 line 120, in
 print_traceback
 print  logfp,
 ''
   File

/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/Mailman/Logging/StampedLogger.py,
 line 73, in write
 Logger.write(self, %s %s % (prefix, msg))
 MemoryError
 
 
 
   _  
 
 
 Python information:
 
 
 Variable   Value  
 sys.version2.2.2 (#1, Feb 24 2003, 19:13:11) [GCC
 3.2.2 20030222
 (Red Hat Linux 3.2.2-4)]  
 sys.executable /usr/bin/python2   
 sys.prefix /usr   
 sys.exec_prefix/usr   
 sys.path   /usr   
 sys.platform   linux2 
 
   _  
 
 
 Environment variables:
 
 
 Variable   Value  
 HTTP_REFERER  http://www.sanjuanpeace.org/
 SERVER_SOFTWARE   Apache/1.3.29 (Unix)
 mod_auth_passthrough/1.8
 mod_log_bytes/1.2 mod_bwlimited/1.4 PHP/4.3.4
 FrontPage/5.0.2.2634
 mod_ssl/2.8.16 OpenSSL/0.9.7a 
 PYTHONPATH/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman  
 SCRIPT_FILENAME
 /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo 
 
 SERVER_ADMIN  [EMAIL PROTECTED]   
 SCRIPT_NAME   /mailman/listinfo   
 REQUEST_METHODGET 
 HTTP_HOST sanjuanpeace.org
 PATH_INFO /messageboard_sanjuanpeace.org  
 SERVER_PROTOCOL   HTTP/1.1
 QUERY_STRING  
 REQUEST_URI 
 /mailman/listinfo/messageboard_sanjuanpeace.org   
 HTTP_ACCEPT   */* 
 HTTP_USER_AGENT   Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0;
 Windows NT
 5.1)  
 HTTP_CONNECTION   Keep-Alive  
 SERVER_NAME   www.sanjuanpeace.org
 REMOTE_ADDR   67.41.7.225 
 REMOTE_PORT   1540
 HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE  en-us   
 PATH_TRANSLATED

/home/sanjuanp/public_html/messageboard_sanjuanpeace.org
   
 SERVER_PORT   80  
 GATEWAY_INTERFACE CGI/1.1 
 HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING  gzip, deflate   
 SERVER_ADDR   69.10.149.14
 DOCUMENT_ROOT /home/sanjuanp/public_html  
 

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[Mailman-Users] configuring mailman

2004-01-30 Thread jsingh
Hi guys

 I want to use mailman without actually using the web interface. Are there
any known issues with that or you suggest that I have apache installed in
any case?

Thanks

 

Os solaris 9

MTA Sendmail

 

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Re: [Mailman-Users] 2.1.4 info/html issue

2004-01-30 Thread Jon Carnes
Fred,

If you will just cut and paste the Listinfo source I would be happy to
take a look at it for you on my test 2.1.4 install.  I'm able to add the
html code from your example and it works in my install - of course you
have to play with it a bit to get it all to work.

Jon Carnes

On Fri, 2004-01-30 at 15:44, Fred Stutzman wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Does anyone have any last ideas about my issue, described in the thread 
 below?  If not, i'll submit a bug.
 
 Thanks,
 Fred
 
 
 
 On Wed, 28 Jan 2004, Fred Stutzman wrote:
 
  Thanks for the advice - unfortunately, that doesn't seem to be the 
  solution.  
  
  I played around with one of my own lists, and was able to replicate the
  behavior.  You can check that out at:
  
  http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/somewhat
  
  This list had no html in the info section until I added it this afternoon.  
  
  Thanks!
  Fred
  
  
  On 28 Jan 2004, Jon Carnes wrote:
  
   On Wed, 2004-01-28 at 17:55, Fred Stutzman wrote:
Hi,

We recently upgraded to Mailman 2.1.4, and we're encountering an issue 
that I can't seem to track down.

Our user had previously configured their info option to include html
information.  Until the upgrade, this has always displayed on the list
front page as html.  The html is now being displayed as text.  You can see
an example of this by visiting:

http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/pbs

For example : ! - font size = 5bemPacific Bulb Society Mailing 
List/em/b/font 

I've spent a few hours attempting to track this issue down, but I'm 
running out of options.  I've messed with the 
DEFAULT_CONVERT_HTML_TO_PLAINTEXT options, and re-entered the info 
information with pure, compliant HTML.  I didn't see anything in the NEWS 
file that would explain why this is happening.

Any ideas?  Thanks, Fred 

   Login to the Web Admin for that list and then click on:
 Edit the public HTML pages
   
   Then click on:
 General list information page
   
   Looks like the upgrade might have thrown in a pre /pre block around
   the added text it found there.  You should be able to edit it back into
   the HTML shape it was in.
   
   If not, post the source you get for the listinfo page and I'll be happy
   to take a look at it.
   
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Re: [Mailman-Users] x.509 cert authentication for web interface?

2004-01-30 Thread Jon Carnes
You'll need to dive into the code for that. Mailman is totally and
blissfully unaware of such authentications.

Good Luck - Jon Carnes

On Fri, 2004-01-30 at 16:11, Noah Meyerhans wrote:
 On Fri, Jan 30, 2004 at 03:25:24PM -0500, Jon Carnes wrote:
  
  Just move the script alias inside the ssl part of your httpd.conf.
  
 
 I've already got the script alias in the SSL section of Apache's config.
 That works fine, but it's most definitely not authenticating based on
 the x509 certificate presented by the browser.  It it supposed to?  I
 haven't seen any indication in the documentation that leads me to
 believe it is.  Please point me to whatever docs I'm missing if I am
 missing something.  Or tell me where in mailman's source code I can find
 that functionality.
 
 In case I was not clear in my intentions: If the browser presents an
 x509 certificate that is properly signed by my Certificate Authority,
 and the email address associated with the certificate is listed in the
 admin or moderator fields in Mailman, then the user should be considered
 authenticated.  At no point should they be prompted for a password.
 
 noah


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Re: [Mailman-Users] configuring mailman

2004-01-30 Thread Jon Carnes
On Fri, 2004-01-30 at 17:46, jsingh wrote:
 Hi guys
 
  I want to use mailman without actually using the web interface. Are there
 any known issues with that or you suggest that I have apache installed in
 any case?
 
 Thanks
 
  
 
 Os solaris 9
 
 MTA Sendmail
 
The main advantage of Mailman is its web-based interface for dealing
with setup, administration, and moderation.  There are some things you
will NOT be able to do (easily) without at least administrative (local)
html access to the Mailman lists.

If it's important that you don't have html access at all then consider
using Majordomo.

Jon Carnes


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