Re: [Mailman-Users] Changing the name of a list

2004-05-09 Thread Kai Schaetzl
John Poltorak wrote on Sat, 8 May 2004 16:56:55 +0100:

 What is the best way of changing the name of a list?


copy the directory to a new name and then edit the list name in the web 
interface (going to the URL for the new list, of course). This is probably 
more difficult if you have archives, too.
And change the aliases :-)


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Question?

2004-05-09 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Richard Barrett wrote on Sun, 9 May 2004 08:35:14 +0100:

 It appears that not all version of MS Outlook have this behaviour


There is a misunderstanding in that FAQ article: MS Outlook and MS Outlook 
Express are two totally different programs, despite both having Outlook 
in the name. The article munges the both a bit. I'd simply remove any 
mention of Outlook Express in it.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Question?

2004-05-09 Thread Richard Barrett
On 9 May 2004, at 12:31, Kai Schaetzl wrote:

Richard Barrett wrote on Sun, 9 May 2004 08:35:14 +0100:

It appears that not all version of MS Outlook have this behaviour

There is a misunderstanding in that FAQ article: MS Outlook and MS 
Outlook
Express are two totally different programs, despite both having 
Outlook
in the name. The article munges the both a bit. I'd simply remove any
mention of Outlook Express in it.

So change it. The Mailman FAQ is community help and you do not need an 
invitation! As long as the changes are rational and non-abusive ...

Too many spectators too few players?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Setting DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST

2004-05-09 Thread John Poltorak
On Fri, May 07, 2004 at 01:55:48PM -0400, Todd wrote:
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  How can I go about setting DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST when building Mailman?
 
 ./configure --help
 [...]
   --with-mailhost  specify the hostname part for outgoing email
   --with-urlhost   specify the hostname part of urls
 [...]


Thanks or that. Looks like these options must have come in after v2.0.13...

 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Setting DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST

2004-05-09 Thread Todd
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John Poltorak wrote:
 Thanks or that. Looks like these options must have come in after
 v2.0.13...

DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST isn't used in 2.0, that's partly why I assumed you
were asking about 2.1.  If yo uwant to set the equivalent options in
Defaults.py while configuring, set the enviromental variables MAILHOST
and WWWHOST.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Question?

2004-05-09 Thread texas critter
Richard Barrett wrote:

 If you have definitive knowledge about such products then you will note
 that the FAQ entry invites you to add to the sume total of human
 knowledge when it says:

The FAQ is correct and doesn't need any changes, it clearly states that the
problem is confined to Outlook and that OE displays the From correctly.
(And I have no additional info about Outlook since I don't use it for
email.)

It was Thomas' post here that was incorrect, that was the purpose of my
question and my reply, pointing out to him (and anyone else who might have
been confused) that the problem didn't occur in OE, only in Outlook.

So all's well! :)

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Question?

2004-05-09 Thread texas critter
Kai Schaetzl wrote:

 There is a misunderstanding in that FAQ article: MS Outlook and MS
 Outlook Express are two totally different programs, despite both having
 Outlook in the name. The article munges the both a bit. I'd simply
 remove any mention of Outlook Express in it.

My two cents, leave in the mention of OE since some people don't know
there's a difference.  The FAQ is correct, it does state in two places that
OE functions properly and that the problem only occurs with Outlook.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Question?

2004-05-09 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Richard Barrett wrote on Sun, 9 May 2004 12:46:56 +0100:

 So change it.


I didn't feel like doing so since I'm not very much involved in Mailman. 
Anyway, have done now.


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[Mailman-Users] return-path and virtual domains

2004-05-09 Thread Heiner Lamprecht
Hi,

I'm fighting a little bit with MM and virtual domains. I use postfix 
as MTA, the mailaddresses are stored in a MySQL-DB.

Let's say, I have two domains: a.tdl and b.tdl, where a.tdl is the 
real name of the server.

Using the scripts written by Martin Müller 
(http://www.web-cyradm.org/pipermail/web-cyradm/2003-April/000918.html), 
I have created a list [EMAIL PROTECTED]. The address of the list is an 
alias to [EMAIL PROTECTED]. When I post to the latter, everything 
works fine. But if I post to the desired address [EMAIL PROTECTED], the 
messages first were being hold for approval by the moderator. So I 
added this address to the acceptable_aliases.

Okay, now I can post to this address, but the real name 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] is used as the return-path further on. Is there 
any way to completely hide the real address to the user?


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Re: [Mailman-Users] return-path and virtual domains

2004-05-09 Thread Brad Knowles
At 8:00 PM +0200 2004/05/09, Heiner Lamprecht wrote:

 Okay, now I can post to this address, but the real name
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] is used as the return-path further on. Is there
 any way to completely hide the real address to the user?
	This would be up to your MTA.  You'd need to ask this question on 
a mailing list or newsgroup that is specific to that program.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Question?

2004-05-09 Thread Thomas Hochstein
texas critter schrieb:

 Yes. Outlook (Express) is infamous for this more than strange display
 of headers.

 Really?  I've been using OE and Mailman for several years and I've never
 seen any kind of strange display of headers or the From field in any email.

Just omit the word in brackets in my mail ... Obviously OE is doing it
correctly.

Sorry,
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Re: [Mailman-Users] True anonymous list?

2004-05-09 Thread Ed Greenberg
You could deliver the mail to a script that extracts the subject and body 
and then reposts it to the list, coming from a generic user.

If you want to restrict posting to members, you could look up the actual 
from address in the list before forwarding the post.

Would that meet your needs?

/edg



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Hello list,
We have been using Mailman 2.0.13 for quite some time, but never with the
intention of creating a genuinely anonymous mailing list.  Now, we have a
reason to do so, but I have been unable to completely hide the originator
(poster's) email address from the headers of the sent mail.  Obviously,
anyone knowing how to read the headers will find the address of the
poster. So, is there a way to make a list anonymous even at this level?
Any help appreciated.  For completeness, I believe I have followed the
FAQ's and help and set explicit-reply to and hide posters address etc.
correctly... Maybe not?
Thanks,
Michael Balamuth
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Question?

2004-05-09 Thread Richard Barrett
On 9 May 2004, at 07:40, texas critter wrote:

Richard Barrett wrote:

On 9 May 2004, at 00:35, texas critter wrote:

Thomas Hochstein wrote:

Yes. Outlook (Express) is infamous for this more than strange 
display
of headers.
Do you have more specific info about this problem?

http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq02.003.htp
Ah!  That this problem only applies to Outlook, which, despite the name
similarity, is quite different from Outlook Express.  That FAQ entry 
says:

In contrast many other MUAs including version of MS Outlook Express 
just
render the From field using the value of the From mail header.

I know what the entry FAQ says; I wrote it in July last year after some 
basic research and a cursory look at how a limited sample of some 
versions of the MS MUA products worked, following a spate of postings 
to this list about the displayed From field MS MUA users were seeing.

If you have definitive knowledge about such products then you will note 
that the FAQ entry invites you to add to the sume total of human 
knowledge when it says:

quote
It appears that not all version of MS Outlook have this behaviour. If 
you know of versions that do or do not, then add the information to 
this FAQ page.
/quote

Outlook does lots of strange things.  OE (other than the MS security
problems) behaves more normally.
Well, that is reassuring.

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