[Mailman-Users] how to avoid the anit-spoofing error
Hello, I am running a list where a few subcribers are from a company. The list server is outside the company. Everything works great! But it seems that this company recently implemented anti-spoofing on emails and subsribers from that company are no longer able to receive any emails sent to the list by people from the same company. Here is the log message I got. (reason: 550 Error: Anti-spoofing - From header field in inbound eMail cannot be local domain) Is there a way to configure the list server so that this problem can be avoided? Thanks a lot! Weijun. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] how to avoid the anit-spoofing error
At 12:15 AM -0700 2004-06-14, Weijun Zhu wrote: But it seems that this company recently implemented anti-spoofing on emails and subsribers from that company are no longer able to receive any emails sent to the list by people from the same company. Here is the log message I got. (reason: 550 Error: Anti-spoofing - From header field in inbound eMail cannot be local domain) Is there a way to configure the list server so that this problem can be avoided? No idea. Why don't you ask the people who implemented the anti-spoofing technology on your mail servers? They would know what they did, and what methods might be able to be used as a legitimate work-around. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania. SAGE member since 1995. See http://www.sage.org/ for more info. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re(2): [Mailman-Users] Mailman on OS X Server Web interface links point to http, not https
At 2:00 AM -0400 2004-06-14, Robert Snyder wrote: In case anyone else running OS X Server 10.3 asks, the mailman executables, configure files, etc. are all found in /usr/share/mailman with the local configuration file at /usr/share/mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py I'll update the FAQ with this information. Thanks! -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania. SAGE member since 1995. See http://www.sage.org/ for more info. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] command line problems
hi, i think, i ask this some times ago, but the problem is the same. has anyone a idea, what can i do to work with the commandline scripte like list_lists from a php file. i know, the problem are the rights. i try to put the standard wwwrun user to the mailman group ... without luck :\ i hope, i find now here a better idea ... or at least a tip, where i can find some hinds ;) -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] mailman setup for vhosts
I have a website client that would like a push-only mailing list that his customers can subscribe to to receive announcements of special sales and new products, and trade show schedules. His website, however, is hosted on an ISP (running FreeBSD) who vhosts many different other sites. In the Features page, I don't really see any specific mention of whether mailman would handle a server with many different vhosted sites. Obviously one would like the clients to be able to subscribe and unsubscribe themselves via a web-interface, but how to provide a link to the client-side-admin page within the vhosted domain would be one question. Also I'm sure the ISP themselves would have questions regarding how this may affect their other vhosted sites. Can anyone provide me with some information and explanation of these issues? I'd be most grateful. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] how to avoid the anit-spoofing error
On 14 Jun 2004, at 08:15, Weijun Zhu wrote: Hello, I am running a list where a few subcribers are from a company. The list server is outside the company. Everything works great! But it seems that this company recently implemented anti-spoofing on emails and subsribers from that company are no longer able to receive any emails sent to the list by people from the same company. Here is the log message I got. (reason: 550 Error: Anti-spoofing - From header field in inbound eMail cannot be local domain) Is there a way to configure the list server so that this problem can be avoided? This doesn't sound like a very smart test but ... 1. setting the anonymous_list attribute on your list's General Options page may work but with has other consquences. 2. setting those troubled subscribers to be Digest members might also sidestep the problem, with fewer side effects for people not affected by this problem than the anonymous_list option. Thanks a lot! Weijun. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Subscribing Via Email
Hey All, I know this will sound like a stupid question. But what the heck is the address for a new user to subscribe to my list? I've read through the documentation and it says to use the -join or -subscribe variable. Neither of these work. My mailing list is [EMAIL PROTECTED] I tried mailing to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] and neither of these add me to the list. Is there someplace in the admin section where I need to change some settings, or what's the deal? Thanks so much. Vince --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.698 / Virus Database: 455 - Release Date: 6/2/2004 -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman setup for vhosts
On 14 Jun 2004, at 16:14, Scott R. Godin wrote: I have a website client that would like a push-only mailing list that his customers can subscribe to to receive announcements of special sales and new products, and trade show schedules. His website, however, is hosted on an ISP (running FreeBSD) who vhosts many different other sites. In the Features page, I don't really see any specific mention of whether mailman would handle a server with many different vhosted sites. Obviously one would like the clients to be able to subscribe and unsubscribe themselves via a web-interface, but how to provide a link to the client-side-admin page within the vhosted domain would be one question. Also I'm sure the ISP themselves would have questions regarding how this may affect their other vhosted sites. Can anyone provide me with some information and explanation of these issues? I'd be most grateful. This recent post discusses some relevant issues: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2004-June/037415.html In a private follow-up to that post I further discussed some of the issues: On 13 Jun 2004, at 13:07, Richard Barrett wrote: Eric On 13 Jun 2004, at 03:40, Eric Pretorious wrote: Hi, Richard! On Friday 11 June 2004 11:23 pm, you wrote: With unmodified, standard Mailman source code, there is a single namespace for list names shared by all virtual host supported by a given Mailman installation. Multiple installations on the same machine can be used to avoid the list naming restrictions this creates. Is this difficult to configure? Not done this myself but I would not expect the Mailman end of it to be much harder than a normal Mailman source install; you just have to do it more than once. Say you would normally have installed Mailman into a directory called /mailman/run and run the Mailman ./configure with --prefix=/mailman/run and then make. My approach would be to perform per-hostname installs into directories named after the hostname, called for example /mailman/run/domX.tld, running the Mailman ./configure with --prefix=/mailman/run/domX.tld before running make install for each hostname to be supported You probably also want to use the --with-mailhost and --with-urlhost ./configure option to get the appropriate DEFAULT_URL_HOST and DEFAULT-MAIL_HOST in each installation's Defaults.py although you could fix this after make'ing by assignment in mm_cfg.py In practice you will probably not have any add_virtualhost() calls in your mm_cfg.py except for the single DEFAULT_URL_HOST/DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST call as the use of real hosting removes the purpose of the normal Mailman virtual hosting setup. You are going to need separate Alias and ScriptAlias (and related) directives in each per-host VirtualHost container in your Apache httpd.conf, each of which refers to the matching host's Mailman installation directory. Behaviour when an HTTP client does not provide a Host: request header is going to be a little different if you use Apache named virtual hosts rather than numbered virtual hosts with distinct IP numbers. But practically all modern browsers supply the Host: header so I would not expect this to be a problem. Where thing may get more complicated is setting up your local MTA to support virtual hosts. For instance, aliases generated by the per-host copies of $per-host-prefix/bin/newlist will generate alias definitions that pipe to the correct per-host instance of the Mailman delivery agent script but getting your MTA to recognise the aliases belong to one host rather than another is not something I am familiar with. My impression is that doing this with Postfix or Exim (and possibly Qmail) is likely to be easier than with Sendmail; but I seem to have struggled for half a lifetime to understand Sendmail configuration, with little success, and am likely to die before that task is complete. Final thoughts: 1. each per-host installation has to have its own 'mailman' site list 2. moving lists between virtual hosts is a different ballgame and $prefix/bin/fix_url.py is no longer what you need to change a list's virtual host The modified version of Mailman, shipped by Cpanel as part of their commercial hosting product for ISPs, adopts a different, list-name-munging solution to the problem but Cpanel have not made the modified source code generally available in the public domain. Do you know where I could get it? I do not know much about Cpanel but messages asking for support from users have cropped up fairly frequently which is where the list-name-munging trick of Cpanel has come to notice. I would not go this route myself unless I was considering to run a hosting business as such but you could try starting your journey of discovery here http://www.cpanel.net/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ:
Re: [Mailman-Users] how to avoid the anit-spoofing error
At 7:56 AM -0700 2004-06-14, Mark Sapiro wrote: (reason: 550 Error: Anti-spoofing - From header field in inbound eMail cannot be local domain) [ ... deletia ... ] Have you tried setting USE_ENVELOPE_SENDER = No in mm_cfg.py? That's on the mailing list server side. If I understand correctly, the problem is that the mailing list server is sending out e-mail that claims to be from within the domain, which is being rejected by the mail server. This is a classic case of mis-configuration of the mail server, and is not a problem that is likely to be able to be resolved by the external mailing list server. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania. SAGE member since 1995. See http://www.sage.org/ for more info. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman setup for vhosts
At 11:14 AM -0400 2004-06-14, Scott R. Godin wrote: I have a website client that would like a push-only mailing list that his customers can subscribe to to receive announcements of special sales and new products, and trade show schedules. As far as this goes, it's simple enough to do. See http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq03.011.htp. His website, however, is hosted on an ISP (running FreeBSD) who vhosts many different other sites. This is not necessarily a problem. If the mailing list server is hosted elsewhere where they can have a private copy of Mailman hosted for them, or if this is hosted as a virtual machine account where they can have a private copy of Mailman hosted. In the Features page, I don't really see any specific mention of whether mailman would handle a server with many different vhosted sites. Obviously one would like the clients to be able to subscribe and unsubscribe themselves via a web-interface, but how to provide a link to the client-side-admin page within the vhosted domain would be one question. Mailman handles virtual domains just fine. The problem is that this is done via aliases, and each listname is available from each virtual domain. So, you can't have two separate lists with the same name under different domains. The folks at CPanel have come up with their own private patches to resolve this issue, but then you'd have to host the list with them, or run their software. However, before you decide to do this, consider that if you run their software or host the list at their site, you'll have to get all your Mailman support from CPanel and not here. See http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq06.011.htp. There are other patches to support virtual domains in a better/different fashion that I've seen posted to the list, but you'd have to see the archives. You should also search the SourceForge patches list for Mailman. I found an old patch at http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=943827group_id=103atid=300103 that was developed with Mailman 2.1.1-5.1/Debian stable, but I don't know how well they work, or how much work would be required to bring them forward to version 2.1.5. Also I'm sure the ISP themselves would have questions regarding how this may affect their other vhosted sites. Can anyone provide me with some information and explanation of these issues? I'd be most grateful. I think that searching the archives and SourceForge are likely to be your best bet. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania. SAGE member since 1995. See http://www.sage.org/ for more info. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman setup for vhosts
At 4:58 PM +0100 2004-06-14, Richard Barrett wrote: Can anyone provide me with some information and explanation of these issues? I'd be most grateful. This recent post discusses some relevant issues: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2004-June/037415.html Okay, I've tried to tie these two threads together with the FAQ entry at http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.047.htp. Please let me know if you think there need to be any changes made, or feel free to make them yourself. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania. SAGE member since 1995. See http://www.sage.org/ for more info. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Subscribing Via Email
At 10:59 AM -0500 2004-06-14, Vince Kronlein wrote: I know this will sound like a stupid question. But what the heck is the address for a new user to subscribe to my list? I've read through the documentation and it says to use the -join or -subscribe variable. According to the documentation at http://www.list.org/mailman-member/node10.html, that's correct. Neither of these work. My mailing list is [EMAIL PROTECTED] I tried mailing to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] and neither of these add me to the list. Is there someplace in the admin section where I need to change some settings, or what's the deal? Are you getting any error messages sent to the administrator? Do you require confirmation and/or approval for subscription requests? What's in the Mailman logs? What's in the logs of your mail server? Any one of these could point to a particular problem. You may also want to look at the Mailman FAQ entry for general trouble-shooting at http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq03.014.htp. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania. SAGE member since 1995. See http://www.sage.org/ for more info. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] how to avoid the anit-spoofing error
Brad Knowles wrote: At 7:56 AM -0700 2004-06-14, Mark Sapiro wrote: (reason: 550 Error: Anti-spoofing - From header field in inbound eMail cannot be local domain) [ ... deletia ... ] Have you tried setting USE_ENVELOPE_SENDER = No in mm_cfg.py? That's on the mailing list server side. If I understand correctly, the problem is that the mailing list server is sending out e-mail that claims to be from within the domain, which is being rejected by the mail server. I'm sure your understanding is correct. I read the original post a little too quickly. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Subscribing Via Email - Brilliant.
Is there a way to subscribe via email? And then to get to confirmation link and sent to a page of my choice? I am also wondering if anyone know where and if you can edit that confirmation link and other obscure text that you can't seem to access through the system. I am using DreamHost and it only has access to certain functions. Thank you VERY much for anyone who can help!!! Jonathan :) -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
RE: [Mailman-Users] mailman setup for vhosts
-Original Message- [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Knowles Sent: Monday, June 14, 2004 12:34 PM To: Scott R. Godin Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman setup for vhosts At 11:14 AM -0400 2004-06-14, Scott R. Godin wrote: I have a website client that would like a push-only mailing list that his customers can subscribe to to receive announcements of special sales and new products, and trade show schedules. As far as this goes, it's simple enough to do. See http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq03.011.htp. His website, however, is hosted on an ISP (running FreeBSD) who vhosts many different other sites. This is not necessarily a problem. If the mailing list server is hosted elsewhere where they can have a private copy of Mailman hosted for them, or if this is hosted as a virtual machine account where they can have a private copy of Mailman hosted. In the Features page, I don't really see any specific mention of whether mailman would handle a server with many different vhosted sites. Obviously one would like the clients to be able to subscribe and unsubscribe themselves via a web-interface, but how to provide a link to the client-side-admin page within the vhosted domain would be one question. Mailman handles virtual domains just fine. The problem is that this is done via aliases, and each listname is available from each virtual domain. So, you can't have two separate lists with the same name under different domains. The folks at CPanel have come up with their own private patches to resolve this issue, but then you'd have to host the list with them, or run their software. However, before you decide to do this, consider that if you run their software or host the list at their site, you'll have to get all your Mailman support from CPanel and not here. See http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq06.011.htp. There are other patches to support virtual domains in a better/different fashion that I've seen posted to the list, but you'd have to see the archives. You should also search the SourceForge patches list for Mailman. Ok, wading through this I possibly have some insight as we've been pounding on this solution in a Red Hat Linux environment for some time with success: http://forum.ev1servers.net/showthread.php?s=threadid=43004 We've managed to make an earlier version of Mailman that would do as this gent needs, but under Ensim Pro's chrooted environment with virtual sites. In this fashion we've managed to make separate and distinct copies of Mailman not only install but provide all the normal features for this revision. I'm using this now and it works without a hitch. I'd discussed any workarounds for a chrooted environment here about a year ago with limited success, but we finally got a solution! This solution is working under Ensim Pro with both RHEL and the Fedora cores. Upgrading Mailman to the latest version is the remaining challenge as it doesn't run as a cronjob as we've achieved in this solution. To get Mailmanctl to function properly, the only thoughts we've had are to possibly run multiple copies of Mailmanctl for each domain that would host lists, but we haven't tried that yet and are open to any suggestions or options we might have there. HTH as far as a possible baseline solution in Scott's case! David J. Duffner VP Operations NWC Corporation NWCWEB.com NWCWEB.com - Your Design Hosting Solution! Featuring Ensim Pro/Linux Servers, Hosted Accounts, Web Design and e-Commerce services NWC Corporation - Global e-Pay Solutions -- Message scanned by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This transmission intended for the specified destination and person. If this is not you, this e-mail must be deleted immediately. www.nwcweb.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Cookie problem with 2.1 / repeated subscription confirmation loop
thanks brad. embedding the port in the URL pattern fixed everything except for the /pipermail/ alias. it would seem that this alias does not respect the URL_PATTERN statement which contains the port #. Will adding a second URL_PATTERN statement fix it? Thanks. Jon. - Original Message - From: Brad Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2004 2:41 PM Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Cookie problem with 2.1 / repeated subscription confirmation loop At 2:30 PM -0400 2004-06-13, Jon Brendsel wrote: 3. If the user clicks on the link, they are taken to the usual expected webpage asking them to confirm their subscription info. If they choose subscribe, then they are taking to ANOTHER webpage asking them to enter their confirmation cookie. This should not be happening. But I dont see any errors in the Mailman logs. Has anyone seen this before? Is this a mailman issue? Or Apache? This sounds like the redirect problem. See http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.045.htp. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania. SAGE member since 1995. See http://www.sage.org/ for more info. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] subscribing subscribers to topics
At 10:41 AM -0700 2004-06-14, Christopher Adams wrote: That addtopics.py was a typo. The name of the file is addtopic.py, but when I run withlist, I get the error message that I quoted, that the addtopic module doesn't exist. Do I have to 'install' the module or something? I am a novice with Python, so am unfamiliar with modules, but I have been reading a bit. Any help is most appreciated. I don't see this module listed on the page at http://www.list.org/site.html, or in the Mailman FAQ entry at http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.009.htp. Looking at my own 2.1.4 installation, the only files I find anywhere on the system which include the string opic anywhere in the file name are in /usr/local/mailman, named: % find . -name \*opic\* -print ./Mailman/Gui/Topics.py ./Mailman/Gui/Topics.pyc ./Mailman/TopicMgr.py ./Mailman/TopicMgr.pyc I'm not sure that this module exists, or that it is used in this way. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania. SAGE member since 1995. See http://www.sage.org/ for more info. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman setup for vhosts
Brad Knowles wrote: At 4:58 PM +0100 2004-06-14, Richard Barrett wrote: Can anyone provide me with some information and explanation of these issues? I'd be most grateful. This recent post discusses some relevant issues: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2004-June/037415.html Okay, I've tried to tie these two threads together with the FAQ entry at http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.047.htp. Please let me know if you think there need to be any changes made, or feel free to make them yourself. It seems to me that this is an enormous amount of work to enable a mailing list for a single vhosted client (with only the possibility of the other vhosted clients using this solution for their websites). -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] subscribing subscribers to topics
I see what you are saying, but the instructions were to create a file called addtopic.py, include certain information in it, and then run it with the withlist command. While reading abou Python modules, it says that you can install them. I don't know much about Python and am just fishing for answers to my various questions. Brad Knowles wrote: At 10:41 AM -0700 2004-06-14, Christopher Adams wrote: That addtopics.py was a typo. The name of the file is addtopic.py, but when I run withlist, I get the error message that I quoted, that the addtopic module doesn't exist. Do I have to 'install' the module or something? I am a novice with Python, so am unfamiliar with modules, but I have been reading a bit. Any help is most appreciated. I don't see this module listed on the page at http://www.list.org/site.html, or in the Mailman FAQ entry at http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.009.htp. Looking at my own 2.1.4 installation, the only files I find anywhere on the system which include the string opic anywhere in the file name are in /usr/local/mailman, named: % find . -name \*opic\* -print ./Mailman/Gui/Topics.py ./Mailman/Gui/Topics.pyc ./Mailman/TopicMgr.py ./Mailman/TopicMgr.pyc I'm not sure that this module exists, or that it is used in this way. -- Christopher Adams Library Systems Analyst Oregon State Library 503-378-4243 258 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman setup for vhosts
At 1:03 PM -0400 2004-06-14, Scott R. Godin wrote: It seems to me that this is an enormous amount of work to enable a mailing list for a single vhosted client (with only the possibility of the other vhosted clients using this solution for their websites). If there's only one account on the system who is making use of Mailman, then there shouldn't be a problem. You could either install Mailman under the account of the of the single user (assuming the hosting provider allows this), or you can take the risk that the single system-wide installation will only be used by the one customer, and that no one else will try to use the same installation to host another list by the same name under a different domain. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania. SAGE member since 1995. See http://www.sage.org/ for more info. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] subscribing subscribers to topics
At 1:02 PM -0700 2004-06-14, Christopher Adams wrote: I see what you are saying, but the instructions were to create a file called addtopic.py, include certain information in it, and then run it with the withlist command. While reading abou Python modules, it says that you can install them. I don't know much about Python and am just fishing for answers to my various questions. Sorry, my mistake. I misunderstood the question being asked, and did not connect it with the messages previously sent by Jim Tittsler on this subject. Unfortunately, you're talking about issues with programming in Python, and I'm not a programmer, nor do I know anything about Python. I think you're going to have to work out these issues with Jim, or someone else on the list who has knowledge in these areas. If/when you can find a solution to this problem, perhaps you could send that information to Christopher Kolar ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), so that he could make suitable updates to documentation at http://staff.imsa.edu/~ckolar/mailman/mailman-administration-v2.html. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania. SAGE member since 1995. See http://www.sage.org/ for more info. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] how to avoid the anit-spoofing error
On 14 Jun 2004, at 17:19, Brad Knowles wrote: At 7:56 AM -0700 2004-06-14, Mark Sapiro wrote: (reason: 550 Error: Anti-spoofing - From header field in inbound eMail cannot be local domain) [ ... deletia ... ] Have you tried setting USE_ENVELOPE_SENDER = No in mm_cfg.py? That's on the mailing list server side. If I understand correctly, the problem is that the mailing list server is sending out e-mail that claims to be from within the domain, which is being rejected by the mail server. This is a classic case of mis-configuration of the mail server, and is not a problem that is likely to be able to be resolved by the external mailing list server. Note that the misconfigured server is the one issuing the 550 error. Your list server is working the way mailing lists are supposed to work. The email really IS from the person that it says its from. Ask the company to fix this. Otherwise their staff won't be able to get copies of their own (or each others) posts from most lists. Its easy to fix, if they have a decent mail server. Simply add a header (Eg X-company: yes, where company is the company name) to the outgoing mail server, and permit spoofing when that header is present. Look at my headers for an example. That's a fairly simple thing to do, and no spammer is going to go to the trouble of working out how to circumvent this in a hurry. If the trick catches on, then maybe they will. In that case, you need to do something more clever, like giving the header an MD5 hash of the sender address and the date and time that the mail was sent (extracted from a header, of course) and some secret password. Probably not worth trying to work that out at the moment, though. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] how to avoid the anit-spoofing error
At 10:28 PM +0100 2004-06-14, Ian A B Eiloart wrote: Note that the misconfigured server is the one issuing the 550 error. Your list server is working the way mailing lists are supposed to work. The email really IS from the person that it says its from. Ask the company to fix this. Otherwise their staff won't be able to get copies of their own (or each others) posts from most lists. Indeed. I suspect that the company may have implemented SPF (see http://bradknowles.typepad.com/). In this case, one easy solution would be for the company to designate the mailing list server as one of the systems that is officially allowed to generate e-mail that claims to be from the company. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania. SAGE member since 1995. See http://www.sage.org/ for more info. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] help with configuration
I have mailman 2.1.4 running on an exim4/Debian system. I am running the multiple configuration for exim4, and have been able to get some help from this list to do so. We have figured out some of the problems, but when I set-up the various macros/files the way suggested (which did get my mailman running and exim accepting and sending mail) I found that two things stopped working. The automatic recognition by exim4 of the newly created lists (without creating entries in /etc/aliases) and that the various list addresses placed in confirmation emails were formatted wrong. ( http://livingsky.net/cgi-bin/mailmanadmin/test3) This was in the email sent when I created a new test list, and all the addresses were in this shape. The addresses sent to new subscribers were fine. I could not find which file created these confirmation letters, and so, am asking for help on both these matters. -- Bob Lydiate [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please visit my site at http://www.livingsky.net - Feel free to donate translations God bless you Dios te le bendigo Nyasaye Ogwedhi Que Dieu vous benisses -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] help with configuration
It appears that emails sent hours ago are still not here and I tried pressing the emergency moderator feature where do I see the list to be moderated? http://highestwisdom.com/mailman/admindb/franz_bardon_highestwisdom.com They would probably be on the above page but none have ever been there. Regards Ron at Precisiontrader dot com - As you breathe in, imagine the increasing gratitude you feel, as prosperity expands in all areas of your life. ---Original Message--- From: Bob Date: 06/14/04 17:18:34 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Mailman-Users] help with configuration I have mailman 2.1.4 running on an exim4/Debian system. I am running the multiple configuration for exim4, and have been able to get some help from this list to do so. We have figured out some of the problems, but when I set-up the various macros/files the way suggested (which did get my mailman running and exim accepting and sending mail) I found that two things stopped working. The automatic recognition by exim4 of the newly created lists (without creating entries in /etc/aliases) and that the various list addresses placed in confirmation emails were formatted wrong. ( http://livingsky.net/cgi-bin/mailmanadmin/test3) This was in the email sent when I created a new test list, and all the addresses were in this shape. The addresses sent to new subscribers were fine. I could not find which file created these confirmation letters, and so, am asking for help on both these matters. -- Bob Lydiate [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please visit my site at http://www.livingsky.net - Feel free to donate translations God bless you Dios te le bendigo Nyasaye Ogwedhi Que Dieu vous benisses -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Moving mailman list
If this is in a FAQ somewhere that explains this please just point me to it. I have a mailman list that I want to move to a different ISP. To do a mass subscribe at the new list I can simply use a text list of addresses, but how do I extract that info out of the old mailman list as a text file? Thanks! Robin -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] how to avoid the anit-spoofing error
Thanks everyone for clarifying the problem. I will forward the suggestions that you guys give to the company. Brad Knowles wrote: At 10:28 PM +0100 2004-06-14, Ian A B Eiloart wrote: Note that the misconfigured server is the one issuing the 550 error. Your list server is working the way mailing lists are supposed to work. The email really IS from the person that it says its from. Ask the company to fix this. Otherwise their staff won't be able to get copies of their own (or each others) posts from most lists. Indeed. I suspect that the company may have implemented SPF (see http://bradknowles.typepad.com/). In this case, one easy solution would be for the company to designate the mailing list server as one of the systems that is officially allowed to generate e-mail that claims to be from the company. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] subscribing subscribers to topics
On Jun 15, 2004, at 02:41, Christopher Adams wrote: That addtopics.py was a typo. The name of the file is addtopic.py, but when I run withlist, I get the error message that I quoted, that the addtopic module doesn't exist. I typically keep the *.py files I use with withlist in either the top level Mailman directory (sometimes referred to as $prefix or /usr/local/mailman by default) or in its bin directory. If you put addtopic.py in either of those directories, it should be found whether you invoke withlist as 'bin/withlist' from the top level directory as I suggested, or as './withlist' as you tried. Do I have to 'install' the module or something? No. It just needs to be in one of the places Python searches for a module. (This search path can be seen by examining the value of Python's sys.path variable. You could stick a 'print sys.path' just before the try to see the directories that will be searched for your new module.) -- Jim Tittsler http://www.OnJapan.net/ GPG: 0x01159DB6 Python Starship http://Starship.Python.net/ Ringo MUG Tokyo http://www.ringo.net/rss.html -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] help with configuration
At 5:24 PM -0700 2004-06-14, Ron Jaenisch wrote: It appears that emails sent hours ago are still not here and I tried pressing the emergency moderator feature where do I see the list to be moderated? Have you seen the FAQ entry at http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq03.014.htp? If you go towards the bottom of the General Options page for the list, you should see the field described as Emergency moderation of all list traffic. You can also set the individual moderation flags for users by going to the Membership List sub-page of the Membership Management... section -- click on the box in the mod column. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania. SAGE member since 1995. See http://www.sage.org/ for more info. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Moving mailman list
At 5:29 PM -0700 2004-06-14, Robin Rowe wrote: If this is in a FAQ somewhere that explains this please just point me to it. The FAQ entry on this subject is at http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq03.004.htp. However, reading this entry, I see that it needs work. I have a mailman list that I want to move to a different ISP. To do a mass subscribe at the new list I can simply use a text list of addresses, but how do I extract that info out of the old mailman list as a text file? Two ways: 1. If you have access to the command line prompt on the server where the list is located, you can use the command list_members (see http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.009.htp). 2. Depending on the permissions set for the list, you can use the e-mail admin interface. The FAQ entry at http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq03.025.htp has useful information in this area. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania. SAGE member since 1995. See http://www.sage.org/ for more info. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Cookie problem with 2.1 / repeated subscription confirmation loop
On Jun 15, 2004, at 02:49, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: embedding the port in the URL pattern fixed everything except for the /pipermail/ alias. it would seem that this alias does not respect the URL_PATTERN statement which contains the port #. There is a PUBLIC_ARCHIVE_URL pattern that you should set in your mm_cfg.py. (Check the default value in Defaults.py.) -- Jim Tittsler http://www.OnJapan.net/ GPG: 0x01159DB6 Python Starship http://Starship.Python.net/ Ringo MUG Tokyo http://www.ringo.net/rss.html -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] help with configuration - resend
It seems that my topic and original request got accidently hijacked, so I am sending this again. I have mailman 2.1.4 running on an exim4/Debian system. I am running the multiple configuration for exim4, and have been able to get some help from this list to do so. We have figured out some of the problems, but when I set-up the various macros/files the way suggested (which did get my mailman running and exim accepting and sending mail) I found that two things stopped working. The automatic recognition by exim4 of the newly created lists (without creating entries in /etc/aliases) and that the various list addresses placed in confirmation emails were formatted wrong. ( http://livingsky.net/cgi-bin/mailmanadmin/test3) This was in the email sent when I created a new test list, and all the addresses were in this shape. The addresses sent to new subscribers were fine. I could not find which file created these confirmation letters, and so, am asking for help on both these matters. -- Bob Lydiate [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please visit my site at http://www.livingsky.net - Feel free to donate translations God bless you Dios te le bendigo Nyasaye Ogwedhi Que Dieu vous benisses -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman setup for vhosts
Brad Knowles wrote: At 1:03 PM -0400 2004-06-14, Scott R. Godin wrote: It seems to me that this is an enormous amount of work to enable a mailing list for a single vhosted client (with only the possibility of the other vhosted clients using this solution for their websites). If there's only one account on the system who is making use of Mailman, then there shouldn't be a problem. You could either install Mailman under the account of the of the single user (assuming the hosting provider allows this), or you can take the risk that the single system-wide installation will only be used by the one customer, and that no one else will try to use the same installation to host another list by the same name under a different domain. If I were to install this for the single-user, how would it handle the aliases file ? -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
