[Mailman-Users] Where to set href URL strings on admin form pages?

2004-07-14 Thread James Sinnamon
Dear List,

This snippet of html:

a  href=http://(hostname)/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/wcdb-discuss/general\
 strong[General Options]/strong/a

... is generated from https://(hostname)/mailman/admin/wcdb-discuss .

Would someone tell me where the ''http: part is set (doesn't appear to be
mm_cfg.py)?  I would like to be able change it to https:.

TIA,

James

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[Mailman-Users] Re: [Mailman-Developers] How to export memberlist to file

2004-07-14 Thread J C Lawrence
On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 17:24:11 +0200 
Nick vd Kloor @ FOR-Nation [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi all, not sure anymore if there is a function or parameter to get
 your whole memberlist in a textfile.  Does anyone know?

~/bin/list_members.

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[Mailman-Users] Variables in lists?

2004-07-14 Thread Jim Provost
Hi all,
I looked through the sites and the documentation and couldn't find anything 
on this, so I thought I'd ask you.  I was wondering if Mailman has support 
for variables in mass mails.

We're considering using Mailman to help send out messasges to applicants 
and students, but we would have to tailor the messages based on the faculty 
they've chosen, etc.

Thanks in advance!
Jim Provost
Admission Services
Queen's University
Kingston, Ontario, Canada
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[Mailman-Users] How to export memberlist to file

2004-07-14 Thread Nick vd Kloor @ FOR-Nation
Hi all,
 
 
not sure anymore if there is a function or parameter to get your whole
memberlist in a textfile.
Does anyone know?
 

Thanx in advance,
 
Nick
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Re: [Mailman-Users] How to export memberlist to file

2004-07-14 Thread Detlef Neubauer
Nick vd Kloor @ FOR-Nation [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 not sure anymore if there is a function or parameter to get your whole
 memberlist in a textfile.
 Does anyone know?

$ list_members -o out.file listname


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[Mailman-Users] Rejected RCPT - Sender Verfy Fail

2004-07-14 Thread lists
I am now receiving this error with any new list created - 
when an attempt to post or who or anything.  Does not 
happen with old lists.  Even tried copying one list to 
another - no difference.  See no answer in archives.  
Running v2.1.5 and was on 2.1.3.  Old lists created on 
that.
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[Mailman-Users] Changing List Name

2004-07-14 Thread lists
Since v2.1.5, the FAQ's are no longer correct in changing a list name.  The Realname 
cannot be changed - error occurs and tells you are not allowed to change ral name.  
Any idea how to do so now?

Cannot change/import setting through config_list either. Same error cannot change real 
name.




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RE: [Mailman-Users] Problem with JapaneseCodecs-1.4.10; unable to execute gcc: No suc h file or directory

2004-07-14 Thread Kraa de Simon
Jim,

Thanks.

I decided to delete the JACODECSPKG and KOCODECSPKG packages from the
PACKAGES in $prefix/misc/Makefile.
The line now looks like: PACKAGES= $(EMAILPKG)

And commented all import japanese and import korean* from the
$prefix/misc/paths* files.

Regards,

Simon.

-Original Message-
From: Jim Tittsler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: vrijdag 9 juli 2004 8:26
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Problem with JapaneseCodecs-1.4.10; unable to
execute gcc: No suc h file or directory


On Thu, Jul 08, 2004 at 08:39:34AM +0200, Kraa de Simon wrote:
 I don't have gcc installed (and I cannot install gcc on this system).
 
 Is there a way I can work around this problem?

configure's '--without-gcc' switch doesn't set the compiler for
the setup.py steps.  You could just change into the
JapaneseCodecs and KoreanCodecs directories and do
CC=cc python setup.py build
in each (or modify the Makefile).  Then when the install step
comes the binaries would have already been built.

 I don't think I need JapaneseCodecs-1.4.10 or KoreanCodecs-2.0.5...

You *might* be able to just remove them from the PACKAGES
definition in misc/Makefile to build without them, but I've not
tried.  (I don't think they are customizeable from configure's
--without-PACKAGE switch.)

Jim

P.S.  One other note... if you aren't using Gnu make, you may
need to modify messages/Makefile.  Some implementations of make
don't understand the substitution referenences for LANGDIRS,
POFILES, and MOFILES.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Changing List Name

2004-07-14 Thread Jeff Barger
On Jul 14, 2004, at 3:45 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Since v2.1.5, the FAQ's are no longer correct in changing a list name. 
 The Realname cannot be changed - error occurs and tells you are not 
allowed to change ral name.  Any idea how to do so now?

Cannot change/import setting through config_list either. Same error 
cannot change real name.
Use config_list to dump the list config, make a new list and then use 
config_list to import the old list settings and then move the users 
over.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Copy a mailing lkst

2004-07-14 Thread Jim Tittsler
On Mon, Jul 12, 2004 at 03:23:44PM -0600, Corky Seevinck wrote:
 After some pretty wild experimentation I managed to arrive at a list that is
 exactly the way I want it. Now I want to make more lists that act the same
 way. Is there an easy way to duplicate the options on a given list into a
 new list?

You might want to investigate the bin/config_list program.  It
can output (-o) the configuration of your perfect list in an
text format.  You can edit that slightly and use config_list
again, but with its -i switch to load the values into the new
list.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Where to set href URL strings on admin form pages?

2004-07-14 Thread Brad Knowles
At 10:29 PM +1000 2004-07-13, James Sinnamon wrote:
 Would someone tell me where the ''http: part is set (doesn't appear to be
 mm_cfg.py)?  I would like to be able change it to https:.
	See the FAQ.  Specifically, 
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.027.htp.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] How to export memberlist to file

2004-07-14 Thread Brad Knowles
At 5:24 PM +0200 2004-07-13, Nick vd Kloor @ FOR-Nation wrote:
 not sure anymore if there is a function or parameter to get your whole
 memberlist in a textfile.
 Does anyone know?
	See the FAQ.  Specifically, 
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.009.htp.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Variables in lists?

2004-07-14 Thread Brad Knowles
At 4:16 PM -0400 2004-07-13, Jim Provost wrote:
 I looked through the sites and the documentation and couldn't find
 anything on this, so I thought I'd ask you.  I was wondering if
 Mailman has support for variables in mass mails.
	Mailman has some pretty extensive list personalization features. 
Go to the FAQ Wizard and search for personalization.  Read all five 
entries that are returned.  The shortcut URL is 
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?query=personalizationquerytype=simplecasefold=yesreq=search.

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[Mailman-Users] Prevent archive?

2004-07-14 Thread Young, Darren
Is there any way to prevent list administrators from turning on
archives? I know I can set the default to off for new lists and go
through all the lists and turn them off, however all the list admin has
to do is go in the web page and flip the switch.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Prevent archive?

2004-07-14 Thread Jeff Barger
On Jul 14, 2004, at 12:02 PM, Young, Darren wrote:
Is there any way to prevent list administrators from turning on
archives? I know I can set the default to off for new lists and go
through all the lists and turn them off, however all the list admin has
to do is go in the web page and flip the switch.
One way would be to leave 'archive' out of the ADMIN_CATEGORIES config 
variable. It won't show up in the interface but you can still 
enable/disable it with config_list or with_list.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] defining topics

2004-07-14 Thread Christopher Adams
Thanks for your reply. According to what you are saying, if I have a 
topic called 'Licensing' and I define the topic with the regexp 
'Keywords:Licensing', I should be able to just include Licensing on the 
first line (or within the first 5 lines) of the message, and the Topic 
match should be met.

I tried this, but only subscribers who have not subscribed to topics 
receive the message, which is what should happens to them. However, 
subscribers to the Licensing topic do not receive it. What am I doing wrong?

Christopher Adams
Jim Tittsler wrote:
On Thu, Jul 08, 2004 at 10:10:24AM -0700, Christopher Adams wrote:
 

To post on a given topic, you need to make sure that the Keywords: or 
Subject: headers in a message match the regular expression for that topic.

It sounds like it is referring to the actual header portion of the 
message.There obviously isn't a Keywords: header in the actual header of 
the message. However, it goes on to say:
   

There *can* be a Keywords: header in the message headers.  This
occurs most commonly in messages gatewayed from news...
although I suppose you could have your Email client add one as
well.
 

By default, you can put a Keywords: section in the beginning of the 
body of your message, but this can be configured by your list 
admiinistrator.

I take that to mean that if  I define the topic with the Regular 
Expression Keywords: Licensing, that all I have to do to match the 
topic is to compose my message body like this:

Keywords: Licensing
blah blah blah.
   

The Keywords: or Subject: psuedo headers need to appear within
the first topics_bodylines_limit of a text/plain message (or
the text/plain part of a multipart/alternative message).  By
default, it just looks at the first 5 lines of the body (but it
can be changed to scan all or none of the message looking for
the psuedo headers). The regular expression search is done in a
case insensitive way.  When a match is detected, the message
gets an X-Topics: header showing the matching topic name.
The regular expression should not be trying to match the
Keywords: or Subject: field name... only the content of those
headers, or licensing in your example.
 

However, I don't receive the message. It is true that any address not 
subscribed to any topic will receive all messages, so the message is 
being delivered, just not to the address subscribed to the topic. I have 
tried defining the regular expression as just Licensing and composing 
my message with Licensing on the first line, but that doesn't work either.
   

If you are sending text/plain messages with the psuedo header
words starting in the first column, you might want to confirm
the value of the of topics_bodylines_limit for the list.  (Use
bin/withlist.)
 

As with other Mailman features, the documentation on this is pretty 
cryptic. A simple regular expression should not be hard to match. I just 
don't know what header labels to use when trying to match the topic in 
the body of the message. Using the Subject line works, but some of my 
lists mail to multiple topics and using the Subject field is not practical.
   

Subject:
Keywords:
 

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[Mailman-Users] Newbie probs v2.1.4 on Debian

2004-07-14 Thread John Fleming
First time here - go easy on me.  Mailman was working fine on Debian
unstable for a month or so since installation, and then I started seeing the
below errors when browsing any of the mailman web pages.  My lists
themselves are working - just not the webpages, and I therefore cannot reate
new lists, administer etc.  Can someone point me in the right direction to
troubleshoot etc?  Or is something broken in a lib file or something
upgraded in the Debian dist and I just have to wait until that is repaired?
Thanks - John

Bug in Mailman version 2.1.4

We're sorry, we hit a bug!
If you would like to help us identify the problem, please email a copy of
this page to the webmaster for this site with a description of what
happened. Thanks!

Traceback:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /var/lib/mailman/scripts/driver, line 68, in run_main
immediate=1)
  File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Logging/StampedLogger.py, line 52, in
__init__
Logger.__init__(self, category, nofail, immediate)
  File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Logging/Logger.py, line 49, in __init__
self.__get_f()
  File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Logging/Logger.py, line 67, in __get_f
1)
  File /usr/lib/python2.3/codecs.py, line 566, in open
file = __builtin__.open(filename, mode, buffering)
IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/var/lib/mailman/logs/error'








Python information:
Variable Value
sys.version 2.3.4 (#2, Jul 5 2004, 09:15:05) [GCC 3.3.4 (Debian 1:3.3.4-2)]
sys.executable /usr/bin/python
sys.prefix /usr
sys.exec_prefix /usr
sys.path /usr
sys.platform linux2







Environment variables:
Variable Value
SERVER_SOFTWARE  Apache/1.3.31 (Debian GNU/Linux) PHP/4.3.4 mod_ssl/2.8.18
OpenSSL/0.9.7d
SCRIPT_NAME  /cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo
SERVER_SIGNATURE  Apache/1.3.31 Server at www.wa9als.com Port 80
REQUEST_METHOD  GET
SERVER_PROTOCOL  HTTP/1.1
QUERY_STRING
HTTP_USER_AGENT  Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows 98; .NET CLR
1.0.3705)
HTTP_CONNECTION  Keep-Alive
SERVER_NAME  www.wa9als.com
REMOTE_ADDR  64.105.56.107
SERVER_PORT  80
SERVER_ADDR  64.105.56.109
DOCUMENT_ROOT  /home/wa9als/www
PYTHONPATH  /var/lib/mailman
SCRIPT_FILENAME  /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo
SERVER_ADMIN  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
HTTP_HOST  www.wa9als.com
REQUEST_URI  /cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo
HTTP_ACCEPT  image/gif, image/x-xbitmap, image/jpeg, image/pjpeg,
application/vnd.ms-excel, application/msword, application/vnd.ms-powerpoint,
application/x-shockwave-flash, */*
GATEWAY_INTERFACE  CGI/1.1
REMOTE_PORT  3160
HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE  en-us
HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING  gzip, deflate
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Re: [Mailman-Users] defining topics

2004-07-14 Thread Jeff Barger
On Jul 14, 2004, at 3:05 PM, Christopher Adams wrote:
Thanks for your reply. According to what you are saying, if I have a 
topic called 'Licensing' and I define the topic with the regexp 
'Keywords:Licensing', I should be able to just include Licensing on 
the first line (or within the first 5 lines) of the message, and the 
Topic match should be met.
I think that would need to be 'Keywords: Licensing' in the body using 
that regexp (and naturally you need to have body checking enabled).

You need to watch body-matching though. If the body content is base64'd 
I don't think it'll catch it. I use Subject matching on the lists I 
take care of that use Topics and generally that has worked out well.

-Jeff

I tried this, but only subscribers who have not subscribed to topics 
receive the message, which is what should happens to them. However, 
subscribers to the Licensing topic do not receive it. What am I doing 
wrong?

Christopher Adams
Jim Tittsler wrote:
On Thu, Jul 08, 2004 at 10:10:24AM -0700, Christopher Adams wrote:
To post on a given topic, you need to make sure that the Keywords: 
or Subject: headers in a message match the regular expression for 
that topic.

It sounds like it is referring to the actual header portion of the 
message.There obviously isn't a Keywords: header in the actual 
header of the message. However, it goes on to say:

There *can* be a Keywords: header in the message headers.  This
occurs most commonly in messages gatewayed from news...
although I suppose you could have your Email client add one as
well.

By default, you can put a Keywords: section in the beginning of the 
body of your message, but this can be configured by your list 
admiinistrator.

I take that to mean that if  I define the topic with the Regular 
Expression Keywords: Licensing, that all I have to do to match the 
topic is to compose my message body like this:

Keywords: Licensing
blah blah blah.
The Keywords: or Subject: psuedo headers need to appear within
the first topics_bodylines_limit of a text/plain message (or
the text/plain part of a multipart/alternative message).  By
default, it just looks at the first 5 lines of the body (but it
can be changed to scan all or none of the message looking for
the psuedo headers). The regular expression search is done in a
case insensitive way.  When a match is detected, the message
gets an X-Topics: header showing the matching topic name.
The regular expression should not be trying to match the
Keywords: or Subject: field name... only the content of those
headers, or licensing in your example.

However, I don't receive the message. It is true that any address 
not subscribed to any topic will receive all messages, so the 
message is being delivered, just not to the address subscribed to 
the topic. I have tried defining the regular expression as just 
Licensing and composing my message with Licensing on the first 
line, but that doesn't work either.

If you are sending text/plain messages with the psuedo header
words starting in the first column, you might want to confirm
the value of the of topics_bodylines_limit for the list.  (Use
bin/withlist.)

As with other Mailman features, the documentation on this is 
pretty cryptic. A simple regular expression should not be hard to 
match. I just don't know what header labels to use when trying to 
match the topic in the body of the message. Using the Subject line 
works, but some of my lists mail to multiple topics and using the 
Subject field is not practical.

Subject:
Keywords:
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Moderators Managing Subscriptions

2004-07-14 Thread Jeff Barger
On Jul 14, 2004, at 4:34 PM, Mike Cullum wrote:
Greetings,
We are just getting Mailman 2.1.5 up and running.  A number of the 
lists
that we are converting have individuals who manage the subscription 
lists.
I have seen in several places that moderators may, ... manage list
subscriptions and postings.  I have been successful in getting a 
moderator
account to deal with postings, but can't seem to get them to manage
subscriptions.  Do they have access to the Membership Management 
portion
of the administrative area?
I don't think so. AFAIK the moderators can only approve/deny sub/unsub 
attempts.

-Jeff
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Newbie probs v2.1.4 on Debian

2004-07-14 Thread Brad Knowles
At 2:24 PM -0500 2004-07-14, John Fleming wrote:
 IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/var/lib/mailman/logs/error'
	Looks to me like this is the problem.  Try creating this file, 
with the correct permissions and ownership.  You may need to restart 
mailman.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] defining topics

2004-07-14 Thread Jim Tittsler
On Wed, Jul 14, 2004 at 01:11:14PM -0700, Christopher Adams wrote:
 Thanks for your reply. I guess I am a bit confused. From the previous 
 message from Jim Tittsler, he says: The regular expression should not 
 be trying to match the
 Keywords: or Subject: field name... only the content of those headers, 
 or licensing in your example. To me, that meant that if I specifed 
 Keywords:Licensing as the regexp, I only had to include 'Licensing' to 
 match.

As I said, your regular expression should be licensing.  That
will be matched against the contents of the Subject: and
Keywords: headers, whether they are in the real message headers
or the first part of the message body.  You do not include the
'Subject:' or 'Keywords:' field names in the regular expression.

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[Mailman-Users] Migration

2004-07-14 Thread Brian York
I am doing a migration from PMDF listservs running on openVMS. We have four 
types of lists (open, open-moderated, closed, closed-moderated). I have 
several hundred lists to move from that to mailman. Any ideas on creating 
lists automatically and changing settings so they fit into one of the four 
types (I know the settings to use).

Could i put the config.pck file from a list that i have created with the 
settings that I want for a open list and paste it over the config.pck list 
after it has been created or is there a way to use some kind of templates 
with mailman.  

Need any ideas on speeding up the creation of the lists.

Thanks
Brian
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Newbie probs v2.1.4 on Debian

2004-07-14 Thread John Fleming
   IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory:
'/var/lib/mailman/logs/error'

Thanks Brad.  I just decided to try using apt-get remove mailman, and then
apt-get install mailman to do a reinstall, after being [fairly] reassured
that my config files would stay intact.  IT WORKED PERFECTLY!  I have no
idea how it got messed up, but it's all back now.  - John


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Migration

2004-07-14 Thread Mark Sapiro
Brian York wrote:

Could i put the config.pck file from a list that i have created with the 
settings that I want for a open list and paste it over the config.pck list 
after it has been created or is there a way to use some kind of templates 
with mailman.  


Use $prefix/mailman/bin/config_list to dump settings from each of the 4
list types and load them to the other lists.

  $prefix/mailman/bin/config_list -help

Also see the FAQ entries at
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.009.htp
and
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.038.htp

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