Re: [Mailman-Users] Mail not delivered to one of many lists

[Amardeo Sarma]

Once again regarding mail that is not delivered to a single list 
(shunted to ~/mailman/qfiles/shunt, Mailman 2.1.1), while all others 
continue to work: Perhaps the following info from logs/error are useful:

May 03 17:58:56 2005 (76344) Uncaught runner exception: Incorrect padding
May 03 17:58:56 2005 (76344) Traceback (most recent call last):
   File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 105, in _oneloop
 self._onefile(msg, msgdata)
   File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 155, in _onefile
 keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata)
   File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py", line 130, 
in _dispose
 more = self._dopipeline(mlist, msg, msgdata, pipeline)
   File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py", line 153, 
in _dopipeline
 sys.modules[modname].process(mlist, msg, msgdata)
   File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py", line 82, in 
process
 send_digests(mlist, mboxfp)
   File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py", line 123, in 
send_digests
 send_i18n_digests(mlist, mboxfp)
   File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py", line 303, in 
send_i18n_digests
 print >> plainmsg, msg.get_payload(decode=1)
   File "/usr/local/mailman/pythonlib/email/Message.py", line 189, in 
get_payload
 return Utils._bdecode(payload)
   File "/usr/local/mailman/pythonlib/email/Utils.py", line 75, in _bdecode
 value = base64.decodestring(s)
   File "/usr/local/lib/python2.2/base64.py", line 44, in decodestring
 return binascii.a2b_base64(s)
Error: Incorrect padding

May 03 17:58:56 2005 (76344) SHUNTING: 
1115143135.20801+9f18b7d05a7ab6c533bb9ac0c367f3bbdbbe2660

Any help would be sincerely appreciated.

Amardeo

Amardeo Sarma wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> there is a problem that never happened on our lists so far. Mails to a 
> particular list are not delivered and seem to be queued under:
> 
>   ~/mailman/qfiles/shunt
> 
> Just one list is affected, all others are not. I moved all files under 
> ~/mailman/qfiles/shunt to a temporary directory, but that did not help. 
> New test messages to the list again get stuck in that (same) directory. 
> Mails to other lists do not appear there.
> 
> I am running 2.1.1 using FreeBSD 4.7 with Mailman installed as a port, 
> and sendmail.
> 
> Is there a way to remove the block that apparently is blocking one of 
> many lists only?
> 
> Amardeo Sarma


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Announce only?

[Larry Stone]

On 5/3/05 10:06 AM, Staven Bruce at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Dale,
> 
> What I do for an announcment only list is to ensure the moderated bit is set
> for all list members, then I set Mailman to reject all e-mail from moderated
> users. I include a "rejected" message explaining that the list is for
> annoucements only and ask users to contact us another way. I then set
> Mailman to discard any and all mail from non-list members.
> 
> I do not know if Mailman can automatically except messages from a specific
> address, however I would not recommend doing that as the designated address
> or addresses could be "spoofed", allowing your list to be spammed. What I do
> is add a few manual steps to the posting process and have the administrator
> of each list turn off their moderated bit before sending an announcement to
> the list, then have them reset it after the message is sent.

See 
about how to use an "Approved" header to deal with this issue.

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[Mailman-Users] lost messages

[Tomasz Grobelny]

A few weeks ago I configured mailman to serve a small mailinglist. But a few 
days ago postfix configuration has changed so that all messages from mailman 
were rejected (554 relaying denied). This lasted for a few days before I 
fixed the configuration. Assuming that anyone posted to this mailinglist when 
postfix was broken:
1. will those messages be in www archive?
2. if not, are they written anywhere?
3. can they be resent to users?

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[Mailman-Users] non-member post slips through to list

[Michael Rasmussen]

This morning two non-member emails were delivered to a list.

The log message about the list says:

  May 03 04:03:01 2005 (13810) post to brewcrew from [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
size=3206, message-id=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, success

The vette log shows the system is still working - at least for other lists.

Worse yet the reply to goes to me and some users take that to mean I'm the 
spammer.

Anyone have an idea of how this could have happened?

the header from the email in question:

>From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Tue May  3 04:01:50 2005
Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
X-Original-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Received: from enema.egg.net (enema.egg.net [198.206.140.9])
by tire.patch.com (Postfix) with ESMTP
id 845213646B6; Tue,  3 May 2005 04:01:49 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from host171-147.pool8253.interbusiness.it
(host171-147.pool8253.interbusiness.it [82.53.147.171])
by enema.egg.net (Postfix) with SMTP id A5800BA7;
Tue,  3 May 2005 04:01:26 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from unknown (HELO speakeasy.net)
by speakeasy.net  with DES-IHE3-SHA encrypted SMTP
for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Tue, 03 May 2005 04:54:37 -0700
Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 15:57:37 +0400
From: "Angelica Rose" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Cc:
Subject: [Brewcrew] new, better then ever
X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4
Precedence: list
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Oregon Brew Crew Official Discussion List."
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
List-Id: "Oregon Brew Crew Official Discussion List." 
List-Unsubscribe: ,

List-Archive: 
List-Post: 
List-Help: 
List-Subscribe: ,

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Backup

[dave]

On Tue, 3 May 2005, Staven Bruce wrote:

> I know this topic pops up fairly regularly, however I was unable to find an
> answer to my specific question going through the archives and the FAQ's. I
> want to create a script that will output to a file a list of all subscribers
> e-mail addresses,  the list they subscribe to, and their associated
> password. However, the issues I have run into are as follows:
>
> -- The standard script that requires nmh at
>  uses
> the /var/lib/mailman directory which does not exist in my installation of
> Mailman 2.1.5 on Red Hat Enterprise 3.0.
>
> -- I can get list membership addresses using the
> /var/mailman/bin/list_members script, however I have to specifcy each list
> individually and I can not receive the password. In addition, I would have
> to change the script everytime a new list was created.
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions on scripting this functionality?

Seeing how you can get subscribers email from list_members and lists they're
subscribed to from list_lists, we'll leave this as nothing but a scripting
exercise.

Once that's done, you only need get the password for users which can be
gotten from running dumpdb again config.pck of each list and grep -w 
on the email address.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Backup

[John Dennis]

On Tue, 2005-05-03 at 11:02 -0700, Staven Bruce wrote:
> I know this topic pops up fairly regularly, however I was unable to find an
> answer to my specific question going through the archives and the FAQ's. I
> want to create a script that will output to a file a list of all subscribers
> e-mail addresses,  the list they subscribe to, and their associated
> password. However, the issues I have run into are as follows:
> 
> -- The standard script that requires nmh at
>  uses
> the /var/lib/mailman directory which does not exist in my installation of
> Mailman 2.1.5 on Red Hat Enterprise 3.0.

No big deal, just edit the script and change the directory.

> -- I can get list membership addresses using the
> /var/mailman/bin/list_members script, however I have to specifcy each list
> individually and I can not receive the password. In addition, I would have
> to change the script everytime a new list was created.
> 
> Does anyone have any suggestions on scripting this functionality?  

mm_bin=/usr/lib/mailman/bin
for list in `$mm_bin/list_lists -b`
do
   echo $list
   $mm_bin/list_members $list
done

You can always get fancier by using with_list which would give you more
control over what gets printed, but that requires some python coding
ability.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] User flagged as no-mail with "?" for reason

[David Gibbs]

John W. Baxter wrote:
>>Anyone know what could cause a user to be flagged as no-mail with a
>>reason code of "?"?
> The cause I'm familiar with is a list which passed through an upgrade from
> the days when the reason for no-mail wasn't recorded.

I saw that when I first upgraded to 2.1.5, but I've been on 2.1.5 for
many moons.

david

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[Mailman-Users] Backup

[Staven Bruce]

I know this topic pops up fairly regularly, however I was unable to find an
answer to my specific question going through the archives and the FAQ's. I
want to create a script that will output to a file a list of all subscribers
e-mail addresses,  the list they subscribe to, and their associated
password. However, the issues I have run into are as follows:

-- The standard script that requires nmh at
 uses
the /var/lib/mailman directory which does not exist in my installation of
Mailman 2.1.5 on Red Hat Enterprise 3.0.

-- I can get list membership addresses using the
/var/mailman/bin/list_members script, however I have to specifcy each list
individually and I can not receive the password. In addition, I would have
to change the script everytime a new list was created.

Does anyone have any suggestions on scripting this functionality?  
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[Mailman-Users] reason for "nomail": admin vs bounce

[IOhannes m zmoelnig]

hi.

some members of my lists keep bouncing and Mailman does not catch these 
bounces, so they are forwarded to me (the listadmin)
some of these members are just over-quota.

now i'd like to disable these bouncing adresses (which i can do by 
simple activating the "nomail" flag)


however, i would like the users to be informed that there subscription 
were set to nomail, like it seems to happen when the bounces are caught 
by Mailman: Mailman will attempt to deliver a "your subscription has 
been disabled" (or whatever) several times.

is there a way to manually set a member into "nomail=bybounce" mode and 
get Mailman to treat it as a normal (caught) bounce ??

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Re: [Mailman-Users] User flagged as no-mail with "?" for reason

[John W. Baxter]

On 5/3/2005 9:36, "David Gibbs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Anyone know what could cause a user to be flagged as no-mail with a
> reason code of "?"?

The cause I'm familiar with is a list which passed through an upgrade from
the days when the reason for no-mail wasn't recorded.

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[Mailman-Users] User flagged as no-mail with "?" for reason

[David Gibbs]

Folks:

Anyone know what could cause a user to be flagged as no-mail with a
reason code of "?"?

I can't find any indication that mail was bouncing, and I certainly
didn't set them no-mail myself.

This subscriber had been receiving mail fine up to a few days ago and
then it stopped ... they called me about it, and when I looked, they
were flagged no mail.

Any thoughts?

Thanks!

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Re: [Mailman-Users] message won't post/Posfix/Mailman issues

[Christopher Adams]

To all that have offered suggestions, thanks. However, I am still stuck. I have 
checked all Mailman 
logs, qfiles, restarted Mailman, still nothing is delivered.

In one experiment, I dumped all 40,000 subscribers and just subscribed myself 
and posted 
successfully. If a bad address or the number of subscribers was the culprit, 
wouldn't there be 
something logged in the Mailman logs? Has anyone a situation like this with a 
large list?



Dan Phillips wrote:

> 
> On May 2, 2005, at 1:30 PM, Christopher Adams wrote:
> 
>> This is a reocurring problem with one list that I host. It has  40,000 
>> subscribers and only one
>> subscribed address can post and I am an allowed non-subscriber who  
>> can post. When either the
>> subscriber or I post to the list, the message is not delivered, but  
>> the Postfix maillog shows this:
>>
>>
>> May  2 11:07:56 webhost postfix/local[13508]: 4ED8F4E538:  
>> to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, relay=local,
>> delay=0, status=sent ("|/lists/mail/
>> mailman post listname")
>>
>>
>> However, there is nothing in the Mailman/post log that shows that  it 
>> reached Mailman and obviously,
>> the message isn't posted. This may be a Postfix issue, but I am  
>> posting it to the Mailman list since
>> it appears that the message just isn't reaching Mailman.
>>
> 
> Anything at all in the Mailman vette or error logs? Look for it in / 
> qfiles/in. If it's there, then most likely at least one qrunner has  
> stopped. Have you tried /bin/mailmanctl start ?
> 
> Which version of Mailman? what OS?
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Help: Uncaught runner exception: Use of the Sendmail.py

[Rob Cartier]

I corrected the issue by switching back to SMTPDirect and that solved the
problem. What was changed that caused the sendmail shell to start failing



Rob Cartier wrote:

> I have just recently upgrade to verison 2.1.5 and noticed that I am 
> getting the following errors
> Apr 21 16:34:55 2005 (2487) SHUNTING: 
> 1114115693.3566439+b7b30585c2d6766e459089d6ba7e512f0b93d599
> Apr 22 21:04:23 2005 (2487) Uncaught runner exception: Use of the 
> Sendmail.py delivery module is highly discouraged
> Apr 22 21:04:23 2005 (2487) Traceback (most recent call last):
>  File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 111, in _oneloop
>self._onefile(msg, msgdata)
>  File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 167, in _onefile
>keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata)
>  File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Queue/OutgoingRunner.py", line 73, in 
> _dispose
>self._func(mlist, msg, msgdata)
>  File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/Sendmail.py", line 71, in process
>assert 0, 'Use of the Sendmail.py delivery module is highly 
> discouraged'
> AssertionError: Use of the Sendmail.py delivery module is highly 
> discouraged
>
>
>
> I need to run sendmail instead of smtp since my ISP provider requires 
> a login to
> connect to their smtp server.  Can anyone give me a clue what is going
> on here. It was working fine for over a year until the last upgrade :(
>
> Rob Cartier
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Announce only?

[Staven Bruce]

Dale,

What I do for an announcment only list is to ensure the moderated bit is set
for all list members, then I set Mailman to reject all e-mail from moderated
users. I include a "rejected" message explaining that the list is for
annoucements only and ask users to contact us another way. I then set
Mailman to discard any and all mail from non-list members. 

I do not know if Mailman can automatically except messages from a specific
address, however I would not recommend doing that as the designated address
or addresses could be "spoofed", allowing your list to be spammed. What I do
is add a few manual steps to the posting process and have the administrator
of each list turn off their moderated bit before sending an announcement to
the list, then have them reset it after the message is sent. 
  

-Original Message-
From: Dale Rose [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2005 6:09 PM
To: mailman-users@python.org
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Announce only?


Is it possible to make a mailman list announce only?

I've got the list reply-to address set to a specific, non-list address
but if the end user chooses to reply to all, the list address gets
included as well.  We try to keep all subscribers set to moderated,
but inevitably one or two will get through.

Can the list be set so that only messages from specified addresses get
posted, regardless of moderated status?

Many thanks,

Dale

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[Mailman-Users] Help: Uncaught runner exception: Use of the Sendmail.py

[Rob Cartier]

I have just recently upgrade to verison 2.1.5 and noticed that I am 
getting the following errors
Apr 21 16:34:55 2005 (2487) SHUNTING: 
1114115693.3566439+b7b30585c2d6766e459089d6ba7e512f0b93d599
Apr 22 21:04:23 2005 (2487) Uncaught runner exception: Use of the 
Sendmail.py delivery module is highly discouraged
Apr 22 21:04:23 2005 (2487) Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 111, in _oneloop
self._onefile(msg, msgdata)
  File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 167, in _onefile
keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata)
  File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Queue/OutgoingRunner.py", line 73, in _dispose
self._func(mlist, msg, msgdata)
  File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/Sendmail.py", line 71, in process
assert 0, 'Use of the Sendmail.py delivery module is highly discouraged'
AssertionError: Use of the Sendmail.py delivery module is highly discouraged



I need to run sendmail instead of smtp since my ISP provider requires a 
login to
connect to their smtp server.  Can anyone give me a clue what is going
on here. It was working fine for over a year until the last upgrade :(

Rob Cartier

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