[Mailman-Users] Where should the mailman router be placed in exim?
Hello, We currently have a mailman setup which is working perfectly... But I don't know if the mailman router is in the correct place within our exim configuration. I currently have the exim routers in the following order: mailman_router: dnslookup: system_aliases: userforward: localuser: Is this correct, or should mailman not be the first route for the mail? Thanks in advance, Richard. -- Richard Hobbs (Systems Administrator) Toshiba Research Europe Ltd. - Speech Technology Group Web: http://www.toshiba-europe.com/research/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: +44 1223 376964Mobile: +44 7811 803377 _ This e-mail has been scanned for viruses by MCI's Internet Managed Scanning Services - powered by MessageLabs. For further information visit http://www.mci.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Private archive file not found
I have the following problem with a new installation of mailman on CentOS Linux 4.1. I created my first list, and set the archives to be private. but when I try to access the archives, I get: Private archive file not found in the browser. moreover, in the mailman error log, I get the following: Jul 15 10:22:25 2005 (14959) Private archive file not found: /var/lib/mailman/archives/private/proba/ but it's all very strange, as the archives are actually there: $ ls -l /var/lib/mailman/archives/private/proba/ total 48 drwxrwsr-x 2 mailman mailman 4096 Jul 14 13:08 2005-July -rw-rw-r-- 1 mailman mailman 229 Jul 14 13:08 2005-July.txt -rw-rw-r-- 1 mailman mailman 232 Jul 15 03:27 2005-July.txt.gz drwxrws--- 2 mailman mailman 4096 Jul 14 13:08 database -rw-rw-r-- 1 rootmailman 1025 Jul 14 13:08 index.html -rw-rw 1 mailman mailman 845 Jul 14 13:08 pipermail.pck and also, if I set the archives to be public, they are accessible through the link to myserver.com/pipermail/... what could be the issue here? Akos -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Large Mailing list
Hello I am running mailman-2.1.5-10.on FC2 2.6.10-1.771 using an older PowerEdge 500Sc server. Specs: pIII 512mb ram. I have a few small list and one large one (approx 65,000 subscribers) This is an announce only list. It worked ok for the first week or so but now it seems like it is really hitting the performance of the machine. I have had to reboot several time to get my posts to work. My problem now is every time I try to login to this particular list through the admin pages it times out. I can access the smaller list with no problem. Mailman config: Apache - webserver Postfix - mta Thanks in advance -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Private archive file not found
On Fri, 2005-07-15 at 15:24 +0200, Ákos Maróy wrote: I have the following problem with a new installation of mailman on CentOS Linux 4.1. CentOS :-( I created my first list, and set the archives to be private. but when I try to access the archives, I get: Private archive file not found in the browser. moreover, in the mailman error log, I get the following: Jul 15 10:22:25 2005 (14959) Private archive file not found: /var/lib/mailman/archives/private/proba/ but it's all very strange, as the archives are actually there: $ ls -l /var/lib/mailman/archives/private/proba/ total 48 drwxrwsr-x 2 mailman mailman 4096 Jul 14 13:08 2005-July -rw-rw-r-- 1 mailman mailman 229 Jul 14 13:08 2005-July.txt -rw-rw-r-- 1 mailman mailman 232 Jul 15 03:27 2005-July.txt.gz drwxrws--- 2 mailman mailman 4096 Jul 14 13:08 database -rw-rw-r-- 1 rootmailman 1025 Jul 14 13:08 index.html -rw-rw 1 mailman mailman 845 Jul 14 13:08 pipermail.pck and also, if I set the archives to be public, they are accessible through the link to myserver.com/pipermail/... what could be the issue here? It might be an SELinux policy violation. Take a look in your /var/log/messages (or /var/log/audit/audit.log) file after you get the failure and see if there is avc message denying access (grep for avc:). I seem to recall a bug in an early version of selinux-policy-targeted related to private archives which was fixed a while ago by us. If you do see such a message the solution is to upgrade the selinux-policy-targeted rpm (or as a test you could put SELinux into permissive mode, but you really don't want to run an open server in permissive mode). -- John Dennis [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] How to hide/disable user options?
I am looking to make it so that subscribers can not change their settings, however I do still want them to be able to unsubscribe when they want. I found a similar question posed at the following link but I don't think there was an answer given. http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2004-April/035732.html Is this possible? Thanks, Mike -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] How to hide/disable user options?
At 12:29 PM -0400 2005-07-15, Mike Flaherty wrote: I am looking to make it so that subscribers can not change their settings, however I do still want them to be able to unsubscribe when they want. [ ... deletia ... ] Is this possible? So far as I know, you can't do anything like this without hacking the code. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 SAGE member since 1995. See http://www.sage.org/ for more info. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Editing rejection notice text when action to take for postings from non-members is 'Hold'.
Is it possible to send rejection notice text to non-members if action to take for postings from non-members is 'Hold'? I need to set this up because when non-member post is approved I want their email address to appear in the FROM field. Otherwise I have to forward emails on their belhaf and this is isn't as easy to manage, and sometimes it causes confusion. Mailman v2.1.5, MTA: Postfix v2.1.5, i686 GNU/Linux 2.4.18 Privacy options Sender filters Non-member filters --- List of non-member addresses whose postings should be automatically accepted blank --- List of non-member addresses whose postings will be immediately held for moderation. blank --- List of non-member addresses whose postings will be automatically rejected. blank --- List of non-member addresses whose postings will be automatically discarded. blank --- Action to take for postings from non-members for which no explicit action is defined. HOLD --- hould messages from non-members, which are automatically discarded, be forwarded to the list moderator? YES --- -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Custom aliases?
Does anyone know how to create these? I'd like to rename some of the standard ones and eliminate others. I don't think that editing aliases is the right way to go because genaliases will just wipe out my changes. Maybe that's the only way, though and I'll just have to redo stuff whenever I genaliases? Any ideas? Thanks! ~He who posts -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] extract emails from a list
Is it possible to get a list of all mailing lists with their respective members and dump this info in one text file? eg. list1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] list2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] etc. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] extract emails from a list
Hi James, This script should do the trick. It is what I use. #!/bin/bash # #-- list_inquiry.sh # Mailman_Dir=/usr/lib/mailman Script_Output=/tmp/list_inquiry.txt # # #-- Change directory to mailman bin directory cd /$Mailman_Dir/bin # # echo Subscribers of each list in company $Script_Output echo $Script_Output # #-- Get all list names and put into a for loop for mail_lists in `./list_lists -b` do echo $mail_lists: $Script_Output #-- Get list of members for each list ./list_members $mail_lists $Script_Output echo $Script_Output echo $Script_Output done # # #-- End of Script Trevor Cullingsworth James wrote: Is it possible to get a list of all mailing lists with their respective members and dump this info in one text file? eg. list1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] list2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] etc. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/trevor.cullingsworth%40pleasant.net Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Custom aliases?
At 2:17 PM -0400 2005-07-15, Poster wrote: Does anyone know how to create these? I'd like to rename some of the standard ones and eliminate others. They are there, and named the way they are, for a reason. If you do this, then you're unlikely to be able to get any help from anyone who is familiar with the standard Mailman stuff. You're painting yourself into a corner where you will have little or no support that you can call on when you have problems in the future. What are you really trying to accomplish? I don't think that editing aliases is the right way to go because genaliases will just wipe out my changes. Maybe that's the only way, though and I'll just have to redo stuff whenever I genaliases? Any ideas? If you're bound and determined to go about making changes of this nature, then you're talking about making source code modifications to programs like genaliases. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 SAGE member since 1995. See http://www.sage.org/ for more info. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Messages received at the server but do not send
Hello, Totally lost here - I'm sure this has to be a basic task for an experienced user. To show my lack of knowledge, I'm not sure how to check the qrunner (saw that option in another post), or any other process that should be running. Problem - Email sent to mailing lists sits in the /usr/local/mailman/qfiles/in directory. I am lost on how to further troubleshoot this issue. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Mailman is running on a FreeBSD server. Rick G -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Messages received at the server but do not send
At 12:17 PM -0800 2005-07-15, Rick Grams wrote: Problem - Email sent to mailing lists sits in the /usr/local/mailman/qfiles/in directory. I am lost on how to further troubleshoot this issue. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Go to the Mailman FAQ Wizard at http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py and search for troubleshooting. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 SAGE member since 1995. See http://www.sage.org/ for more info. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1.6 slowness...?
At 4:22 PM -0400 2005-07-15, Jeff Squyres wrote: However, once we upgraded to 2.1.6, performance on our smaller lists decreased dramatically during peak traffic times -- it can take 30-90 minutes before mailman hands off incoming list mail to sendmail. Weird. There is nothing in Mailman 2.1.6 that should cause it to be significantly slower. Does mailman somehow throttle/queue its output to the MTA? No. Are there any configuration parameters that I can tweak to change this behavior? With regards to Mailman itself, there are relatively few performance tweaks or changes that you can make. There are some tricks you can do to speed things up some, depending on what type of specific performance problems you're having. I'd encourage you to start by going to the Mailman FAQ Wizard at http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py and search for performance. It's quite a bummer, especially since 2.1.5 did not seem to exhibit this behavior. We see the parameter SMTP_MAX_RCPTS; it's listed in our Defaults.py with a default value of 500 (which seems to be fine). One of the things that will really slow down a mailing list is trying to hand off a large set of recipients to the MTA, especially if the MTA does extensive checking on each and every recipient address, and most especially if the MTA delivers each recipient in a synchronous mode -- as is typical for sendmail. One thing I would suggest is to make sure that you can enable list personalization and VERP, and then turn them on for your biggest lists -- this way the MTA can handle delivery to each recipient in parallel. This also helps in bounce message management, which is one of the biggest problems on large mailing lists. I'm thinking that this is not our problem (it was 500 in 2.1.5 as well) -- indeed, the problem seems to be the rate at which mailman gives mail to sendmail, not how many mails it gives in each MTA transaction. Hmm. That doesn't sound like a typical Mailman performance problem. Are your filesystems full? Most Unix OSes will optimize for speed, up until about 90% full. At that point, they start optimizing for space, and this is usually a pretty big performance hit. Also, do any of the directories have more than a few hundred files in them? Or have they ever had more than a few hundred files in them at any one time? One of the problems with standard Unix filesystems is that you have to do a linear search through all possible directory entries before you can create a new file, or before you can confirm that a given file doesn't exist. So, if a directory ever ballooned to thousands of files, even if it no longer has thousands of files in it now, it still takes a long time to do the linear search. The solution for this problem is to stop the affected systems, move aside the old directories, create new ones with all the same ownership and permissions, and then move any files that need to be preserved from the old directory to the new one. If you do a search of the Mailman FAQ Wizard and the archives of the mailman-users mailing list, you should find all these tips and more. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 SAGE member since 1995. See http://www.sage.org/ for more info. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1.6 slowness...?
In a flurry of recycled electrons, Brad Knowles wrote: At 4:22 PM -0400 2005-07-15, Jeff Squyres wrote: thinking that this is not our problem (it was 500 in 2.1.5 as well) -- indeed, the problem seems to be the rate at which mailman gives mail to sendmail, not how many mails it gives in each MTA transaction. Hmm. That doesn't sound like a typical Mailman performance problem. Are your filesystems full? Most Unix OSes will optimize for speed, up until about 90% full. At that point, they start optimizing for space, and this is usually a pretty big performance hit. Sendmail used to throttle itself based on load average of the host. With new mailman code, and possible newer python (was python replaced?), you could be hitting one of those thresholds. It was somewhere in the sendmail.cf file. z! -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1.6 slowness...?
At 2:55 PM -0700 2005-07-15, Carl Zwanzig wrote: Sendmail used to throttle itself based on load average of the host. With new mailman code, and possible newer python (was python replaced?), you could be hitting one of those thresholds. It was somewhere in the sendmail.cf file. Hmm. Actually, I think you may be on the right track, but not with regards to load average. The more recent versions of sendmail will also allow only so many simultaneous connections open, and that can also be a bottleneck. Proper tuning of SMTP_MAX_RCPTS is definitely something you want to look at -- too large can hurt you, as can too small. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 SAGE member since 1995. See http://www.sage.org/ for more info. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1.6 slowness...?
In a flurry of recycled electrons, Brad Knowles wrote: Hmm. Actually, I think you may be on the right track, but not with regards to load average. The more recent versions of sendmail will also allow only so many simultaneous connections open, and that can also be a bottleneck. Proper tuning of SMTP_MAX_RCPTS is definitely something you want to look at -- too large can hurt you, as can too small. I was definitly thinking of load averages, sendmail will reject connections if the LA is too high. Look at O QueueLA and O RefuseLA in the .cf and look for rejected connections messages in the log. Just for interest... http://dbaron.org/linux/sendmail-on-rheet z! who hasn't actually run sendmail for quite a while and may be spouting complete BS -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
