[Mailman-Users] Structure of Mailman archives
I've gone over the FAQ on moving archives. Since I don't have actual access to /archives on my system (shared hosting), I'm going to have to ask Support to do what's necessary. I can make sure everything is in mbox format. However, I have archives going back to 1996 from several different mailing list programs (listserv, majordomo, and mailman). Specifically, my question is: How is /archives/private/[list].mbox/[list].mbox actually structured? The FAQ makes it sound like it is one giant mbox file. Also, there are two [list].mbox in the path. The first is a subdirectory of /archives/private. The second is the actual mbox file. Are they both really the exact same name? I have new volume numbers for each year, and the archives are set to show all posts per month. Does /archives/private reflect that via subdirectories? For example, /archives/private/[list]/2005-October/[message_number].html would be the path for a current message. Is that how I should have the past posts uploaded? That is, /archives/private/[list]/year-month/[list].mbox where I've zipped the file so that the year-month is a subdirectory containing an mbox with the messages for that time period. Or should I give Support one big mbox with all the messages, the instructions on what to do from the FAQ, and assume Mailman will figure it out? Am I out of my mind thinking this can be done? I'll take a no comment as a yes :). I would really like to do this if it's possible. Thanks, Diana -- Diana Kirk WordStar Users Group Community: http://wordstar2.com/WordStar_Users Mailing Lists: http://wordstar2.com/mailman/listinfo Registered Linux User #327485 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] change the webserver name
Hi I need to change the webserver address as hostname is changed I looked the manual and tried with commands withlist and fix_url.py but somehow did not succeed with it. Just I need to change the hostname for web interface. Mailman itself is working well, just not usable with website. That means i can see http://newhostname.com/mailman/admin page but the lists are disappared from there. They where ok in http://oldhostname.com Sincerely -ReinL: -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Strange errors
Hello all, We are converting our lists from a different list server to mailman. I am running a Solaris 10 box, with mailman-2.1.6rc4 and sendmail version 8.13.3. Python version is 2.4.1. I run sendmail in the following ways: A normal sendmail daemon listening on port 25: /usr/lib/sendmail -bd -q15m A persistent queue runner: /usr/lib/sendmail -qp1m -OPidFile=/var/run/sendmail-qrun.pid A sendmail with submit.cf config: /usr/lib/sendmail -Ac -q5m A sendmail for smtp-auth listening on port 587: /usr/lib/sendmail -bd -C/etc/mail/sendmail-auth.cf -q15m Anyway, the problem we are having is this: After running for several days with no errors, we suddenly start seeing this error: Mail Delivery Subsystem [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/17/2005 9:18:52 AM The original message was received at Mon, 17 Oct 2005 09:18:21 -0500 (CDT) from .xxx.xxx.xxx [131.156.xxx.xxx] - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors - |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post testlist (reason: 1) (expanded from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) - Transcript of session follows - Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/local/mailman/scripts/post, line 35, in ? from Mailman.Queue.sbcache import get_switchboard File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/sbcache.py, line 19, in ? from Mailman.Queue.Switchboard import Switchboard File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Switchboard.py, line 47, in ? from Mailman.Logging.Syslog import syslog File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Logging/Syslog.py, line 22, in ? from Mailman.Logging.StampedLogger import StampedLogger File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Logging/StampedLogger.py, line 20, in ? from Mailman.Logging.Logger import Logger File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Logging/Logger.py, line 25, in ? from Mailman.Logging.Utils import _logexc File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Logging/Utils.py, line 18, in ? import traceback ImportError: No module named traceback 554 5.3.0 unknown mailer error 1 Has anyone seen this? Should I file a bug on this or send it along to the developers list? Restarting sendmail seems to get rid of the problem for a day or two. All sendmail configs have the mailman alias file included and we run newaliases to update it on every new list creation. -- Dan Szkola -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Migrating Lists to a new server
Can someone point me to some documentation for migrating mailman lists and archives to a new server? Thanks. Dennis Putnam Sr. IT Systems Administrator AIM Systems, Inc. 11675 Rainwater Dr., Suite 200 Alpharetta, GA 30004 Phone: 678-240-4112 Main Phone: 678-297-0700 FAX: 678-297-2666 or 770-576-1000 The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments is strictly confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, dissemination, distribution, or duplication of any part of this e-mail or any attachment is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender by return e-mail and delete all copies, including the attachments. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Migrating Lists to a new server
In a flurry of recycled electrons, Dennis Putnam wrote: Can someone point me to some documentation for migrating mailman lists and archives to a new server? Thanks. Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py While the search engine appears to be out of service, the index isn't. Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Start with http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq03.004.htp z! -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Structure of Mailman archives
Diana Kirk schrieb: Specifically, my question is: How is /archives/private/[list].mbox/[list].mbox actually structured? The FAQ makes it sound like it is one giant mbox file. Yes. Also, there are two [list].mbox in the path. The first is a subdirectory of /archives/private. The second is the actual mbox file. Are they both really the exact same name? Yes. -thh -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Structure of Mailman archives
Diana Kirk wrote: I've gone over the FAQ on moving archives. Since I don't have actual access to /archives on my system (shared hosting), I'm going to have to ask Support to do what's necessary. I can make sure everything is in mbox format. However, I have archives going back to 1996 from several different mailing list programs (listserv, majordomo, and mailman). Specifically, my question is: How is /archives/private/[list].mbox/[list].mbox actually structured? The FAQ makes it sound like it is one giant mbox file. Answered in another reply, but Yes. Also, there are two [list].mbox in the path. The first is a subdirectory of /archives/private. The second is the actual mbox file. Are they both really the exact same name? Also answered, Yes. I have new volume numbers for each year, and the archives are set to show all posts per month. Does /archives/private reflect that via subdirectories? For example, /archives/private/[list]/2005-October/[message_number].html would be the path for a current message. Is that how I should have the past posts uploaded? That is, /archives/private/[list]/year-month/[list].mbox where I've zipped the file so that the year-month is a subdirectory containing an mbox with the messages for that time period. This is how the archives are structured, but all this structure is in addition to the cumulative mailbox file /archives/private/[list].mbox/[list].mbox. All you need to (re)build an entire Pipermail arvhive is the one cumulative mbox file. Or should I give Support one big mbox with all the messages, the instructions on what to do from the FAQ, and assume Mailman will figure it out? If you're trying to create one huge archive containing all the various listserv, majordomo and mailman archives, the thing to do is to make the one huge cumulative mbox file. As long as this has proper ^From lines with good dates and good Date: headers, bin/arch --wipe will build the Pipermail archive structure from it. The archives will also be thereaded according to Message-Id:, In-Reply-To: and References: headers in the mbox file. Am I out of my mind thinking this can be done? I'll take a no comment as a yes :). I would really like to do this if it's possible. The only problem is insuring the integrity of the mbox file. There is a bin/cleanarch script that attempts to insure that messages in the mbox file do not themselves contain ^From lines. This is not perfect, but it can help. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] change the webserver name
Rein Laaneser wrote: I need to change the webserver address as hostname is changed I looked the manual and tried with commands withlist and fix_url.py but somehow did not succeed with it. Just I need to change the hostname for web interface. Mailman itself is working well, just not usable with website. That means i can see http://newhostname.com/mailman/admin page but the lists are disappared from there. They where ok in http://oldhostname.com Withlist and fix_url are the tools, but you also need to make mm_cfg.py changes. See http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.029.htp -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Strange errors
Dan Szkola wrote: I am running a Solaris 10 box, with mailman-2.1.6rc4 and sendmail version 8.13.3. Python version is 2.4.1. I run sendmail in the following ways: A normal sendmail daemon listening on port 25: /usr/lib/sendmail -bd -q15m A persistent queue runner: /usr/lib/sendmail -qp1m -OPidFile=/var/run/sendmail-qrun.pid A sendmail with submit.cf config: /usr/lib/sendmail -Ac -q5m A sendmail for smtp-auth listening on port 587: /usr/lib/sendmail -bd -C/etc/mail/sendmail-auth.cf -q15m Anyway, the problem we are having is this: After running for several days with no errors, we suddenly start seeing this error: Mail Delivery Subsystem [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/17/2005 9:18:52 AM The original message was received at Mon, 17 Oct 2005 09:18:21 -0500 (CDT) from .xxx.xxx.xxx [131.156.xxx.xxx] - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors - |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post testlist (reason: 1) (expanded from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) - Transcript of session follows - Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/local/mailman/scripts/post, line 35, in ? from Mailman.Queue.sbcache import get_switchboard File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/sbcache.py, line 19, in ? from Mailman.Queue.Switchboard import Switchboard File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Switchboard.py, line 47, in ? from Mailman.Logging.Syslog import syslog File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Logging/Syslog.py, line 22, in ? from Mailman.Logging.StampedLogger import StampedLogger File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Logging/StampedLogger.py, line 20, in ? from Mailman.Logging.Logger import Logger File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Logging/Logger.py, line 25, in ? from Mailman.Logging.Utils import _logexc File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Logging/Utils.py, line 18, in ? import traceback ImportError: No module named traceback 554 5.3.0 unknown mailer error 1 Has anyone seen this? Should I file a bug on this or send it along to the developers list? Restarting sendmail seems to get rid of the problem for a day or two. All sendmail configs have the mailman alias file included and we run newaliases to update it on every new list creation. This is curious indeed for at least two reasons. It is not a sendmail alias problem, nor does it seem on the face to be a sendmail problem at all. The post is received by sendmail and piped to the wrapper with the appropriate arguments. The wrapper invokes the post script as it should. The post script then does some imports one of which is from Mailman.Queue.sbcache import get_switchboard sbcache does from Mailman.Queue.Switchboard import Switchboard and so on until Mailman.Logging.Utils does import traceback which results in ImportError: No module named traceback Now this is really strange because traceback is a Python library module and this chain of imports leading to 'import traceback' occurs with every post, so why does it fail now and why does restarting sendmail fix it? What happens if you restart Mailman (bin/mailmanctl restart) without restarting sendmail? Does that fix it? Or do all the qrunners die with the same ImportError? I have no reason other than superstition for the following suggestion, but try SMTP_MAX_SESSIONS_PER_CONNECTION = 1 in mm_cfg.py and see if that helps. This will cause Mailman to close the SMTP connection to sendmail after each transaction. This might avoid the problem, but since I have no idea what the problem is, I have no idea if this will help. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Munged addresses
I have a list running on our server that when you ask for the entire list the firse 25 or so listed are munged. Here's an example [EMAIL PROTECTED] anl You can see that there is an actual email address in there, which when searched on returns a valid address. I would like to get rid of these munged addresses, but when I check the box to unsubscribe them, I get a message back that says the subscriber is not listed. Some are much longer, some ae shorter. Any way I can get rid of these things? -- Bob Morse Morse Media http://www.morsemedia.net 707-444-9566 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Structure of Mailman archives
Thanks for the replies. I really appreciate them all. On Monday 17 October 2005 06:46 pm, Mark Sapiro wrote: The only problem is insuring the integrity of the mbox file. There is a bin/cleanarch script that attempts to insure that messages in the mbox file do not themselves contain ^From lines. This is not perfect, but it can help. My problem is that I will have to actually go through and check quite a bit of this no matter how I go about it. At least now I know what Mailman will look for in order to build the archives. So I can check for those things as I assemble and clean the mbox up. My other alternative was to create a special web site and upload all the digests. However, it wouldn't be nearly as pretty when the dust settled, while being as much or possibly more work to do. I'm not keen on the fact that the Mailman archives don't have some sort of search mechanism included, but I saw the suggestion in another post or possibly in the FAQ about getting Google to do it. That just might work. Thanks again for your help, Diana -- Registered Linux User #327485 WordStar Users Group Community: http://wordstar2.com/WordStar_Users WordStar Linux: http://wordstar2.com Mailing Lists: http://wordstar2.com/mailman/listinfo -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
